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30-10-2017, 06:06 AM
Hollywood star Kevin Spacey has made an apology after being accused of making a sexual advance toward a child actor.

Anthony Rapp, who was 14, said Spacey invited him to a party and seemed drunk when the alleged incident happened.

Spacey, who was then 26, said: "I honestly do not remember the encounter, it would have been over 30 years ago.

"But if I did behave then as he describes, I owe him the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behaviour."

Rapp says he is sharing the story now after the Harvey Weinstein scandal.

The movie mogul has been accused by more than 50 women of a range of allegations ranging from rape to sexual harassment. Mr Weinstein has denied any claims of non-consensual sex.

The accusations have sparked a debate about inappropriate behaviour in the entertainment industry and beyond, and encouraged more people to share their experiences.

In an interview given to BuzzFeed News, the 46-year-old Star Trek: Discovery actor said he was sitting on the edge of a bed after the party - held in Spacey's apartment in 1986 - when Oscar-winning Spacey, now 58, came into the bedroom.

"He picked me up like a groom picks up the bride over the threshold. But I don't, like, squirm away initially, because I'm like, 'What's going on?' And then he lays down on top of me," Rapp said.

"He was trying to seduce me... I was aware that he was trying to get with me sexually."

Rapp said he was able to go to the bathroom before he left.

Responding to the allegation, Spacey said he was "sorry for the feelings [Rapp] describes having carried with him all these years".

He also addressed "stories" about his personal life, saying he had had relationships with both men and women and was now living as a gay man.

"I want to deal with this honestly and openly and that starts with examining my own behaviour."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41799026

Full story from Anthony Rapp: https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/anthony-rapp-kevin-spacey-made-sexual-advance-when-i-was-14?utm_term=.qdqg9zpNB#.kvD9Xv83e

Spacey's response:

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Jamie89
30-10-2017, 12:11 PM
I find his statement really odd. I'm sorry but surely you don't just forget if you've sexually assaulted a child :umm2: I don't care how many years have passed. And let's say he didn't do it, he's still basically saying that it's something that he can imagine himself doing while drunk, he's not actually saying it didn't happen or wouldn't have happened, just that he can't remember and he's sorry if he did it. That's not a normal response. If you know it's something you wouldn't have done you'd outright deny it. The way it's worded especially at the end makes me wonder if he knows there are other stories that could come out about him and he's trying to limit the damage as much as possible rather than say something now that could expose him as a liar further down the line. The statement's PR - and I wouldn't be surprised if the coming out is intended as a distraction (even though it's no surprise, I always just assumed everyone knew and he knew everyone knew but he didn't like to discuss it publicly).

Niamh.
30-10-2017, 12:26 PM
I never knew Kevin Spacey was gay but I agree Jamie it sounds like him coming out is like him trying to switch the focus which is awful and if I were a gay man I think id be uncomfortable with that, like it's understandable to sexual harrass a child because he was hiding being gay? Wut? Hmmm

Cherie
30-10-2017, 12:28 PM
I never knew Kevin Spacey was gay but I agree Jamie it sounds like him coming out is like him trying to switch the focus which is awful and if I were a gay man I think id be uncomfortable with that, like it's understandable to sexual harrass a child because he was hiding being gay? Wut? Hmmm

agree, I never knew he was gay either.

Shaun
30-10-2017, 12:34 PM
It was always kinda known but not said (re: him being gay) but yeah this was a stupid time to come out.

I would say re: Jamie's point that I think it's fairly well-documented that he was also a regular coke user so I don't know if that clouded his judgment/awareness of his actions but that is merely conjecture so I wouldn't really stand on it too solidly... the allegation sounds horrible and, as a big fan of Spacey, it's super disappointing to hear.

UserSince2005
30-10-2017, 12:38 PM
Funny we were talking about Kevin the other day.

My friend who works in the thearter scene was recalling a story of him trying to seceduce a famous male actor at a party some years back and when he was rejected he turned to some fat girl to toss him off and told her that he’ll just close his eyes and think of the actor.

How degrading for the poor woman.

He’s well known for his ****.

