View Full Version : Disney set to buy 21st Century Fox [Update: Deal completed]
James
14-12-2017, 04:40 AM
Deal would mean Disney owning 20th Century Fox film studio, Sky (39%) and 50% of Endemol.
Fox News, Fox Sports and local Fox TV stations in US wouldn't be included because of US government anti-monopoly rules.
Disney set to seal $60bn 21st Century Fox takeover
By Chris Johnston
13 December 2017
Walt Disney is close to confirming a deal to buy 21st Century Fox's entertainment assets for about $60bn, reports say.
The sale would include the 20th Century Fox film studio and the Sky and Star satellite broadcasters in the UK, Europe and Asia.
Disney was left as the front runner after Comcast, the NBC owner, dropped out of the race on Monday.
The Financial Times said talks about the price were continuing on Tuesday.
CNBC reported that Fox and Disney were on a "glide path" for an announcement on Thursday, according to people familiar with the negotiations.
The Murdoch family was said to favour a deal with Disney because it would rather be paid in the entertainment giant's shares than Comcast stock.
A deal with Disney could also face fewer US regulatory hurdles, although it is extremely unlikely to be waved through.
Also in question is what will happen to 21st Century Fox's bid to buy the 61% of Sky that it does not already own.
The deal is already under scrutiny by the UK Competition and Markets Authority (CMA), which is expected to publish its provisional findings in January.
It is not clear whether Disney will continue with the takeover if it buys the 39% stake from 21st Century Fox as part of the wider transaction.
Matthew Horsman, analyst at Mediatique, told Variety magazine that the CMA is likely to continue probing the deal. "They've done all the work. I'm pretty sure they're going to announce a decision," he said.
The assets being sold by Fox include its FX and National Geographic cable channels, 22 regional US sports networks and the company's stake in the Hulu streaming platform in the US.
It would also add to Disney's extensive film and television library, with movies such as Avatar and Deadpool, as well as small screen hits including The Simpsons and Modern Family.
The Fox broadcast network, Fox News and Fox Sports would remain under the Murdochs' control.
As well as its film studio, Disney also owns the ESPN sports network and cable channels.
Mr Murdoch's decision to sell most of Fox has surprised many commentators given his desire to continually expand his media empire over the past five decades.
Talks were understood to have been held between the two companies in November but did not result in an agreement.
Negotiations then restarted earlier this month.
Shares in Disney rose 0.5% in New York on Tuesday, valuing the company at $162bn, while 21st Century Fox added 1%, valuing it at $62.6bn.
Fox shares have jumped by close to a third over the past three months.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42333452
http://img.youtube.com/vi/0pp6MA0eMOA/mqdefault.jpg
Scarlett.
14-12-2017, 08:36 AM
Disney pls fix the Simpsons
Wizard.
14-12-2017, 10:19 AM
American Horror Story: Cinderella’s Slipper?
user104658
14-12-2017, 10:20 AM
Most important part of this story:
Fox owns the rights to X-Men, Fantastic Four, Deadpool etc... so if Disney buy them out, any or all of these characters are available to the MCU :omgno:.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--RM2VQsiQ--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1475572500488317254.png
Tom4784
14-12-2017, 10:50 AM
Most important part of this story:
Fox owns the rights to X-Men, Fantastic Four, Deadpool etc... so if Disney buy them out, any or all of these characters are available to the MCU :omgno:.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--RM2VQsiQ--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1475572500488317254.png
It could mean bad things for properties like Deadpool though unless they keep Fox around as another Touchstone to release the more adult orientated Superhero films.
user104658
14-12-2017, 10:58 AM
It could mean bad things for properties like Deadpool though unless they keep Fox around as another Touchstone to release the more adult orientated Superhero films.
That's a point I guess. I also have reservations about what will happen with the Netflix Marvel shows once Disney starts its own streaming thing... which I imagine is another big motivation for the purchase. I can see there being a fair bit of X-men etc. content on Disney's streaming services.
Smithy
14-12-2017, 11:05 AM
This is where they turn Hulu into their own Netflix, with simpsons, family guy, Star Wars etc etc
Tom4784
14-12-2017, 11:20 AM
That's a point I guess. I also have reservations about what will happen with the Netflix Marvel shows once Disney starts its own streaming thing... which I imagine is another big motivation for the purchase. I can see there being a fair bit of X-men etc. content on Disney's streaming services.
They may make an exception for the Netflix shows since I could imagine taking the rights back if Netflix was involved in the production and not just the distribution would be very tricky indeed.
user104658
14-12-2017, 12:26 PM
They may make an exception for the Netflix shows since I could imagine taking the rights back if Netflix was involved in the production and not just the distribution would be very tricky indeed.
