Song choices confirmed - Grace is Performing Roots

[Denver]

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[caprimint]

She just won the show :clap1:

[Jase.]

she ain't winning lol

[caprimint]

she ain't winning lol
The others don't stand a chance against "Roots"

[Jase.]

The others don't stand a chance against "Roots"

Producers REALLY want Rat-Su to win which means they need Grace gone.

They've probably encouraged Grace to perform Roots as her Sunday winner's single, but will aim to have her out on the Saturday. They will achieve this by getting Kevin to duet with Nicole who will ensure progression through to Sunday, presumably at the expense of Grace who will have saved her ultimate weapon for the Sunday. Therefore Rak-Su won't be up against Roots and will secure the win unless Kevin can pick up lots of casual votes in this one-on-one vote.

[Denver]

Producers REALLY want Rat-Su to win which means they need Grace gone.

They've probably encouraged Grace to perform Roots as her Sunday winner's single, but will aim to have her out on the Saturday. They will achieve this by getting Kevin to duet with Nicole who will ensure progression through to Sunday, presumably at the expense of Grace who will have saved her ultimate weapon for the Sunday. Therefore Rak-Su won't be up against Roots and will secure the win unless Kevin can pick up lots of casual votes in this one-on-one vote.

Kevin aint making the final 2
Rak-su are rumoured to have the least famous duet
Grace had the best reaction at homecoming

[Jase.]

lmao if Kevin gets Nicole, he'll obvs be in the final 2

[Denver]

He has odds of 9/1 winning and acts have not won because of Nicole

[Jase.]

Odds don't mean ****, as proved by what happened last year :joker:

As for Nicole not winning for other acts, I mean tell Sam Bailey and Matt Terry that...

[Jase.]

It's DELUSIONAL to say Nicole didn't win it for Matt after performing Purple Rain last year

[Denver]

Sam Bailey was odds on favourite to win and was alwys going to win and Matt took the Teenage girl/Brexit vote hence

[Denver]

It's DELUSIONAL to say Nicole didn't win it for Matt after performing Purple Rain last year

Yet Saara topped the Saturday nights voting

[Jase.]

lol keep deluding yourself. you ain't seeing your fave perform Roots because she ain't even gonna be there on Sunday night hun

[Denver]

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[Denver]

lol keep deluding yourself. you ain't seeing your fave perform Roots because she ain't even gonna be there on Sunday night hun

Yet they have confirmed she is singing it tomorrow night

[Jase.]

I'm happy for you then! It's just a shame it won't win it for her

[Denver]

Roots is the most loved song this series

[Jase.]

It's bland?

[Denver]

Its really not

[Jase.]

"Roots is really bland though. Pretty much every other one of her originals have been superior."

"Yeah I agree! That was her worst original (well, maybe after her judges houses one), audition was such a bore. The ones she did on the first week of the Lives & the one just gone were her best imo."

I agree!

[Denver]

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[Denver]

Not even that won him the prize fight

[Jase.]

Fastlove? YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS! Kevin winner confirmed then!

[Denver]

Kevin has no chance of winning

[Jase.]

Nor does Grace :joker:

[Denver]

Clearly does she has statically the best chance

[caprimint]

lmao if Kevin gets Nicole, he'll obvs be in the final 2
Duets don't really matter unless it's Ed Sheeran tbh

[Jase.]

:joker: :joker:

You harp on about statistics while Kevin sails through by performing a haunting rendition of a George Michael classic!

[Jase.]

I mean, I like Grace, I'd love her to win over Rat-Su, but it's just never going to happen

[caprimint]

Think it will be:
1) Grace
2) Rak-Su
3) Kevin

[Denver]

Rak-su will struggle with a 24 hour vote the casual voters wont get behind them and boybands never do well only once has a boyband made top 2

[Jase.]

Producers giving Rat-Su the special treatment by having them perform TWO originals I see :laugh2:

[Jase.]

