Diane Abbot says "***** bitch" LIVE on GMB

[Wizard.]

Horrible woman

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4883306/Diane-Abbott-says-n-b-live-GMB.html?ito=social-facebook

[Oliver_W]

Poor GMB viewers. Imagine seeing that in your mentions on twitter every time you logo on.


Yes, she's a horrible woman and shouldn't be anywhere near the frontbench or represent Labour in the media, but that doesn't excuse the online abuse she receives.

[user104658]

"Riley. says "***** bitch" LIVE on TiBB"

Horrible.

[Denver]

How is ***** not censored? :umm2:

[Wizard.]

Poor GMB viewers. Imagine seeing that in your mentions on twitter every time you logo on.


Yes, she's a horrible woman and shouldn't be anywhere near the frontbench or represent Labour in the media, but that doesn't excuse the online abuse she receives.

And? She could have simply said that she receives bad abuse online, I thought politicians are meant to be careful with their words?

[Wizard.]

How is ***** not censored? :umm2:

They did bleep it, but why would she say it? Very bizarre, think she's truly lost her marbles.

[user104658]

They did bleep it, but why would she say it? Very bizarre, think she's truly lost her marbles.

Why did you put it in the thread title here? Have you lost your marbles? :think:

[Kizzy]

Well how ironic, we were just discussing on another thread how reportage can't be given a 'slant' and this is an excellent example.

Ignore the abuse she has suffered and focus on the fact she repeated a word on breakfast telly....pffft!

[Wizard.]

Why did you put it in the thread title here? Have you lost your marbles? :think:

I'm not a politician on live television for one, although I'm sure if it were a Conservative MP there would be outrage calling them "far right racists".

[Wizard.]

Well how ironic, we were just discussing on another thread how reportage can't be given a 'slant' and this is an excellent example.

Ignore the abuse she has suffered and focus on the fact she repeated a word on breakfast telly....pffft!

That's not the point, if she wants to discuss what's being said to her so blatantly then she should go on Channel 5's Celebrity Troll Hunting with Frankie Bridge.

[Oliver_W]

And? She could have simply said that she receives bad abuse online, I thought politicians are meant to be careful with their words?

She's an awful politician, so whatever.

[user104658]

Sigh. She was reporting some of the language used against her, not using the language against anyone else. There's a difference. The fact that so many people don't seem to realise that there's a difference, is a problem.

Fair enough she should possibly have considered the time of day it would be broadcast, but that's about all. Also, lets be honest, the idea that there are "children watching GMB" is a bit of a ****ing stretch isn't it.

[smudgie]

It's no secret that I can't be doing with Diane Abbot, but in this case I can't see a problem with what she said, in the context that she said it.
If people are so offended by simply hearing what she said that she has to put up with then maybe they should take a moment to think of how upsetting it must be to have this insulting racist language personally directed at you.
As to GMB and the way they handled it, all I can say is don't try and have a serious interview with anybody that can't give a full and honest description of what is happening to them.:shrug:

[Withano]

I don't understand? Was it also bleeped out in the original broadcast?
I don't see the problem at all. Super snowflakey reaction.

[Kizzy]

That's not the point, if she wants to discuss what's being said to her so blatantly then she should go on Channel 5's Celebrity Troll Hunting with Frankie Bridge.

Then what is the point, what is the point of being on the programme to discuss abuse if you are not permitted to state how far the abuse goes?

Why have her on pre watershed? What did they think an interview in relation to online abuse was going to consist of in all seriousness?
Maybe have an important and sensitive subject discussed when it can be addressed adequately.

It literally makes me sick the way that this level of abuse is sidelined simply because they have a dislike for Diane Abbot,should it be any other black celebrity or publicly recognisable figure and there would be uproar at this level of abuse.

I say good on her! I hope now it is looked at more seriousness, nobody should have to tolerate that or be expected to. Look what happened to Jo Cox, every day she is living with a level of anxiety knowing and being told she will be the target of attacks in which her life is at risk... And yet she can't express what makes her so fearful?

I would go as far as to say that the slant in the way this has been addressed in the mail is abuse in itself as it totally ignores the key issue.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I doubt she knew where she was tbh

[Amy Jade]

I like her she was only saying it because it's what she had been called. Instead of attacking her call out the bastards who say it to her imo

[Nicky91]

good for her just saying these things, instead of being very fake acting to come over nice :hee:

[Wizard.]

