UEFA Nations League coming for season 2018-2019

[Calderyon]

http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/what-is-the-uefa-nations-league-europe-plan-transform/jd6gey2do4y31udm7plqljcdr

[Shaun]

Sounds complicated af and going to further ruin the match fitness of international players.

[Nicky91]

huh isn't that similar to a European championship :hehe:

[Calderyon]

Sounds complicated af and going to further ruin the match fitness of international players.

I think many nations will send second, third or even fourth rate players to this and save the stars for more important competitions.

[Alf]

We should never have got rid of the Home nations championships, which were a successful tournament for a hundred years (barring the two wars and one year for civil unrest in Northern Ireland) between England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

[bots]

who on earth thought that lot up, it's a contrived mess. If it also means an end to friendlies in the proper sense, it removes the possibility of playing South American opposition other than in a competitive finals, or that's how it seems, but who knows with this shower of ****

[James]

^ I think they said before there's still going to be time for friendlies with, for example, South American teams.

In general I like the Nations League idea because I think friendly football matches are pointless.

There's a slightly weird twist though where one team from each of the four leagues will qualify for Euro 2020, which could result in a minnow team qualifying, or a team (maybe) trying to get relegated to a lower league to make qualification for the next Euros easier.

[James]

We should never have got rid of the Home nations championships, which were a successful tournament for a hundred years (barring the two wars and one year for civil unrest in Northern Ireland) between England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

They tried bringing a version of that back with the Nations Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_Cup_(football)) in 2011 - England didn't take part, but it wasn't very interesting.

[James]

The leagues and groups will be drawn from this.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLzef2dUQAA5RYY.jpg

[James]

Wales beat Republic of Ireland 4-1.


Nations League: Wales beat Republic of Ireland 4-1 in Ryan Giggs' first home game

Wales produced an exhibition of sparkling attacking football as they thrashed the Republic of Ireland in their Nations League opener to give manager Ryan Giggs a handsome victory in his first competitive match in charge.....


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45351104

Scores -

Group A1

Germany 0
France 0

Group C3

Norway 2
Cyprus 0

Slovenia 1
Bulgaria 2

Group D1

Kazakhstan 0
Georgia 2

Latvia 0
Andorra 0

Group D4

Armenia 2
Liechtenstein 1

Gibraltar 0
FYR Macedonia 2

Group B1

Czech Republic 1
Ukraine 2

Group B4

Wales 4
Republic of Ireland 1

[James]

The groups.

https://www.online-betting.me.uk/images/infographics/uefa-nations-league-2018.jpg

[Mystic Mock]

I like the idea as it stops so many pointless friendly matches, and also makes the players get used to playing with each other more rather than having to quickly gel during a major knockout tournament when you've not played with each other before or on a regular basis.

[Nicky91]

another competition and another way for Uefa to make money :idc: better not call up our best players i think, to avoid risking any major injuries

[James]

Yesterday.

Group C4
Lithuania 0
Serbia 1

Romania 0
Montenegro 0

Group D3
Azerbaijan 0
Kosovo 0

Faroe Islands 3
Malta 1

Group A3
Italy 1
Poland 1

Group B2
Turkey 1
Russia 2

Group C1
Albania 1
Israel 0

Today.

Group C2
Finland 1
Hungary 0

Estonia 0
Greece 1

Group D2
Belarus 5
San Marino 0

Luxembourg 4
Moldova 0

Group A2
Switzerland 6
Iceland 0

Group A4
England 1
Spain 2

Group B3
Northern Ireland 1
Bosnia-Herzegovina 2

[Mystic Mock]

I can't believe that the Referee's were incompetent yet again during an England game.

The fair result was 2-2 but clearly the goalkeeper can fall on top of our striker and still get the free kick rather than letting us have our goal that we rightfully earned.

[James]

I'm watching Denmark - Wales on BBC S4C iPlayer live - https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/s4c ... in Welsh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

great to see England continue their epic world cup form against decent teams

pub teams no problem

decent teams sh1te

Go Gareth

:skull:

[James]

I'm watching Denmark - Wales on BBC S4C iPlayer live - https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/s4c ... in Welsh.

Denmark players came back from their strike to win 2-0, btw. S4C was like watching Scottish football on BBC Alba, heh.

