View Full Version : Is this the worst season of big brother US ever?
LemonJam
14-08-2017, 06:59 AM
I'm not usually one to jump the gun before a season has ended but this season is just... truly awful. It's totally stagnant in terms of storyline, has a terrible cast and is like a lovechild of BB16 and survivor redemption island.
Is this pretty much concensus already or do we still think 9/14/16/18/other is worse?
Macie Lightfoot
14-08-2017, 07:05 AM
For me it's definitely in the bottom dredges but I'm still not sure how I'd rank it among 12/14/16/18 (wow good job Allison, your formula is really working well) and probably won't be sure until the season's near the end. Like, I'd say that so far it's probably better than 14/16/18 for me, but we're like three days into the second half of the season and it already seems irredeemable. It's like we just jumped out of a plane to go skydiving and suddenly realized that we forgot our parachute.
Dominic
14-08-2017, 07:23 AM
I'm only wiki-watching the season, but from most of the stuff I've read it looks even more insufferable than 14, 16, 18 and 8 :worry:
Calderyon
14-08-2017, 08:12 AM
Itīs getting very close. Especially if Paul ends up winning the whole thing.
reece(:
14-08-2017, 10:07 AM
Nearly as bad as 16
DouglasS
14-08-2017, 10:12 AM
It's the worst I think.
Definitely worse than 12, 16 and 18. I didn't see the second half of 14 so I'm unsure.
At least 16 had Donny and Zack who made it pretty far.
Wizard.
14-08-2017, 10:20 AM
I haven't even watched all the seasons and I think it's getting to that point. Up until, I'd say Jess used the Hex I was really enjoying it because there was so much more drama than 18 which I found really quite boring, but now it's like there's no hope of it getting good and the cast is just TERRIBLE and I can't even blame Paul at this point in time.
Jack_
14-08-2017, 10:21 AM
That title goes to BB18
Talking of Paul winning, if he does this could end up as my favourite season since BB11
Dominic
14-08-2017, 10:47 AM
Paul's loss puts BB18 above the other awful seasons :clap1:
DouglasS
14-08-2017, 11:31 AM
That title goes to BB18
Talking of Paul winning, if he does this could end up as my favourite season since BB11
Casual viewers may say that as its a very fake show, it's not 'Big Brother' its almost scripted. For feedsters and people following the ins of the show its infuriating however.
AarynGriesfan
14-08-2017, 12:35 PM
It has then potential to be the worst but so far 9 still holds that record. 16 is currently better than it but that could change.
reece(:
14-08-2017, 12:59 PM
It has then potential to be the worst but so far 9 still holds that record. 16 is currently better than it but that could change.
Anything with Sheila in is not the worst season
DouglasS
14-08-2017, 01:10 PM
9 was the worst until BB14 came along[potentially 12 but it was my first season so i have a soft spot for it despite it being kinda dull].
LemonJam
14-08-2017, 01:40 PM
12 was actually not bad in the first half, 16 suffered probably the worst boot order in BBUS history (can we imagine a Devin/Paola/Joey/Brittany final 4 for a moment?), 18 I gave up straight after our heavenly father, the lord, our messiah, Jozea was evicted so I don't really know what happened lol.
So it'd be a toss up against 14 for me which I honestly can't think of a redeemable quality for (well, maybe Joe :love:)
Dominic
14-08-2017, 01:43 PM
12 was actually not bad in the first half, 16 suffered probably the worst boot order in BBUS history, 18 I gave up straight after our heavenly father, the lord, our messiah, Jozea was evicted so I don't really know what happened lol.
You haven't really missed out on anything then, well other than Natalie/Bridgette/Day tbf but even then they weren't shown that much
DouglasS
14-08-2017, 01:47 PM
The worst 3 are BB19, BB14 and BB18 I agree.
I think BB18 is slightly better than both because pre-jury it was a mess in a good way. It was very entertaining as well, because characters like Tiff, Frank.
Nicole and Paulie sucked out the enjoyment in the second half though.