Jamie89
30-10-2017, 12:50 PM
I never knew Kevin Spacey was gay but I agree Jamie it sounds like him coming out is like him trying to switch the focus which is awful and if I were a gay man I think id be uncomfortable with that, like it's understandable to sexual harrass a child because he was hiding being gay? Wut? Hmmm

I think he's been arrested/cautioned before for 'cottaging' in Hyde Park (and maybe other places I don't know, there's a lot of rumours about him, I just remember a friend telling me about the Hyde Park thing when I moved to London and that it was common knowledge :laugh: ) But yeah it's slyly done. He's seen what happened to Weinstein's career so he's trying a different angle, using the gay thing, maybe he thinks he'd get support from the gay community and Hollywood for coming out and that might offset the accusations somewhat? Kinda sickening if that's the case.

It was always kinda known but not said (re: him being gay) but yeah this was a stupid time to come out.

I would say re: Jamie's point that I think it's fairly well-documented that he was also a regular coke user so I don't know if that clouded his judgment/awareness of his actions but that is merely conjecture so I wouldn't really stand on it too solidly... the allegation sounds horrible and, as a big fan of Spacey, it's super disappointing to hear.

I didn't know about that, yeah I suppose that could account for him not remembering, although there's still the inviting him to the party, inviting him to the hotel room, just generally the whole description of it isn't like a quick grope or something, but more planned, I dunno.

Shaun
30-10-2017, 12:55 PM
Oh yeah definitely, it sounds like a face-saving confession. Like "I don't remember it happening but if it happened I'm sorry". Not really an apology.

Jack_
30-10-2017, 01:26 PM
Him being gay was pretty much an open secret a la Louis Walsh, but I remember about a year ago reading Reddit discussions about how he's a notorious predator on set so this doesn't surprise me much

Still disappointing though

Crimson Dynamo
30-10-2017, 01:33 PM
He should have come out as black and gay. If you want to cover up being a dirty perv then go big ffs

Locke.
30-10-2017, 02:11 PM
It's quite concerning how in his apology it totally brushes over the fact it was a child. I think he has probably taken this opportunity to come out because he knows that more stories about him are coming and he's trying to get ahead of it. But yeah... ****ed up. Very disappointing as he was just in the best film of the year (Baby Driver) and House of Cards is great, not to mention a few classics that he stars in.

Smithy
30-10-2017, 02:39 PM
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Family guy been knew

Marsh.
30-10-2017, 02:47 PM
It's kind of odd that on the one hand he doesn't remember anything happening, yet doesn't deny it or somehow try to defend his character against a pretty serious allegation.

He just offers an "apology" and then shifts focus to "yes, I'm gay" which is worrying for two reasons, 1) he thinks the "revelation" that he is gay to the wider public is the more important or serious piece of information and 2) He's not shocked by the accusation of something he doesn't even remember because it was something he was prone to doing quite often anyway, it's just this specific incident he's fuzzy on.

Despicable piece of sh*t either way.

Josy
30-10-2017, 02:49 PM
Quite disgusting the way he tries to brush it off in that statement tbh

Marsh.
30-10-2017, 02:50 PM
"I have a lot of respect and admiration for Anthony Rapp as an actor.

:umm2: But not as a human being?

Amy Jade
30-10-2017, 02:57 PM
'I'm so sorry if I sexually assaulted you. Can't quite remember lol silly me'

Scum.

arista
09-11-2017, 05:11 AM
Kevin Spacey

A Gay man

Written out of USA production Film Directed by Ridley Scott
Christopher Plummer replaces him a re - shooting


Ref: GMBHD itv
Live LA (the Scottish fellow)

arista
09-11-2017, 05:13 AM
Quite disgusting the way he tries to brush it off in that statement tbh



Its getting worse day by day



"Shame on you "
the mother of a Lad

arista
09-11-2017, 05:20 AM
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Family guy been knew


Yes Its old news
to those great writers

arista
09-11-2017, 05:28 AM
I never knew Kevin Spacey was gay but I agree Jamie it sounds like him coming out is like him trying to switch the focus which is awful and if I were a gay man I think id be uncomfortable with that, like it's understandable to sexual harrass a child because he was hiding being gay? Wut? Hmmm


