Do you ever feel like you don't fit into the Tibb Crowd?

[Rob!]

Rob you yourself admit in this post that you were basically ignored when you first started posting in the chat threads which completely contradicts you then replying to me saying its not true.

The chat threads can seem very cliquey ( yes i mentioned the word clique after numerous other members had already done in the thread before me) and unwelcoming which you yourself have just proven at the same time as rubbishing those claims.

I also dont get the connection you try to make with some people saying they feel left out on the forum and me telling people to 'piss off' which btw i would never post to anyone that i wasnt friendly with or who never knew how to take my humour because believe or not yes i also have people i get on with and have a laugh with just as the other mods do, we are afterall members of this forum too..

But as lots of people in here have pointed out, including other mods, it's more a case of new people settling in than deliberately being ignored. It's not a conscious thing that is ever done. Every single member that has ever posted anywhere on this forum was probably "ignored" for a bit, when they first started, even you.

And exactly - you do it to people you get on with, which is exactly the same thing that happens in the chat thread with a number of people that post in there, so I don't really understand why you brought it up, unless you're implying that established members having banter like that with one another is somehow off putting to people that don't post in there as often? Which, again, is something you say you do to the people you get on with on here? It's surely no different.

[Kizzy]

I actually miss the days when I was ignored, I was the original 'thread killa' remember that Josy?
Now I seem almost impossible to ignore, it's a cross I have to bear.

[Lush]

I actually don't think this forum is as cliquey as some other forums I've been on.

When I first started posting here so many people messaged me to welcome me, which is something I've never really had on other places.

[Cherie]

oh :suspect: didn't i hear you say something about your popular gang

Yes me, you and LT the popular clique

[Josy]

But as lots of people in here have pointed out, including other mods, it's more a case of new people settling in than deliberately being ignored. It's not a conscious thing that is ever done. Every single member that has ever posted anywhere on this forum was probably "ignored" for a bit, when they first started, even you.

And exactly - you do it to people you get on with, which is exactly the same thing that happens in the chat thread with a number of people that post in there, so I don't really understand why you brought it up, unless you're implying that established members having banter like that with one another is somehow off putting to people that don't post in there as often? Which, again, is something you say you do to the people you get on with on here? It's surely no different.Well no theres no comparison there at all, im almost 100% sure that me telling someone to piss off does not make other members feel left out.

[Rob!]

Well no theres no comparison there at all, im almost 100% sure that me telling someone to piss off does not make other members feel left out.

And I'm 100% sure that the chat that goes on in the chat thread does not make other members feel left out, demonstrated by the fact that new members always end up posting in there? :shrug:

[Josy]

And I'm 100% sure that the chat that goes on in the chat thread does not make other members feel left out, demonstrated by the fact that new members always end up posting in there? :shrug:How can you be 100% sure when you yourself admitted you were ignored and also multiple members have said it throughout the thread. :think:

[Withano]

Yes me, you and LT the popular clique

https://typeset-beta.imgix.net/rehost%2F2016%2F9%2F13%2F5fe467c4-65d7-4a4a-b37e-ad19adea67be.png?w=740&h=437&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format&q=70

Me making my way in to dismantle it from the inside.

[Rob!]

How can you be 100% sure when you yourself admitted you were ignored and also multiple members have said it throughout the thread. :think:

Sure. Pick my post to pieces and remove only the sections that work for your argument that numerous people in here, including other mods have disagreed with. You can't just say it's alright for you to do it, but anyone else who does it is part of a clique, and making other people feel unwelcome. There's no difference at all. If you want an example of a clique, why the hell are there two chat threads anyway? Surely if clique forming is something you want to avoid, then it makes sense for us all to post in the same one, but the house of pablo is still standing. My point is at what stage does a group of people who get on chatting together go from group to clique in your mind?

[Josy]

Sure. Pick my post to pieces and remove only the sections that work for your argument that numerous people in here, including other mods have disagreed with. You can't just say it's alright for you to do it, but anyone else who does it is part of a clique, and making other people feel unwelcome. There's no difference at all. If you want an example of a clique, why the hell are there two chat threads anyway? Surely if clique forming is something you want to avoid, then it makes sense for us all to post in the same one, but the house of pablo is still standing. My point is at what stage does a group of people who get on chatting together go from group to clique in your mind?No one said being friends with others was cliquey behaviour rob...

[Rob!]

No one said being friends with others was cliquey behaviour rob...

But that's exactly what we're being accused of?

[Josy]

But that's exactly what we're being accused of?No it isnt, not sure about others in the thread but ive never compared being friends with people to clique behaviour infact you seem to be the one doing that.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

https://media.giphy.com/media/6Sp6DbGlOhjMs/giphy.gif

[Vicky.]