Also she does realise that this is what the trolls want? She's probably going to get loads more of these tweets now that people are seeing she's saying this stuff on TV, especially people that want to sabotage her career. Watch her abuse grow 10 fold now, not that she deserves that, she doesn't, however adding fuel to the fire is her own fault.

[Beso]

She is a bitch though.

[Beso]

Surprised she has the time for twitter..ahould she not be working instead.

[MB.]

Well how ironic, we were just discussing on another thread how reportage can't be given a 'slant' and this is an excellent example.

Ignore the abuse she has suffered and focus on the fact she repeated a word on breakfast telly....pffft!

.

[Crimson Dynamo]

she started the rot by sending her son to a £10,000 pa public school ( so he wouldn't end up in a gang :rolleyes:)

[Kizzy]

she started the rot by sending her son to a £10,000 pa public school ( so he wouldn't end up in a gang :rolleyes:)

So she deserves this abuse?

[DemolitionRed]

she started the rot by sending her son to a £10,000 pa public school ( so he wouldn't end up in a gang :rolleyes:)

£10k a year is peanuts for a public school. It must be a part subsidized school or she'd be paying double that.

[Wizard.]

I don't even think calling someone a bitch is that bad :shrug: I mean the N word is unacceptable but all public figures are targets of abuse, I feel like she pulls the victim card so much. Nobody else is complaining.

[Kizzy]

I don't even think calling someone a bitch is that bad :shrug: I mean the N word is unacceptable but all public figures are targets of abuse, I feel like she pulls the victim card so much. Nobody else is complaining.

You are coming across as really ignorant, educate yourself.

A specialist police team set up to investigate crimes against MPs has dealt with 102 complaints in its first year of operation.

The Metropolitan police’s parliamentary liaison and investigations team, set up in August 2016 after the murder of the Labour MP Jo Cox, has dealt with 71 complaints of “malicious communication”, which includes abusive messages or letters, 15 thefts and seven allegations of criminal damage.

There were five reports of harassment and four of racially aggravated harassment between August 2016 and 20 July 2017.

The figures were met with concern from MPs, many of whom have spoken out about abuse in recent months.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/14/team-investigating-anti-mp-crime-deals-with-102-complaints-in-first-year

[jaxie]

How is ***** not censored? :umm2:

It's a slang misspelling.

[Wizard.]

^^ Fair enough if it's threatening violence, why isn't she talking about that? To highlight the comment '***** bitch' is what I don't understand.

[MB.]

^^ Fair enough if it's threatening violence, why isn't she talking about that? To highlight the comment '***** bitch' is what I don't understand.

Re-read the part about racially-aggravated harassment

[MB.]

(also "bitch" is one of the most casually misogynistic terms out there and it doesn't surprise me at all that you don't see a problem with using it)

[Crimson Dynamo]

£10k a year is peanuts for a public school. It must be a part subsidized school or she'd be paying double that.

that was the fee at the time so I would imagine is is much more now?

[DemolitionRed]

I don't like Abbot on a personal level. The company I used to work for had a lot of dealings with her and she's really not a nice force to reckon with. She had, at least back then, a reputation for being tough and ruthless, so when the media and popular opinion broke her, there was nobody more surprised than me. If someone can break this tough cookie, they can break anyone.

My personal dislike for her is by the by. Diana Abbot has got some pretty hefty achievements behind her. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Abbott

[Wizard.]

Re-read the part about racially-aggravated harassment
No thanks.
(also "bitch" is one of the most casually misogynistic terms out there and it doesn't surprise me at all that you don't see a problem with using it)

I use it, woman I know use it, everyone uses it. So frankly I don't feel guilty. Have you ever used it in your life? Most definitely.

[Rob!]

Surprised she has the time for twitter..ahould she not be working instead.

Tell that to the president of the United States

[Gusto Brunt]

How is ***** not censored? :umm2:

Because she said it and she's black, I guess.

[Tom4784]

The fact that people are more outraged by her saying it then the fact that it's something that's thrown in her face every day is both depressing and unsurprising.

[Shaun]

a little bit bemused by this forum censoring the acronym s t f u but not this racial slur :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that people are more outraged by her saying it then the fact that it's something that's thrown in her face every day is both depressing and unsurprising.

we only have anecdotal evidence that she was called it even once and lets face it she is hardly a very truthful person now is she?

[Tom4784]

we only have anecdotal evidence that she was called it even once and lets face it she is hardly a very truthful person now is she?

Except that it's not 'cus Twitter is a thing?

