CBB21 Edgic Thread

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History of Edgic: Edgic, a portmanteau of editing and logic, was a tool devised in the early-mid 2000s used to help predict winners of the US reality TV show Survivor. Each contestant was assigned a rating for each episode they appeared in, and their ratings and edits were analyzed in an effort to predict who the winner would be. If you've recently entered the Survivor subforum, you've probably encountered people arguing about whether or not edgic discussions constitutes spoiler tags, mainly stemming from the fact that Michele, the winner of the spring 2016 season of Survivor, was one of the more obvious winners by edgicians and one of the more surprising winners to non-edgicians.

In terms of edgicing BBUK..... it's pretty pointless alol. Maybe someone else has a different perspective but to me, there's something therapeutic about assigning colored cells to reality TV contestants and using the composite rating to organize my thoughts and feelings and visually represent the series.

How Edgic Works: Each cell has two components - rating and tone. Rating is breaking down what type of content you had in an episode, while tone is breaking down how the viewers are supposed to perceive the content. There are mainly four different ratings and four different tones, and they can be mixed and matched.

Edgic Ratings: UTR ~ you more or less weren't in the episode, and if you were your content was either unmemorable or you were deliberately edited to be under the radar. Think of Sam Evans, Hira, most recently Charlotte, etc.
MOR ~ you're present, but not particularly dynamic. The content and airtime is there, but there is a lacking of personal insight or character development. You're middle of the road. Think of someone like Kieran.
CP ~ you are a complex personality. You're one of the main forces driving the narrative and we are learning and who you are as a person as you are providing your personal insight. Deana Uppal, Aisleyne, Aaron, etc. You can also throw in your obnoxious GAMEPLAYERS in here like Victor and nasty Nick.
OTT ~ over the top. I don't think this needs much explaining, BBUK pretty much rewrote the definition for over the top when it introduced people like Nikki and Charley and Kinga.

Edgic Tone: Neutral ~ we're not supposed to feel a particular way about you. Think like.... Liam or Karly or Laura McAdam.
Positive (P) ~ you're a protagonist and someone who the editors are explicitly telling us to root for. This is actually surprisingly rare due to the format of BBUK. Think of people like Brian Belo, Nadia, Luke A, Brian Dowling (hey they all won). If you're looking for someone who didn't win..... Samanda also work.
Negative (N) ~ we're either supposed to dislike you or love to hate you. Charley, Victor, Bea, Helen ****ing Wood, etc.
Mixed (M) ~ there are both positives and negatives to how you're presented. Due to the nature of BBUK, like 80% of the people end up with mixed tone. Nikki, Aaron, Aisleyne, Freddie, etc.

When doing civilian BB, it's a little easier to do it by weeks since they usually follow a typical 7-day format (possible exceptions being the first and last). The way I structure these isn't by actual whole weeks, and more rather measured of the time between each eviction that airs on HL's, usually Wednesday shows or Saturday shows that include the eviction. In this case, CBB has ranged from 4-8 weeks, with the 30+ day series usually being in the 7-8 week bracket. Sometimes there may be possible exceptions where a live show with an audience is all it takes. Examples would include in CBB15 where there was supposed to be an Alexander/Chloe head-to-head but Jeremy/Ken's removals cancelled this so that first week would technically end at the beginning of Cami Li's queen task. Or in CBB3 or CBB16 there could be a whole live show dedicated to someone just being in there for a few days, thus the week ending at their debut e.g. Jackie Stallone and Paul Burrill respectively.

The previous series below: https://image.prntscr.com/image/E7MdSXf1S1y1JrB1EQePTg.png

And now it's time to do it with CBB21. As this is a January series, it'll most likely be 7-8 weeks but I'm not gonna do it by that way like I had done with CBB20, the first time a thread was used for this. Instead, I'll go daily and in-depth with each housemate, starting with the 8 female housemates in the Day 1 highlights. If you still don't know what edgic means read the quotes listed above.