Rak-su will struggle with a 24 hour vote the casual voters wont get behind them and boybands never do well only once has a boyband made top 2

here's hoping hun x

[caprimint]

I mean, I like Grace, I'd love her to win over Rat-Su, but it's just never going to happen
There's never any certainty with shows like this that depend entirely on song choices and performances. After you know these or have seen them you can make a valid statement, until then it's all ****.

[Denver]

Rak-su only appeal to teenagers Grace will appeal to everyone

[caprimint]

My nan's favourite is Grace btw

[caprimint]

And usually my nan would support people like Kevin so

[Jase.]

I don't think he'll win but Kev will defo get the housewife vote

EDIT: No, I do think he can win. I think it all comes down to the duets this year and how everybody performs on the night

[Denver]

if the of a P!nk/Grace duet then there is no point in the others arriving

[Jase.]

Watch them shove Grace with somebody like Anne-Marie

I liked the Birdy rumour which was floating around. Them two performing Wings together gives me goosebumps just thinking about it tbh

[Denver]

If the Dido rumour is true then that would be fantastic

[Denver]

Birdy suits Kevin more

[LukeB]

Anyone could win out of the 3 this series, song choices and duets are important.

All 3 have topped the vote more than once.

Screaming, Grace and Kevin had their fans at their homecoming but rak su got booed at theirs because they were at a football ground so the producers are going to make out they were there for them but they wasn’t.

[Jase.]

rat-su got booed? OMG WAT :laugh2:

[caprimint]

Anyone could win out of the 3 this series, song choices and duets are important.

All 3 have topped the vote more than once.

Screaming, Grace and Kevin had their fans at their homecoming but rak su got booed at theirs because they were at a football ground so the producers are going to make out they were there for them but they wasn’t.
Have they released this information? :suspect:

[Denver]

Have they released this information? :suspect:

Yes they started doing it weekly telling us who won each night then on Sunday a sing off between the 2 for a prize

[caprimint]

Yes they started doing it weekly telling us who won each night then on Sunday a sing off between the 2 for a prize
Ohhhh wow I didn't know this. Has anyone got a list of the top vote getter each week?

[Jase.]

Just read a digitalspy article - some guy has bet £5,000 on Rat-Su winning. Grim

[caprimint]

Was thinking about placing £10 on Grace winning, a nice £30 bonus

[Denver]

Ohhhh wow I didn't know this. Has anyone got a list of the top vote getter each week?

Week 1 - Grace vs Rak-su

Grace won the prize to meet Pink

week 2 - Kevin vs Rak-su

Kevin won a chance to write a song with one of the best song writers

week 3 - Lloyd vs Kevin

Lloyd won the prize fight to open for Little Mix in Manchester

week 4 Rak-su vs Grace

Rak-su won the chance to record a song

we dont know the semi's

[LukeB]

rat-su got booed? OMG WAT :laugh2:

Yes :skull:
Man u fans. Imagine having a homecoming with people who aren’t there for them:joker:

[Ross.]

Erm why are they performing their song of the series tomorrow and not Sunday

Are duets on Sunday now?

And why have Rak-Su been allowed to repeat two performances :skull:

[Jase.]

Yes :skull:
Man u fans. Imagine having a homecoming with people who aren’t there for them:joker:

omg can we get some man u fans smuggled into the arena or something :skull:

[Denver]

Erm why are they performing their song of the series tomorrow and not Sunday

Are duets on Sunday now?

And why have Rak-Su been allowed to repeat two performances :skull:

Only 2 make the sunday so im not sure they would sign up 3 people to tell one of them Saturday night your not welcome

[LukeB]

Ohhhh wow I didn't know this. Has anyone got a list of the top vote getter each week?

Week 1 - Grace and Rak Su - Grace won prize
Week 2 - Rak su and Kevin - Kevin Won Prize
Week 3 - Kevin and Lloyd - Lloyd Won Prize
Week 4 - Grace and Rak-Sun- Rak-Su won prize

They didnt do the prize thing last week so we have no idea who topped the vote

[Jase.]

I'm actually forgetting the fact Kevin and Grace have at one point beat Rat-Su in these prize fights

Hmmm

[LukeB]

omg can we get some man u fans smuggled into the arena or something :skull:

Here for it

[Ross.]