Whereas BB19 has sucked from pretty early on with the enjoyment being sucked out pre-jury. Also BB14 was just a mess - the cast, the producer involvement, the twist. So it's still between BB14/BB19 for worst season, just narrowing out BB18 for me.
reece(:
14-08-2017, 01:48 PM
BB18 had Da'Vonne in jury so is automatically better than 14/16/19 etc.
Macie Lightfoot
14-08-2017, 01:53 PM
Da'Vonne was not that good lol. And BB18 was dead on arrival, I can't remember a season that was so evidently **** as soon as the feeds turned on. There were exactly five days of entertainment with Paulie's downfall but then it went back to **** again.
Dominic
14-08-2017, 02:02 PM
BB18 was a frustrating experience as anytime there's hope for something good to happen some ****er ruins it. There's literally only one tolerable person left in the F8 :skull:
DouglasS
14-08-2017, 02:14 PM
BB18 was a frustrating experience as anytime there's hope for something good to happen some ****er ruins it. There's literally only one tolerable person left in the F8 :skull:
I assume you're alluding to Victor.
Michelle/Natalie had phases of being good HM's also.
Jason.
14-08-2017, 02:15 PM
I liken this season to cancer. It seemed perfectly healthy at first, until a malignant tumor suddenly appeared, and it spread quick. It got to a stage where it became terminal and it's now in its final days.
In regards to it being the worst, I've only seen about five seasons (the good ones) and it doesn't compare, so what do I know.
Dominic
14-08-2017, 02:28 PM
I liken this season to cancer. It seemed perfectly healthy at first, until a malignant tumor suddenly appeared, and it spread quick. It got to a stage where it became terminal and it's now in its final days.
In regards to it being the worst, I've only seen about five seasons (the good ones) and it doesn't compare, so what do I know.
6/11/17 and what are the other two again? :laugh:
Wizard.
14-08-2017, 02:29 PM
BBOTT isn't worried let's put it that way!
EspeonBB
14-08-2017, 02:39 PM
Right now I'd still say 16 and 18 are worse. Despite 19 being awful I did genuinely enjoy the early drama whereas I don't think I enjoyed anything about 16 or 18 (ok maybe Paulie's downfall for the latter but that was only 1 week)
Epic.
14-08-2017, 02:39 PM
I don't watch BBUS but I've seen plenty of clips to understand the hatred of it. Paul in particular represents one of my most hated TV archetypes, which is a loud overbearing asshole who thinks goading people and loud volume is entertaining for him and his friends and gives him an advantage. Sounds like an utter season ruiner, not that I know much about anyone else in this season.
I can't comment on whether this is the worst season since i've never seen BBUS but i wouldn't hold it against someone to think it is by the looks of things
LukeB
14-08-2017, 02:40 PM
15 was my least favourite season but 19 overtakes that now.
Jason.
14-08-2017, 02:40 PM
6/11/17 and what are the other two again? :laugh:
I think 15 is the only other one I've seen fully oop. I've seen bits of BB2/3.
Jason.
14-08-2017, 02:45 PM
I don't watch BBUS but I've seen plenty of clips to understand the hatred of it. Paul in particular represents one of my most hated TV archetypes, which is a loud overbearing asshole who thinks goading people and loud volume is entertaining for him and his friends and gives him an advantage. Sounds like an utter season ruiner, not that I know much about anyone else in this season.
I can't comment on whether this is the worst season since i've never seen BBUS but i wouldn't hold it against someone to think it is by the looks of things
He's the American equivalent to Bear :joker:
LukeB
14-08-2017, 02:46 PM
The only seasons i hate are 9/15/19
I love or like or find alright the rest tbh :laugh:
Macie Lightfoot
14-08-2017, 03:13 PM
The more I think about it I kinda liken this season to 12? A few Big Characters who make it about halfway to keep your interest temporarily, but once they're gone you come to the sick realization that there isn't even a game being played save for one or two people. Again, I'm someone who doesn't care about good gameplay or bad gameplay but no gameplay is a huge problem since this is, hello, a game show. These people are perfectly content with making jury, openly see Paul playing the game, and just simply do not care a ****. Jason offered to be nominated so that the house wouldn't have the opportunity to flip on Paul. Matt is elated that once Cody is evicted this week Paul can coast until the final five. Alex wants to lose to him in the final two. Now all we need is for Christmas to pull a Britney Haynes and ask "lol so how weird is it that there were no alliances this season?" only for her to get booted in tears at final four. Like, I don't think Jody are similar to Brenchel at all but they serve the same purpose.
