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Denver
05-09-2017, 11:30 AM
Serving British soldiers are among four alleged members of National Action, the banned neo-Nazi group, arrested on suspicion of preparing acts of terrorism.
The men - a 22-year-old from Birmingham, a 32-year-old from Powys, a 24-year-old from Ipswich and a 24-year-old from Northampton - were held on Tuesday.
The Ministry of Defence confirmed that "a number of serving members of the Army have been arrested under the Terrorism Act".
West Midlands Police said the four men have been arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences.
A spokesman said they "have been arrested on suspicion of being concerned in the commission, preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism under Section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000; namely on suspicion of being a member of a proscribed organisation (National Action) contrary to sec 11 of the Terrorism Act".
All four men are being held at a police station in the West Midlands.
The arrests were carried out by police in conjunction with counter-terror units from the West Midlands, Wales and the East Midlands.
Several properties are being searched in connection with the arrests.
A police spokesman added: "The arrests were pre-planned and intelligence-led; there was no threat to the public’s safety."
An Army spokesman said: "We can confirm that a number of serving members of the Army have been arrested under the Terrorism Act for being associated with a proscribed far right group.
"These arrests are the consequence of a Home Office Police Force led operation supported by the Army. This is now the subject of a civilian police investigation and it would be inappropriate to comment further."
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/05/four-alleged-members-neo-nazi-group-arrested-suspicion-planning/
smudgie
05-09-2017, 11:33 AM
Throw the book at the beggars.:fist:
JTM45
05-09-2017, 03:39 PM
Right-Wing Nazi terrorist SCUM!!!!
This is what all the ignorance-driven BS results in. Just hope this isn't just the tip of the scumberg.
Tom4784
05-09-2017, 03:44 PM
The Rise of Right Wing terrorism continues. 'Alt Right' (read: Neo Nazi) groups need to be called out for what they are and the Right Wing needs to disavow them.
I hope that these people get the book thrown at them and the media doesn't attempt to portray them as anything other than the terrorists they planned to become.
Crimson Dynamo
05-09-2017, 03:51 PM
Just a direct consequence of Islamic terror in the UK, the more Islamic terror the greater risk that people will try to take the law into their own hands from the same socio-demographic and intelligence level
stands to reason, does not make it right but its kind of similar to the UVF/UDA
Denver
05-09-2017, 04:29 PM
Just a direct consequence of Islamic terror in the UK, the more Islamic terror the greater risk that people will try to take the law into their own hands from the same socio-demographic and intelligence level
stands to reason, does not make it right but its kind of similar to the UVF/UDA
I forgot the whole reason for the nazis was to fight make against islamic terrorists in the 20's and 30's
Crimson Dynamo
05-09-2017, 04:47 PM
I forgot the whole reason for the nazis was to fight make against islamic terrorists in the 20's and 30's
Im sorry that sentence does not make sense :shrug:
Oliver_W
05-09-2017, 05:33 PM
Im sorry that sentence does not make sense :shrug:
I think he's trying to say something like "yeah, the rise of the Nazis in the 20s and 30s was totally because they were Islamophobic lol" or something.
The Rise of Right Wing terrorism continues. 'Alt Right' (read: Neo Nazi) groups need to be called out for what they are and the Right Wing needs to disavow them.
I hope that these people get the book thrown at them and the media doesn't attempt to portray them as anything other than the terrorists they planned to become.Of course it is, and I'd expect it'll continue too.
While people are being thrown in prison for putting a few rashers of Bacon on a building and so called hate speech, while at the same time importing terrorism.
People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves.
If I had to make a guess, I'd guess it's all planned.
DemolitionRed
05-09-2017, 07:29 PM
Of course it is, and I'd expect it'll continue too.
While people are being thrown in prison for putting a few rashers of Bacon on a building and so called hate speech, while at the same time importing terrorism.
People don't feel protected and are gonna start defending themselves.
If I had to make a guess, I'd guess it's all planned.
Protected from what? I don't feel I need to be protected from the far right. I certainly don't feel the far right are protecting me. They are just a bunch of thicko's too dense to understand the connection between mass immigration and the Wests grotesque act of invading other countries claiming those countries as our territory and stealing their resources to keep our emperors and crown.
