British Jews considering move abroad due to increasing anti-semitism

[Brillopad]

http://news.sky.com/story/more-british-jews-considering-move-abroad-as-anti-semitism-fears-grow-poll-10997052

I find this very sad as it would be a considerable loss to our country. Jewish people are generally hard working and high achievers and contribute a lot to this country. They assimilate well into Western society.

I believe this increase in anti-semistism is coming mainly from the Muslim population and not something we should tolerate particularly from those who shout about the intolerance of Islam. I am sick of the double standards coming from these communities.

I sincerely hope our government and everyone else will demonstrate a no tolerance policy on this and if push comes to shove put their backing behind those that have become a well respected part of our society. If someone has to go it certainly shouldn't be the Jews.

[Kazanne]

http://news.sky.com/story/more-british-jews-considering-move-abroad-as-anti-semitism-fears-grow-poll-10997052

I find this very sad as it would be a considerable loss to our country. Jewish people are generally hard working and high achievers and contribute a lot to this country. They assimilate well into Western society.

I believe this increase in anti-semistism is coming mainly from the Muslim population and not something we should tolerate particularly from those who shout about the intolerance of Islam. I am sick of the double standards coming from these communities.

I sincerely hope our government and everyone else will demonstrate a no tolerance policy on this and if push comes to shove put their backing behind those that have become a well respected part of our society. If someone has to go it certainly shouldn't be the Jews.

Yes ,always found the Jewish race lovely and hardworking,how sad that they feel they should move, but can't say I blame them the way Britain is going today.:wavey:

[DemolitionRed]

Antisemitism is coming from the far-right. There is absolutely no question about that. The only place you see Jews against Muslims and Muslims against Jews is in Israel/Palestine... not here.

I find it fcuking unbelievable that you would remove the blame from the far-right for this and put it on Muslim shoulders... disgusting.

[Withano]

http://news.sky.com/story/more-british-jews-considering-move-abroad-as-anti-semitism-fears-grow-poll-10997052

I find this very sad as it would be a considerable loss to our country. Jewish people are generally hard working and high achievers and contribute a lot to this country. They assimilate well into Western society.

I believe this increase in anti-semistism is coming mainly from the Muslim population and not something we should tolerate particularly from those who shout about the intolerance of Islam. I am sick of the double standards coming from these communities.

I sincerely hope our government and everyone else will demonstrate a no tolerance policy on this and if push comes to shove put their backing behind those that have become a well respected part of our society. If someone has to go it certainly shouldn't be the Jews.

I find your entire mindset disturbing.

[Smithy]

Antisemitism is coming from the far-right. There is absolutely no question about that. The only place you see Jews against Muslims and Muslims against Jews is in Israel/Palestine... not here.

I find it fcuking unbelievable that you would remove the blame from the far-right for this and put it on Muslim shoulders... disgusting.

Just a very thinly veiled racist thread

[y.winter]

Jews hatred against Muslims and vice versa are far from exclusive to Israel.

[DemolitionRed]

Just a very thinly veiled racist thread

Yes, always covert.

[Shaun]

I'm not nearly informed on the subject enough to comment much but having been to London a lot recently - particularly areas of London that have a higher number of Jewish inhabitants - I've been quite surprised by how quiet it is. Perhaps just compared to the times I've stayed in the South/West of the city :laugh:

But being from a rural part of the country, I guess I'd built up an idea that factions and local communities in London being so race-specific or religion-specific would sort of result in a prototype of Israel on a much smaller scale... not that I was expecting to have to head into London with a hard hat and some kevlar armour or anything, but I'm just from such a sheltered background that it seemed like that was a nightmare waiting to happen.

That said, this 36% rise in antisemitic hate crime the past year mentioned in this article is alarming, so like I said, I can't really comment... but it seems curiously at odds with their other survey:

However, a separate YouGov survey, carried out for the CAA, found that anti-Semitic attitudes in UK society, measured by how many respondents agreed with seven anti-Semitic statements, were declining, with the number of people who agreed with at least one statement down from 45% in 2015 to 36% in 2017.

So I'm not sure if it's just a problem with more crime.

[Brillopad]

Just a very thinly veiled racist thread.


Here we go. Change the record!

It has been reported that there has been anti-semitism coming from Muslims here - I didn't make it up off the top of my head.

[Brillopad]

Yes, always covert.

Unlike you. :nono:

[DemolitionRed]

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[Beso]

Sky news just said incidentss are decreasing.

[Brillopad]

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https://antisemitism.uk/british-muslims/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/18/the-best-cure-for-anti-semitism-in-the-uk-is-to-stop-pretending/

Your patronising tone is beyond boring.

[Brillopad]

I find your entire mindset disturbing.

As I find yours. I didn't write the article - I just posted it and commented on it as you do! :shrug:

[y.winter]

I'm not nearly informed on the subject enough to comment much but having been to London a lot recently - particularly areas of London that have a higher number of Jewish inhabitants - I've been quite surprised by how quiet it is. Perhaps just compared to the times I've stayed in the South/West of the city :laugh:

But being from a rural part of the country, I guess I'd built up an idea that factions and local communities in London being so race-specific or religion-specific would sort of result in a prototype of Israel on a much smaller scale... not that I was expecting to have to head into London with a hard hat and some kevlar armour or anything, but I'm just from such a sheltered background that it seemed like that was a nightmare waiting to happen.

The situation in Israel is basically due to the inevitable Muslim-Jew conflict. The Jewish community itself is quite level headed and their "areas" around the world are mostly friendly and far from fearsome/uncomfortable to walk in. That's including Israel tbh. :)

[Crimson Dynamo]

"However, a separate YouGov survey, carried out for the CAA, found that anti-Semitic attitudes in UK society, measured by how many respondents agreed with seven anti-Semitic statements, were declining, with the number of people who agreed with at least one statement down from 45% in 2015 to 36% in 2017."