alol how sad is it that BB15, the season with a national racism scandal, will be one of the better seasons of the 2010s? That's the grim reality we're facing.
Mokka
14-08-2017, 03:20 PM
I voted yes because I wanted to agree that LJ is always right ... but also because I gave up on this season, mostly because of what Macie has already said...
Jason.
14-08-2017, 03:23 PM
I'm surprised BB12 is considered one of the bad seasons, I would've thought people would like it just for Rachel alone :laugh: What's the consensus on BB13?
I think it's almost as bad as BB16 and BB18, but BB18 is slightly above it because there were some entertaining moments, and BB16 is such a low point for this show I don't think anything can be worse than that (though this season is sure as hell trying to be)
^ I think BB13 was pretty good, I know a lot of people don't like it but I don't really know why (apart from the obvious rigging for Rachel)
Dominic
14-08-2017, 03:31 PM
I'm surprised BB12 is considered one of the bad seasons, I would've thought people would like it just for Rachel alone :laugh: What's the consensus on BB13?
Rachel is the only reason why BB12 was somewhat enjoyable, as the drama/arguments were almost always revolved around her. Besides that the whole season was dominated by one awful alliance and no one else showed any sense of gameplay, and once she went it was a boring ****fest.
BB13 is usually in the middle of everyone's rankings. I personally enjoy it to an extent as it has a divide and and some drama/arguments to keep you entertained, but it falls flat and the riggage is annoying (although it's the reason someone won so I'm not complaining).
Dominic
14-08-2017, 03:35 PM
BB13 also gave us the best double eviction of all time <3
Macie Lightfoot
14-08-2017, 04:38 PM
I'm surprised BB12 is considered one of the bad seasons, I would've thought people would like it just for Rachel alone :laugh: What's the consensus on BB13?
12 did have Rachel (and Kathy alol :love:) but it was still soooooo bad and pathetic. There was literally one alliance all season and they steamrolled all the way to the end without much threat or worry at all, to the point where the girl that came in fourth place was like "lol so guys how weird is it that there were no alliances this season????" only for the other three dudes to tell her that they were aligned the whole time and she was getting embarrassingly booted the next day while she sobbed about it. The cast was also pretty tame by BB standards and they were SO convinced that they were making great television that it got to a point in like Week 2 where they had a stupid house meeting and afterwards they were so proud of themselves and all "WOW, they're gonna need to add a fourth episode this week to show all the CRAZINESS and MAYHEM!!!!!" when nothing happened at all and it was a struggle just to fill three episodes. Like, the season doesn't seem bad in hindsight because it was followed up by a bunch seasons that were somehow even worse but it was very bad.
and BB13 is okay. Some good and some bad. An annoying cult of veterans and their worshippers and some likable underdogs. Some semblance of power shifts and some of the most blatant rigs in BBUS history. A mixed bag that is not exactly good, but it shines like a star compared to most of the seasons that preceded and followed it.
Ross.
14-08-2017, 04:48 PM
Oh I was enjoying it before I went on holiday :worry: I'm guessing it got trash
Macie Lightfoot
14-08-2017, 04:57 PM
omg yay Ross is back. But yeah this season has quickly turned grim! The signs were really there the whole time but it's starting to manifest itself big time.
Macie Lightfoot
14-08-2017, 05:13 PM
Also, can we talk about how these HGs broke the Temptation Competition even quicker than Battle of the Block was broken? Another lame twist in the books.
RileyH
14-08-2017, 05:18 PM
Everyone's such a ****ing sheep for Paul and it's so infuriating to watch. Especially with Jess being robbed of jury even though she was the only one playing a rival game. True queen and star of the season.