They are too stupid to understand that the only thing that will stop refugees and stop terrorist acts, is to stop our terrorist acts on them and the only way we can do that is to topple the globalist Masters who create these artificial wars on terror.
The uneducated who walk with the far right are just slaves of the propaganda machine. They are nothing more than a tool, designed to keep our eye off the bigger picture. Sometimes to rule, you have to divide.
Underscore
05-09-2017, 07:30 PM
Lock them up and throw away the key.
JTM45
05-09-2017, 08:33 PM
People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves.
What exactly would you like people to believe British people aren't being ''protected'' from ? :shrug:
How exactly would these people have been ''defending themselves'' ?
When British citizens start excusing domestic terrorists then what hope is there for our Country ?
Just a direct consequence of Islamic terror in the UK, the more Islamic terror the greater risk that people will try to take the law into their own hands from the same socio-demographic and intelligence level
stands to reason, does not make it right but its kind of similar to the UVF/UDA
It's not really because groups like NA are not just against Muslims but also Jews and anybody non-white. And anyway they hate Muslims because of their Nazi ideology not because of Islamic terror. I wouldn't say that neo-Nazism is any bigger today than it was in the 80s either
Oliver_W
05-09-2017, 08:58 PM
I'd be interested to hear what acts of terror they had planned - apparently even vandalism is classed as an act of terror these days... Though as soldiers, I'm sure they're capable of things more damaging.
arista
05-09-2017, 09:02 PM
Yes NA was on Ch4HD News report
tonight.
user104658
05-09-2017, 09:20 PM
Of course it is, and I'd expect it'll continue too.
While people are being thrown in prison for putting a few rashers of Bacon on a building and so called hate speech, while at the same time importing terrorism.
People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves
So you're a terrorist sympathiser, then?
arista
05-09-2017, 09:38 PM
https://d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/YWYhuoDKTwaIdnzc1bAW_metro.JPG
http://news.sky.com/story/alleged-neo-nazis-arrested-over-terror-plot-11021360
So you're a terrorist sympathiser, then?No, just discussing the predicament we find ourselves in. A bit of a far assumption by you there.
Although I should just shut up, shouldn't I?
God save the Queen
JTM45
05-09-2017, 10:09 PM
Lucky it says they're Neo-Nazi's or the local rightie's would be screaming 'ANTIFA'. They'll be so relieved when they see it's some of their own kind.:laugh:
A friendly hidden face and a synchronized Sieg-Heil. It's enough to warm the blackened ashes of Donald Trump's 'heart'.:yuk:
Oliver_W
05-09-2017, 10:14 PM
Lucky it says they're Neo-Nazi's or the local rightie's would be screaming 'ANTIFA'. They'll be so relieved when they see it's some of their own kind.:laugh:
Scum like that have no more in common with the average rightie than Antifa scum do with the average leftie :)
Lucky it says they're Neo-Nazi's or the local rightie's would be screaming 'ANTIFA'. They'll be so relieved when they see it's some of their own kind.:laugh:
A friendly hidden face and a synchronized Sieg-Heil. It's enough to warm the blackened ashes of Donald Trump's 'heart'.:yuk:I thought you were gonna go through a whole post without mentioning Donald Trump there. But right at the end, there it was. Your favourite, you had to get it in.
I'm right aren't I, he's in almost every post you make, even when he isn't involved?
Do you dislike the leader of the free World more than the leader of ISIS? which one of those do you dislike most? It'll be interesting to hear your answer, because I know which one you seem to dislike most.
user104658
05-09-2017, 10:21 PM
No, just discussing the predicament we find ourselves in. A bit of a far assumption by you there.
It's not really any sort of assumption, it's a statement of fact. You are being understanding of their terrorist activities by saying "People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves" and also talking about "their predicament" in an attempt to understand - or sympathise with - domestic terrorism. Now I'm not saying that people SHOULDN'T discuss these things - but I don't imagine you have much time for it when people start talking about the reasons for the rise in international terrorism? You can see why British people would turn to terrorism after being terrorised, but you'd never be understanding of a middle eastern terrorist whose home / country has been destroyed by Western powers :think:.
Although I should just shut up, shouldn't I?