[Mystic Mock]

great to see England continue their epic world cup form against decent teams

pub teams no problem

decent teams sh1te

Go Gareth

:skull:

Tbf we drawed with Spain, it's not England's fault that we keep getting bad Referee's during our matches.

[bots]

Not many teams can get a good result against the mighty Albania ... well done Scotland :laugh:

[Nicky91]

this whole nations league isn't important anyway :(

[bots]

this whole nations league isn't important anyway :(

the winners of each group automatically qualify so of course its important

[Nicky91]

the winners of each group automatically qualify so of course its important

:o

Faroe Islands to make their debut at european championships then



Netherlands has no chance against france and Germany lmao :laugh2:

[James]

Spain beat Croatia 6-0. :o

[James]

I've been enjoying this tournament.

http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/what-is-the-uefa-nations-league-europe-plan-transform/jd6gey2do4y31udm7plqljcdr

Finland are doing well, I've noticed.

[Mystic Mock]

Yeah Finland have been playing really well which is great to see imo.

Also the Nederlands are doing quite well which is good to see as I do have a soft spot for them.

[Nicky91]

Finland playing really well yes


Luxembourg also easy wins, topping their group with 9 pts, same goes for Bosnia & Herzegovina also top of their group with 9 pts

:dance:


Netherlands had a little surprise win over Germany, and now a draw against Belgium (no.1 world ranking)

[Nicky91]

England slays :clap1: and Croatia relegated out of the round A into B round :o


Netherlands winning against France :eek:

[James]

Group winners all now guaranteed spot in March 2020 play-offs for Euro 2020.

--
League A - winners also go to finals next June
England
Netherlands
Portugal
Switzerland

League A - Relegated
Germany
Iceland
Poland
Croatia
--

--
League B - Promoted
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Denmark
Sweden
Ukraine

League B - Relegated
Slovakia
Turkey
Northern Ireland
Republic of Ireland
--

--
League C - Promoted
Finland
Norway
Scotland
Serbia

League C - Relegated
Estonia
Cyprus
Slovenia
Lithuania
--

League D - Promoted
Belarus
Georgia
Kosovo
Macedonia

^ I think they said before there's still going to be time for friendlies with, for example, South American teams.

In general I like the Nations League idea because I think friendly football matches are pointless.

There's a slightly weird twist though where one team from each of the four leagues will qualify for Euro 2020, which could result in a minnow team qualifying, or a team (maybe) trying to get relegated to a lower league to make qualification for the next Euros easier.

I realise now the Nations League overall rankings decide the seeding for the main Euro 2020 qualifying draw, which solves the highlighted bit above.

Germany will be in Pot 2 for the draw now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think Scotland, who won their group:hee:, are in the play-offs with just 2 games to reach the 2020 finals.

[Nicky91]

Bosnia & Herzegovina moving upwards :clap1: :clap1:

[bots]

It means that Scotland have 2 good chances to get to the next euros which is great, but now they have been promoted and the likes of Germany have been demoted, it will make it trickier to reach the finals 4 years on

[Calderyon]

Finland beat Ireland 1-0 yesterday.

With 3 wins (2 wins over Ireland and 1 over Bulgaria) and 1 loss (Wales) currently Finland is at least guaranteed to stay in League B.

[bots]

if scotland win their next league game they get promoted into the big boys league

[Nicky91]

yes same goes for Luxembourg (although tied with Montenegro), Slovenia looks like a certain for promotion again (with only Greece having a battle with them)

Faroe Islands looking solid for promotion either, lovely team and very good coach Brian Kerr

[Nicky91]

Slovakia needs new manager, Pavel Hapal has been sacked after he had been manager for national team for 2 years

[Cherie]

Finland beat Ireland 1-0 yesterday.

With 3 wins (2 wins over Ireland and 1 over Bulgaria) and 1 loss (Wales) currently Finland is at least guaranteed to stay in League B.

Was a treat to see fans in the stadium for the game albeit socially distanced

[Cherie]

The Republic are terrible at the moment :sad:

[Nicky91]

on now

Malta - Andorra (currently 0-1 by Rebés)

San Marino - Gibraltar (currently 0-0)

almost half time for these matches

[Nicky91]

Iceland is relegated


France through to semi finals, after win over Portugal

[Nicky91]

stupid trash wijnaldum :idc: :fist: ruining it for my Bosnia

hope someone breaks his leg

[Nicky91]

why can't netherlands just lose again :sad:


so that the loser frank de boer can **** off again

[Nicky91]

Bully Netherlands out of UEFA pls :fc:

[King Gizzard]

Jack best player for England yet again? and this time vs the top ranked team?