[Vicky.]

a little bit bemused by this forum censoring the acronym s t f u but not this racial slur :joker:

Yeah, will mention this to james. It is censored with 'ER' on the end instead of A. Probably something thats just slipped through the net D:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Except that it's not 'cus Twitter is a thing?

perhaps she can publish the evidence to back up her claim then and this will allow the police to prosecute the person who posted it?

[RileyH]

idkha

[Alf]

It's only a word. It can do absolutely no harm whatsoever. It only offends people who want to be offended.

Grownups should be able to listen to any word that's ever been invented.

They don't make grownups like they used to.


However, this word is illegal, if I said it, I'd be arrested. So I expect she'll be arrested too, right?

[Crimson Dynamo]

a girl was ejected from BB for saying it

[Ashley.]

I don't even think calling someone a bitch is that bad :shrug: I mean the N word is unacceptable but all public figures are targets of abuse, I feel like she pulls the victim card so much. Nobody else is complaining.

Just because nobody else is complaining, doesn't mean she can't. Likewise, just because she is complaining, doesn't mean she's pulling the victim card. Let her defend herself rather than jumping on this "sit down and shut up" attitude. And I despise the word "bitch". It's demeaning.

And like Dezzy said, you can't show disgust at her use of the term and then let slide those who have used the term against her.

[Jack_]

She's a black woman describing the racist abuse she's been subjected to, she has every right to say it

[Wizard.]

She's a black woman describing the racist abuse she's been subjected to, she has every right to say it

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Amy Jade]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

She's not calling anyone else it though to be derogatory she's describing what she has to deal with on (probably) a daily basis.

[Alf]

She's not calling anyone else it though to be derogatory she's describing what she has to deal with on (probably) a daily basis.We all have to deal with things on a daily basis, it's called life. Only some want us all to feel sorry for them and give them sympathy, and some just get on with it.

[DemolitionRed]

It's only a word. It can do absolutely no harm whatsoever. It only offends people who want to be offended.

Grownups should be able to listen to any word that's ever been invented.

They don't make grownups like they used to.


However, this word is illegal, if I said it, I'd be arrested. So I expect she'll be arrested too, right?

Oh but it can. Verbal bullying is a very real thing and is known to cause more long term harm than physical bullying. When someone is called a name, especially if they are called names repeatedly, it can affect that persons identity, impact their mood and even affect their mental and physical health.

[Amy Jade]

We all have to deal with things on a daily basis, it's called life. Only some want us all to feel sorry for them and give them sympathy, and some just get on with it.

I don't believe anyone should have to face being called horrible names on a daily basis.

[Jack_]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

But it's not a wrong? She was reciting the kind of racial terminology that is used to abuse her, in the same way that Big Brother does verbatim when they're quoting an inappropriate remark back to the housemate they're punishing for saying it. Context is important and she, as a black woman, is well within her rights to repeat it.

[Headie]

I can't @ the DailyMail article making out like she's some racist psycho when all she did was literally repeat the words used by the racists psychos targeting her.

[Kizzy]

We all have to deal with things on a daily basis, it's called life. Only some want us all to feel sorry for them and give them sympathy, and some just get on with it.

Do you get death threats on a daily basis?.. I don't and I don't know anyone who does.

[Kizzy]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

In my view she wasn't wrong, she was invited to discuss this issue, that's what she did.

If some 'snowflakes' can't handle the language she has to tolerate on the daily then they should stick to the shopping channel or something, GMB is clearly too much for them.

[Wizard.]

She's not calling anyone else it though to be derogatory she's describing what she has to deal with on (probably) a daily basis.

I know, but say if I was an MP and was recieving abuse I wouldn't say the words "fuqing queer fagg" on TV you know there's better ways to get around these things. Although I'm the type of person who doesn't care about abuse and wouldn't go on about it because as long as it's not threatening and I don't need to inform the police (which she should be doing) then frankly I can move on from it.

[Wizard.]

In my view she wasn't wrong, she was invited to discuss this issue, that's what she did.

If some 'snowflakes' can't handle the language she has to tolerate on the daily then they should stick to the shopping channel or something, GMB is clearly too much for them.

No it's quite the opposite, I'm not opposed to the words themselves, moreso the fact that she repeated them. The N word is horrible anyway and I think there needs to be real discussion surrounding the use of the word because frankly I think NOBODY should use it because it becomes a problem when it starts to become a word that only one group of ethnicity can say.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Do you get death threats on a daily basis?.. I don't and I don't know anyone who does.

id imagine most public divisive figures do

its common

[Crimson Dynamo]

i bet peter andre even gets them

[jaxie]

Do you get death threats on a daily basis?.. I don't and I don't know anyone who does.

