Owen Jones was Live again on LBC radio Sunday

[arista]

While Naz is on holiday.


A great few hours live on LBC


listen free
http://www.lbc.co.uk/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Jones_(writer)


First talk about back of the line
when the former PM brought in the sad USA President.

[waterhog]

not many things in life are free now a days arista

[arista]

Thats why LBC is better than the BBC
hog.

mute the ads

[Oliver_W]

Urgh, I don't think I could cope with 2-3 hours of Own Jones sperging on. What's his show actually like?

[arista]

Urgh, I don't think I could cope with 2-3 hours of Own Jones sperging on. What's his show actually like?


Pretty good
on the 2nd hour
he was on about Homophobia
he wanted everyone to speak on it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh he is talking about homophobia

now there is a fkng surprise

ffs

:facepalm:

[Oliver_W]

What is there to even say about that? No-one really cares these days, as far as I know there's been no incidents, so what was he whinging about?

[joeysteele]

Love listening to Owen.
Really bright guy full of interesting info and facts.

[Brillopad]

The jumped-up twit is a total bore. Same old speil from someone who thinks his opinion is more relevant than others because he is a journalist. Self-absorbed bore.

[Crimson Dynamo]

he is a typical identifior of problems

the easiest game in town

it sounds great but he has no solutions in the REAL world

hence he isnt in any position to do anything

an empty vessel

[Kizzy]

He lives in the real world, do you think he lives in a make believe world?..

Social commentary on contemporary issues is interesting, you aren't forced to listen there must be some old UKIP rants from 2015 you could amuse yourself with?
:smug:

[DemolitionRed]

Owen Jones, the man who fights against the demonization of the working class. Wrote a book ‘Chavs’ and won awards for that book in both New York and the UK before donating half his winnings to a campaign geared to stop cuts for disabled people.

Owen Jones, the man who stood up and made reasonable argument against austerity.
Fought for the LGBT community.
Defended Muslims and attacked the rise of Islamophobia.
Stood up against some left wing anti-Semitic opinions
and who remains a staunch critic against Trump.

No surprise that some people here can’t stand him. What a dreadful man! :fist:

[Crimson Dynamo]

the "working class"


:joker:


it stopped existing in like the 70s

[Oliver_W]

People who live paycheck to paycheck exist ... but it's hard to make the case for poverty when people on council estates have the same phone as Simon Cowell.

Either way, Owen Jones is a bit insufferable. I wonder how easy it would be for an LBC caller to make him have a sissy fit and storm off, like he did on Sky News.

[bots]

the guy is a complete knob

[joeysteele]

He knows his stuff and makes valid points,even when on question time,that catches the politicians out.

I watched his walking out at Sky news,he was on with that insufferable Julia Hartley Brewer woman.

He was rightly furious and offended at the line taken by the presenter and Brewer.
He was right to leave the ignorant pair to it.
I applauded him doing so.

[Brillopad]

Owen Jones, the man who fights against the demonization of the working class. Wrote a book ‘Chavs’ and won awards for that book in both New York and the UK before donating half his winnings to a campaign geared to stop cuts for disabled people.

Owen Jones, the man who stood up and made reasonable argument against austerity.
Fought for the LGBT community.
Defended Muslims and attacked the rise of Islamophobia.
Stood up against some left wing anti-Semitic opinions
and who remains a staunch critic against Trump.

No surprise that some people here can’t stand him. What a dreadful man! :fist:


Islamophobia - that over-used, tired old made-up word once again. Snore.

No possible career benefits for himself then - just a charitable guy. :joker:

[Oliver_W]

Islamophobia - that over-used, tired old made-up word once again. Snore.

No possible career benefits for himself then - just a charitable guy. :joker:

How would defending muslims help a gay guy? He's a twat but I should think that came from ideals rather than personal gain.

[arista]

the "working class"


:joker:


it stopped existing in like the 70s


Yes in His book "Chavs"

[Parmy]

Owen jones has issues, probably with his father.

[DemolitionRed]

the "working class"


:joker:


it stopped existing in like the 70s

Really? so who's doing all the manual work?

[DemolitionRed]

Islamophobia - that over-used, tired old made-up word once again. Snore.

No possible career benefits for himself then - just a charitable guy. :joker:

Tired old made up word? all words came from somewhere. The human language evolves continually. What word should we give to people who hate Muslims... all new ideas will be gratefully received.

[Oliver_W]

Tired old made up word? all words came from somewhere. The human language evolves continually. What word should we give to people who hate Muslims... all new ideas will be gratefully received.

What word should we use to describe people who hate Christians?

Whether or not we need a word for people who dislike muslims, "Islamophobia" isn't the best word, as a dislike of islam as an ideology isn't exactly irration.

[Brillopad]

How would defending muslims help a gay guy? He's a twat but I should think that came from ideals rather than personal gain.

Maybe the twat wants a sainthood! Whatever, his ‘ideals’ are getting him a lot of publicity. Can’t keep his ugly mug out of the limelight.

[Brillopad]

What word should we use to describe people who hate Christians?

Whether or not we need a word for people who dislike muslims, "Islamophobia" isn't the best word, as a dislike of islam as an ideology isn't exactly irration.

Indeed it is not. The day we have a word for the hate of each and every religion rather than giving such a ‘honour’ to one particular religion is the day the word might, just might, carry any credence. Until then it is an over-used, tired old nothing word used by drama queens.

[DemolitionRed]

What word should we use to describe people who hate Christians?


anti-Semite?