I’m absolutely shocked, shocked I tell you

[King Gizzard]

Just Jack flooring his biggest fan

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[Brother Leon]

Enough playing around and just play Kane,Sterling,Grealish,Rashford/Sancho already.

So much attacking talent and the lineups are depressing to look at the last few games.

[Calderyon]

Spain beats Germany 6-0.

Wow.

[Nicky91]

Spain beats Germany 6-0.

Wow.

so what, Spain are the european and world champion team

[Calderyon]

10 (World) and 8 (European) years ago.

[Nicky91]

Italy, Belgium, France, Spain are the final 4

who will play in semi finals, and final

[Calderyon]

Finland lost to Wales 3-1 and ended up in 2nd place in their group.

Finland stays in League B, while Wales is promoted to League A.

[Nicky91]

Joachim Low will stay as Germany's manager, the board of their FA has confirmed that

even after that 6-0 loss against Spain which was a new low in recent years

[Nicky91]

first finalist is Spain who won away in Milan with 1-2 over Italy

0-1 Ferran Torres
0-2 Ferran Torres
1-2 Pellegrini


42nd minute red card italy Bonucci (2x yellow)




tonight second semi final between Belgium and France

[Nicky91]

losers to 3rd/4th place match on sunday

and winners to final match also on sunday

[Nicky91]

France won with 2-3 against Belgium



so the 3rd/4th place match is Italy - Belgium


and the final is France - Spain

[Calderyon]

CONMEBOL are set to join in for the 2024/2025 season:

https://www.marca.com/en/football/nations-league/2021/12/17/61bcec43ca4741a9078b45e8.html

[Calderyon]

National League season 2022/2023:

League A:

Group 1:

Austria
Croatia
Denmark
France

Group 2:

Czechia
Portugal
Spain
Switzerland

Group 3:

England
Germany
Hungary
Italy

Group 4:

Poland
Belgium
Netherlands
Wales


League B:

Group 1:

Armenia
Ireland
Scotland
Ukraine

Group 2:

Iceland
Israel
Albania
Russia (will not play, automatically ranked 4th in the group)

Group 3:

Bosnia & Herzegovina
Finland
Montenegro
Romania

Group 4:

Sweden
Norway
Serbia
Slovenia

League C:

Group 1:

Faroe Islands
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Turku

Group 2:

Kosovo
Greece
Northern Ireland
Cyprus

Group 3:

Kazakhstan
Belarus
Slovakia
Azerbaidzhan

Group 4:

Georgia
Northern Makedonia
Bulgaria
Gibraltar

League D

Group 1:

Latvia
Liechtenstein
Moldova
Andorra

Group 2:

Estonia
Malta
San Marino

[Alf]

Get Channel 4 on now for a double header of sport

Super league rugby Castleford Tigers vs Wigan Warriors followed by England vs Hungary.

[bots]

Armenia 1 - 0 Republic of Ireland

Their next scalp will be Scotland :skull:

[MTVN]

Ireland seem to be going through a bad phase in their footballing history

[Calderyon]

Quite a bit of surprises in National League already:

France loses to Denmark at home, England loses to Hungary, Belgium gets completely mauled by Netherlands...

[Alf]

Kevin Keegan retired from football in 1984, England haven't produced a better player than him since then.

We just don't produce the best players in the World anymore like we used to. Gascoigne had the potential to be but he didn't have the mentality for it.

Shearer, Beckham and Rooney were great players but they were never close to being the best in the World.

We're an average football nation now when once we were the top dogs.

[Zizu]

Kevin Keegan retired from football in 1984, England haven't produced a better player than him since then.

We just don't produce the best players in the World anymore like we used to. Gascoigne had the potential to be but he didn't have the mentality for it.

Shearer, Beckham and Rooney were great players but they were never close to being the best in the World.

We're an average football nation now when once we were the top dogs.


You can’t tell these youngsters anything :)


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[Calderyon]

England was nearly Euroopan Champion last year though.

[Zizu]

England was nearly Euroopan Champion last year though.