Amanda - MORP - she was trying to be nice to people like Ann and she was being positive about other people although she wasn't too significant herself
Ann - MORN - she was shown repeatedly complaining about the house exterior and disagreeing with her housemates, which was backed up as being negative by the housemates talking about it, including Amanda and Jess saying they're scared of her. They also had a small problem with her getting a separate bedroom.
Ashley - UTR - she perked up every now and again during the debate part but otherwise she didn't do much.
India - MOR - she got some controversy from people with the weird self-transphobia moment but she wasn't really portrayed positively or negatively otherwise and was just a supporting character.
Jess - MOR - she was somewhat vocal during the episode but she was pretty toneless about it.
Maggie - MORP - Amanda and Jess talked of her positively and thought she was a great woman before she was awarded immunity and she was also a somewhat frequent part of the episode. She was also comforted when self-conscious about how famous she is.
Malika - MOR - she had a DR talking about the housemates and was still a talking part of the episode but she wasn't positive or negative.
Rachel - MOR - She had a somewhat long DR and frequently talked during the task.

Overall a very MOR-based episode but it's to be expected from the first HL show where people are just settling in. Anyway, what's your take on tonight? Anything different you'd put here? Will try to update this daily as the series continues.

[reece(:]

Amanda - MORP
Ann - OTTN
Ashley - UTR
India - CPN
Jess - MOR
Maggie - MORP
Malika - MOR
Rachel - MOR

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Late reply because i didn't see the episode up until now:

Day 2

Amanda - MOR - I can't really remember much that important with her besides her speaking up now and again. Correct me if i'm wrong
Ann - OTTM - She was a heavy kind of presence with housemates repeatedly bringing up how fortright she acts, Rachel complaining about her attitude in the confessional, the fact that the housemates noticed how Ann wasn't dancing. But she also had some positivity with her and India making up with each other after Ann makes an accidentally transphobic comment, or when India and Malika are complaining about her still include how they think she's a nice person, or early on when Jess says in the DR that she's really starting to like her, making her OTTM overall.
Ashley - UTRP - she recounted a funny story at the dining table but there wasn't much otherwise.
India - CPM - She was complaining about Ann while aware that she was whining, and she had an elaborated mindset on things and about her, but she also made up with Ann towards the end of the episode that gives her an M.
Jess - MORP - she was the same as Ashley but a little bit more visible.
Maggie - MOR she spoke up a couple times but she was still pretty toneless.
Malika - MOR - same as Maggie
Rachel - MOR - same as Maggie.

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Day 3

Amanda - CPM - The whole highlight show was about her and India's feud, and she made a really offensive comment, but gets an M for repeatedly apologizing and calling it an accident and constantly trying to make up for it.
Ann - UTR - She didn't involve too much in the gender argument besides say about India 'He still won't accept your apology' :umm2:
Ashley - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance
India - CPN - she was on the receiving end of an accidentally offensive misgenderment that made her mood go negative for the whole portion of the day. even if she has the right to be offended it doesn't change the rating because she didn't have any positive or optimistic content.
Jess - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance
Malika - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance
Rachel - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance

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Day 4

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Ann - MORN - she clapped Jonny saying that feminism has gone too far which was negative because of other females looking uncomfortable about it, and she also had a moody DR about how she wanted to help around the house and hated the equality stuff.
Ashley - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
India - CPN - she had this complex negativity about Ginuwine's views on dating a transgender person which was made negative by other housemates complaining about her reaction and it being the crux of the last few minutes.
Jess - UTRP - Jonny said he had a crush on her and him and Daniel admired her, and Andrew had a light-hearted and humorous conversation with her in the kitchen
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Malika - MOR - she was very vocal about her issues with India but it wasn't really positive or negative as much as it was her vocalizing an opinion.
Rachel - UTR - she didn't do much of importance

Now this is the end of Week 1 but the males debuted in the last HL show of it. So they won't be included in the concluding chart I'll have up so what I count here can just be counted for Week 2