Only 2 make the sunday so im not sure they would sign up 3 people to tell one of them Saturday night your not welcome

So what is happening, 3 performances each tomorrow and 1 on Sunday? :skull:

[caprimint]

Week 1 - Grace vs Rak-su

Grace won the prize to meet Pink

week 2 - Kevin vs Rak-su

Kevin won a chance to write a song with one of the best song writers

week 3 - Lloyd vs Kevin

Lloyd won the prize fight to open for Little Mix in Manchester

week 4 Rak-su vs Grace

Rak-su won the chance to record a song

we dont know the semi's
Thank you :flowers:

Hmm, judging by that it'll be close and will definitely depend on songs, no outright obvious winner.


And why have Rak-Su been allowed to repeat two performances :skull:
It's not better for them tbh, reprisals can only be so good

[LukeB]

Erm why are they performing their song of the series tomorrow and not Sunday

Are duets on Sunday now?

And why have Rak-Su been allowed to repeat two performances :skull:

I assume they are keeping the duets a secret today?

[Ross.]

I assume they are keeping the duets a secret today?

But those tweets suggest they’re singing both of those songs tomorrow :skull:

[LukeB]

I'm actually forgetting the fact Kevin and Grace have at one point beat Rat-Su in these prize fights

Hmmm

It took 3 times for Rak Su to win :hehe:

[Ross.]

It's not better for them tbh, reprisals can only be so good

Very true, they reprised their audition (which I liked) last week and for me it fell flat

[LukeB]

Live and let die must be a duet? It’s doesn’t seem like a song for Grace

[Denver]

Also Rak-su picked 2 songs that sound the exact same

[Denver]

Live and let die must be a duet? It’s doesn’t seem like a song for Grace

Paul McCartney would win i for her

[LukeB]

Pink and Grace on the trapeze singing live and let die?

[Ross.]

Live and let die must be a duet? It’s doesn’t seem like a song for Grace

NOT a guest artist singing a Rak-Su original

[Jase.]

god I'd ****ing scream with happiness if Rat-Su don't win. it's just SO obvious how much Cowell and the producers want them to :skull:

[Jase.]

I wish they'd officially confirm the duets - that'll give us a much better understanding of who may or may not win

[Denver]

I wish they'd officially confirm the duets - that'll give us a much better understanding of who may or may not win

He tried it with the likes of Fluer and 1D and failed

[LukeB]

I wish they'd officially confirm the duets - that'll give us a much better understanding of who may or may not win

Past two winners had a duet with their mentor (Rita and Nicole)

Post golden era (little mix to matt) every winner except Ben did a duet with a mentor.

[LukeB]

Paul McCartney would win i for her

Ozzy Osbourne too?

[Jase.]

Ozzy Osbourne too?

:joker:

[Denver]

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Not the scam

[Denver]

Mess at Simon confirming on This Morning he is struggling to get stars

[Jase.]

:skull:

Honey G/Grace
Wagner/Kevin
Four of Diamonds/Rat-Su

All confirmed?

[Jase.]

Cowell looks older back then than he does now?

[Denver]

Cowell looks older back then than he does now?

Botox

[supertv247]

Sundays Final is 35 minutes shorter than last years Sundays final so perhaps that’s where they’ll be doing their ‘song of the series’ on Saturday now instead. So perhaps a new song on Saturday, a reprised song and a duet? The another song on Sunday plus the winners song? Idk, maybe they’ll eliminate somebody on Saturday before the top 2 the. sing their song of the series or something

[supertv247]

Also find it weird that RakSu are reprising two songs instead of one new and one old like every series of the X Factor has had

[LukeB]

Also find it weird that RakSu are reprising two songs instead of one new and one old like every series of the X Factor has had

They ran out ideas?

[supertv247]

Wait I e just watched RakSu on Lorraine say their winners single is an original and that it could be their duet

So they’ve wrote a song, and are going to have someone like Craig David sing it with them, then release it as their winners single? Wtaf

[Jase.]

vile bastards

[Denver]

So here for Grace and P!nk duet stealing the Xmas #1

[Denver]

Apparently Roots, Fast Love and Mamacita are reserved for the final and they will only do a new song and a duet tomorrow

[Jase.]