Yes it appears like a Rock Hudson Shocker type
Real news
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Hudson


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Spacey

Vanessa
09-11-2017, 07:36 AM
I always had my suspicions about Kevin Spacey. But trying to seduce underage boys crosses the line. 14 is a child :nono: What's going on in Hollywood? Are all the male actors sleaze bags? :omgno:

Vanessa
09-11-2017, 07:40 AM
Him being gay was pretty much an open secret a la Louis Walsh, but I remember about a year ago reading Reddit discussions about how he's a notorious predator on set so this doesn't surprise me much

Still disappointing though

And he seems to like underage boys :umm2:

James
09-11-2017, 08:41 AM
Kevin Spacey

A Gay man

Written out of USA production Film Directed by Ridley Scott
Christopher Plummer replaces him a re - shooting


Ref: GMBHD itv
Live LA (the Scottish fellow)

This is the film he has been removed from.

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Kazanne
09-11-2017, 08:49 AM
Well he is done for now,i don't think any film producers will touch him.

Niamh.
09-11-2017, 08:57 AM
Well he is done for now,i don't think any film producers will touch him.

I wouldn't be so sure, Casey Affleck won an Oscar just after admitting to and settling with two women he sexually harassed while making another film

Livia
09-11-2017, 10:07 AM
It's worrying when people are being removed from films they've signed to when there is only a claim against them. No evidence, not even an admission. No arrest, no trial.... but he's guilty anyway, right?

I always assumed Kevin Spacey was gay, but it's not really anyone else's business. Using that statement to come out was clumsy... but really, which of these allegations should we believe? And how many more suicides will it take before people are given the right to anonymity before they are charged?

Niamh.
09-11-2017, 10:09 AM
It's worrying when people are being removed from films they've signed to when there is only a claim against them. No evidence, not even an admission. No arrest, no trial.... but he's guilty anyway, right?

I always assumed Kevin Spacey was gay, but it's not really anyone else's business. Using that statement to come out was clumsy... but really, which of these allegations should we believe? And how many more suicides will it take before people are given the right to anonymity before they are charged?

he pretty much admitted it though in his statement.

Livia
09-11-2017, 10:34 AM
he pretty much admitted it though in his statement.

I thought he said he didn't remember doing it, but he could have been drunk and didn't remember it?

Anyhoo... I have a hard time believing Kaiser Soze would do something like that.

Niamh.
09-11-2017, 10:37 AM
I thought he said he didn't remember doing it, but he could have been drunk and didn't remember it?

Anyhoo... I have a hard time believing Kaiser Soze would do something like that.

That's why i said "pretty much" lol I just assume that no one would say they might have done something like that unless they knew they had. We've all been drunk before but I don't think we all think we might be capable of sexually harassing a minor when we were

But yeah it's disappointing if it's true because he is one of my favourite actors aswell

Livia
09-11-2017, 10:42 AM
That's why i said "pretty much" lol I just assume that no one would say they might have done something like that unless they knew they had. We've all been drunk before but I don't think we all think we might be capable of sexually harassing a minor when we were

But yeah it's disappointing if it's true because he is one of my favourite actors aswell

There have been frequent press articles about him hanging out in gay haunts in London. It started soon after he took over at the Old Vic. I think the press have been looking for a hook into him for a while.

Such a shame if it is true. Like you, he's one of my favourite actors. American Beauty... amazing.

Tom4784
09-11-2017, 11:07 AM
Coming out in his statement seemed like a smokescreen to me and the fact that he didn't outright deny it (and then got 'treatment' straight afterwards) is damning. There would probably be legal consequences if Netflix and the other production companies that have since dropped him did so on an allegation with no proof.

bots
09-11-2017, 11:10 AM
i'm quite baffled by Spacey's behaviour since these allegations surfaced. On the one hand, he is not denying them, which is odd given it goes against all legal advice, and on the other hand he is saying he doesn't remember, and to be in a position of not remembering anything, he would need to be close to comatose, which also means he was probably incapable of doing anything.