They would have won if they’d had a half competent manager


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[Alf]

England was nearly Euroopan Champion last year though.That doesn't mean we produce the best players in the World, that just means we had a decent months football as a team. Any team can have a decent month. Greece won that title in 2004. I'm talking about producing the Messi's and Ronaldo's of their time.

Not since Kevin Keegan can England have a reasonable claim to have the best player in the World. And before Keegan players such as Dixie Dean, Stanley Matthews, Tom Finney, Bobby Charlton, Jimmy Greaves, Bobby Moore and even Duncan Edwards who died aged 21 were all considered the very elite of World players at some point in their careers.

Since Keegan no English player has been seen as having a reasonable shout as being the best player in the World. In the 80s Bryan Robson and Gary Lineker were never seen at the same level as Maradona, Platini or Van Basten. In the 90s and early 2000s, Shearer and Beckham were never seen at the same level as Brazilian Ronaldo or Zidane and since then Gerrard and Rooney were never at the level of Messi and Ronaldo.

Shearer is probably the best player England produced since Keegan and he was never considered the best in the World at any point of his career, nor was Gascoigne, nor was Beckham, nor was Rooney, nor is Kane.

If most of the best football historians picked the top ten English players ever you'd be lucky to have one player post Kevin Keegan in that list.

I will say that had it not been for injuries that Michael Owen maybe could have gone onto be considered the best in the World but it just didn't happen for him.

[Nicky91]

Belgium wasn't too bad but we dutch were just too solid in our own gameplay

+ Cillessen whom made quite a few great saves

Virgil whom probably wanted to give his all before now going on summer holiday



we might do worse now against Wales with different players here and there i think

[Zizu]

We need to get rid of Southgate and replace him with Howe or Potter


We were horrendous last night .. again


He is tactically inept

In the final with Italy
.. Mancini made tactical changes ..

Check out the last 10 mins of the first half then the first 20 mins of the second half
Southgate had no answers


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[bots]

I watched his post match interview today, and the first thing he talked about were the Hungarian fans and them booing taking the knee. Secondary to that was how the team actually played :laugh: I think that says it all really

[Zizu]

I can see Wales beating England in the WC group stages ..


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[bots]

wales are not very good. England playing at their poorest level could beat them. Englands WC group is so easy, they have no excuses this time round

[MTVN]

We need to get rid of Southgate and replace him with Howe or Potter


We were horrendous last night .. again


He is tactically inept

In the final with Italy
.. Mancini made tactical changes ..

Check out the last 10 mins of the first half then the first 20 mins of the second half
Southgate had no answers


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You won't get an aspiring club manager take on the England job, realistically it will always be someone at the end of their career or someone pretty unproven like Southgate was

[Zizu]

wales are not very good. England playing at their poorest level could beat them. Englands WC group is so easy, they have no excuses this time round


Optimist !

You saw us the other day I presume .

Worst performance of any team for a while


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[Nicky91]

You won't get an aspiring club manager take on the England job, realistically it will always be someone at the end of their career or someone pretty unproven like Southgate was

Steve McClaren as a interim manager while they can search for a permanent new manager to lead them at the world cup

he has previous england team experience too so

[Calderyon]

Germany v England 0-0 11'

[bots]

they were lucky there, the offside was close

[MTVN]

Soft pen and thought Kane was offside but not complaining, think we were good value for the draw overall

[Dogeatdog]

We started playing a lot better in the last 20 mins or so when Grealish came on. I’m happy with a draw but I won’t lie I thought we was gonna get battered 3-0 tonight especially because of how we played last Saturday.

[Swan]

I still can't take this Nations League seriously at all.

[Calderyon]

Germany v England 1-1 FT

50' 1-0 Hoffman (Kimmich)
88' 1-1 Kane PK

[Calderyon]

I still can't take this Nations League seriously at all.

Tbh, it's better than friendlies at least.

[MTVN]

Yeah I actually quite like it, best thing to happen to international football for a while. These games are much more competitive than friendlies and give more experience against similar standard opposition

[bots]

i think the league system where teams of a similar standard play against each other is a much fairer system too

[Cherie]

surprised they gave the pen, looked like offside

[Nicky91]

that wasn't a penalty at all, more a schwalbe

but yeah of course England need to be helped by VAR as usual, since they cannot score goals in a normal way :rolleyes:

wish they had lost so Gareth could've been sacked :idc: to make way for Prince of Enschede Steve McClaren's comeback

[Nicky91]

think Wales is going to win tonight against a weaker Netherlands without most of its normal starting 11 players

[Calderyon]

i think the league system where teams of a similar standard play against each other is a much fairer system too

Yeah, imo it gives lesser ranked countries a better chance to improve rather than always losing heavily to a much higher ranked team.