From what I've read, the Netflix deal still has a good couple of years left in it but once that expires the rights to the shows and characters themselves are squarely with Disney... and also I've read that Disney's eventual goal is to have ALL Disney content, both TV and Movies (and especially Marvel / Star Wars), be exclusive to their own streaming service. It makes a lot of sense, really, as they have a lot of content that people will pay a monthly sub for already, plus the possibility of funding X Men and Star Wars shows. I mean I have to be honest and say that I'm highly likely to get it if the content is up to scratch :shrug:.
But I don't know what that means in terms of how the Netflix shows are made... like how they're actually filmed, who the actors are contracted to, etc.
Which means there's a chance that, if they can't easily port the existing format over to their own streaming service, they'll just let the current Netflix shows end when the deal ends in a couple of years and concentrate on their own new shows. In terms of characters, I think there's a decent chance they would try to bring DD over as he's the best known of the bunch and also the most "traditionally superhero-y" of The Defenders... fits best with the rest of the MCU basically. I can see the other Defenders being left out in the cold :worry:.
Tom4784
14-12-2017, 12:39 PM
From what I've read, the Netflix deal still has a good couple of years left in it but once that expires the rights to the shows and characters themselves are squarely with Disney... and also I've read that Disney's eventual goal is to have ALL Disney content, both TV and Movies (and especially Marvel / Star Wars), be exclusive to their own streaming service. It makes a lot of sense, really, as they have a lot of content that people will pay a monthly sub for already, plus the possibility of funding X Men and Star Wars shows. I mean I have to be honest and say that I'm highly likely to get it if the content is up to scratch :shrug:.
But I don't know what that means in terms of how the Netflix shows are made... like how they're actually filmed, who the actors are contracted to, etc.
Which means there's a chance that, if they can't easily port the existing format over to their own streaming service, they'll just let the current Netflix shows end when the deal ends in a couple of years and concentrate on their own new shows. In terms of characters, I think there's a decent chance they would try to bring DD over as he's the best known of the bunch and also the most "traditionally superhero-y" of The Defenders... fits best with the rest of the MCU basically. I can see the other Defenders being left out in the cold :worry:.
Then again, considering that Disney doesn't like anything that's rated higher than a 12A under the Disney label, they might leave the Netflix universe as is and treat it like another Touchstone situation.
how does this affect the proposed buy out of Sky by fox? Does it mean we will now get a fluffy Sky News :dance:
arista
14-12-2017, 01:16 PM
21st Century has agreed the deal
Ref: Business Update SkyNewsHD. and FoxNewsHD online live
$52 Billion.
Disney Vs Netflix
arista
14-12-2017, 01:18 PM
how does this affect the proposed buy out of Sky by fox? Does it mean we will now get a fluffy Sky News :dance:
It means the shares will change to Disney
may help the takeover speed UP
SkyNewsHD
and Ch4HD news are the best
That Glass Box
Very UnAmerican
Tom4784
14-12-2017, 01:28 PM
I imagine X-Men will get rebooted after Dark Phoenix to be apart of the MCU, as will Fantastic Four.
It means the shares will change to Disney
may help the takeover speed UP
SkyNewsHD
and Ch4HD news are the best
That Glass Box
Very UnAmerican
if anything, it will likely slow it down more as it will be going to an even bigger organisation
user104658
14-12-2017, 01:44 PM
I imagine X-Men will get rebooted after Dark Phoenix to be apart of the MCU, as will Fantastic Four.
Will they really have another punt at Fantastic Four? I think Fox have officially killed it :joker:. Even though it would be reverting to Disney, and have nothing to do with previous Fox efforts, the brand is pretty badly tainted... I dunno if even the MCU connection could revive it.
X-Men is ready to reboot tbh. It's kind of trash without Wolverine, and Jackman's Wolverine arc is complete IMO. Time for a proper modern-day reboot with a full new cast. I can even see them fudging the story a bit to make it so that Scarlet Witch is indeed Magneto's daughter and a mutant... like the twins were adopted out, and were infact (unknown to them) mutants already and their powers were only brought out by Hydra. In fact giving it thought - have they left the door open to that intentionally? The story about their house getting bombed and how they had to lie totally still next to a Stark Industries bomb that hadn't detonated. Possible "in" there by suggesting that Scarlet Witch was actually subconsciously using her powers to stop the bomb from detonating :think:.
...sorry, I forgot for a second that this isn't a movies forum thread :joker:.
arista
14-12-2017, 01:58 PM
if anything, it will likely slow it down more as it will be going to an even bigger organisation
Maybe
but they will not have all the shares
only 39%
Ref: CNN HD Money.