I think Kevin will get through if he's with Nicole

Which means Grace vs. Rat-Su. Here's hoping she gets somebody good to collab with because I can't imagine Craig David is gonna pick up a lot of votes for that lot

[Denver]

Nicole will harm Kevin's chances he isnt a pop singer he needs a rock/indie artist

[Black Dagger]

The Grace love in on the first page :unm2:

[Denver]

The Grace love in on the first page :unm2:

Talent did that

[LukeB]

I think Kevin will get through if he's with Nicole

Which means Grace vs. Rat-Su. Here's hoping she gets somebody good to collab with because I can't imagine Craig David is gonna pick up a lot of votes for that lot

Which means you have to hope Grace gets more votes than Rak-Su. Grace and Kevin would really be the best final 2 ever imo. Rak su are bores and the obvious winners and this show needs a shock

[Ross.]

Nicole will harm Kevin's chances he isnt a pop singer he needs a rock/indie artist

Don’t be silly Nicole can do anything

[Denver]

Don’t be silly Nicole can do anything

Apart from have a successful solo career?

[Shaun]

Which means you have to hope Grace gets more votes than Rak-Su. Grace and Kevin would really be the best final 2 ever imo. Rak su are bores and the obvious winners and this show needs a shock

in what world is 'Grace wins the X Factor' a shock? lmao she's the safest most boring act of the three.

[supertv247]

Raksu have sung Into You twice and will have sung Mamacita & Dimelo 3 times each. Talk about milking it. I'm so bored of them already

[Denver]

in what world is 'Grace wins the X Factor' a shock? lmao she's the safest most boring act of the three.

you mean Rak-su who mime and sing the same song every week?

[Shaun]

yes adam, clearly.

[LukeB]

in what world is 'Grace wins the X Factor' a shock? lmao she's the safest most boring act of the three.

Because Rak su are the obvious favourites by the producers. Grace and Kevin winning over them will be a shock. Lmao at calling Grace the most boring when you like Rak Su who does the same thing each week with their music sounding the same :joker:

[LukeB]

Raksu have sung Into You twice and will have sung Mamacita & Dimelo 3 times each. Talk about milking it. I'm so bored of them already

One trick ponies will always be one trick ponies

Rak su are playing it safe out of the 3. Now that is what you call boring.

[Jase.]

lmfao we ACTUALLY have rat-su fans here? :skull:

[Denver]

The cat ladies thankfully wont let them win

[supertv247]

If Raksu rob us of hearing Grace reprise Roots live :fist:

[Shaun]

Because Rak su are the obvious favourites by the producers. Grace and Kevin winning over them will be a shock. Lmao at calling Grace the most boring when you like Rak Su who does the same thing each week with their music sounding the same :joker:

She's won the "night" vote like three times, though? Still unsure how it'd be a shock.

And forgive me for liking popstars that can actually perform. :pipe: enjoy her P!nk B-sides I guess.

[Denver]

She's won the "night" vote like three times, though? Still unsure how it'd be a shock.

And forgive me for liking popstars that can actually perform. :pipe: enjoy her P!nk B-sides I guess.

you must have missed her performance at the weekend

[Denver]

Rak-su dance like they **** their pants

[Jase.]

rat-su can perform? they dad dance and mime............

[LukeB]

She's won the "night" vote like three times, though? Still unsure how it'd be a shock.

And forgive me for liking popstars that can actually perform. :pipe: enjoy her P!nk B-sides I guess.