[Nicky91]

Yeah, imo it gives lesser ranked countries a better chance to improve rather than always losing heavily to a much higher ranked team.

which has been the main purpose of this



and it gives top nations a chance to more compete against similar top quality teams, and also one more trophy to compete for in the end, for the qualifiers from the top groups from division A

while from divisions B & C can first try and developing their squads better and fight for a chance of promotion


+ apparently for some lower ranked teams (divisions B, C) some advantages may be possible in any euro or world cup qualifiers, in terms of who might make it to play offs, increased chances via nations league points (another tie breaker in case of ties for 3rd/4th place there)

[bots]

good luck scotland :fc:

[Swan]

Wales Kappa

[Calderyon]

Another 1-0 loss for Ireland.

[Nicky91]

solid win for Portugal over Czechia 2-0 in coach Santos's 100th match as their manager :hug:

ouch North Macedonia, 0-3 loss against Georgia :o



Kosovo nice 3-2 win over northern ireland, kinda had seen that coming since Kosovo aren't too bad


Sweden 0-1 loss against Serbia, hmm i rated the swedes higher than that but ok nations league is full of surprises i think


Gibraltar decent 1-1 draw against a on paper way stronger Bulgaria :clap1:

[Nicky91]

Georgia all 3 matches won now in their group (12 goals for, 2 goals against) in a group with N.Macedonia, Bulgaria and Gibraltar

they are one who are taking maximum advantage of this nations league competition for the points

[Nicky91]

tonights games

Azerbaijan - Slovakia

Moldova - Latvia


Denmark - Croatia

Austria - France

Albania - Israel

Belarus - Kazakhstan

and a battle of the micro-states too

Andorra - Liechtenstein



----------------------------
meanwhile tomorrow

England - Italy

Netherlands - Poland

Hungary - Germany

Ireland - Scotland


a battle of balkans

Montenegro - Bosnia & Herzegovina


also

Ukraine - Armenia

Faroe Islands - Lithuania

[MTVN]

Thought Ireland were awful and here they are battering Scotland :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

we are playing like c u next tuesdays

[bots]

its embarrassing

[Swan]

How comes the stadium is 3/4's empty for the England game?

[MTVN]

How comes the stadium is 3/4's empty for the England game?

Punishment for the fans antics in the Euro 2020 final

[MTVN]

Gonna be like watching football in covid times again

[Swan]

Punishment for the fans antics in the Euro 2020 final

Ah right ok thanks.

[Calderyon]

England v Italy has started.

[Zizu]

England v Italy has started.


Another big yawn

Like Everton v Burnley so far


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[bots]

Sterling is captain :laugh:

[MTVN]

Well I'm pissed off I bothered to watch that, what a dreary affair only made more annoying by the only fans being screaming kids

[Swan]

Well I'm pissed off I bothered to watch that, what a dreary affair only made more annoying by the only fans being screaming kids

I watched the whole thing on mute, listened to a podcast, which was needless to say 1000x more interesting than the football.

[Zizu]

Sterling is captain :laugh:


He had another shocker


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[Nicky91]

Lucky Netherlands, and also karma for Depay missing that penalty :hehe:, not sure if it was a penalty, i mean it was hands, yes but we cannot saw his arm off sooo there is hands and there is hands if you get what i'm saying

that wasn't intentionally hands i think, more accidentally



although VAR was correct on both no offside moments :)


now roll on tuesday, home against Wales

[Nicky91]

England - Italy


glad i didn't watch that :fan:






today we got

Northern Ireland - Cyprus

Norway - Sweden

North Macedonia - Gibraltar

Georgia - Bulgaria

Switzerland - Portugal

Spain - Czech Republic

Slovenia - Serbia

Greece - Kosovo

Malta - San Marino

[Nicky91]

Greece are promoted into next seasons division B


Georgia, Kazakhstan seem to be very close to promotion


Norway, Serbia seem to be battling it out for promotion into division A

[bots]

Armenia 1 Scotland 0 :skull:

[Nicky91]

Netherlands with Vincent Janssen instead of Depay against Wales tonight

[bots]

Armenia 1 Scotland 3 on 50 mins whew

[Calderyon]

^ Armenia red card probably helped.