Andrew - UTRP - had a positive conversation with Jess, weighed in on supporting equality, and had a brief friendly interaction with Ann.
Daniel - MOR - he had a confession about his sick past and had a DR with Jonny but he wasn't really positive or negative.
Ginuwine - MOR - he started the transsexual discussion about him not wanting to date one but he in particular wasn't brought up on it.
John - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Jonny - MOR - he had a long-winded DR with Daniel
Shane J - MORP - he had a comical entrance of his skirt ripping, he had a positive interaction with Shane L, he made a positive confession about how he came out as a drag queen, and overall he was pretty prominent with it.
Shane L - MORP - he didn't do much of importance but other housemates positively approved of him, and women, Wayne, and Courtney had briefly positive interaction with him.
Wayne - UTR - he didn't do much of importance

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now with week 1 over, prepare for the weirdest first edgic bar to come across yet.

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kept it at 8 weeks since that's been the maximum length of weeks for CBB in the past but it could easily go up to 9

[reece(:]

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[thisisdanny]

now with week 1 over, prepare for the weirdest first edgic bar to come across yet.

https://i.imgur.com/1T0vcso.png

kept it at 8 weeks since that's been the maximum length of weeks for CBB in the past but it could easily go up to 9

Maximum CBB was CBB17 and CBB19, just 32 days. Definitely not 8 or 9 weeks.

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Maximum CBB was CBB17 and CBB19, just 32 days. Definitely not 8 or 9 weeks.

I already mentioned in the OP the CBB timeframe goes by live crowd shows since just having them all in 3s/4s would be too short. Therefore CBB17 and CBB19 fill out the current maximum of 8 weeks. I don't mean weeks as in 7 days. It's just a system. I would've just done stuff like Days 1-4 like reece has above but the way i have makes the bars a little shorter.

[Rufus]

I still think this thread is really interesting.

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Day 5 (Week 2)

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Andrew - MOR - he had several brief moments throughout but nothing enough to make him positive. his only real positive thing was in his interaction with Ann in the bedroom. he had interactions with Ashley and Daniel but both were neutral conversations
Ann - OTTN - she was acting like a homophobic twat with no positivity and was cited negatively by several housemates who made Jess Impiazzi cry and also got really pissed off at Big Brother about them making the men pregnant.
Ashley - MORP - she reassured India for a couple of minutes early on and was prominent enough for another interaction with Andrew as well.
Ginuwine - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
India - CPM - she had words of encouragement from John, Ashley and Malika and was making amends with Shane J, but she also had this moody view of Maggie not backed up by anything and she's still not completely trusted.
Jess - MOR - she was somewhat vocal throughout the episode including getting emotional by Ann's negativity but she was still a neutral presence.
John - MORP - he was encouraging to India for a small couple of minutes
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Maggie - UTRN - she didn't say or do anything but India repeatedly spoke negatively about her being a follower around, a bad smell, etc. including saying 'at least maggie didn't come in' after her and Shane J were talking things through. Ann also criticized her in particular for laughing at the male pregnancy and that she was disappointed in her.
Malika - MORP - she had conversations with Ginuwine, Andrew, and India whom she reassured about the previous night issues India had.
Rachel - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Shane J - CPP - he gave a detailed backstory on what made him emotional back when he was a teenager and had a detailed conversation with Ann about gay rights and a final DR about it as well. he was definitely the most developed and edited the best out of everyone.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Wayne - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.

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Day 5 (Week 2)

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Andrew - MOR - he had several brief moments throughout but nothing enough to make him positive. his only real positive thing was in his interaction with Ann in the bedroom. he had interactions with Ashley and Daniel but both were neutral conversations
Ann - OTTN - she was acting like a homophobic twat with no positivity and was cited negatively by several housemates who made Jess Impiazzi cry and also got really pissed off at Big Brother about them making the men pregnant.
Ashley - MORP - she reassured India for a couple of minutes early on and was prominent enough for another interaction with Andrew as well.
India - CPM - she had words of encouragement from John, Ashley and Malika and was making amends with Shane J, but she also had this moody view of Maggie not backed up by anything and she's still not completely trusted.
Jess - MOR - she was somewhat vocal throughout the episode including getting emotional by Ann's negativity but she was still a neutral presence.
John - MORP - he was encouraging to India for a small couple of minutes
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Maggie - UTRN - she didn't say or do anything but India repeatedly spoke negatively about her being a follower around, a bad smell, etc. including saying 'at least ann didn't come in' after her and Shane J were talking things through. Ann also criticized her in particular for laughing at the male pregnancy and that she was disappointed in her.
Malika - MORP - she had conversations with Ginuwine, Andrew, and India whom she reassured about the previous night issues India had.
Rachel - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Shane J - CPP - he gave a detailed backstory on what made him emotional back when he was a teenager and had a detailed conversation with Ann about gay rights and a final DR about it as well. he was definitely the most developed and edited the best out of everyone.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Wayne - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.