Sure. Pick my post to pieces and remove only the sections that work for your argument that numerous people in here, including other mods have disagreed with.

I don't think theres any need to keep emphasising this 'other mods' part tbh. Believe it or not, the mod/admin team are not a hive mind and actually disagree on a fairly regular basis...so really what other mods have said has no bearing on your convo with josy

That said, again I dont see what josy has said thats so bad? Again to bring up...you are simultaneosly claiming that the regular chat thread posters never ignore anyone, and that when you started posting there you were ignored.

As I have said a couple of times in the thread, yes the chat threads can seem cliquey from the outside looking in. When you read through them and regularly see new people being ignored. Yes, if the poster persists then they tend to also end up 'part of the gang' for want of better words. But the being ignored at the start still did happen (which you and others admit yourselves). Which is why people reading it for the first time can be put off posting (maybe along with the OTT graphic sex talk, which thankfully seems to have been moved to PM recently rather than the main thread). As there is a large chance, that they will actually be ignored, even just to start with. Noone wants to be ignored...I think we can agree on that part at least :laugh:

Yes, it can be the same in other areas of the forum too. Yes this happens naturally when groups of friends are chatting together. Yes, if people ignore being ignored and just keep at it, they will not be ignored anymore. And yes maybe ignoring people is not actually meant. But it happens...as has been agreed on. This does not mean it is an intentional thing or that y'all are doing it to be mean or whatever. Just trying (yet again) to explain what its like when you are not a regular.

I posted in the chat thread yesterday, as a regular member but not a regular chat thread poster and seemed welcomed with open arms (though this may have just been 1. As I am a mod and 2. As I was being extremely negative about a member most dislike) so it is not always that non-regulars are ignored. There also seems to have been more of an effort to get new people to actually join in on the thread, which is a great thing. But to deny it happens, whilst admitting it happens, is a little silly

Finally, I think some of this argument may possibly be a bit of a disconnect with what clique means. Again, as discovered earlier in the thread...to me it means fairly tight nit friendship group. To others it seems to mean mean girls type friendship group who will actively be awful to people outside that group.

[Ashley.]

Ashley how can it be clear who im referring to? That comment wasnt made with any particular member in mind the fact is some members do get ignored on the odd occasion they post in the chat threads, ive not only witnessed this happen but other members have said its happened to them...

It's clear who you're referring to just from observing your general attitude towards them.

If I want to reply to a post then I will, and I'm sure that's the same with anybody else... but if someone is starting up a discussion about a television show I don't watch, or something I cannot relate to, I generally won't involve myself in that discussion, whether they're a regular poster or just posting on the odd occasion. If someone posts something and is ignored, I personally don't see it as a massive issue - nobody is under any obligation to reply to every single post they see. Alternatively if a poster was to directly start a discussion with somebody in particular, it's very, very rare that they'd be ignored by them for no reason.

[Vicky.]

Also maybe worth thinking about, is to an outsider its fairly daunting to approach a group of people who know each other fairly well. So they may FEEL more ignored than they are. If that makes sense. Say the pst the make is something that generally would not ge a reply no matter who posted it, they may feel that its just because it was them, as they are already a bit...lets say nervous...about putting themselves out there.

This goes for all places on the forum, not just the chat threads.

Now, this is not the fault of the members involved. Its just one of those things. But this goes a little way of why newer members (and some older members) feel very ignored.

I tend to make more of an effort to reply to newbies threads...as even though it was a long time ago, I remember making threads and getting no replies while watching other threads on the same thing (or something similar) fill up instantly. Hell that shows how long ago this was doesn't it...when replies were hundreds in a few mins on season :laugh:

[Josy]

It's clear who you're referring to just from observing your general attitude towards them.

If I want to reply to a post then I will, and I'm sure that's the same with anybody else... but if someone is starting up a discussion about a television show I don't watch, or something I cannot relate to, I generally won't involve myself in that discussion, whether they're a regular poster or just posting on the odd occasion. If someone posts something and is ignored, I personally don't see it as a massive issue - nobody is under any obligation to reply to every single post they see. Alternatively if a poster was to directly start a discussion with somebody in particular, it's very, very rare that they'd be ignored by them for no reason.

It can't be clear because again I'm not referring to any member specifically, I mentioned member/members etc in my post generally so I'm afraid you've got the wrong end of the stick there.

Also no one is saying you or anyone else has to reply to anything or anyone, a newer member being ignored in a chat thread was an example of why some members felt left out, it has happened a lot, in some cases there have actually been comments when a member posts in the chat thread or any other thread that's been met with replies like 'eww' 'why are you in here' and so on, it's happened....and those are the type of comments and behaviour that make some members feel unwelcome.