Jason.
14-08-2017, 05:24 PM
Rachel is the only reason why BB12 was somewhat enjoyable, as the drama/arguments were almost always revolved around her. Besides that the whole season was dominated by one awful alliance and no one else showed any sense of gameplay, and once she went it was a boring ****fest.
BB13 is usually in the middle of everyone's rankings. I personally enjoy it to an extent as it has a divide and and some drama/arguments to keep you entertained, but it falls flat and the riggage is annoying (although it's the reason someone won so I'm not complaining).
12 did have Rachel (and Kathy alol :love:) but it was still soooooo bad and pathetic. There was literally one alliance all season and they steamrolled all the way to the end without much threat or worry at all, to the point where the girl that came in fourth place was like "lol so guys how weird is it that there were no alliances this season????" only for the other three dudes to tell her that they were aligned the whole time and she was getting embarrassingly booted the next day while she sobbed about it. The cast was also pretty tame by BB standards and they were SO convinced that they were making great television that it got to a point in like Week 2 where they had a stupid house meeting and afterwards they were so proud of themselves and all "WOW, they're gonna need to add a fourth episode this week to show all the CRAZINESS and MAYHEM!!!!!" when nothing happened at all and it was a struggle just to fill three episodes. Like, the season doesn't seem bad in hindsight because it was followed up by a bunch seasons that were somehow even worse but it was very bad.
and BB13 is okay. Some good and some bad. An annoying cult of veterans and their worshippers and some likable underdogs. Some semblance of power shifts and some of the most blatant rigs in BBUS history. A mixed bag that is not exactly good, but it shines like a star compared to most of the seasons that preceded and followed it.
See that's one of the things I find off-putting about BBUS, when all the worst people manage to somehow align, dominate and then make it to the end. That's why I enjoyed BB6 so much because it was simply just two sides going after each other and the power shifted equally between the two, so it never felt like a steamroll with one side having the upper hand.
Dominic
14-08-2017, 05:34 PM
See that's one of the things I find off-putting about BBUS, when all the worst people manage to somehow align, dominate and then make it to the end. That's why I enjoyed BB6 so much because it was simply just two sides going after each other and the power shifted equally between the two, so it never felt like a steamroll with one side having the upper hand.
I think you'd enjoy BB13 for that reason. It's a little boring for the first few weeks as the vets have full control and most of the newbies are minions, however later on it becomes a battle of the veterans (except one) and an all female alliance called The Babysitter's Club (:love:), with the power alternating every week and the floaters (don't know if this is the right term to use but w/e) jumping to whichever alliance is in control. It's a tame divide and nowhere near as interesting as Friendship vs Sovs but still pleasant.
Macie Lightfoot
14-08-2017, 05:36 PM
Jason you would *LOVE* OTT then. Some of the stuff is tamed down for the episodes but there's plenty of supplemental YouTube clips, the power literally goes back and forth until the very end, and the ending is very satisfying.
Jason.
14-08-2017, 06:17 PM
I think you'd enjoy BB13 for that reason. It's a little boring for the first few weeks as the vets have full control and most of the newbies are minions, however later on it becomes a battle of the veterans (except one) and an all female alliance called The Babysitter's Club (:love:), with the power alternating every week and the floaters (don't know if this is the right term to use but w/e) jumping to whichever alliance is in control. It's a tame divide and nowhere near as interesting as Friendship vs Sovs but still pleasant.
I've seen a few clips of BB13 (granted, they were all arguments lol but still) and it does intrigue me?
Jason you would *LOVE* OTT then. Some of the stuff is tamed down for the episodes but there's plenty of supplemental YouTube clips, the power literally goes back and forth until the very end, and the ending is very satisfying.
Yeah, you and Luke are selling me OTT. I always assumed it was just a spin-off to the main show but then I remembered a post of yours from a few weeks back where you mentioned that BB17 and OTT are like the only two good seasons from this decade, so it's hard to pass up.