Next he comes out with he is seeking treatment .... that may have been ok for Michael Douglas, but he hadn't actually done anything considered illegal - consenting adults and all that. It isn't going to get him off the hook if he is guilty, i'm just confused by his thought processes.

Vanessa
09-11-2017, 11:28 AM
I'm baffled by all the allegations of sexual harassment coming out in Hollywood. But I'm so disappointed if this one is true. Always loved Kevin Spacey.
Also shocked by the Harvey Weinstein trying to cover it up. He spent a lot of money trying to stop his accusers. Unbelievable stuff! :shocked:

Locke.
09-11-2017, 12:56 PM
I wouldn't be so sure, Casey Affleck won an Oscar just after admitting to and settling with two women he sexually harassed while making another film

Not defending his supposed actions on the set of that documentary but he never admitted to the stories being true and had a pretty good defence, including emails from one of the victims saying how much they enjoyed working with him and others who worked on the set backing him up. Also just reading it then and most of it seemed to stem from him encouraging others to act inappropriately, rather than him himself.

If all of what they alledge was true then it was very inappropriate and their should have been some repercussions, but I don't think it's as bad as the allegations levelled at Spacey, Seagal, Weinstein, etc.

Niamh.
09-11-2017, 01:02 PM
Not defending his supposed actions on the set of that documentary but he never admitted to the stories being true and had a pretty good defence, including emails from one of the victims saying how much they enjoyed working with him and others who worked on the set backing him up. Also just reading it then and most of it seemed to stem from him encouraging others to act inappropriately, rather than him himself.

If all of what they alledge was true then it was very inappropriate and their should have been some repercussions, but I don't think it's as bad as the allegations levelled at Spacey, Seagal, Weinstein, etc.

I suppose the fact that he settled with them would veer me into thinking they weren't lying, plus I think atleast one of the women quit during filming because of it

Vanessa
09-11-2017, 01:14 PM
I read an article where his brother was talking about their childhoods. Their father was very abusive and they both suffered. He thought that his brother could be just as like his dad. :shocked:

arista
09-11-2017, 04:19 PM
His manager and agent
both dropped him.


He lives in England


House of Cards Dropped by Netflix

Crimson Dynamo
09-11-2017, 04:20 PM
everyone loved GG, Rolf and JS at one time...

arista
09-11-2017, 04:23 PM
everyone loved GG, Rolf and JS at one time...



Very True LT

Barry.
20-11-2017, 10:20 AM
Morrissey: 'Kevin Spacey needlessly attacked over claims'


http://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/celebrity/morrissey-kevin-spacey-needlessly-attacked-over-claims/ar-BBFjNya?li=AA9SkIr&ocid=ientp

Niamh.
20-11-2017, 10:25 AM
Morrissey: 'Kevin Spacey needlessly attacked over claims'


http://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/celebrity/morrissey-kevin-spacey-needlessly-attacked-over-claims/ar-BBFjNya?li=AA9SkIr&ocid=ientp

Nice victim blaming there :/


"Kevin Spacey was 26, the boy 14. In that case, you ask yourself where the parents of the boy were? You ask yourself whether the boy sensed what could happen.

"I don't know how things are with you, but I have never been in situations like these in my youth. Never.

"I was always aware of what could happen. If you're in somebody's bedroom, you need to be aware of where that could lead."

Barry.
20-11-2017, 10:27 AM
doesn't Morrissey like to be "different" a lot? Annoying.

Shaun
20-11-2017, 10:56 AM
that's Morrissey who happens to have released an album last week :rolleyes: past-it old tosser.

bots
20-11-2017, 12:12 PM
Morrissey, not exactly a trust worthy source over the years, or a role model

Tom4784
20-11-2017, 12:38 PM
Morrissey is a hateful **** that tries to be controversial to make up for the fact that his talent has long since ran dry.

James
01-12-2017, 02:44 AM
Kevin Spacey

A Gay man

Written out of USA production Film Directed by Ridley Scott
Christopher Plummer replaces him a re - shooting


Ref: GMBHD itv
Live LA (the Scottish fellow)

This is the film he has been removed from.