Tom4784
14-12-2017, 02:07 PM
Will they really have another punt at Fantastic Four? I think Fox have officially killed it :joker:. Even though it would be reverting to Disney, and have nothing to do with previous Fox efforts, the brand is pretty badly tainted... I dunno if even the MCU connection could revive it.
X-Men is ready to reboot tbh. It's kind of trash without Wolverine, and Jackman's Wolverine arc is complete IMO. Time for a proper modern-day reboot with a full new cast. I can even see them fudging the story a bit to make it so that Scarlet Witch is indeed Magneto's daughter and a mutant... like the twins were adopted out, and were infact (unknown to them) mutants already and their powers were only brought out by Hydra. In fact giving it thought - have they left the door open to that intentionally? The story about their house getting bombed and how they had to lie totally still next to a Stark Industries bomb that hadn't detonated. Possible "in" there by suggesting that Scarlet Witch was actually subconsciously using her powers to stop the bomb from detonating :think:.
...sorry, I forgot for a second that this isn't a movies forum thread :joker:.
I think they'll introduce them in an Avengers film, it's looking like there will be a few vacancies after Civil War. They might not have their own film for a while but I can see Marvel putting the individual members in other films first to build them up before they get their own team film. I don't think Marvel's fought so hard to get the rights to the Fantastic Four back just to let them languish once they have them.
I loved Logan but I don't think the X-universe suffers without his presence, I thought First Class was one of the best X-men films and he was only in it for one scene. With Dark Phoenix pretty much bridging the gap between the past and the start of the modern X-Men films, I can see them ending the old continuity and just going forth with a new X-team so they don't have to rely on the Inhumans any more. I think films like Deadpool and the New Mutants will just be slotted into the new continuity as they are.
Mitchell
14-12-2017, 02:45 PM
Worth pointing out that Disney have now acquired Endemol Shine, who created Big Brother UK
Nicky91
14-12-2017, 02:48 PM
Worth pointing out that Disney have now acquired Endemol Shine, who created Big Brother UK
:clap2:
BBUK Disney Style
user104658
14-12-2017, 03:00 PM
Worth pointing out that Disney have now acquired Endemol Shine, who created Big Brother UK
So what you're saying is... we can have Marvelebrity BB with only Marvel characters as housemates? :omgno: I'd watch every second of it.
Nicky91
14-12-2017, 03:03 PM
So what you're saying is... we can have Marvelebrity BB with only Marvel characters as housemates? :omgno: I'd watch every second of it.
so Professor X & Phil Coulson bb Alliance :flutter:
Mitchell
14-12-2017, 06:28 PM
So what you're saying is... we can have Marvelebrity BB with only Marvel characters as housemates? :omgno: I'd watch every second of it.
Nope, what I’m saying is Brenda Song should be forced to do CBB
Marsh.
14-12-2017, 06:37 PM
American Horror Story: Cinderella’s Slipper?
Well the original story had the ugly sisters cutting their own toes off to try and fit into the slipper so it would be perfect. :amazed:
arista
14-12-2017, 06:40 PM
Rupert was on SkyNewsHD Business with Ian King
he is having 25% of Disney
and is a good friend of the Disney CEO B.Igor.
James
14-12-2017, 07:39 PM
how does this affect the proposed buy out of Sky by fox? Does it mean we will now get a fluffy Sky News :dance:
It means the shares will change to Disney
may help the takeover speed UP
SkyNewsHD
and Ch4HD news are the best
That Glass Box
Very UnAmerican
if anything, it will likely slow it down more as it will be going to an even bigger organisation
From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42353545
What does it mean for Sky?
In the UK, Fox is in the midst of a bid to buy the part of the broadcaster Sky that it doesn't already own. That bid is being investigated by the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA), which is due to publish provisional findings in January.
The BBC understands that the Disney deal will not alter that CMA investigation.
If the Sky purchase is approved, that deal would probably go through before the Disney purchase of Fox assets. So the whole of Sky would then be likely to transfer to Disney's ownership.
If not, then just the 39% of Sky currently in Fox's stable passes to Disney.
Rupert Murdoch said: "If things go wrong, the existing [Sky] shares go to Disney. It will be up to them to decide what to do."
Either way Sky's future will lie primarily in Disney's hands.
I read before that this deal might put Sky News future in doubt because (I think) it loses money, and Disney are not really in the news business - aside from ABC in America.
From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42353545
I read before that this deal might put Sky News future in doubt because (I think) it loses money, and Disney are not really in the news business - aside from ABC in America.
