So now we know what Sarah ACTUALLY said...

[Jake.]

Did Paul overreact?

[Wizard.]

YES! And Brandi sh*t-stirred, Sarah was in no way malicious and Brandi used that so Paul would target Sarah.

[Jase.]

YES! And Brandi sh*t-stirred, Sarah was in no way malicious and Brandi used that so Paul would target Sarah.

:clap1:

[LukeB]

It was so OTT, Paul never let Sarah speak he just assumed things and got aggressive.

[LukeB]

Paul should have spoken to Sarah and listen to what actually happened!

[Brother Leon]

He didn't overreact, because he was fed fake news. He was entitled to react that way IF what those girls Told him had been true.

[Littlegreen]

He did overreact, but I do think other people are purposely trying to segregate Sarah now.

[Kazanne]

It was so OTT, Paul never let Sarah speak he just assumed things and got aggressive.

This ^ Danan is a douche

[Shaun]

He didn't overreact, because he was fed fake news. He was entitled to react that way IF what those girls Told him had been true.

No he's totally justified running into the garden screaming at her

jfc you people...

[Jake.]

He didn't overreact, because he was fed fake news. He was entitled to react that way IF what those girls Told him had been true.

So he did overreact then?

[Lostie!]

He didn't overreact, because he was fed fake news. He was entitled to react that way IF what those girls Told him had been true.

He instantly flew into a rage without even attempting to clarify what was said first. Of course he overreacted.

[LukeB]

Aggression is OTT

he handled it badly!

[smudgie]

He confirmed my initial thoughts that once a twunt always a twunt.

[Otaka]

Brandi knew what she was doing. What a horrible bunch of people

[Withano]

He literally didnt ask for any clarification off anybody, he was so ready to scream at Sarah.. he always just seems to be ready to scream at her. He is completely vile.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Bear in mind that earlier this series Sarah also called him a psycho and mocked his battle with drink etc. His struggles are all still obviously very much ongoing and he is trying really hard to avoid drink in there which is making him hyper sensitive to anything about it. Give the guy a break

Sarah is also obviously very sensitive to it by her breakdown over people calling her fragile so that's why Paul saw it as doubly offensive

[In the Drunk Tank]

Also I'm pretty sure they cut out a big segment from when Brandi first said 'Sarah said you took a pill' to when he stormed into the garden

[Weyr]

The series is struggling to get viewers....I wonder why! What a bunch of tosses, the sooner its cancelled, the better!

[BBUK-Fan]

Bear in mind that earlier this series Sarah also called him a psycho and mocked his battle with drink etc. His struggles are all still obviously very much ongoing and he is trying really hard to avoid drink in there which is making him hyper sensitive to anything about it. Give the guy a break

Sarah is also obviously very sensitive to it by her breakdown over people calling her fragile so that's why Paul saw it as doubly offensive

Sarah should know what it's like to battle alcoholism and she just treated Paul like **** when he is going through a similar situation. ****ing bitch

[mizzy25]

He should have asked Sarah what she had actually said, not just screamed at her. Good on him for apologizing though. WTF is Gemmas problem with Sarah?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

He should have asked Sarah what she had actually said, not just screamed at her. Good on him for apologizing though. WTF is Gemmas problem with Sarah?

He has a temper. I'm the same. :laugh:

[Vicky.]

Bear in mind that earlier this series Sarah also called him a psycho and mocked his battle with drink etc. His struggles are all still obviously very much ongoing and he is trying really hard to avoid drink in there which is making him hyper sensitive to anything about it. Give the guy a break

Sarah is also obviously very sensitive to it by her breakdown over people calling her fragile so that's why Paul saw it as doubly offensive

Also I'm pretty sure they cut out a big segment from when Brandi first said 'Sarah said you took a pill' to when he stormed into the garden

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I also feel we are missing a LOT of whats actually going on. I seriously doubt that it was just the one pill comment then the rage.

[letmein]

He did overreact, but I do think other people are purposely trying to segregate Sarah now.

Maybe if she wasn't such a moaner and a crybaby, demanding everyone play nursemaid to her and think she's the greatest thing in there they would take to her more. She brings everyone down.

[odd sock]

I have gone right off Sarah but Paul totally went over the top, nasty man.

[Lostie!]