And then there's groups of members taking over threads with off topic comments and 'in' jokes, there's been situations were groups of members will go into a thread and 'pack' attack a member when they disagree with or get into an argument with someone that's part of their group of friends, all things that do happen and I would certainly describe as clique behaviour.

[Rob!]

Also maybe worth thinking about, is to an outsider its fairly daunting to approach a group of people who know each other fairly well. So they may FEEL more ignored than they are. If that makes sense. Say the pst the make is something that generally would not ge a reply no matter who posted it, they may feel that its just because it was them, as they are already a bit...lets say nervous...about putting themselves out there.

This goes for all places on the forum, not just the chat threads.

Now, this is not the fault of the members involved. Its just one of those things. But this goes a little way of why newer members (and some older members) feel very ignored.

I tend to make more of an effort to reply to newbies threads...as even though it was a long time ago, I remember making threads and getting no replies while watching other threads on the same thing (or something similar) fill up instantly. Hell that shows how long ago this was doesn't it...when replies were hundreds in a few mins on season :laugh:

All this is what I'm saying though - we all do it, we've all had it done to us. Its nothing to do with unwelcoming behaviour, it's just normal human interaction. Nothing to do with mean girls cliqueness.

[Marsh.]

let's have our discussion over pm, please Marsh :(
This is fighting talk. I'm telling.

[Marsh.]

How can you be 100% sure when you yourself admitted you were ignored and also multiple members have said it throughout the thread. :think:
There's a difference between feeling ignored and like a spare part as a new member who isn't as familiar with members as a regular poster is and actually consciously being excluded from a thread or a discussion.

[Vicky.]

All this is what I'm saying though - we all do it, we've all had it done to us. Its nothing to do with unwelcoming behaviour, it's just normal human interaction. Nothing to do with mean girls cliqueness.

Again...clique does not necessarily mean mean girls type behavior :S

[Nicky91]

This is fighting talk. I'm telling.

:rolleyes: so not interested in your crap rn

[Marsh.]

It's clear who you're referring to just from observing your general attitude towards them.

If I want to reply to a post then I will, and I'm sure that's the same with anybody else... but if someone is starting up a discussion about a television show I don't watch, or something I cannot relate to, I generally won't involve myself in that discussion, whether they're a regular poster or just posting on the odd occasion. If someone posts something and is ignored, I personally don't see it as a massive issue - nobody is under any obligation to reply to every single post they see. Alternatively if a poster was to directly start a discussion with somebody in particular, it's very, very rare that they'd be ignored by them for no reason.
Spot on.

[RileyH]

Rileyhollyoaks is a recent new member and is one of the most posted member on the recent chat threads i guess he talks to himself since he gets ignored.

you're not wrong

[Marsh.]

:rolleyes: so not interested in your crap rn
:oh:

[RileyH]

how fake this sweet behaviour coming from you, didn't know you were close friends with Ammi :fan:

Nicky is starting a ruckus.

let's have our discussion over pm, please Marsh :(

This is fighting talk. I'm telling.

:rolleyes: so not interested in your crap rn

:oh:

:laugh2:

[Jordan.]

and actually consciously being excluded from a thread or a discussion.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9289672&postcount=1264

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9289682&postcount=1271

[Denver]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9289672&postcount=1264

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9289682&postcount=1271

Drag them and expose them

[Cal.]

Everybody loves me, well the odd bastard hates me but they're just wrong

[RileyH]

Marsh and Rob are the nastiest gals around

[Cal.]

Sue I'll be your friend shug

[Cal.]

Don't worry Sue I'm old too :laugh:

:joker:

[Denver]

Marsh and Rob are the nastiest gals around

But both go around acting innocent and that they are the best thing since sliced bread

[Rob!]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9289672&postcount=1264

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9289682&postcount=1271

:laugh2:

I'm not even bothering.

But both go around acting innocent and that they are the best thing since sliced bread

:smug:

[Jordan.]

Drag them and expose them

I've also seen screenies from this non existent cliques kik chat bitching about me and Daniel

https://68.media.tumblr.com/6079c7b8d9b4e119a92c11f67c2758dd/tumblr_nsxnumxPQr1rab5nto1_500.gif

[LukeB]

I get attacked a hell of a lot in the chat threads for no reason

And you also attack others a hell of a lot for no reason Adam we arent stupid....

But both go around acting innocent and that they are the best thing since sliced bread

.

[Cal.]