Disney are incredibly image conscience, so i'm not sure things like Sky Atlantic or Sky News will be a good fit in its portfolio
Tom4784
14-12-2017, 08:06 PM
Disney are incredibly image conscience, so i'm not sure things like Sky Atlantic or Sky News will be a good fit in its portfolio
It's only when it comes to the Disney Brand itself, you could technically call the Kill Bill films Disney films as they were released by Miramax when Disney owned them.
You'll never see anything rated higher than a 12A released on the Disney Brand but they do own other studios that release less Disney friendly content. I don't think ownership of Sky Atlantic or Sky News would hurt them.
michael21
14-12-2017, 10:27 PM
From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42353545
I read before that this deal might put Sky News future in doubt because (I think) it loses money, and Disney are not really in the news business - aside from ABC in America.
Yes sky news could close but we still have sky sports news :amazed:
arista
15-12-2017, 10:55 AM
[Disney are not really in the news business - aside from ABC in America]
No James
The Disney CEO Bob
has confirmed SkyNewsHD is staying.
Ref : SkyNewsHD Business news and CNN HD Money 2PM and 5PM, yesterday.
abc news is used alot on BBC news and BBC prime.
The 85 year old Rupert full interview , yesterday on the Ian king's business show,
https://news.sky.com/video/watch-rupert-murdoch-interview-in-full-11170849
please note sad virgin media does not have cnn in hd
Tom4784
15-12-2017, 01:14 PM
Apparently they want to keep Deadpool as is, I've heard that the heads of Marvel and Disney are looking into creating an specific branding for the R-Rated superhero films.
Rylan to be replaced by Goofy?
user104658
15-12-2017, 03:03 PM
Apparently they want to keep Deadpool as is, I've heard that the heads of Marvel and Disney are looking into creating an specific branding for the R-Rated superhero films.
I'm not surprised really, in fact the Disney purchase of Fox could be seen as an indication that they're branching out in terms of the content they want to make and that may even be a part of their motivation for buying. There was at one point (the 2000's mainly) an idea that the best way to maximise movie revenue was to make absolutely everything PG-13 at most to maximise potential audience but it's kind of been proven not to be the case in recent years. For example, Terminators 1 and 2 having a massive following but everything since being trash - but now they're bringing back Cameron / Arnie / Linda Hamilton to semi-reboot (hitting rewind up until the end of T2) to make a "proper" R-rated sequel.
I think basically, similar to gaming, the "blockbuster loving generations" now contain a lot of adults who are keen to see films made FOR adults in the cinema... it's seen as a marketing tool in many cases rather than how it was being viewed at one point (as an audience barrier).
Disney have been slowly edging this way for a while really, it's definitely not all animated bunnies even at this point, it makes sense as the next step in evolving into having all sorts of media and target audiences catered to.
user104658
15-12-2017, 03:03 PM
Rylan to be replaced by Goofy?
Goofy to be replaced by Rylan :omgno:
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/12/15/ryoofy.jpg
James
16-12-2017, 02:07 AM
The R rating (in the US) does reduce box office though, like with Blade Runner 2049 this year. Generally the budgets given to them are lower, because the audience that can see them is more limited. A lot of adults don't have time to go to the cinema, unless it is to take their children to a family-friendly film, hence children's animations being such a big deal now for film-companies.
Sometimes you get a breakout horror film that does well, and also R-rated comedies can do well.
Goofy to be replaced by Rylan :omgno:
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/12/15/ryoofy.jpg
:joker:
user104658
17-12-2017, 10:27 PM
The R rating (in the US) does reduce box office though, like with Blade Runner 2049 this year. Generally the budgets given to them are lower, because the audience that can see them is more limited. A lot of adults don't have time to go to the cinema, unless it is to take their children to a family-friendly film, hence children's animations being such a big deal now for film-companies.
Sometimes you get a breakout horror film that does well, and also R-rated comedies can do well.
Yes, but that thinking lead them to start making PG-13 sequels / remakes of classic R-rated properties thinking that it was a recipe for success... but the vast majority of the time, the films (deservedly) get panned by audiences and critics. I think they've started to accept that if you want to make a critically acclaimed sequel to a classic R-rated franchise... you have to make it for adults.