I'd never tell you to do that Alf :hee:
God save the Queen
And all who sail in her http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hello/hats-off-salute-smiley-emoticon.gif
It's not really any sort of assumption, it's a statement of fact. You are being understanding of their terrorist activities by saying "People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves" and also talking about "their predicament" in an attempt to understant - or sympathise with - domestic terrorism. Now I'm not saying that people SHOULDN'T discuss these things - but I don't imagine you have much time for it when people start talking about the reasons for the rise in international terrorism? You can see why British people would turn to terrorism after being terrorised, but you'd never be understanding of a middle eastern terrorist whose home / country has been destroyed by Western powers :think:.
I'd never tell you to do that Alf :hee:
And all who sail in her http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hello/hats-off-salute-smiley-emoticon.gifJust understanding to nature, if you back people into a corner and strip them of their rights, they're gonna come out fighting. Sh1t happens.
I can tell you now for a fact, I'm no sympathiser, I'm not even political. I'm an observer and am only on my own side. And I like winding people up, I think they call it trolling these days, it used to be called interacting,
JTM45
05-09-2017, 10:39 PM
I thought you were gonna go through a whole post without mentioning Donald Trump there. But right at the end, there it was. Your favourite, you had to get it in.
I'm right aren't I, he's in almost every post you make, even when he isn't involved?
Do you dislike the leader of the free World more than the leader of ISIS? which one of those do you dislike most? It'll be interesting to hear your answer, because I know which one you seem to dislike most.
Al-Baghdadi has far less chance of negatively impacting our lives than Drumpf but he'll probably hold his position for longer so all in all they'd probably hold an equal spot on my personal scale of disdain.
Trumpski has never been nor will he ever be the ''leader of the free World''. Nothing is free in Donald's World. He's going to be getting a very large bill from Mr. Mueller soon and i can guarantee he won't be able to pay it. Go straight to jail Don the Con, and take Pence and your foul, corrupt offspring with you. :wavey:
user104658
05-09-2017, 10:40 PM
Just understanding to nature, if you back people into a corner and strip them of their rights, they're gonna come out fighting. Sh1t happens.
Indeed. Hence the existence and rise of ISIS in the first place, I suppose.
I can tell you now for a fact, I'm no sympathiser, I'm not even political. I'm an observer and am only on my own side. And I like winding people up, I think they call it trolling these days, it used to be called interacting,
:nono: You're far too sensitive to be an oldschool troll, Alf.
user104658
05-09-2017, 10:44 PM
Al-Baghdadi has far less chance of negatively impacting our lives than Drumpf but he'll probably hold his position for longer so all in all they'd probably hold an equal spot on my personal scale of disdain.
I'd agree with that to be fair.
As much of a narcissistic sociopath as Trump is, ISIS leaders are more truly hateful by nature, and therefore theoretically more deserving of disdain. On the other hand, Trump has far more power, both political and literal firepower, and therefore is FAR more dangerous than any ISIS leader. So it's a tough call. ISIS leaders are scarier on an individual level, Trump is far scarier in political context.
Say something positive about Trump, when he deserves it, and you wont sound so partisan, and sound more like a free thinker.
He's donating $1 million dollars of his own money to Harvey victims, he didn't have to do that if he didn't want to. Hillary Clinton will probably be profiting from the disaster through her foundation.
Now isn't that a great thing to do? give him some praise for this.
JTM45
05-09-2017, 10:51 PM
Agreed TS. It's one of those 6 of one, half a dozen of the other situations.
Trump's just far less direct and open with his foulness.:laugh:
JTM45
05-09-2017, 10:58 PM
Say something positive about Trump, when he deserves it, and you wont sound so partisan, and sound more like a free thinker.
He's donating $1 million dollars of his own money to Harvey victims, he didn't have to do that if he didn't want to. Hillary Clinton will probably be profiting from the disaster through her foundation.
Now isn't that a great thing to do? give him some praise for this.
Oh thank you for handing me this cherry!:laugh:
Trump 'has said' he'll donate a million dollars to the Harvey victims but still hasn't done so.
When his Press Secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders was asked about why he still hasn't made his reported 'donation' she claimed that he's still having trouble making his supposed million dollar donation to Hurricane Harvey relief because the media hasn’t yet told him which charity to give it to. Really. :facepalm:
Oliver_W
05-09-2017, 10:59 PM
Al-Baghdadi has far less chance of negatively impacting our lives than Drumpf but he'll probably hold his position for longer so all in all they'd probably hold an equal spot on my personal scale of disdain.