Adam wtf is this

https://image.ibb.co/iF7k15/a_Adam_ssg.png

[LukeB]

I've also seen screenies from this non existent cliques kik chat bitching about me and Daniel

https://68.media.tumblr.com/6079c7b8d9b4e119a92c11f67c2758dd/tumblr_nsxnumxPQr1rab5nto1_500.gif

and you don't do the same and not forgetting faking to be me on digital spy i know you were also involved in that.

[Denver]

.

Jordan posted stuff about me being attacked so i commented so go back to your clique

[Jordan.]

and you don't do the same and not forgetting faking to be me on digital spy i know you were also involved in that.

Lol no I wasn't at all :pat:

[LukeB]

Jordan posted stuff about me being attacked so i commented so go back to your clique

i don't have a clique

[LukeB]

Lol no I wasn't at all :pat:

sure jan :pat:

[Denver]

I've also seen screenies from this non existent cliques kik chat bitching about me and Daniel

https://68.media.tumblr.com/6079c7b8d9b4e119a92c11f67c2758dd/tumblr_nsxnumxPQr1rab5nto1_500.gif

Expose them

[RileyH]

I don't understand all this tbh, what cliques are there suppose to be? :shrug:

[Denver]

Adam wtf is this

https://image.ibb.co/iF7k15/a_Adam_ssg.png
The 4 greatest Civi housemates ever

[Jordan.]

Expose them

I see Luke is getting pressed cause he was the one I have bitching in the screenshots

[Denver]

Actually lets just ignore them its better that way

[Denver]

I see Luke is getting pressed cause he was the one I have bitching in the screenshots

I have tea but i need to boil the kettle 1st

[LukeB]

I see Luke is getting pressed cause he was the one I have bitching in the screenshots

i'm not pressed :joker: i don't even care, it's just you acting all moral when you have a clique and bitch about members too and go on threads to start trouble :joker: and not forgetting the DS thing planned by your clique

[Jordan.]

i'm not pressed :joker: i don't even care, it's just you acting all moral when you have a clique and bitch about members too and go on threads to start trouble :joker: and not forgetting the DS thing planned by your clique

The only person I speak to off site regularly is Daniel so that's some clique of two people and as for the DS thing I only knew about it when Douglas confessed to making it so stop acting like you know **** cause you really don't

[LukeB]

The only person I speak to off site regularly is Daniel so that's some clique of two people and as for the DS thing I only knew about it when Douglas confessed to making it so stop acting like you know **** cause you really don't

We all know who Douglas is don't we, mods confirmed it ages ago and it's known you are close friends with him so you obviously knew before it even was exposed by the person who found it. :hee:

[Jordan.]

We all know who Douglas is don't we, mods confirmed it ages ago and it's known you are close friends with him so you obviously knew before it even was exposed by the person who found it. :hee:

Again making accusations based on an assumption, I wont waste my time any longer.

[LukeB]

Again making accusations based on an assumption, I wont waste my time any longer.

good, i rather not read lies tbf

[Greg!]

Hmm bring back the weaves era tbh!
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7bu4ZOUdlOuWYiA0/giphy.gif

[TomToWin]

I have to say that I joined this forum in the summer and have been made to feel more than welcome by a few members such as nancy,parmnion and rileyhollyoaks.

[Jordan.]

good, i rather not read lies tbf

We already know you don't read your own posts back

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7bu4ZOUdlOuWYiA0/giphy.gif

[LukeB]

We already know you don't read your own posts back

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7bu4ZOUdlOuWYiA0/giphy.gif

and i know you lie
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7bu4ZOUdlOuWYiA0/giphy.gif

[Marsh.]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9289672&postcount=1264

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9289682&postcount=1271
Yeah look at me excluding the new innocent members.

It's not like they've ever done anything wrong with hunting down members personal details. :pat:

[Marsh.]

But both go around acting innocent and that they are the best thing since sliced bread
You are OBSESSED with me.

[Marsh.]

I've also seen screenies from this non existent cliques kik chat bitching about me and Daniel

https://68.media.tumblr.com/6079c7b8d9b4e119a92c11f67c2758dd/tumblr_nsxnumxPQr1rab5nto1_500.gif
Enjoy. :love:

[BBUK-Fan]

I don't fit in with any forum members

[Marsh.]

Actually lets just ignore them its better that way
But 90% of your posts are about us.

[LukeB]

I don't fit in with any forum members

i thought you did, you fitted in well in the game i hosted.

[Marsh.]

Wow and people say the chat thread is the forum's problem.

:idc:

[BBUK-Fan]

i thought you did, you fitted in well in the game i hosted.

I don't think I did

[Denver]

But 90% of your posts are about us.