Two times actually :hee: everyone expects rak su to win thats why it would be a shock

Lol at ‘pop stars’ those days are over. But enjoy one trick ponies who play it safe i guess

[supertv247]

I've actually looked back, and people who sing upbeat in the final NEVER win. Saara singing Oh So Quiet, Fleur done Uptown Funk, Reggie N Bollie, Marcus Collins, Cher Lloyd, Olly Murs etc all done something upbeat so bye at Raksu's chances of winning

[Denver]

I've actually looked back, and people who sing upbeat in the final NEVER win. Saara singing Oh So Quiet, Fleur done Uptown Funk, Reggie N Bollie, Marcus Collins, Cher Lloyd, Olly Murs etc all done something upbeat so bye at Raksu's chances of winning

Grace did that?

[caprimint]

Not sure about Rak-Su's performing skills, but Grace can certainly perform and sing, so I'm not sure where this is heading

[LukeB]

I've actually looked back, and people who sing upbeat in the final NEVER win. Saara singing Oh So Quiet, Fleur done Uptown Funk, Reggie N Bollie, Marcus Collins, Cher Lloyd, Olly Murs etc all done something upbeat so bye at Raksu's chances of winning

I actually think Kevin will win now which is okay because Kevin is more talented than Rak Su and is more of an artist.

From little mix to Matt all the winners except Ben they have done a duet with a judge.

[Jase.]

I need Kev and our Joe to win

https://i.imgur.com/HOp5f7B.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uLCM3Ur.jpg
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[Jase.]

I actually think Kevin will win now which is okay because Kevin is more talented than Rak Su and is more of an artist.

From little mix to Matt all the winners except Ben they have done a duet with a judge.

please god let this happen!!!!

[Denver]

You just lost alot of money

[LukeB]

Not sure about Rak-Su's performing skills, but Grace can certainly perform and sing, so I'm not sure where this is heading

She has done it all, slow song and uptempo. She has taken risks and this live and let die is a massive risk. So boring she is not.

[Jase.]

You just lost alot of money

yeah probably to rak-su which hurts even more x

[Denver]

In my heart i know Grace will finish 2nd just like my favourite for the last 3 series

[LukeB]

Saara Aalto the star of 2016 should have done live and let die at the finals :(

[Jase.]

SO tempted to put a bit of money on rat-su being booted out first

[LukeB]

SO tempted to put a bit of money on rat-su being booted out first

Bet on Alexandra winning SCD

[Jase.]

Saara Aalto the star of 2016 should have done live and let die at the finals :(

can't believe she isn't representing us at next years eurovision :(

[Denver]

Ive only ever wanted 3 winners in the last 15 or whatever many years

[Jase.]

Bet on Alexandra winning SCD

yeah I'm tempted tbh. Especially seeing as though she has a Charleston tomorrow which she's obviously going to do amazing with

But I had a feeling from week 3/4 that Joe was gonna win so I shoved 30 quid on him. I'm glad I did because he's now fave with some bookies

[Ross.]

Saara Aalto the star of 2016 should have done live and let die at the finals :(

If Saara’s duet was with Nicole she would’ve won

Fact!

[LukeB]

can't believe she isn't representing us at next years eurovision :(

It’s better she isn’t because she would do better representing Finland than the Uk. </3

She won since Strictly’s pro dancer Anton has an album out and its outselling Matt Terry.

[Denver]

If Saara’s duet was with Nicole she would’ve won

Fact!

False

[LukeB]

If Saara’s duet was with Nicole she would’ve won

Fact!

Confirmed?
“Get behind your own” wouldn’t have been a comment from her as well?

[Ross.]

False

You’re delusional honey

[supertv247]

Saara would've won if she'd just sung Purple Rain with Adam

[Ross.]

Confirmed?
“Get behind your own” wouldn’t have been a comment from her as well?

Lmao that was a mess

2016 Nicole was so bad but she’s been great this year

[Denver]

Matt won because of Brexit and him being portrayed as a hunk although his face is ****ed up and he is fat

[Jase.]

Matt won because of Brexit and him being portrayed as a hunk although his face is ****ed up and he is fat

what a charmer you are!

[Denver]

what a charmer you are!

Well im known for my honesty he destroyed the series the spiteful git

[Jase.]