Drumpf? Do you refer to Chelsea Manning as Bradley?
JTM45
05-09-2017, 11:01 PM
Drumpf? Do you refer to Chelsea Manning as Bradley?
I don't have a problem with Chelsea Manning. She, unlike Drumpf, is an admirable person. Easy enough for you ?
Why you picking on Chelsea anyway ?
Could this thread go any further off-topic ? (yeah, yeah.........i know i'm as guilty as anyone on that one)
Oliver_W
05-09-2017, 11:05 PM
I don't have a problem with Chelsea Manning. She, unlike Drumpf, is an admirable person. Easy enough for you ?
Why you picking on Chelsea anyway ?
Just a random example of someone else it would be extremely petty to use the wrong name for :)
JTM45
05-09-2017, 11:06 PM
Just a random example of someone else it would be extremely petty to use the wrong name for :)
Trump & Petty go hand in hand.
user104658
05-09-2017, 11:19 PM
Say something positive about Trump, when he deserves it, and you wont sound so partisan, and sound more like a free thinker.
He's donating $1 million dollars of his own money to Harvey victims, he didn't have to do that if he didn't want to. Hillary Clinton will probably be profiting from the disaster through her foundation.
Now isn't that a great thing to do? give him some praise for this.Err but the best you can say is, it's better than nothing? We could all donate a million dollars to charity if we were multi-millionaires... How benevolent it makes him depends entirely on whether or not that is actually a significant amount of money to him. Point me to something genuinely motive less and not self-serving that he has done, if you want him to get praise. This sounds a lot like him trying to "buy good press", in my opinion. I'm very rarely impressed by "money" tbh.
Oh thank you for handing me this cherry!:laugh:
Trump 'has said' he'll donate a million dollars to the Harvey victims but still hasn't done so.
When his Press Secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders was asked about why he still hasn't made his reported 'donation' she claimed that he's still having trouble making his supposed million dollar donation to Hurricane Harvey relief because the media hasn’t yet told him which charity to give it to. Really. :facepalm:There's the thanks he gets.
Still his only crime was running for President. And the political establishment didn't like it, and neither do the political establishment Storm Troopers.
Err but the best you can say is, it's better than nothing? We could all donate a million dollars to charity if we were multi-millionaires... How benevolent it makes him depends entirely on whether or not that is actually a significant amount of money to him. Point me to something genuinely motive less and not self-serving that he has done, if you want him to get praise. This sounds a lot like him trying to "buy good press", in my opinion. I'm very rarely impressed by "money" tbh.More appreciation for a good deed done here.
What has Donald Trump ever done to you? to make you so annoyed that he'd whack in a nice chunk of his money for victims? Why can't you just say "What a nice gesture, he's not so bad after all"
JTM45
05-09-2017, 11:49 PM
Still his only crime was running for President.
Now that's where you're going wrong! :laugh:
This larry's been criming it up as far back as he can remember. You don't get the long established nickname 'Don the Con' in your home state for nothing!:nono:
The guy HAS comitted treason in a massive way against his own Country and he is also guilty of at least one count of obstruction of justice. You not heard about 'Trump University' ? The money laundering ? I could go on but it'll probably just be falling on deaf ears.:shrug:
I don't have a problem with Chelsea Manning. She, unlike Drumpf, is an admirable person. Easy enough for you ?
Why you picking on Chelsea anyway ?
Could this thread go any further off-topic ? (yeah, yeah.........i know i'm as guilty as anyone on that one)This is the sort of quote where problems lie with some.
Discussions do sometimes go off topic, it's not a big deal, you don't need to make a big deal out of the fact that conversations sometimes change course.
This doesn't need to and shouldn't be a dictatorship.
Now that's where you're going wrong! :laugh:
This larry's been criming it up as far back as he can remember. You don't get the long established nickname 'Don the Con' in your home state for nothing!:nono:
The guy HAS comitted treason in a massive way against his own Country and he is also guilty of at least one count of obstruction of justice. You not heard about 'Trump University' ? The money laundering ? I could go on but it'll probably just be falling on deaf ears.:shrug:Do go on, I'm a good listener. I like to be educated.
JTM45
05-09-2017, 11:53 PM
This is the sort of quote where problems lie with some.