Whether or not we need a word for people who dislike muslims, "Islamophobia" isn't the best word, as a dislike of islam as an ideology isn't exactly irration.

We need some sort of word to describe a person who homes in their hate on a specific religion. Hitler and Nazi Germany claimed they were anti-semite and yet semitic religions are Christianity, Judaism and Islam. In fact any religion with origins in the Middle East and who only believe in one God are semitic; therefore, a Muslim can not be anti-semite and neither can a Christian. Hitler simply hated the Jewish ideology, just as people today hate the Islamic ideology. If you look through our history books, most religions have suffered persecution at some point or other due to their ideology.

Hating Islam is no different than hating Jews.

[Brillopad]

anti-Semite?



We need some sort of word to describe a person who homes in their hate on a specific religion. Hitler and Nazi Germany claimed they were anti-semite and yet semitic religions are Christianity, Judaism and Islam. In fact any religion with origins in the Middle East and who only believe in one God are semitic; therefore, a Muslim can not be anti-semite and neither can a Christian. Hitler simply hated the Jewish ideology, just as people today hate the Islamic ideology. If you look through our history books, most religions have suffered persecution at some point or other due to their ideology.

Hating Islam is no different than hating Jews.

I think there is a world of difference between having no time for the ideologies of a given religion and what the Nazis did to the Jews. Any such comparison in itself is ludicrous and unworthy of being given the time of day.

[DemolitionRed]

Indeed it is not. The day we have a word for the hate of each and every religion rather than giving such a ‘honour’ to one particular religion is the day the word might, just might, carry any credence. Until then it is an over-used, tired old nothing word used by drama queens.

Who is giving any particular religion, apart from their own, 'honor'? To defend a religion, even when that religion isn't your own, could be seen as honorable, though more likely, they just can't get their head around the negativity some people constantly spew out.

[DemolitionRed]

I think there is a world of difference between having no time for the ideologies of a given religion and what the Nazis did to the Jews. Any such comparison in itself is ludicrous and unworthy of being given the time of day.

Everything starts with a grain of salt. Fear is the seed from which hate grows.

[Brillopad]

Who is giving any particular religion, apart from their own, 'honor'? To defend a religion, even when that religion isn't your own, could be seen as honorable, though more likely, they just can't get their head around the negativity some people constantly spew out.

Negativity! Islamophobia is one such loaded negative word intended to insult, offend and intimidate anyone that calls out a hypocritical religion that preaches and practices a fair bit of hate towards other groups of people. We are all free to call a spade a spade.

How about femaleophobia, gayophobia, jewophobia to name but a few.

[Oliver_W]

anti-Semite?



We need some sort of word to describe a person who homes in their hate on a specific religion. Hitler and Nazi Germany claimed they were anti-semite and yet semitic religions are Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

Then I guess we don't need the word Islamophobe, because anti-Semite would cover hatred toward muslims.

[Withano]

Stop taking words so literally says this guy

A very quick Google explains that the Greek word (phobia) loosely translates to 'an aversion to', and has many non-clinical uses which describe a dislike, prejudice or disapproval.

[Withano]

How about gayophobia.

In tears. How did you write this and not question it.

[Brillopad]

Stop taking words so literally says this guy

As I said femaleophobia, gayophobia and Jewophobia. You really can’t apply the use of the word phobia to one type of disapproval and not another. It’s all or nothing.

[Brillopad]

In tears. How did you write this and not question it.

How is it any more ridiculous than Islamophobia - explain your logic.

[Withano]

How is it any more ridiculous than Islamophobia - explain your logic.

never change.

[Brillopad]

never change.

Thought so.

[Withano]

As I said femaleophobia, gayophobia and Jewophobia.

Okay but only because this is a bit sad

Gynophobia, homophobia*, and judeophobia are all words, brillo

*I mean come on gayophobia, youre not even trying haha.

[Brillopad]

Okay but only because this is a bit sad

Gynophobia, homophobia*, and judeophobia are all words, brillo

*I mean come on gayophobia, youre not even trying haha.

How convenient they never get mentioned by all the Islam defenders.

[Withano]

How convenient they never get mentioned by all the Islam defenders.

You need a nap

[Brillopad]

You need a nap

You need to stop googling.

[Withano]

You need to stop googling.

I will when you start ;)

[Oliver_W]

Stop taking words so literally says this guy

Even then, an aversion to the ideology of islam is pretty reasonable, hating on the average muslim is not. I'd have less issue if it was Muslimphobia rather than Islamophobia.

[DemolitionRed]

Then I guess we don't need the word Islamophobe, because anti-Semite would cover hatred toward muslims.

That's right, though it could cause confusion. That's the word I'll be using from now on.

[Kizzy]

Me too, although I don't see it as confusion but ignorance. If you point that out however there is suggestions of levels of offence felt similar to that at a 'we are PC' conference :laugh:

[DemolitionRed]

Me too, although I don't see it as confusion but ignorance. If you point that out however there is suggestions of levels of offence felt similar to that at a 'we are PC' conference :laugh:

:joker:

[Brillopad]

Me too, although I don't see it as confusion but ignorance. If you point that out however there is suggestions of levels of offence felt similar to that at a 'we are PC' conference :laugh:

It takes one to know one don't you know. :hehe:

[Kizzy]

It takes one to know one don't you know. :hehe:

I know... Do you think it offends me that you accuse me of being PC? let it be known it doesn't anymore in fact I've become immensely proud of the fact.


I wear it like a badge of honour, I parade it as proudly as others wear their sense of entitlement or privilege