Captain.Remy
14-08-2017, 07:07 PM
12 and 16 were bad seasons.
At least we had Jess this season.
JerseyWins
14-08-2017, 08:49 PM
I actually think BB19 is a best season of all time candidate. :joker: It's definitely on pace for top 5.
But then again I think BB12 is sort of top 5-ish and BB16 wasn't a bad season at all (it's one of the better ones until the very end - which wasn't even too bad cause I liked the end result anyway). So allow your mind to get blown.
BB14 or BB15 is the worst season ever (or BB9 but I find it hard to even count it because it was lulzy and different).
The fact I still LOVED Dan throughout BB14 and still found it hard to get through BB14 probably says something about that season. And BB15 was just bad all around. BB18 wasn't good at all but it wasn't awful either.
OTT was NOT good and that's also despite me liking a lot of the people who made it far. The entire season just felt very weird. I could've sworn people weren't enjoying it at the time either?
reece(:
14-08-2017, 09:13 PM
I wanna know what meds Jersey is on to enjoy all these cancerous seasons :think:
JerseyWins
14-08-2017, 09:20 PM
I wanna know what meds Jersey is on to enjoy all these cancerous seasons :think:
You need to start taking your friendship pills.
Wizard.
14-08-2017, 09:24 PM
What I wanna know is why did Paul get brought back but not our second place queen Liz Nolan?
Dominic
14-08-2017, 09:26 PM
Probably bc in reality Liz won over Stevil :flutter:
Macie Lightfoot
14-08-2017, 09:45 PM
It's true
http://i.imgur.com/A56taFl.png
Headie
14-08-2017, 09:53 PM
Yep - at least BB15 had Elissa, Canduce, Helen, Jessie and Howard, and BB16 had Donny, Pao Pao, Jocasta, Brittney.
BB18 literally only has Dominique as an unproblematic, likeable individual, everyone has been trash in one way or another
AarynGriesfan
14-08-2017, 09:53 PM
The better question is why did we get stuck with ****ing James last season instead of Liz.
Dominic
14-08-2017, 09:57 PM
Helen was trash and shaped BB15 up to be awful.
Jack_
14-08-2017, 10:27 PM
18 is way worse than this season, nothing happened, it was dominated by Paulie (yes bring on the Paul comparisons xx) and only his downfall was entertaining, there was little drama (more happened at the ****ing jury house) and it ended with one of - dare I say the - worst winner(s) of all time. The only thing it had going for it was Da'Vonne and Paul
At least this season had a load of messy drama at the beginning and some semblance of a divide, I understand why people think it's stagnated and everyone's tolerance threshold is different but the pre-jury alone wiped the floor with last season
Headie
15-08-2017, 12:26 AM
^ BB18 had Da'Vonne, Big Meech, Bridgette, Bronte, Jozea, Natalie etc so at least it had entertaining individual characters
Dominique is literally the only one from this season who hasn't done anything problematic at all (and Cameron but we never saw him on feeds)/ Jessica was fun to root for but even she wasn't perfect. Everyone else is literal trash.
Jack_
15-08-2017, 12:44 AM
^ BB18 had Da'Vonne, Big Meech, Bridgette, Bronte, Jozea, Natalie etc so at least it had entertaining individual characters
Dominique is literally the only one from this season who hasn't done anything problematic at all (and Cameron but we never saw him on feeds)/ Jessica was fun to root for but even she wasn't perfect. Everyone else is literal trash.
Bridgette, Natalie and Bronte were perfectly likeable but not entertaining or memorable, Meech and Jozea were but hardly set the season on fire for the two weeks they delivered each
I do wish Cameron had won the BattleBack (and actually maybe the dynamics would've changed had Cody not returned) but far more has happened this season than did last, sure it'd be nice to actually like some houseguests as people but give me a season like this with drama and uncomfortable scenes over one where nothing happens and there's like two good DR characters. I liken this season to a social experiment in a cesspool, I know you don't agree with my BB15 comparison but I was invested in that for largely the same reason and this is the same
Macie Lightfoot
15-08-2017, 12:52 AM
I mean I sometimes buy into the "Big Brother is a microcosm for the world we live in" stuff but at least half of the current HGs are just house fixtures at this point. Like, the social experiment is just watching Paul spend three weeks aggressively moving his chess pieces more often than necessary and everyone else just being complicit.