Brandi knew what she was doing. What a horrible bunch of people

My mind automatically read this in Kim Woodburn's voice :love:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I have gone right off Sarah but Paul totally went over the top, nasty man.

At least he apologised. None of the others do when they kick off.

[Lostie!]

At least he apologised. None of the others do when they kick off.

Scared of alienating the viewers. He can shove it tbqh

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Scared of alienating the viewers. He can shove it tbqh

I don't think so.

[Rustic bauble]

Sarah should know what it's like to battle alcoholism and she just treated Paul like **** when he is going through a similar situation. ****ing bitch


Paul targeted Sarah in the shredding task..he was very vocal and forceful despite knowing her vulnerability. It was that whole scenario that started the feud..Sarah had no problem with him until that point...he never showed her any empathy so why now should she.

[Rustic bauble]

Scared of alienating the viewers. He can shove it tbqh


Exactly...he knew how it would look. I strongly believe BB told him to apologise because he changed his tune very quickly in the DR. It was obviously cut in what was probably a longer discussion whilst he cooled down.
Paul is a classic back peddler when he realises how he will be conceived...hence all his fake apologies.

[Tozzie]

he didn't even wait to find out exactly what had been said, he just heard the word 'meds' and flipped out on Sarah, nasty prick he is

[Tozzie]

Scared of alienating the viewers. He can shove it tbqh

I thought exactly the same. He realised afterwards how it would have looked to the viewers, hopefully the viewers won't fall for his fake apology

[Tozzie]

Maybe if she wasn't such a moaner and a crybaby, demanding everyone play nursemaid to her and think she's the greatest thing in there they would take to her more. She brings everyone down.

I think I'd be a ruddy crybaby if I had that lot to contend with, they are all ganging up on her, she only has an ally in Chad, sort of

[Tozzie]

Paul should have spoken to Sarah and listen to what actually happened!

Yes he should, he just flew off the handle without even hearing how the conversation came about.

[Vicky.]

Scared of alienating the viewers. He can shove it tbqh

I really don't think its this...else he would be 'behaving himself' more than he is in the first place if he was thinking about how hes coming across. I think BB told him to apologize...maybe during a warning. The DR chat was cut to ribbons.

[Garfie]

I think he was overly aggressive in his reaction and it wasn't pleasant, but I can understand why he reacted as he did. In the conversation where Sarah mentioned his 'meds' she was definitely gossiping and implying more than she said, and that it what the other housemates picked up on. Why did she choose the word 'meds' when it was actually a headache tablet? She chose that word for a reason.

In my opinion Sarah is bringing a lot of negativity on herself, hence the 8 nominations, and the reasons given for them.

[Tinsel Toes]

At least he apologised. None of the others do when they kick off.

Yeah he does a lot of apologising - thinking its ok to fly at others and a quick apology will suffice is really not on.

[Parmy]

May as well have made the poll a are you a paul or sarah fan choice.

[johne]

I think he was overly aggressive in his reaction and it wasn't pleasant, but I can understand why he reacted as he did. In the conversation where Sarah mentioned his 'meds' she was definitely gossiping and implying more than she said, and that it what the other housemates picked up on. Why did she choose the word 'meds' when it was actually a headache tablet? She chose that word for a reason.

In my opinion Sarah is bringing a lot of negativity on herself, hence the 8 nominations, and the reasons given for them.

I remember seeing Paul acting intoxicated/drugged and having to be helped to bed a few nights back. I assumed he was pissed, not realising then he's on the wagon. There was a general conversation about this in the living room, and Sarah said something like she knew he wasn't drunk and thought he must have taken a med. In case you don't understand this word, a "med" it is something prescribed by a doctor to treat a condition. Sarahs choice of this word demonstrates she was not trying to imply Paul is a druggie. It was s**t stirrer Brandi who changed the word from med to pill.

[chuff me dizzy]

She said a lot more than Brandi told Paul, she also said he was staggering about ,Good job I had saved all the episodes and could look back on them ,as he DIDNT stagger all about

[chuff me dizzy]

May as well have made the poll a are you a paul or sarah fan choice.