[Withano]

As I find yours. I didn't write the article - I just posted it and commented on it as you do! :shrug:

'I know you are but what am I' the comeback.

[Brillopad]

'I know you are but what am I' the comeback.

Stop copying Dezzy. That ridiculous phrase wore thin some time ago. Some originality wouldn't go amiss.

[Withano]

Stop copying Dezzy. That ridiculous phrase wore thin some time ago. Some originality wouldn't go amiss.

Then stop using that tactic at every opportunity as a comeback, and nobody will ever use that phrase. Its literally what children do :joker:

[Brillopad]

Then stop using that tactic at every opportunity as a comeback, and nobody will ever use that phrase. Its literally what children do :joker:

Yeah, you would know. What tactic exactly - saying I didn't write the article I only commented on it. Where did I say that before?

[Withano]

Yeah, you would know.

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

Honestly this is gold :joker::joker:

[Brillopad]

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

Honestly this is gold :joker::joker:

:nono:

[Kizzy]

Sky news just said incidentss are decreasing.

Shhhh!!! That's not going to cause unwarranted division is it?

We want to ramp up the rhetoric and spin to divert attention away from the real issues.

[JTM45]

The far-right absolutely detest Jewish people and everything they stand for. They've been their number 1 target for many decades, long before they jumped on the anti-muslim thing.
The right have always loved anyone they can make a scapegoat for their own failings.

[arista]

Yes Brillo
it is sad
that some move to Israel

They Gave up.........

[JTM45]

Israel. One of the worst abusers of Human Rights in the World today!
They've been illegally occupying massive areas of Palestinian land since 1967. 50 years of persecution and people wonder why the Palestinians fight back.:bored:

[Brillopad]

Israel. One of the worst abusers of Human Rights in the World today!
They've been illegally occupying massive areas of Palestinian land since 1967. 50 years of persecution and people wonder why the Palestinians fight back.:bored:

That's a matter of opinion. The Muslim persecution of Jews is not only morally wrong but will not be tolerated here in Britain. They can't seek protection from persecution from our laws when they themselves are persecuting others.

[JTM45]

It's NOT a matter of opinion! It's FACT!!! Tell me what i typed that isn't 100% fact! Bet you CANNOT and won't even try.

Look at a site like Human Rights Watch and you will see the 'fact's about The Israeli persecution and human rights abuses committed by the Israeli people against the palestinians.
There is far more persecution of Jews in the UK by right-wing neo-nazi and far right groups than there is from Muslims.

Do you actually really believe that the Palestinians haven't been (and are still being) persecuted by the Israelis ? That's common knowledge.

[Brillopad]

There is far more persecution of Jews in the UK by right-wing neo-nazi and far right groups than there is from Muslims.



https://antisemitism.uk/british-muslims/

You are clearly wrong about that!

[JTM45]

'Clearly' not.
That 'study' is purely aimed at antisemitism from Muslims and the British population in general. It's extremely divisive! It acts like right-wing antisemitism doesn't even exist.

There's been strong and significant antisemitism from the right for decades here in Britain, as far back (and before) WWII.

You purely thrive off starting Islamaphobic threads and all it takes is for you to spot a single, often ill-informed, 'news' paper article to fuel your hate and get you running back here to start ANOTHER anti-Muslim thread.

There's entirely Muslim countries that do not conform to your stereo-typically negative views on Muslims yet you never mention those Muslims because it doesn't fit with your narrow, extremely distorted and one-sided views.

Open your eyes and your mind and try broadening your horizons.

[Underscore]

This is bad, very bad.

And people here blaming it on the muslims, oh please.

[Kizzy]

That's a matter of opinion. The Muslim persecution of Jews is not only morally wrong but will not be tolerated here in Britain. They can't seek protection from persecution from our laws when they themselves are persecuting others.

What is a matter of opinion, are you suggesting that there is no persecution of Palestinians?

Why is only persecution of Jews morally wrong? By your definition of PC you are quite clearly guilty of it yourself here.

"The avoidance of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalise or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against"

Either ALL groups are held up for scrutiny or none, you can't cherry pick your faves.

[Brillopad]

What is a matter of opinion, are you suggesting that there is no persecution of Palestinians?

Why is only persecution of Jews morally wrong? By your definition of PC you are quite clearly guilty of it yourself here.

"The avoidance of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalise or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against"

Either ALL groups are held up for scrutiny or none, you can't cherry pick your faves.

The situation in Israel/ Palestine has been going on for ever with much support for both sides of the situation. That has nothing to do with how people behave here. Are you actually saying we should tolerate Muslim persecution of Jewish people in Britain because of the issues over there?

And you talk of cherry picking! :nono:

[Brillopad]

This is bad, very bad.

And people here blaming it on the muslims, oh please.

Studies have doumented the high levels of anti-semitism of British Muslims in this very thread!

[JTM45]

Are you actually saying we should tolerate Muslim persecution of Jewish people in Britain because of the issues over there?

You're the only person that's said that.....here^^^.

[Brother Leon]

So, this is another sly "Get those Muslims Out" thread?


Anti Semiticism is a problem here, as is islamaphobia and general racism. I mean, I don't know if you've been living under a rock, it people are dicks.

[Kizzy]

The situation in Israel/ Palestine has been going on for ever with much support for both sides of the situation. That has nothing to do with how people behave here. Are you actually saying we should tolerate Muslim persecution of Jewish people in Britain because of the issues over there?

And you talk of cherry picking! :nono:

It hasn't been 'going on forever' I never suggested it could or should change anyones behaviour in other countries and I thank you not to put words in my mouth as I have in no way even intimated that any persecution of any group be tolerated.