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Original trailer.

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New trailer sans Spacey.

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James
01-12-2017, 03:43 AM
Ridley Scott breaks silence on replacing Kevin Spacey in All the Money in the World

Sara Vilkomerson
November 29, 2017 AT 08:00 AM EST

It’s Thanksgiving Day, and Ridley Scott is happy. Just outside London at Hatfield House — a stately 17th-century Jacobean mansion — the cast and crew of Scott’s All the Money in the World have gathered for unprecedented emergency reshoots of key scenes in a race to meet a Dec. 22 release date. It’s the kind of scenario that directors (and studios) tend to avoid at any cost, but one that Scott, TriStar, and Imperative Entertainment did willingly, at a reported cost of $10 million — a quarter of the film’s original reported $40 million budget.

As the crew digs into turkey and pie during a break, Scott, days from turning 80, bounds about with a Tigger-like spring in his step, making last-minute set changes to background vases and photo frames, and cracking jokes with his producers. He sure doesn’t seem stressed. “Are you kidding?” says his wife, Giannina Facio, standing nearby. “He’s thrilled!”

All the Money in the World is a drama based on the sensational true story of the 1973 kidnapping of John Paul Getty III. Paul, as the 16-year-old was called, was the grandson of oil tycoon J. Paul Getty. But Grandpa, one of the richest men on the planet, refused to pay his namesake’s ransom. Paul’s mother (Michelle Williams) is left in a desperate struggle to rescue her son, aided by a Getty fixer and former CIA operative (Mark Wahlberg).


When Scott initially shot the film earlier this year, Oscar winner Kevin Spacey played the hard-hearted mogul. Which leads us back to these urgent reshoots…

On Oct. 29, actor Anthony Rapp (Rent) accused Spacey of making a sexual advance toward him when Rapp was 14 years old. (Spacey, at the time, was 26.) Since then, more than a dozen other men have alleged similar sexual misconduct or assault. (Spacey apologized to Rapp in a statement, but his attorney did not respond to EW’s multiple requests for comment.) This put Scott and his film, which has Academy Award aspirations, in an impossible position. Because audiences would likely punish any Spacey movie — or view it with very different eyes — the film risked box office disaster, to say nothing of dashed Oscar hopes for anyone associated with it.

In response, Scott made a bold decision. On Nov. 8, he announced that he would reshoot all of Spacey’s scenes, replacing him with Christopher Plummer, and still make the December release date. This meant securing original locations and getting key actors, including Williams and Wahlberg, back in front of the camera in London and Rome between Nov. 20 and Nov. 29, Thanksgiving week. But here on set, you won’t find anyone complaining.

“I’m so very proud to be a part of this — we’re all here for Ridley,” says Williams, who recalls being stunned when she learned of the allegations against Spacey. “When this idea was hatched, I immediately started to feel better. This doesn’t do anything to ease the suffering of people who were all too personally affected by Kevin Spacey, but it is our little act of trying to right a wrong. And it sends a message to predators — you can’t get away with this anymore. Something will be done.”

With Hollywood buzzing over Scott’s can he really do it? high-wire act, the director appears delighted with the challenge and with taking a moral stand. He sat down with EW on set to discuss the whirlwind series of events and his decision to do this. “There’s no time for pondering,” he says with a grin. “Sometimes you’ve got to lay down the law. You have to!”



ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Where were you when you first heard about the allegations against Kevin Spacey?
RIDLEY SCOTT: I was finished with the film and was in [U.K. recording studio] Abbey Road finalizing the music. Someone was like: Guess what? And that’s where it began. I sat and thought about it and realized, we cannot. You can’t tolerate any kind of behavior like that. And it will affect the film. We cannot let one person’s action affect the good work of all these other people. It’s that simple.

Had you been happy with Kevin Spacey’s performance?
Totally. He’s a very talented man and I got on very well with him. I had no idea.