JerseyWins
15-08-2017, 01:11 AM
^ BB18 had Da'Vonne, Big Meech, Bridgette, Bronte, Jozea, Natalie etc so at least it had entertaining individual characters
Dominique is literally the only one from this season who hasn't done anything problematic at all (and Cameron but we never saw him on feeds)/ Jessica was fun to root for but even she wasn't perfect. Everyone else is literal trash.
Not Jessica getting a "even she wasn't perfect but everyone else is literal trash" when Jessica has been one of the worst in terms of being problematic. If you're going to base them on moralistic standards, Jessica should be close to the bottom where Cody is firmly at on this season. Jessica on her final week alone: fat shaming, stupid shaming (:joker:), being just as catty / more catty than the people who are hated on this season for being that. :joker:
Why does everyone say this cast is so vile anyway? Not many people on this cast have really been bad at all. The few who have are actually the few who are liked the most this season lol (and hopefully both about to be gone), so surely that's not actually the problem for the cast? :shrug: What have people like Matt/Raven/Mark/Elena/Kevin/Alex/Christmas done wrong from a moral point of view? Even Josh hasn't said many hateful things at all, he just actively annoys people. :joker: Jason has said a few ignorant things but is ditzy and isn't mean spirited. Paul had the whole blackface thing that was blown out of proportion and potentially completely misunderstood. There really isn't much to say negatively about these people aside from a few incidents.
I'm not sure why the cast isn't liked aside from most of them being close with Paul (which I guess for those who don't like Paul it can be annoying but meh). It's a solid, entertaining cast that's bringing drama week after week and really isn't a cast full of scum as advertised. :shrug:
JerseyWins
15-08-2017, 01:16 AM
Like, the social experiment is just watching Paul spend three weeks aggressively moving his chess pieces more often than necessary and everyone else just being complicit.
I kinda get this though. I personally don't mind it as I enjoy watching a player take control of the game in their own way (Dan, Derrick, Dr. Will, Vanessa, Paul) whether I like the character or not... and if those 5 examples are any indication, I typically actually like the seasons where a player dominates. :shrug:
reece(:
15-08-2017, 01:20 AM
Not Jessica getting a "even she wasn't perfect but everyone else is literal trash" when Jessica has been one of the worst in terms of being problematic. If you're going to base them on moralistic standards, Jessica should be close to the bottom where Cody is firmly at on this season. Jessica on her final week alone: fat shaming, stupid shaming (:joker:), being just as catty / more catty than the people who are hated on this season for being that. :joker:
Why does everyone say this cast is so vile anyway? Not many people on this cast have really been bad at all. The few who have are actually the few who are liked the most this season lol (and hopefully both about to be gone), so surely that's not actually the problem for the cast? :shrug: What have people like Matt/Raven/Mark/Elena/Kevin/Alex/Christmas done wrong from a moral point of view? Even Josh hasn't said many hateful things at all, he just actively annoys people. :joker: Jason has said a few ignorant things but is ditzy and isn't mean spirited. Paul had the whole blackface thing that was blown out of proportion and potentially completely misunderstood. There really isn't much to say negatively about these people aside from a few incidents.
I'm not sure why the cast isn't liked aside from most of them being close with Paul (which I guess for those who don't like Paul it can be annoying but meh). It's a solid, entertaining cast that's bringing drama week after week and really isn't a cast full of scum as advertised. :shrug:
Troy will have his essay delivered to you in due course!