Clearly they are not but you keep telling yourself that

[LukeB]

I don't I did

i think games is a great way of meeting new people or the chat thread.

[RileyH]

Wow and people say the chat thread is the forum's problem.

:idc:

http://i.imgur.com/X3U5dTD.gif

[Ant.]

LukeB is gorgeous and amazing

[LukeB]

LukeB is gorgeous and amazing

:love:

-gives you £100 pound for saying this like we agreed-

[Ant.]

:love:

-gives you £100 pound for saying this like we agreed-

:love:

-takes the £100 and pays 2 other forum members £50 each to say nice things about me-

[Daniel.]

Yeah look at me excluding the new innocent members.

It's not like they've ever done anything wrong with hunting down members personal details. :pat:

Will you shut up with this?

I haven’t done that.

[LukeB]

:love:

-takes the £100 and pays 2 other forum members £50 each to say nice things about me-

they will do it for free because you are a legend?

[Marsh.]

Will you shut up with this?

I haven’t done that.
Shut up with this?

Your little friend brought it up.

[Jordan.]

Yeah look at me excluding the new innocent members.

It's not like they've ever done anything wrong with hunting down members personal details. :pat:

So even if that was the case it gives you an excuse to behave negatively? A very mature mindset there :pat:

[Ant.]

they will do it for free because you are a legend?

:love: :love: :love:

babes I was on my way to legend status but I threw it all away BUT I still have you and RileyH because I know he'll fume if I dont mention him so what else matters???

YOU on the other hand are a TiBB Legend And/Or Myth (idk how that works just roll with it). Easily my fav and you should be admin just because you're great and I know you'll treat the website as good as you treat your friends :love:

[Daniel.]

Shut up with this?

Your little friend brought it up.

Well no because your making out things I haven’t done.

[Shaun]

I'm starting a clique with waterhog, anyone who wants to join has to submit a haiku

no entries yet but I'm sure you're all just shy

[Jordan.]

Shut up with this?

Your little friend brought it up.

I brought up your behaviour in the chat thread like many other members and staff have done in this thread. Yet as always you try turn it back on others with false accusations rather than explaining your own actions.

[LukeB]

:love: :love: :love:

babes I was on my way to legend status but I threw it all away BUT I still have you and RileyH because I know he'll fume if I dont mention him so what else matters???

YOU on the other hand are a TiBB Legend And/Or Myth (idk how that works just roll with it). Easily my fav and you should be admin just because you're great and I know you'll treat the website as good as you treat your friends :love:

I will ban everyone but you (i probably would)

that was why i wasn't a prefect, because they assumed i would give everyone detentions for the fun of it.. they were right though, i was so close

[LukeB]

no entries yet but I'm sure you're all just shy

Sugartits will sign up

[Ant.]

Tbh, when it comes to people being accused of being a "clique" on here yet you have the likes of Lilbro and RileyHollyoaks who not to long ago weren't really all that much active on the forum, and just jump in and chat regardless about anything and whoever they want.

I think 90% of the time people feel ostracised or like they can't post because of their own mind set whereas if you jump right in and do whatever you'll see it's not a clique. Just a group of members who have become familiar with one another.

Just like when I first joined and didn't really use the chat threads for years because the regular posters in them I didn't know.

It was only by jumping in, I got to know members.

But then when you have the very odd person, not all that common really, but the odd one who purposely tries to rile people up or say something controversial for the sake of it. Then when they are called out on it cry "Clique! Clique! They won't let me play!" :shrug:

hnn I didn't see this but :love:

I'll never understand the whole "chat thread is a clique!!" mentality because 90% of the people who post there probably hate me but I still post/get the chat threads shut down because why not?

no entries yet but I'm sure you're all just shy

i do want to be

a Tee Eye Bee Bee legend

let me join clique


.

[RileyH]

and RileyH because I know he'll fume if I dont mention him

it's cute that you think I care

[Ant.]

I will ban everyone but you (i probably would)

that was why i wasn't a prefect, because they assumed i would give everyone detentions for the fun of it.. they were right though, i was so close

:love: well everyone else deserves it! :oh:

Prefects were allowed to give out detentions? Wtf I was Head Boy and the most I could do was report people... I reported a kid for pushing my friend into lockers and she banged her head and it literally went nowhere. I think it was for the best though because I used to mark people I didn't like down as not doing their duty :joker:

[Marsh.]

So even if that was the case it gives you an excuse to behave negatively? A very mature mindset there :pat:
Almost as mature as you bringing it up in an irrelevant topic months later.

But... if I mean that much to you.

[Vicky.]

FFS

Sue, sorry for closing your thread. Its nothing to do with you, honest.