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[ClaireS92]

Jemma and him have been targetting Sarah for about a week now.I voted over reaction but I think it could have been more than that given they've been targetting her for a week,same old tactics used so often in BB,gang up together,spread lies about those you see as your biggest competition / most chance of winning instead of you which they see because Sarah has such a big fan base of coarse then make sure not to vote for other membes of the gang. So as they ve been plotting against her for most of this series so far I think Paul may have known or suspected she didn t say that but still used it to have a go at her to try and spread lies about her of coarse so some of the public at home may not vote for her .

[chuff me dizzy]

Jemma and him have been targetting Sarah for about a week now.I voted over reaction but I think it could have been more than that given they've been targetting her for a week,same old tactics used so often in BB,gang up together,spread lies about those you see as your biggest competition / most chance of winning instead of you which they see because Sarah has such a big fan base of coarse then make sure not to vote for other membes of the gang. So as they ve been plotting against her for most of this series so far I think Paul may have known or suspected she didn t say that but still used it to have a go at her to try and spread lies about her of coarse so some of the public at home may not vote for her .

You opinion doesn't take into account all the others who nominated her for near enough the same reason

[ClaireS92]

YES! And Brandi sh*t-stirred, Sarah was in no way malicious and Brandi used that so Paul would target Sarah.

No doubt about it Paul and Jemma are in a gang,problem is that gang only has two members really at present but has managed to con the rest of the house to vote the way they want. No doubt Paul and Jemma are using the so often repeated dirty tricks of cowardly bullies in the house,and yes I did use the word bullying ,because it is bullying regardless of if some fo you who support scum choose to argue it isn't to try & get your scum off the hook .

Jemma & Paul have been definitely doing the usual,gang up together , spread lies about your biggest competition / who has best chance of winning instead of you, and don't vote for each other .

AND TRISHA AND BRANDI WHO ARE NOT MEMBERS OF PAUL AND JEMMA S DUO ARE STILL USING IT TO TARGET SOMEONE WITH A LARGE FAN BASE IE SARAH WHO THEY SEE AS THEIR MAIN COMPETITION TO WINNING CBB . SO to sum up Paul & Jemma ganging up , same old dirty tricks used so often before on BB and whist Brandi & Trisha aren t in their gang they are still using what paul & Jemma do to target her too because they see her as their biggest opponent obstacle to winning the show because of her large an base .

[y.winter]

Brandi completely took it out of context and he didn't even look for explanation - he instantly saw red.

[ClaireS92]

You opinion doesn't take into account all the others who nominated her for near enough the same reason

Because they have either conned others vote for her or MORE LIKELY most of them like most people ARE SHEEP and go along with what the current trend tends to be and don't like to get involved or go against what appears to be the current trend

,MST have voted for Sarah because of that . Like it or lump it , most people act like sheep and go along with what appears to be the current trend with anything for a quiet life

, but don t forget also that some of the others who voted for her may also be corrupt too because they also see Sarah as their biggest opponent to winning the show because of her large fan base .

[Amy Jade]

She said a lot more than Brandi told Paul, she also said he was staggering about ,Good job I had saved all the episodes and could look back on them ,as he DIDNT stagger all about

Chad and Sarah had to go and get him out of the garden though, this was not shown but Sarah, Chad and Paul admitted it last night.

Paul even admitted BB had given him paracetamol and ibuprofen, if he's not sleeping well they could certainly cause him to stagger about...also a lot of us have noticed his staggered speech during the day.

[Paula D]

Chad and Sarah had to go and get him out of the garden though, this was not shown but Sarah, Chad and Paul admitted it last night.

Paul even admitted BB had given him paracetamol and ibuprofen, if he's not sleeping well they could certainly cause him to stagger about...also a lot of us have noticed his staggered speech during the day.

Paracetamol and Ibuprofen would not make anyone stagger or slur their words.

[chuff me dizzy]

Chad and Sarah had to go and get him out of the garden though, this was not shown but Sarah, Chad and Paul admitted it last night.

Paul even admitted BB had given him paracetamol and ibuprofen, if he's not sleeping well they could certainly cause him to stagger about...also a lot of us have noticed his staggered speech during the day.

Yes it was shown,they were moaning in the bedroom about the lights being on ,he didn't stagger all over the place as Sarah claimed he did

[Paula D]

We don't really know when this incident occurred, that's what bugged me, there is not context.