[Calderyon]

England v Hungary 0-1 34'

16' 0-1 Sallai

[bots]

England 0-3 Hungary on 79 mins

"You don't know what you're doing" is the cry directed at Gareth Southgate from the fans at Molienux.

[Crimson Dynamo]

And it's 4

[Beso]

Maybe england will be better of booking flights to rwanda instead if dubia.

[Calderyon]

England v Hungary 0-1 34'

16' 0-1 Sallai (Lang)

England v Hungary 0-4 FT

70' 0-2 Sallai (Adam)
80' 0-3 Nagy (Adam)
89' 0-4 Gazdag (Nagy)

[Calderyon]

England now very likely to drop to League B.

[MTVN]

Can't remember a more shambolic result in my lifetime :skull:

Be more forgiveable if it was a freak result but we've been awful in this whole series of games

[Alf]

I didn't even know they were playing tonight, that's how much they interest me these days.

How comes they played Hungary again, they played them last week didn't they?

England kneel Hungary 4

[Beso]

Great decision to bring Maguire on to shore up the defence at 3-0

[Zizu]

Hopefully Southgate does the honourable thing and resign now .

Worse home defeat since 1928

Losing twice in 11 days against Hungary who are three places behind Scotland in the world rankings ..

Hungary recently lost at home to Serbia then lost home AND away against the mighty Albania


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[Alf]

I've never rated him as a manager. He got a dream draw in the World Cup and failed against Croatia and then another great draw on home soil in the Euros and failed again.

He's been dining out on getting far in tournaments but for the draws he's had in those tournaments and the quality of players he's had, who all play in the best league in the World, then he should be making finals and probably winning.

The World Cup even with a good draw they still only scraped past Columbia on penalties and then fell to Croatia.

In the Euro's they only had 1 major test on route to the final against the Germans and then in the final they played in defensive mode on their home ground and were deservedly beaten.

He should have won at least 1 of those tournaments, he had the best opportunity of any England manager in my lifetime.

Time to change manager, although I don't see any English managers out there with a good CV at present. All the top jobs in this country are managed by foreign managers.

[Zizu]

Southgate never earned the right to manage England .. it was just circumstances .. it just fell into his lap


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[MTVN]

I've never rated him as a manager. He got a dream draw in the World Cup and failed against Croatia and then another great draw on home soil in the Euros and failed again.

He's been dining out on getting far in tournaments but for the draws he's had in those tournaments and the quality of players he's had, who all play in the best league in the World, then he should be making finals and probably winning.

The World Cup even with a good draw they still only scraped past Columbia on penalties and then fell to Croatia.

In the Euro's they only had 1 major test on route to the final against the Germans and then in the final they played in defensive mode on their home ground and were deservedly beaten.

He should have won at least 1 of those tournaments, he had the best opportunity of any England manager in my lifetime.

Time to change manager, although I don't see any English managers out there with a good CV at present. All the top jobs in this country are managed by foreign managers.

Agree with all that but not sure its worth getting rid of Southgate now with only two games until the World Cup. Think we'll just have to roll with it and hope for the best, after this a new manager could have 18 months leading up to the next Euros to settle in and find his best team

[MTVN]

Fed up of people using the excuse that the players are knackered after a long season etc. as well - they'd normally be playing a World Cup right now! And Southgate has rotated so much that they've all had plenty of rest

[Zizu]

Fed up of people using the excuse that the players are knackered after a long season etc. as well - they'd normally be playing a World Cup right now! And Southgate has rotated so much that they've all had plenty of rest


You’d think it was just US who’ve been playing this season


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[bots]

to me the england team are suffering from man united syndrome, where they are good players, but they just can't be arsed playing for whatever reason

[Zizu]

Southgate - TalkSport interview

With negatives comes positives , we know now that maybe some of the younger players maybe aren’t as far on as we thought . It’s possible that we’re looking at Euro 2024 before they’re ready.


That’s one bizarre positive !!

He isn’t even a man of his word .

A few days ago he said he won’t stay if he’s not wanted .. last night the whole stadium ridiculed him and sang derogatory ditties towards him

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[Zizu]

He has to go and NOW after stating things like this a few days ago .