Discussions do sometimes go off topic, it's not a big deal, you don't need to make a big deal out of the fact that conversations sometimes change course.
This doesn't need to and shouldn't be a dictatorship.
Believe me (the evidence will show) i don't have a problem with going off-topic but it seems to be heavily scorned in some forums. Just covering my ass. :laugh:
JTM45
05-09-2017, 11:57 PM
Check this place out for all the latest low-down on Trump dirt Alf. The guy (Palmer) has been the initial source of some of the biggest Trump stories that were later jumped on by the mainstream press. He's a tru American Patriot, loves his Country and hates Trump.
http://www.palmerreport.com/
Look at all the lefties they have these men tried and convicted already without a trial or any evidence being given out..all we have is the arrests but the over eager lefties have already labelled them terrorists and people as terrorist sympathisers.....they hate nazis but by god they dont half act luke them at times...shameful, it really is.
user104658
06-09-2017, 06:52 AM
More appreciation for a good deed done here.
What has Donald Trump ever done to you? to make you so annoyed that he'd whack in a nice chunk of his money for victims? Why can't you just say "What a nice gesture, he's not so bad after all"What has Donald Trump ever done to me? ... He's helped to bring the world closer to Nuclear catastrophe than it has been since the opening days of the Cold War, in less than 9 months in power. And then he's tried to turn people's heads away from that utterly terrifying fact by donating - sorry, pledging to donate - a bit of his pocket money to charity.
Why can't I say "oh he's not so bad after all"? Because I'm not stupid or gullible, I suppose.
user104658
06-09-2017, 06:55 AM
Look at all the lefties they have these men tried and convicted already without a trial or any evidence being given out..all we have is the arrests but the over eager lefties have already labelled them terrorists and people as terrorist sympathisers.....they hate nazis but by god they dont half act luke them at times...shameful, it really is.Yes Parm, I remember you staunchly defending the accused in all of the other recent Islamic terrorism threads. A paragon of justice, you have been. :joker:
Yes Parm, I remember you staunchly defending the accused in all of the other recent Islamic terrorism threads. A paragon of justice, you have been. :joker:
You need to quote me on that if you are accusing me...i have duscussed issues but dont recall accusing anyone that has not been convicted of a crime, of doing that crime.
I expect the usual witty and insultingly accusatory reply containing the latest excuse for not prividing the quotes when you cant find them..dont let me down auld yin.
Northern Monkey
06-09-2017, 07:13 AM
This seems like a particularly nasty group.They endorsed the murder of Jo Cox.They have no place on our streets.They go around throwing Nazi salutes and are descriminatory against anyone who's not straight,white and British.You'd think that people who served our country would know better than to support or be involved in a pro Nazi group.A very un British and un patriotic act.What makes these feckers dangerous too is that they have military training on top of a fecked up ideology.
user104658
06-09-2017, 07:13 AM
You need to quote me on that if you are accusing me...i have duscussed issues but dont recall accusing anyone that has not been convicted of a crime, of doing that crime.
I expect the usual witty and insultingly accusatory reply containing the latest excuse for not prividing the quotes when you cant find them..dont let me down auld yin.Brace yourself;
I thought it was fairly evident that I was being sarcastic; the point is that you would NEVER defend a Muslim Terrorist but, without hesitation, you're charging in on your trusty steed ready to defend flag waving neo-nazis.
So no, I can't quote what doesn't exist. The whole point was that you DON'T post to defend "those" terrorists :facepalm:. Only the nice Bwitish Tewwowists who are only planning to kill dirty Muslims to defend their homes and Families by gum.
jennyjuniper
06-09-2017, 07:26 AM
Just a direct consequence of Islamic terror in the UK, the more Islamic terror the greater risk that people will try to take the law into their own hands from the same socio-demographic and intelligence level
stands to reason, does not make it right but its kind of similar to the UVF/UDA
I agree with this. AsLT says, it doesn't make it right, but when the police and government fail to crack down on radical mosques and imams, then the unequality of it all, will drive some people to take matters into their own hands.
Oliver_W
06-09-2017, 08:49 AM
I'm still not sure what they were actually planning? It sounds like their only crime was being involved with National Action, which should absolutely get them the book thrown at them, but there's a difference between "planning terror attacks" and "being involved with an awful group"
I don't think we ever get to hear the details until the trial with charges like this, I'm sure we'll find out in due course
Crimson Dynamo
06-09-2017, 09:56 AM
Lock them up and throw away the key.