Tbf You probably aren't choosing to live your life in the public eye either.

[jaxie]

I don't like Diane Abbot and think she is a hypocrite but the news here seems to be more a case of taking what she said out of context than anything else.

[Vicky.]

Yeah there is obviously a bloody huge difference between her repeating the kind of abuse she gets to let people know about it, and her using those terms TO someone.

However, a filter is kind of needed with this woman :laugh: She doesn't seem to have one. Early morning TV is hardly the time or place to be saying things like this. Could very easily say 'racist and sexist abuse' without repeating the exact terms...

[Brother Leon]

We all have to deal with things on a daily basis, it's called life. Only some want us all to feel sorry for them and give them sympathy, and some just get on with it.

You should try being black and called a ***** every day then..


Anyway, I'm glad she didn't censor it. If people sat in their homes are uncomfortable with it then at least it has let them know what Black people in the public eye put up with at times.

[Beso]

Tell that to the president of the United States

Why would i care or worry about another countries leaders?

[Beso]

You should try being black and called a ***** every day then..


Anyway, I'm glad she didn't censor it. If people sat in their homes are uncomfortable with it then at least it has let them know what Black people in the public eye put up with at times.

Oh come on that just doesnt happen anymore...we all know the muslims are the new black.:hee:

[Northern Monkey]

I don't like Abbott but I don't much like censorship either.I think this is a storm in a teacup.Someone said "****" on The Wright Stuff the other day but I didn't see that all over the news.
Whatever we think of Diane Abbott she doesn't deserve to be racially abused.Nobody does.

[Ashley.]

Oh come on that just doesnt happen anymore...we all know the muslims are the new black.:hee:

What's that supposed to mean?

[Jake.]

the right-white send her this bargage of abuse and act offended when she relays what's been thrown at her, go figure

good on her for tackling it head on, people should be ashamed of themselves

[GiRTh]

Typical reaction on here. Dont focus on what happened just find a way to criticise her .:bored:

[Denver]

It's only a word. It can do absolutely no harm whatsoever. It only offends people who want to be offended.

Grownups should be able to listen to any word that's ever been invented.

They don't make grownups like they used to.


However, this word is illegal, if I said it, I'd be arrested. So I expect she'll be arrested too, right?

This post has racial undertones :umm2:


The reason why black people are so offended by white people using it is because its what they have been called when they have been slaves and fighting for equal rights.

White people have no rights to this word and are not allowed to use it and anyone that does use it well they are clearly racist

[Loukas]

I don't know if it's more amusing or sad that some people on here are totally blinded by their white privilege!

[arista]

Typical reaction on here. Dont focus on what happened just find a way to criticise her .:bored:

Bang On Right Girth

[Northern Monkey]

I don't know if it's more amusing or sad that some people on here are totally blinded by their white privilege!

I'm against racism as much as anybody but this millenial SJW concept of 'white privilege' is bs.
Specially when some of the richest people in the world are black.

The problem with this hard left concept is that they want equality of outcome over equality of opportunity.
It's an excuse to place responsibility for their own bad life choices on the entire white race.It is a racist concept.The millions of white homeless people would be offended by such a suggestion.
There is definitely class inequality but that's a different subject.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Typical reaction on here. Dont focus on what happened just find a way to criticise her .:bored:

sure

and if i posted a similar thread about Nigel Farage we would not get 3 pages of personal abuse about Nigel?

:joker:

[GiRTh]

sure

and if i posted a similar thread about Nigel Farage we would not get 3 pages of personal abuse about Nigel?

:joker:Probably. And he should not have to take such abuse too so whats your point?

You bought up her sending her son to a private a school. How is that relevant to this abuse she is getting?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Probably. And he should not have to take such abuse too so whats your point?

You bought up her sending her son to a private a school. How is that relevant to this abuse she is getting?

I guess some people do not like hypocrites

[GiRTh]

I guess some people do not like hypocritesWell then call her a hypocrite for that. For the record, I think shes a huge problem and should be banished to the back benchers but surely we can agree she doesnt deserve this abuse.:shrug:

[Kizzy]

I guess some people do not like hypocrites

I don't, you know what's worse? Hypotheticals...They are totally pointless.