Gareth Southgate has insisted that he will not outstay his welcome as England manager and said he is aware of the growing criticism of his team selections. Southgate, 51, added that he believed his players remain behind him and that he can oversee further improvements in results.

England host Italy today in what is the sides’ first meeting since the Euro 2020 final defeat on penalties at Wembley in July.


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[bots]

changing the manager 2 games before the world cup isn't a smart move. If he fails at the world cup then he will be gone.

[Zizu]

changing the manager 2 games before the world cup isn't a smart move. If he fails at the world cup then he will be gone.


We’ve had our worst home defeat sibcd 1928 .. lost home and away to a Hungary a team who are three places below Scotland in the team rankings ..

A Hungary team who lost home and away to Albania


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[Beso]

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[Nicky91]

fixtures

today

Scotland - Ukraine


tomorrow

Kazakhstan - Belarus

Latvia - Moldova

France - Austria

Croatia - Denmark

Belgium - Wales

Poland - Netherlands

Turkiye - Luxembourg

Lithuania - Faroe Islands

Slovakia - Azerbaijan

Liechtenstein - Andorra


friday

Georgia - North Macedonia

Estonia - Malta

Italy - England

Germany - Hungary

Finland - Romania

Bosnia Herzegovina - Montenegro

Bulgaria - Gibraltar

saturday

Armenia - Ukraine

Slovenia - Norway

Northern Ireland - Kosovo

Spain - Switzerland

Czech Republic - Portugal

Scotland - Ireland

Israel - Albania

Serbia - Sweden

Cyprus - Greece

[bots]

The BBC football page isn't even mentioning the nations league :skull:

[Crimson Dynamo]

mon the Scots

:amazed:

[Beso]

mon the Scots

:amazed:

Typical.

[bots]

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[Nicky91]

Netherlands great 0-2 win


not so great the injuries for Koopmeiners and Depay though

[Calderyon]

Germany v Hungary 0-1

That's terrible.

[Crimson Dynamo]

england need to sack you know
who

[bots]

his speciality seems to be playing out of form players. Declan Rice was embarrassing on the interview, saying they played really well :skull:

[Zizu]

his speciality seems to be playing out of form players. Declan Rice was embarrassing on the interview, saying they played really well :skull:


Southgate said afterwards that he thought we were in control from the start !!


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[bots]

iran beat uruguay 1-0

[Nicky91]

Armenia - Ukraine currently 0-1

goalscorer tymchyk



soo if Ukraine wins this then Ireland can take things easy against Scotland knowing they are safe from relegation anyway

[bots]

Scotland need 1 point for promotion

[Calderyon]

England relegated to League B.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands, Croatia into nations league semi finals

[bots]

oops :skull:

[Beso]

Scotland need 1 point for promotion

Please tell me its England we play?

[GiRTh]

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:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Beso]

I missed those 2 goals...

To busy gloating on TIBB.

[GiRTh]

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[bots]

maguire can play for england as much as he likes as long as he doesnt play for Man U

[Crimson Dynamo]

what a pen

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh f

[GiRTh]

Cant blame Maguire for that one.

These 'squad' players have cost all the Germany goals

[Dogeatdog]

Pope could’ve done better really.

[Nicky91]

the last of the group finals today

Portugal - Spain

who will claim the last ticket for the semi finals



Scotland a important game as well, who will book promotion to division A, the Scots or Ukraine

and who will relegate from that group to Division C Ireland or Armenia


Norway - Serbia another final for promotion

Sweden - Slovenia another one for relegation decider

[Beso]

Massive result for Scotland.

Heart of midlothians worlds number 1 goalkeeper craig Gordon, take a bow.

[Nicky91]

nations league finals in Netherlands :cool:


semi final of Netherlands vs Croatia

[Nicky91]

Wednesday 14th June

Netherlands v Croatia

Thursday 15th June

Spain v Italy



Final and 3rd/4th place matches on Sunday 18th June

[Nicky91]

Croatia won with 4-2 after extra time and advances to sunday's final


Netherlands will play 3rd/4th place match on sunday

[Nicky91]

Spain beat Italy 2-1 and now faces Croatia in sunday's grand final


Italy will play Netherlands in sunday's 3rd/4th place mini final

[Nicky91]

Spain won after penalty shootouts vs Croatia


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meanwhile over at Concacaf, also their nations league finals were held, and USA won it

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in a final vs Canada