Before evidence is heard and they are put to trial?
How very National Socialist of you
:rolleyes:
Denver
06-09-2017, 10:05 AM
Before evidence is heard and they are put to trial?
How very National Socialist of you
:rolleyes:
Im sure you said the same about Islamic terrorists though
Crimson Dynamo
06-09-2017, 10:09 AM
Im sure you said the same about Islamic terrorists though
Not the type of thing I would say but I hope you are not comparing men arrested under suspicion to captured or dead terrorists apprehended during an actual act of terrorism?
Tom4784
06-09-2017, 12:02 PM
White people don't get arrested on Terrorism charges for nothing especially soldiers. The courts will see this evidence and come up with the right conviction.
White people don't get arrested on Terrorism charges for nothing especially soldiers. The courts will see this evidence and come up with the right conviction.Oh dear, the bigots are out to play.
Northern Monkey
06-09-2017, 04:03 PM
people don't get arrested on Terrorism charges for nothing especially soldiers. The courts will see this evidence and come up with the right conviction.
Fixed
White people don't get arrested on Terrorism charges for nothing especially soldiers. The courts will see this evidence and come up with the right conviction.Why do people of colour want to come to live in our White supremacist country Dezzy? Our horrid bigoted country.
If only they'd listened to you, you could have told them exactly what White people are, and then they may not of all come over, and be subjected to the White people (aka racists).
Crimson Dynamo
06-09-2017, 04:25 PM
I don't think anyone gets arrested on terrorism charges for... nothing
It's not Russia
user104658
06-09-2017, 05:01 PM
Why do people of colour want to come to live in our White supremacist country Dezzy? Our horrid bigoted country.
If only they'd listened to you, you could have told them exactly what White people are, and then they may not of all come over, and be subjected to the White people (aka racists).
:nono: As we can see from this forum, the majority of British people are very accepting. It's only a sad minority percentage who are still small-minded and xenophobic. :hee:.
:nono: As we can see from this forum, the majority of British people are very accepting. It's only a sad minority percentage who are still small-minded and xenophobic. :hee:.You're one of the xenophobic ones right? I mean you hate what the Queen stands for, and she stands for Britain. So that means you hate the country of Britain, which makes you xenophobic, right?
user104658
06-09-2017, 05:55 PM
You're one of the xenophobic ones right? I mean you hate what the Queen stands for, and she stands for Britain. So that means you hate the country of Britain, which makes you xenophobic, right?
No. I don't think you understand the meaning of xenophobic :think:. Or what the Queen stands for :think:.
The Queen stands for Monarchy, so I guess you could accuse me of Tyrannophobia, which is "a fear of monarchy". I mean, I'm not afraid of them, but it's closer to the mark than xenophobia, which would have absolutely nothing at all to do with the Queen or monarchy. Of course even if the queen DID stand for Britain, a dislike of the Queen and Royalty - even a dislike of Britain itself - would have no relation to Xenophobia. Which - just to clarify for you Alf, as you appear to be struggling - specifically means "dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries".
No. I don't think you understand the meaning of xenophobic :think:. Or what the Queen stands for :think:.
The Queen stands for Monarchy, so I guess you could accuse me of Tyrannophobia, which is "a fear of monarchy". I mean, I'm not afraid of them, but it's closer to the mark than xenophobia, which would have absolutely nothing at all to do with the Queen or monarchy. Of course even if the queen DID stand for Britain, a dislike of the Queen and Royalty - even a dislike of Britain itself - would have no relation to Xenophobia. Which - just to clarify for you Alf, as you appear to be struggling - specifically means "dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries".You just had to say, "no! I'm not" I'd have accepted that as an answer.
Not you then, just other people?
user104658
06-09-2017, 07:11 PM
You just had to say, "no! I'm not" I'd have accepted that as an answer. Yes but then you would have ploughed on through life in ignorance, completely misunderstanding the meaning of the word "xenophobia".
Not you then, just other people?
People who are prejudiced against or dislike people from other countries, as per the definition Alf. Do we really have to go over it again? You could just reread the last post...
Tom4784
06-09-2017, 09:02 PM
Oh dear, the bigots are out to play.
You really struggle with the definition of words, huh?