The only night I remember someone having to go out to the garden to get someone was when Paul went out to get Chad and Amelia in. That was when he said to Chad, "don't worry you can get her tomorrow". I don't think it's that occasion they're talking about because they weren't sent out for Paul then, he went out to get Chad.

[Amy Jade]

Paracetamol and Ibuprofen would not make anyone stagger or slur their words.

I don't mean taking them would, I just mean if he's tired and asked for medicine to cure it its definately possible he could have been struggling in some capacity to sleep and become a bit disorientated.

[MrWong]

No doubt about it Paul and Jemma are in a gang,problem is that gang only has two members really at present but has managed to con the rest of the house to vote the way they want. No doubt Paul and Jemma are using the so often repeated dirty tricks of cowardly bullies in the house,and yes I did use the word bullying ,because it is bullying regardless of if some fo you who support scum choose to argue it isn't to try & get your scum off the hook .

Jemma & Paul have been definitely doing the usual,gang up together , spread lies about your biggest competition / who has best chance of winning instead of you, and don't vote for each other .

AND TRISHA AND BRANDI WHO ARE NOT MEMBERS OF PAUL AND JEMMA S DUO ARE STILL USING IT TO TARGET SOMEONE WITH A LARGE FAN BASE IE SARAH WHO THEY SEE AS THEIR MAIN COMPETITION TO WINNING CBB . SO to sum up Paul & Jemma ganging up , same old dirty tricks used so often before on BB and whist Brandi & Trisha aren t in their gang they are still using what paul & Jemma do to target her too because they see her as their biggest opponent obstacle to winning the show because of her large an base .

I really don't think that hm's like Helen, Derek, Sandi and Shaun are that feeble minded tbh.

[lewis111]

I put a big part of the blame on Brandi
She knew in what way Sarah made the comment - wasn't at all inciting anything or malicious
But she made out to Paul like Sarah said he was a junkie or something

But Paul was absolutely disgusting screaming at her like that - Infront of everyone as well - without even talking to her

[lewis111]

it honestly blows my mind that people are supporting the way Paul spoke to Sarah tonight
Screaming in her face despite having no idea what she said - I'm not saying people have to support Sarah I get she's annoying but come on he was so vile

[MrWong]

it honestly blows my mind that people are supporting the way Paul spoke to Sarah tonight
Screaming in her face despite having no idea what she said - I'm not saying people have to support Sarah I get she's annoying but come on he was so vile

Isn't only 1 or 2 people though?

[Ellen]

]I put a big part of the blame on Brandi[/B]
She knew in what way Sarah made the comment - wasn't at all inciting anything or malicious
But she made out to Paul like Sarah said he was a junkie or something

But Paul was absolutely disgusting screaming at her like that - Infront of everyone as well - without even talking to her

Agree and she did not put Paul right in what was actually said and they all sat there like wet lettuce's whilst he ranted!
He slags her off for getting upset at their bitching and him bringing up her alcohol all the time but he goes into meltdown over an innocent comment she made about his meds.

[Amy Jade]

Sarah said Paul was on meds. Brandi literally said exactly what Sarah had told her so I have no idea why she is being blamed.

[lewis111]

Sarah said Paul was on meds. Brandi literally said exactly what Sarah had told her so I have no idea why she is being blamed.

She said something like "Sarah said you took a pill"
With no context to it being to help him sleep or anything
It also wasn't needed in the conversation she just chucked it in and the most logical reason would be so Paul would attack Sarah - she knew he would not react well to it

[Jake.]

Sarah said Paul was on meds. Brandi literally said exactly what Sarah had told her so I have no idea why she is being blamed.

Because Brandi failed to tell Paul that Sarah was talking about sleep medication. The conversation Sarah had with Brandi lasted a good minute and was pretty in-depth, so for Brandi to relay what Sarah had said back to Paul as "she said you're on meds" was very vague.

[MrWong]

Sarah said Paul was on meds. Brandi literally said exactly what Sarah had told her so I have no idea why she is being blamed.

To take the heat off poor little victim Sarah.

[tb24259]

Bear in mind that earlier this series Sarah also called him a psycho and mocked his battle with drink etc. His struggles are all still obviously very much ongoing and he is trying really hard to avoid drink in there which is making him hyper sensitive to anything about it. Give the guy a break

Sarah is also obviously very sensitive to it by her breakdown over people calling her fragile so that's why Paul saw it as doubly offensive

If he's so controlled by alcohol that he can't be around people who drink he should have signed up for rehab not Big Brother

[JayGreen]

It was a massive overreaction.