Glenn-C
18-12-2017, 05:18 PM
Worth pointing out that Disney have now acquired Endemol Shine, who created Big Brother UK
So what you're saying is Nikki Grahame is a Disney princess?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/Princess_Nikki.jpg
Mitchell
19-12-2017, 12:31 AM
Princess Nikki to kiss the frog?
arista
27-02-2018, 02:14 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/comcast-corporation-challenges-rupert-murdoch-with-31bn-sky-bid-11269412
Now a 2nd bid, after Disney , is in for BSkyB
Sky Shares have gone up , of course
[Comcast said its possible all-cash offer
of £12.50 per Sky share represented
a premium of 16% on the current Fox terms,
which value Sky at £18.5bn.]
arista
14-06-2018, 01:38 PM
Comcast 65 Billion dollars,
now its up to Disney to go above that
or pull out.
[The cable giant says its cash bid - of $35 per share - for most of Fox's assets is 19% higher than the value of Disney's offer.]
SkyNews married to NBC news
maybe,
(ref: CNN Money HD)
[The move follows a previous bid being rebuffed last year.
Wednesday's announcement comes a day after a US federal judge cleared AT&T's $85bn takeover of Time Warner.
The judge rejected the government's argument the takeover would hurt competition in cable and satellite TV and increase costs to consumers for streaming TV and movies.]
https://e3.365dm.com/18/04/1096x616/skynews-comcast-nbc_4292245.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180425122023
https://news.sky.com/story/comcast-65bn-bid-sets-up-battle-with-disney-for-fox-11404074
Sign Of The Times
Sooooo... does this mean that Fox News will go liberal? :laugh: No? Is that how it works with parent companies? I have no clue. I'm no expert on building massive media empires... sorry
arista
14-06-2018, 09:52 PM
Sooooo... does this mean that Fox News will go liberal? :laugh: No? Is that how it works with parent companies? I have no clue. I'm no expert on building massive media empires... sorry
No FoxNews
is not part of the deal.
No FoxNews
is not part of the deal.
Who owns Fox News?
arista
14-06-2018, 09:57 PM
Who owns Fox News?
Rupert Murdoch
James
14-06-2018, 10:38 PM
Who owns Fox News?
It's part of 21st Century Fox, controlled by the Murdochs, but they would keep it (and the Fox local US channels) if the rest of the company is sold to Disney or Comcast. I'm not sure the deal would be allowed to go through otherwise.
Rupert Murdoch
It's part of 21st Century Fox, controlled by the Murdochs, but they would keep it (and the Fox local US channels) if the rest of the company is sold to Disney or Comcast. I'm not sure the deal would be allowed to go through otherwise.
Yeah I had thought Murdoch was tied to all that, but don't really remember the details of how exactly that works... interesting.
arista
20-06-2018, 08:12 PM
Wow
Disney now has put $71 Billion offer in
https://news.sky.com/story/disney-raises-bid-for-fox-assets-to-713bn-11411067
Feel The Force
arista
20-06-2018, 08:17 PM
From CNN MONEY HD LIVE
Comcast now expected to put in a $80 Billion bid in soon.
21st Century Fox Studios goes to the Winner of the Deal.
Please Note:
FoxNewsHD
FoxBusinessNewsHD
FoxSportsHD
are not for sale in this mega deal.
Glenn.
20-06-2018, 08:26 PM
Get ha Disney!
Tom4784
27-07-2018, 09:41 PM
Shareholders have signed off on Walt Disney's plan to buy the film and television assets of Rupert Murdoch's 21st Century Fox for $71bn (£54bn).
The approval, which had been expected, bring the merger one step closer to completion.
Regulators in the US have already approved the plan, but it still needs the go-ahead in many other countries.
The companies said last December they hoped to complete the deal in 12-18 months.
Disney had faced competition from US cable giant Comcast for the Fox assets, but Comcast retreated after Disney raised its bid last month.
The two companies continue to vie for satellite broadcaster Sky.
Disney hopes the Fox acquisition will make it more competitive with online rivals such as Netflix, by giving it more shows and movies, as well as a bigger stake in the online streaming service Hulu.
It agreed to sell Fox's 22 regional sports networks in order to win approval from anti-trust regulators at the US Justice Department.
Fox plans to spin off its news and sports channels, including its flagship Fox News channel, into a newly listed company.
Fox shareholders will also receive shares in Disney as part of the deal.
Shareholders in both companies signed off on the cash-and-stock transaction at meetings on Friday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44987650
After ten years, the MCU has all of it's toys to play with.
What's interesting is that the latest X-men films have disappeared completely from the release slate which has led some people to believe they've been cancelled completely despite being finished. If that's the case, I can see the first hint of the MCU X-men appearing in the 2019 Marvel films. I predict that the first x-men to appear will be Storm in Black Panther 2.
Quite exciting although it's not good news for the industry as Disney's monopoly is only gonna get worse from here on out.
Calderyon
27-07-2018, 09:51 PM
Disney is getting too powerful and that is not a good thing.