EspeonBB
15-08-2017, 01:34 AM
What the hell is "stupid shaming" :skull:
I do acknowledge she is catty/petty but then some of my BB faves are
Headie
15-08-2017, 01:37 AM
Not Jessica getting a "even she wasn't perfect but everyone else is literal trash" when Jessica has been one of the worst in terms of being problematic. If you're going to base them on moralistic standards, Jessica should be close to the bottom where Cody is firmly at on this season. Jessica on her final week alone: fat shaming, stupid shaming (:joker:), being just as catty / more catty than the people who are hated on this season for being that. :joker:
Why does everyone say this cast is so vile anyway? Not many people on this cast have really been bad at all. The few who have are actually the few who are liked the most this season lol (and hopefully both about to be gone), so surely that's not actually the problem for the cast? :shrug: What have people like Matt/Raven/Mark/Elena/Kevin/Alex/Christmas done wrong from a moral point of view? Even Josh hasn't said many hateful things at all, he just actively annoys people. :joker: Jason has said a few ignorant things but is ditzy and isn't mean spirited. Paul had the whole blackface thing that was blown out of proportion and potentially completely misunderstood. There really isn't much to say negatively about these people aside from a few incidents.
I'm not sure why the cast isn't liked aside from most of them being close with Paul (which I guess for those who don't like Paul it can be annoying but meh). It's a solid, entertaining cast that's bringing drama week after week and really isn't a cast full of scum as advertised. :shrug:
I've already said Jessica was problematic and the only unproblematic people were Dominique and Cameron
Jess (and to a lesser extent Cody) were only rooted for out of conventionality and the fact they're the only ones not being followers, but they're still awful people in an awful season
EDIT: In fact I take that back, I don't think Jess is as awful as you make out. She was problematic but compared to everyone else she's an angel
Jason.
15-08-2017, 01:46 AM
I don't even think Jess is that problematic tbh? At worst, she's just petty and bitchy but then again who wouldn't be when you're stuck in a house with people that hate you and are actively goading you for their own amusement.
Also, you don't have to be problematic to be unlikable.
JerseyWins
15-08-2017, 01:50 AM
EDIT: In fact I take that back, I don't think Jess is as awful as you make out. She was problematic but compared to everyone else she's an angel
I was thinking fair enough until the edit... :skull: mainly the "compared to everyone else"
Which houseguests have done worse then: fat shame, humiliate, constantly call someone stupid and belittle them, and been the right hand man (woman) to a transphobe (/generally nasty & mean person) constantly involved with their comments? Not that the last part is that bad on her but it says something.
At worst it's not many of them..
JerseyWins
15-08-2017, 01:58 AM
Also, you don't have to be problematic to be unlikable.
Yeah I agree there. In fact being problematic =/= being unlikable either IMO. I'm just saying since many people keep saying how "problematic" this cast is where are the actual instances outside of the main problematic ones actually being Jody?
Me waiting for the receipts
https://i.imgur.com/2XgobtC.gif
Macie Lightfoot
15-08-2017, 02:32 AM
Troy will have his essay delivered to you in due course!
Ugh do I even need to? I feel like I've spent all summer cataloging Raven's histrionic personality disorder coupled with Munchausen's by proxy, Paul's Napoleon complex and strategy to incite the house to bully the pariah of the week, Josh pathetically getting used and abuse by the Jury Herd and not being able to take nearly half of what he dishes out, Christmas being a completely miserable bitch who marries condescension with hypocrisy, and people like Alex and Matt and now Jason HAPPILY being pawns and getting off to all of the bull**** that's going on. Like, if you've made it this far through Paul justifying his bullying as Strategy and Gameplay and everything that happened after the POV Meeting two weeks ago and anything that Raven has ever said or done, me recapping it isn't going to change anyone's minds. It's all been recapped for nearly two months now.
JTM45
15-08-2017, 04:33 AM
Dominique's constant religious spoutings got right up my ****ing nose!!! ''The Lord'' this ''God'' that ''Jesus'' the other ...............blah, blah, awful blah.
I also think i'd much rather have seen Cameron given the return chance than Cody be given a second chance to waste just to fit in with the Jess/Cody snoozefest storyline ! I felt for Cam, especially considering how much of a BB fan he is and how much he really wanted to play the game.