[Vicky.]

May as well have made the poll a are you a paul or sarah fan choice.

Well no...a handful of members will actually admit when their fave does something wrong. Not many mind, but some. It annoys me how many wull blindly defend faves sometimes..as I find it a little silly. Admitting your fave has flaws and (shock horror) is human does not mean you can't support them anymore :laugh:

[Vicky.]

Because they have either conned others vote for her or MORE LIKELY most of them like most people ARE SHEEP and go along with what the current trend tends to be and don't like to get involved or go against what appears to be the current trend

,MST have voted for Sarah because of that . Like it or lump it , most people act like sheep and go along with what appears to be the current trend with anything for a quiet life

, but don t forget also that some of the others who voted for her may also be corrupt too because they also see Sarah as their biggest opponent to winning the show because of her large fan base .

OR...she actually does behave in the way the nominations suggested she did. I can't see Helen, or Sandi, or even Shaun being manipulated into voting for someone. Not sure if those 2 did vote Sarah as my memory isn;t great, but I think it was pretty much the whole house?

So yeah, I think its pretty insulting to the housemates to suggest that they are just sheep, just because they voted for someone you like :laugh:

[DouglasS]

OR...she actually does behave in the way the nominations suggested she did. I can't see Helen, or Sandi, or even Shaun being manipulated into voting for someone. Not sure if those 2 did vote Sarah as my memory isn;t great, but I think it was pretty much the whole house?

So yeah, I think its pretty insulting to the housemates to suggest that they are just sheep, just because they voted for someone you like :laugh:

Yeah I do think Sarah might be a bit difficult or self-obsessed. However that doesn't mean she should be orschsised, treated like **** or spoken too like a piece of rubbish on the floor, or smirked at when shes shouted at.

I also thought Gary Busey was difficult to live with, he said insensitive things. Both him and Sarah in some ways were difficult, neither deserved a anti cult like mob attacking them for everything they do. Or people telling their friends [Audley, or Chad for Sarah] to stay away from them.

Therefore regardless of the situation, if someone is shouting directly into someones face without dealing with the situation properly are in the wrong. Especially when as Sarah said, someone had been **** stirring [Brandi] and didn't actually relay what Sarah had said.

[Vicky.]

Chad and Sarah had to go and get him out of the garden though, this was not shown but Sarah, Chad and Paul admitted it last night.

Paul even admitted BB had given him paracetamol and ibuprofen, if he's not sleeping well they could certainly cause him to stagger about...also a lot of us have noticed his staggered speech during the day.

What, paracetamol and ibuprofen?! Could make him stagger about?

Nah..I doubt it. I think he is on a cocktail of meds (pretty much like myself as I get like that sometimes with my prescribed drugs) and I think this is why he went so OTT when meds were mentioned tbh. It will be a sore spot for him...as noone really wants the world knowing how medicated they are. I have snapped before when people make little digs...for example 'oh go take your ****ing morphine and cheer up' or something.

Not exusing what he did or anything, just explaining from my point of view :laugh:


Edit. I think I misread this post..you meant the not sleeping properly could make him stagger didn't you? D: Yes, definitely given I have just read your answer to someone else that clarifys this. Sorry.I should read the whole thread before posting lol

[MrWong]

Yeah I do think Sarah might be a bit difficult or self-obsessed. However that doesn't mean she should be orschsised, treated like **** or spoken too like a piece of rubbish on the floor, or smirked at when shes shouted at.

I also thought Gary Busey was difficult to live with, he said insensitive things. Both him and Sarah in some ways were difficult, neither deserved a anti cult like mob attacking them for everything they do. Or people telling their friends [Audley, or Chad for Sarah] to stay away from them.

Therefore regardless of the situation, if someone is shouting directly into someones face without dealing with the situation properly are in the wrong. Especially when as Sarah said, someone had been **** stirring [Brandi] and didn't actually relay what Sarah had said.

Only a few of them are doing that though.
Derek and Sandi nominated Sarah but they've still been supportive of her along with Amelia, Chad and Helen. Even Karthick.

Maybe Sarah's dramatics lead you to believe that she's being ostracized?