Yeah not really a fan of what Disney has done with Star Wars tbh... a creative monopoly will be terrible for us in the West. We had that growing up in my generation in the US to a degree with our broad-stroke censorship... but Disney was always challenged to give us a great tale & drama that went outside of the box... now they've become too coveted in our culture.
Oh well, I will just go further towards foreign/india media for all my movies, entertainment etc... I already do for music and I've started to watch a lot of digital shows as well. I guess to some degree, it was pretty much inevitable...
Glenn.
27-07-2018, 10:29 PM
They literally own everything
James
28-07-2018, 04:06 AM
In theory it means less originality (and there's isn't an awful lot of that at the moment with big-budget tentpole films) but what balances it out is the rise of streaming services and new media.
Disney and Fox are just trying to compete with the likes of Netflix, YouTube and big-technology compaines like Apple getting involved in entertainment. These types of mergers are inevitable.
user104658
28-07-2018, 03:49 PM
I have no issue with it to be honest. Hollywood / cinema / blockbuster type movies are what they are, they're never going to be high-brow... Pure escapism and I enjoy them for what they are. Frankly, most of the supposedly Oscar worthy Hollywood stuff is pretentious trash.
So I say keep the blockbusters coming bigger and better. There are still plenty of independent movies that are actually interesting and good coming out, on all sorts of platforms, and that will continue and most likely increase in both quantity and quality as streaming becomes more and more "the norm" over live TV.
My only real concern is that the MCU will become too busy if they start introducing a tonne of mutants. It's already a little crowded.
I would love for Disney/Marvel to put together a good quality Xmen TV series though. We've had a few spin off style ones with minor characters... But a "Proper" one with the core Xmen / the actual school would be awesome.
Barry.
28-07-2018, 04:38 PM
I hope they sort out fantastic four first.
Glenn.
28-07-2018, 04:56 PM
Disney acquiring a lot of new assets also means substantial IP expansions within its theme parks too. We’re already seeing a mass Marvel presence appearing, and the new Star Wars areas opening on both coasts of America, and also a watered down version in Paris in a few years.
It gives them room to manoeuvre in the market especially in Orlando where the biggest competition, Universal is expected to open a fourth gate by 2023.
user104658
28-07-2018, 06:37 PM
They've pretty much trashed Star Wars though... I hope they give the new stuff to more competent people :umm2:.
The core Star Wars audience is not kids anymore, they need to realise that and make their Star Wars universe a bit darker with more impact. Likewise, I feel like there scope for the Xmen franchise being aimed at a slightly older audience than the overall MCU (though there will inevitably be crossovers).
I'm wondering if they'll retcon Scarlet Witch / Quicksilver as mutants? It would be quite easy to do so... They could discover that their powers aren't FROM the mind stone, just that the experiments with it unlocked their latent Mutant abilities that they already had (which would explain why they were the only candidates that the experiments worked on). Both characters are kind of big in the Xmen universe so it would be a bit odd if they had to be kept as "enhanced humans" rather than mutants. I also can't see them not somehow bringing Quicksilver back if they do indeed combine the universes?
Then again, they may well keep them separate franchises for the time being.
James
19-03-2019, 04:22 PM
Disney takes over 20th [21st] Century Fox tonight.
Disney is poised to close the $71.3 billion deal that took many twists and turns last year shortly after 9 p.m. PT on Tuesday. The birth of the Murdochs’ successor Fox Corporation — home of Fox Broadcasting, Fox News and Fox Sports — will also be official on Tuesday.
From https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/disney-fox-transaction-march-20-close-timeline-1203165056/
hkzAZHvwLUk
Scarlett.
19-03-2019, 04:29 PM
The Simpsons is now officially a Disney cartoon
arista
19-03-2019, 04:35 PM
[The birth of the Murdochs’ successor Fox Corporation
home of Fox Broadcasting, Fox News
and Fox Sports — will also be official on Tuesday.]
And FoxBusinessNewsHD as well on Tuesday 26th of March
arista
19-03-2019, 04:42 PM
Disney is getting too powerful and that is not a good thing.
Yes
soon to Launch Disney+
in USA
once they have taken all their shows off Netflix.
Strictly Jake
19-03-2019, 05:52 PM
They are getting greedy
I mean this year the movies they are releasing
Dumbo/Aladdin/the lion King/toy story 4/frozen 2
Then you have any marvel, or star wars film I'm not a particular fan of those though(loved star wars when I was a kid but it's a bit boring now and I can't keep up with the marvel stuff)
Imagine how much money they are gonna make it one year
Strictly Jake
19-03-2019, 05:52 PM
They are getting greedy
I mean this year the movies they are releasing
Dumbo/Aladdin/the lion King/toy story 4/frozen 2
Then you have any marvel, or star wars film I'm not a particular fan of those though(loved star wars when I was a kid but it's a bit boring now and I can't keep up with the marvel stuff)
Imagine how much money they are gonna make it one year
A scream that the shot of Kinga shoving a bottle up her is owned by Disney.