What’s the first call you make in a situation like this?
You have to know who you’re going to go for [to recast the role] and if he’s available. Chris [Plummer] was always on the list. So you find that out, but quietly, because you don’t want it going around. I flew into New York and met with [Plummer] and he said yes. So then we had to figure out if everyone else would be available to fit in these new days of shooting. Miraculously, they were. Before you can make the decision you have to make these quick phone calls around — not to the actors directly, but to the agents — saying there’s a possibility I may need some pickups [a.k.a. additional shooting days]. You don’t say why because of the gossip, but of course it was really for something much more significant.

It made big news when it broke.
[Laughs] Yes, I know. It was better to do it like this because once you inform the system, it’s everywhere. Once two people know what it’s about, bang, it’s all out there.

Did you have to call Kevin Spacey and tell him?
No. And he didn’t call me. If he had called me and said, “Hey, look, this is the way it is and I’m really sorry,” then I’d have handled it slightly differently.

If he had called and said all that, do you think you’d still have replaced him?
Yes. I’d have still done it. I would have said, “Yes, thank you for calling, but I have to move on.”

He was well-behaved on your set, I take it?
Well, I don’t know. You never see that. But you can’t condone that kind of behavior in any shape or form.

Have you been surprised by all these revelations coming out of Hollywood?
I think it was about time. Harvey [Weinstein] definitely was way overdue. There will still be a few more people out there gritting their teeth who are way overdue.

What was the studio’s reaction to all this?
They were like, “You’ll never do it. God be with you.” [Laughs]

But they’re holding the date of Dec. 22 for you anyway.
F—ing right.

Did you ever consider pushing the release date to 2018?
No.

Why not?
Because I know I can deliver. [Laughs] I move like lightning. I’m already two scenes ahead. It’s simple! If you know what you’re doing, you don’t need 19 takes. You do one for the actor, one for me. It’s all planned out. When you storyboard, you’ve already pre-filmed the movie in your head — the wide shots, close shots, establishing shots. You’ve gotten some of your weird ideas when you’re quietly sitting, storyboarding by yourself. After a while you learn to trust and listen to your intuition. And I listen to mine. I trust it.

You finish shooting in Rome on Nov. 29. How are you going to get everything finished in time to screen for Academy voters and other awards groups — not to mention the release date?
They’re going to see it. I may have to do a couple of technical things to make it land completely technically, but it’s really already done.

What do you mean?
I’ve done it. I’ve been shooting since Monday [Nov. 20] and in with the editor every night since then. We’re not dealing with celluloid anymore; it’s all digital, and I send [the footage each day] to [editor Claire Simpson] and she cuts it, and I can go in and look after shooting. Everything I’ve shot is already in [the final cut] up through yesterday morning.

When you directed Gladiator, Oliver Reed died during filming. Does this feel more or less challenging?
It’s less of a challenge, actually. With Ollie, I didn’t have anything of him except bits and pieces and I had to reassemble him digitally. This is a real person and I’m simply reshooting the scenes. We’ll finish next week and I’ll go straight into the editing room, but most of it will already be slotted in. We’ll smooth out any wrinkles, and bingo, we’re there.

So what’s going to be the biggest obstacle? Finishing on time?
Nope, I’m fine. I’ve already started recce [British military slang for reconnaissance] on another film. I’d like to do three a year, but we’re going to start the next one in February. I’m not sure if we’re keeping the title because the book is so important, but I’m doing [an adaptation] of The Cartel.

You started your career in advertising; surely you must have thought about how this gambit might serve in generating interest in this film.
Correct. I didn’t do it for that reason, but it never left my mind.

The story of the Getty family really shows how damaging wealth can be.
Sometimes I think being really rich is as bad as being really poor. Because you are facing a void every morning. There’s nothing to do. If you have wealth and no job, you sit there twiddling your thumbs and start drinking at lunchtime. At 4 p.m. you move on to something stronger, and before you know it you’re on to rock & roll. The greatest gift is being passionate about what you do. This [gestures around the set] is a gift for me. I’m busier than I’ve ever been — I’m in the office from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. every day.

And you turn 80 the day after you wrap.
Yeah, but I don’t think about that. It’s a number. Just a bloody number.


http://ew.com/movies/2017/11/29/ridley-scott-kevin-spacey-all-the-money-in-the-world-exclusive/

Good interview.