Well im known for my honesty he destroyed the series the spiteful git

"his face is ****ed up and he is fat" isn't very nice hun. be honest, not mean x

[LukeB]

Lmao that was a mess

2016 Nicole was so bad but she’s been great this year

She was nominated for villian of the year on my RTV awards

She is better this series tbf

[supertv247]

Flash votes are different from overnight votes and I feel like Raksu are the type to drop in percentage overnight compared to a 5 minute window where they've got 'hype'

So basically I think if Raksu make top 2, they'll fall to second place overnight (or fall further from 1st)

[Jase.]

Flash votes are different from overnight votes and I feel like Raksu are the type to drop in percentage overnight compared to a 5 minute window where they've got 'hype'

you're getting my hopes up!

[supertv247]

you're getting my hopes up!

I'm trying my hardest to convince myself Raksu can't win

[Jack_]

Matt overtook Saara and won on the Sunday because he took all of 5AM's votes when they came third

Anyway, this is the most open final I can remember but I'm still leaning towards a Kevin win which is crazy considering the lives began with a glaringly obvious winner in Grace. If Kevin has Nicole for his duet, I think that seals it

This may change depending on performances but right now I'm thinking:

1) Kevin
2) Rak-Su
3) Grace

[LukeB]

The Grace votes will go to Kevin if she is eliminated first, Kevin will win.

[Jase.]

these "kev is gonna win" predictions are giving me a boner tbh

[LukeB]

these "kev is gonna win" predictions are giving me a boner tbh

I have the same feeling about kevin winning as i did with isabelle and sarah :smug:

[Denver]

Grace has won end of

[caprimint]

Matt won because of Brexit and him being portrayed as a hunk although his face is ****ed up and he is fat
:nono:

Matt is gorgeous and was the best singer

[supertv247]

Grace / Kevin votes will shift to each other depending on who's eliminated on Saturday. If that's Raksu, I honestly won't be able to call it between Grace & Kevin

[Denver]

Me on sunday night when Grace is named the winner

http://i.imgur.com/Bx3keRh.gif

[Jase.]

Grace / Kevin votes will shift to each other depending on who's eliminated on Saturday. If that's Raksu, I honestly won't be able to call it between Grace & Kevin

Surely Kev? Housewife vote will go to him

[mizzy25]

Rak-su only appeal to teenagers Grace will appeal to everyone
Im 50 and I love Rak Su

[Jase.]

Im 50 and I love Rak Su

oh dear!

[RileyH]

He might not but Kevin is the only one that deserves to win imho

[caprimint]

Surely Kev? Housewife vote will go to him
The 'housewife' vote doesn't rule. If it did then Little Mix wouldn't have won and Nicholas McDonald would have (those are just the first two examples that came to my mind).

[Jase.]

The 'housewife' vote doesn't rule. If it did then Little Mix wouldn't have won and Nicholas McDonald would have (those are just the first two examples that came to my mind).

Er yeah, that's why I'm sure Rat-Su will win

[Withano]

I would love Grace to win, but it just seems hard to believe when you look at Rak Su all over the iTunes chart. I think theyve won this pretty safely.

[Denver]

I would love Grace to win, but it just seems hard to believe when you look at Rak Su all over the iTunes chart. I think theyve won this pretty safely.

They dont even have 1 of the top 3 most viewed videos of the season but Grace does

[Withano]

They dont even have 1 of the top 3 most viewed videos of the season but Grace does

Yeh, they just seem consistently more popular, way more people have bought music off them than the other two combined. I'm sure their total view count on YouTube would be highest too but i cba to try and prove that.

[Denver]

They will not succeed in a vote that lasts longer than 10 mins

[caprimint]

Er yeah, that's why I'm sure Rat-Su will win
I mean it will simply come down to the 'casual viewers' vote at the end of the day, so it'll be whoever gives the most consistent performances, possibly mixed with who is the most pimped

[supertv247]

They will not succeed in a vote that lasts longer than 10 mins

That’s what I think too, if hey win Saturday night I’m certain they’ll fall back like Saara did.

[Jase.]

But haven't Rat-Su won flash votes before? :/

[Denver]

But haven't Rat-Su won flash votes before? :/

They have only won flash votes they haven't won long votes