James
07-05-2019, 11:14 PM
Disney put out an updated schedule today for Disney and Fox films.
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They are getting greedy
I mean this year the movies they are releasing
Dumbo/Aladdin/the lion King/toy story 4/frozen 2
Then you have any marvel, or star wars film I'm not a particular fan of those though(loved star wars when I was a kid but it's a bit boring now and I can't keep up with the marvel stuff)
Imagine how much money they are gonna make it one yearThe Disney releases in the schedule are mostly just Marvel, Pixar, remakes and Star Wars.
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James
07-05-2019, 11:18 PM
Three years until a new Star Wars film after Episode 9, then every two years. Four Avatar sequels starting December 2021.
They're going to make billions this year, with Avengers, Toy Story 4, Lion King, Frozen 2 and Star Wars.
Strictly Jake
08-05-2019, 07:15 AM
Three years until a new Star Wars film after Episode 9, then every two years. Four Avatar sequels starting December 2021.
They're going to make billions this year, with Avengers, Toy Story 4, Lion King, Frozen 2 and Star Wars.
I thought the star wars this year was the last they are dragging it out like mad
4 avatar sequels?? We only need one
Also the money they made off Dumbo and soon the money they made off aladdin too
Strictly Jake
08-05-2019, 07:22 AM
How many live action films are they going to make though?
I mean yeah it was kinda cute to start off with and enjoyed some of them but to make a live action of every film is going a bit far what have we had so far?
Snow white and the huntsman
Alice in wonderland
Cinderella
Maleficent
Jungle Book
Beauty and the beast
Dumbo
Aladdin
Lion King
Am I forgetting any?
I know Mulan and Hunchback are being made
So I'm hoping we get
Little Mermaid and Pocahontas
And erm...can't think of any more but I see Cruella is in the pipeline on the schedule that will be good. Ursula needs her own film too!!!
user104658
08-05-2019, 07:49 AM
Three years until a new Star Wars film after Episode 9, then every two years.
--Much-- better that way and I'd even push it to 3 full years between movies. It's a franchise that needs thought and hype, not constant releases.
arista
08-05-2019, 10:44 AM
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user104658
08-05-2019, 11:07 AM
Is anyone even all that interested in ONE Avatar sequel at this point? I mean it was an OK film but the major draw was it being a "flagship" 3D movie and there are hundreds of 3D movies now... plus 3D didn't even really take off all that massively :think:.
arista
08-05-2019, 11:15 AM
Is anyone even all that interested in ONE Avatar sequel at this point? I mean it was an OK film but the major draw was it being a "flagship" 3D movie and there are hundreds of 3D movies now... plus 3D didn't even really take off all that massively :think:.
Sure
but because of Star War Movies
pushing "Avatar 2 "
back to 2021 December
is wrong.
Tom4784
08-05-2019, 11:22 AM
How many live action films are they going to make though?
I mean yeah it was kinda cute to start off with and enjoyed some of them but to make a live action of every film is going a bit far what have we had so far?
Snow white and the huntsman
Alice in wonderland
Cinderella
Maleficent
Jungle Book
Beauty and the beast
Dumbo
Aladdin
Lion King
Am I forgetting any?
I know Mulan and Hunchback are being made
So I'm hoping we get
Little Mermaid and Pocahontas
And erm...can't think of any more but I see Cruella is in the pipeline on the schedule that will be good. Ursula needs her own film too!!!
I don't have a problem with the live action remakes so far but that will probably change this year as I'm not keen on the look of Lion King (Why does that even exist?) or Aladdin (Guy Ritchie is a hack). I loved the live action Beauty and the Beast.
Oh and Snow White and the Hunstman isn't a Disney film, it's not a remake of the animation.
Hunchback will probably be delayed or cancelled all together now, I expect. It was never a huge success for Disney despite how good it was and now Notre Dame is out of commission for at least a few years, I can't see them forging ahead with it.
I can't imagine they'd touch Pocahontas again, it's too much of a powder keg these days.
Livia
08-05-2019, 01:26 PM
Is anyone even all that interested in ONE Avatar sequel at this point? I mean it was an OK film but the major draw was it being a "flagship" 3D movie and there are hundreds of 3D movies now... plus 3D didn't even really take off all that massively :think:.