Tom4784
06-09-2017, 09:04 PM
Why do people of colour want to come to live in our White supremacist country Dezzy? Our horrid bigoted country.
If only they'd listened to you, you could have told them exactly what White people are, and then they may not of all come over, and be subjected to the White people (aka racists).
You should try responding to what posts actually say instead of responding to what you want them to have said.
Yes but then you would have ploughed on through life in ignorance, completely misunderstanding the meaning of the word "xenophobia".
People who are prejudiced against or dislike people from other countries, as per the definition Alf. Do we really have to go over it again? You could just reread the last post...You hate what my country stands for. And technically I'm from a different country than you. Me England you Scotland. So you can see why people would think you're a xenophobe.
user104658
07-09-2017, 05:07 PM
You hate what my country stands for. And technically I'm from a different country than you. Me England you Scotland. So you can see why people would think you're a xenophobe.
Your country stands for The Monarchy? :think: I would imagine there are a lot of English people who would disagree with you. You mean that I hate what you, personally stand for but I'm afraid that I simply don't accept that you are a representative example of the average English citizen, Alf. 40 or 50 years ago, maybe. Not in 2017.
Your country stands for The Monarchy? :think: I would imagine there are a lot of English people who would disagree with you. You mean that I hate what you, personally stand for but I'm afraid that I simply don't accept that you are a representative example of the average English citizen, Alf. 40 or 50 years ago, maybe. Not in 2017.The Monarch is the country. When you bad mouth the Monarch, you bad mouth the country.
If you got rid of the Monarch, then all what is hers and ours goes into politicians hands.
Money
Armed forces
Police
Courts
Parliament
ect
Defend your Monarch, and have a feeling of safety in your life. The Monarch is your biggest protection in life, it keeps you from the dictators. Although they're trying to get rid, but need the people to all turn on the Monarch. So don't do it.
user104658
07-09-2017, 05:58 PM
The Monarch is the country. When you bad mouth the Monarch, you bad mouth the country.
If you got rid of the Monarch, then all what is hers and ours goes into politicians hands.
Money
Armed forces
Police
Courts
Parliament
ect
Defend your Monarch, and have a feeling of safety in your life. The Monarch is your biggest protection in life, it keeps you from the dictators. Although they're trying to get rid, but need the people to all turn on the Monarch. So don't do it.Oh my. I don't even know where to start. Actually... I'm just not going to.
Oh my. I don't even know where to start. Actually... I'm just not going to.Good.
And yes! I've got the last word in.:cheer2:
Oliver_W
07-09-2017, 06:19 PM
No offense to anyone here but only a fool takes up a fool's argument.
It’s not an accident that most of the longest-lasting free, law-governed countries in the world are constitutional monarchies.
By having a non-political monarch we can respect, we are freed to be properly disrespectful towards politicians, while remaining loyal to our country. Without a monarch, loyalty can demand political submission.
The British monarch is like the king on a chessboard. He cannot attack. But by occupying his square he prevents others from doing so.
DemolitionRed
07-09-2017, 07:37 PM
I think the immediate royal family is good for the country but inherited power is not meritocratic so hereditary peerages to anyone other than the immediate royal family needs to die off. Rich people rewarding their privileged offspring with titles is a nonsense.
Brillopad
09-09-2017, 01:56 PM
Right-Wing Nazi terrorist SCUM!!!!
This is what all the ignorance-driven BS results in. Just hope this isn't just the tip of the scumberg.
I think ISIS more than tip the scumberg category.
JTM45
09-09-2017, 04:53 PM
I think ISIS more than tip the scumberg category.
What's that got to do with the subject of this thread ? Oh yeah..........NOTHING, but you struggle to post without somehow mentioning ''the evil Muslims''. :sleep:
And apart from being nothing to do with the subject of the thread your 'comment' doesn't even make sense.
Brillopad
09-09-2017, 05:19 PM
:hehe:What's that got to do with the subject of this thread ? Oh yeah..........NOTHING, but you struggle to post without somehow mentioning ''the evil Muslims''.
.
Don't you think ISIS are evil scumbags then?
JTM45
09-09-2017, 06:11 PM
:hehe:
Don't you think ISIS are evil scumbags then?
This thread has absolutely nothing to do with ISIS yet you just string a jumble of words together and stick ISIS in the middle of it. You're obsessed.