Last year, although far from a classic, at least had things happening for most of the Season whereas this one was just like it was on Pause for a month +. Dreadful Season.
DrunkerThanMoses
15-08-2017, 06:15 AM
For me yes it is, last season was terrible, but at least I would watch some of the episodes and read the live updates...... this season I am not even bothering to read the updates on a daily basis. I basically just check wikepedia every week to see who won HOH/POV/Evicted
JerseyWins
15-08-2017, 12:13 PM
I also think i'd much rather have seen Cameron given the return chance than Cody be given a second chance to waste just to fit in with the Jess/Cody snoozefest storyline ! I felt for Cam, especially considering how much of a BB fan he is and how much he really wanted to play the game.
Yeah one of the few downsides to this season from a storyline point of view was Cody returning to make it Jody vs. the house again. And people were happy/satisfied to see that. :skull:
A Cameron return could've been interesting (or funny).
However, I'm not complaining about how the results have gone. :fan:
Jason.
15-08-2017, 12:22 PM
Cameron would've aligned with Paul and one DR screamer is enough. He can stay an irrelevant Day 1 boot!
Captain.Remy
16-08-2017, 05:35 PM
Cameron would have added nothing and wouldn't have had the balls to stand up to Paul and ally with Jody.
Still not the worst season for me. If Paul wins it would be logical yet depressing. But at this point, he's the only one deserving because at least he's doing something and controls other people. I don't think we've experienced such massive mind control on so many houseguests? Even Dan didn't run this much people in both season he was in.
And whether he wins or not, Nicole still deserved to win last year so he still will be a second hand winner. So bye.
CaPPa
17-08-2017, 01:12 AM
The problem with this season is that there are no players in there, they just do what Paul tells them to do, so it's hard to pick anyone as being even slightly worthy to win. It should cement Paul as one of the greats though, as nobody has ever dominated a season like he has this year.
Macie Lightfoot
17-08-2017, 01:16 AM
Paul win's would just have a huge asterisk next to it for all the assistance he got along the way from Grodner.
JerseyWins
17-08-2017, 01:18 AM
Paul hasn't gotten too much assistance. He almost definitely would've survived that first week anyway. The rest is all him playing a masterful game. :clap1:
iRyan
17-08-2017, 02:19 AM
I've only watched about 8 episodes of this season, tried to give it a go - but it's just not good. BB has generally gone so down hill since BB11, it's sad.
Dominic
17-08-2017, 08:01 AM
I've only watched about 8 episodes of this season, tried to give it a go - but it's just not good. BB has generally gone so down hill since BB11, it's sad.
17 was the only good season this decade :worry:
Calderyon
17-08-2017, 09:32 AM
Paul hasn't gotten too much assistance. He almost definitely would've survived that first week anyway. The rest is all him playing a masterful game. :clap1:
Friendship bracelets making him and 7 others safe, Three weeks of safety via POP, Everyone basically handing him his first HOH, comps being tailored for him or his cronies, most of the house willing to lose to him in final 2 voluntarily (and i bet DR has had their hand in it all) etc. etc.
Yeah sure he hasnīt gotten "much" help. :rolleyes:
DrunkerThanMoses
17-08-2017, 11:10 AM
Lol evil dIck blocking me and calling me a moron for saying that even if this season is **** it's not rigged like it was for him to win on twitter
Dominic
17-08-2017, 11:24 AM
Lol evil dIck blocking me and calling me a moron for saying that even if this season is **** it's not rigged like it was for him to win on twitter
I tweeted him something similar to this last year and he also blocked me :skull: He's an indenial **** and still acts like he won bc of his "amazing gameplay"
I've only watched about 8 episodes of this season, tried to give it a go - but it's just not good. BB has generally gone so down hill since BB11, it's sad.
Correction. When Jessie got evicted in that season unfairly, was when BBUSA died.
It's been crap ever since then sadly.
AarynGriesfan
20-08-2017, 02:11 PM
I changed my mind this is the worst season ever. Its even worse than 16.
JerseyWins
20-08-2017, 02:17 PM
Slowing down a BIT but still amazing.
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