NO! I was bored rigid.
James
08-05-2019, 03:37 PM
I really liked Avatar.
...I really liked Avatar...I watched it 3 times...:laugh:...
Wizard.
08-05-2019, 03:59 PM
All i remember about Avatar was blue people and Sigourney Weaver.
Wizard.
08-05-2019, 04:00 PM
Disney will make their 60 billion back within 5 years.
Tony Montana
08-05-2019, 04:07 PM
I hated Avatar at the time. A rewatch may change my mind.
I hope Endgame surpasses it to become the highest grossing film of all time.
I couldn't watch through the whole of avatar, so i will be passing on any sequel
Jordan.
08-05-2019, 04:41 PM
The hate Avatar gets smh. It's far better than Hypegame.
user104658
08-05-2019, 05:43 PM
The hate Avatar gets smh. It's far better than Hypegame.
I didn't hate it, it was a good enough sci-fi movie and I'd have been up for a sequel 2 / 3 years after the original but... I mean... it'll have been 12 years between 1 and 2. I don't think it was memorable enough for the hype to be particularly big.
I'll definitely watch it, but I doubt I'll go to the cinema for it. So I guess it depends on how good the second movie is? If it's stand-out then it might have enough steam for a 5 movie franchise. If it's only OK then I don't see how they can justify greenlighting another 3 movies :think:.
Glenn.
08-05-2019, 06:03 PM
I wonder if I’ll still be alive when Avatar 5 comes out. I will be 39 :skull:
James
15-05-2019, 01:47 PM
Game of Thrones producers to direct 2022 Star Wars film. (I've fixed the problem with the page not loading when posting in this thread).
Next ‘Star Wars’ Movie Will Be From ‘Game of Thrones’ Creators
By Dave McNary
“Game of Thrones” creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss are working on the “Star Wars” movie that’s due out in 2022, Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed.
Iger made the announcement Tuesday during the MoffettNathanson Media and Communications Summit, a week after Disney revealed there will be a trio of untitled “Star Wars” entries after “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker” brings the Skywalker spinoff saga to a close this December. When Disney initially updated its theatrical release slate, it was unclear who would be tackling the forthcoming “Star Wars” films.
The first of the new three entries will hit the big screen on Dec. 16, 2022. Details are sparse on what the upcoming “Star Wars” installment will entail.
“We’re hard at work already, but we felt three years was the proper amount of time to not only take a breather and reset, but to gear up for the next film’s release,” Iger said. “We did a deal with David Benioff and Dan Weiss, who are famous for ‘Game of Thrones’ and the next movie that we release will be theirs, and we’re not saying anything more about that.”
Two more “Star Wars film” will come out in 2024 and 2026. Those films are set to alternate with James Cameron’s “Avatar” sequels, which will start on Dec. 17, 2021, and continue in every other year through 2027.
Tuesday’s disclosure by Iger offers clarification on Disney’s announcement in February of 2018, that Benioff and Weiss would write and produce a new series of “Star Wars” films that would be separate from the main episodic Skywalker saga that started with 1977’s “Star Wars: A New Hope.
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/star-wars-2022-movie-game-of-thrones-creators-1203214646/
user104658
15-05-2019, 03:31 PM
Game of Thrones producers to direct 2022 Star Wars film.
"Star Wars Episode X - Luke Skywalker Burns Everything In Sight" ... ?
Barry.
15-05-2019, 03:34 PM
Glad the Queen from Aliens is now a Disney Queen with Elsa.
Smithy
15-05-2019, 07:18 PM
Game of Thrones producers to direct 2022 Star Wars film. (I've fixed the problem with the page not loading when posting in this thread).
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/star-wars-2022-movie-game-of-thrones-creators-1203214646/
:laugh3:
Good luck with those incompetent ****s writing that
Tom4784
15-05-2019, 11:42 PM
If they can't handle the reaction from the GOT fans to the ****show they've made of the ending then good luck with the Star Wars stans, they'll need it.
Marsh.
15-05-2019, 11:44 PM
Not James Cameron taking 50 years to complete an entire franchise capitalising on a fad that lasted 5 minutes. :skull:
Marsh.
15-05-2019, 11:48 PM
I wonder if I’ll still be alive when Avatar 5 comes out. I will be 39 :skull:
Screaming.
So if 2 flops hard they're going to commit to YEARS more releases?
Ross.
15-05-2019, 11:50 PM
I can't remember anything about the first Avatar lmao
Nicky91
24-07-2022, 03:31 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/deadpool-logan-coming-disney-streamer-161536779.html
Deadpool, Logan coming to Disney+
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