Brillopad
09-09-2017, 06:20 PM
This thread has absolutely nothing to do with ISIS yet you just string a jumble of words together and stick ISIS in the middle of it. You're obsessed.
You don't think ISIS have anything to do with terrorism. How bizarre!
Oliver_W
09-09-2017, 06:22 PM
There's no question that ISIS are terrorist scum, but the guys mentioned in the OP possibly are too, and this thread is about them.
JTM45
09-09-2017, 06:25 PM
There's no question that ISIS are terrorist scum, but the guys mentioned in the OP possibly are too, and this thread is about them.
Wow!!!
Something we finally agree upon. :laugh:
Oliver_W
09-09-2017, 06:33 PM
Wow!!!
Something we finally agree upon. :laugh:
:dance::dance::dance:
jaxie
09-09-2017, 08:28 PM
What has Donald Trump ever done to me? ... He's helped to bring the world closer to Nuclear catastrophe than it has been since the opening days of the Cold War, in less than 9 months in power. And then he's tried to turn people's heads away from that utterly terrifying fact by donating - sorry, pledging to donate - a bit of his pocket money to charity.
Why can't I say "oh he's not so bad after all"? Because I'm not stupid or gullible, I suppose.
But itt isn't actually Trump firing rockets over Japan and telling another country he's going to shoot at their populated island. You are actually blaming Trump for not appeasing the one firing the rockets. It's a bit bizarre. :shrug:
user104658
09-09-2017, 08:43 PM
But itt isn't actually Trump firing rockets over Japan and telling another country he's going to shoot at their populated island. You are actually blaming Trump for not appeasing the one firing the rockets. It's a bit bizarre. :shrug:
Obviously Kim Jong is a madman and a dictator, just as his father was before him, but that's sort of a moot point? North Korea doesn't have the firepower to destroy the world; the United States does. The NK situation has been volatile for decades, it needs to be handled with care and skillful diplomacy. Trump kicks hornets nests because he feels like it.
Plus, it's not just about the NK situation... Trump is well on his way - in under a year - to creating a tense and unstable global political environment that puts every person on the planet at risk. It's like Spider-man, Jaxie. With great power comes great responsibility. Currently the most powerful man in the world is an irresponsible one.
If a careless man drops a box full of dynamite and blows a load of people up... should you blame the idiot who was carrying the box? Of course you do. Although, maybe you should blame the people who gave him the box in the first place :think:
Brillopad
10-09-2017, 08:08 AM
Obviously Kim Jong is a madman and a dictator, just as his father was before him, but that's sort of a moot point? North Korea doesn't have the firepower to destroy the world; the United States does. The NK situation has been volatile for decades, it needs to be handled with care and skillful diplomacy. Trump kicks hornets nests because he feels like it.
Plus, it's not just about the NK situation... Trump is well on his way - in under a year - to creating a tense and unstable global political environment that puts every person on the planet at risk. It's like Spider-man, Jaxie. With great power comes great responsibility. Currently the most powerful man in the world is an irresponsible one.
If a careless man drops a box full of dynamite and blows a load of people up... should you blame the idiot who was carrying the box? Of course you do. Although, maybe you should blame the people who gave him the box in the first place :think:
Whilst I agree with most of that I feel that a lot of blame lies with an inadequate political system, as well as voters on both sides, for such a poor choice in candidates. There was no choice for many - Trump appeared the lesser of the two evils.
People keep voting in dishonest, power-driven and often corrupt politicians, always sticking to the two main parties. Where is there ever a true choice in America or here. Just the same old power-driven types heading up the polls decade after decade.
Brillopad
10-09-2017, 05:57 PM
Right-Wing Nazi terrorist SCUM!!!!
This is what all the ignorance-driven BS results in. Just hope this isn't just the tip of the scumberg.
Actually two of them have been released without charge so far. Rash judgements made just based on arrests alone are pointless.
Brother Leon
10-09-2017, 06:58 PM
Just a direct consequence of Islamic terror in the UK, the more Islamic terror the greater risk that people will try to take the law into their own hands from the same socio-demographic and intelligence level
stands to reason, does not make it right but its kind of similar to the UVF/UDA
It's terrorism. Stop trying to excuse it with bull****. It's like excusing Jihadists by saying that they turned this way due to Western interference in their nations.
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