You forgot Daniel.

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You forgot Daniel.

Daniel - MOR - he was a forgettable annoying bollox

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Day 6

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Andrew - OTTP - he got in drag with a hugely OTT dress routine of it where he moaned but it was used for positive laughs. Then he came in wearing drag and a majority of the cast enjoyed it. He also tried hashing things out with India and apologizing if he offended her, and also saying how he went in drag to break sexuality stereotypes and having good intentions that were backed up by most of the housemates. He blew up at India when she continued to argue against him but he was seen as justified with the negative air the housemates were making out of her. A highly positive housemate.
Ann - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Ashley - MOR - she talked about who she's blocked on Twitter and she had a conversation with Ginuwine but she wasn't too important otherwise.
Daniel - MOR - he didn't do much of importance but he had several lines relating to Andrew/India that made him escape being UTR.
Ginuwine - MORM - he had this brief positive moment with Ashley including flirting with her, but he had a briefly negative spat with India again over her accusing him of being transphobic again.
India - OTTN - she was repeatedly moody, sulky, and resentful throughout most of the episode and most of the housemates negatively talked about her like this. she also responded negatively to Andrew's apology and was in general extremely solemn in her demeanor. Normally she'd get CPN when she gets like this but in this case it was overblown enough for her to be otherwise.
Jess - UTRP - The 'Lads' briefly talked positively of her being a really nice girl but she wasn't important otherwise.
John - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Malika - MOR - she had vocal begrudging problems with India's lack of positivity although wasn't too important herself.
Rachel - MOR - she opened up about wanting to do more with her life which she said to Ann but she wasn't too important otherwise.
Shane J - MORP - he glammed up Andrew and had enthusiastic fun back-and-forths with him about it, although wasn't too important himself.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Wayne - UTRP - he wasn't important but he was laughing in the diary room about an honest confession he made in the task where the men had to see which of them were the most honest and how people reacted to it, and had background approving reactions to Andrew's drag performance.

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now with week 1 over, prepare for the weirdest first edgic bar to come across yet.

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kept it at 8 weeks since that's been the maximum length of weeks for CBB in the past but it could easily go up to 9

Which CBB was 8 weeks? :suspect:

[MB.]

He's explained that twice in this thread already

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Which CBB was 8 weeks? :suspect:

I've already described this almost 5 times now. They're not measured in actual weeks. I just abbreviate them to that to make it easier and it's my system. it's measured by how many live shows with the big crowd + the HL's the day after that feature this crowd since that's how weeks are measured in BBUK. Meaning weeks on CBB would usually end on Wednesday or Saturday highlights to correspond with the Tuesday/Friday eviction. A week may also come at the beginning of a late entrant there for only a few days like Jackie Stallone or Paul Burrill. It's not an actual week, can people focus on what the thread is actually about instead?

but anyway i put CBB17, CBB15 and CBB19 as 8 weeks with this system

[andybigbro]

He's explained that twice in this thread already

Rude :fist:

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And also, just measuring the CBBs in actual weeks of 3/4 for every series would just be stale, so i think it's better to extend it as long as you can so you can see housemate's progression better. BBUK for example has done between 8-13 weeks so it's okay to make CBBs pretty long too since CBB is more or less a condensed version of BBUK and therefore only making it 3/4 full-long weeks does a great disservice to the housemates

[reece(:]

I chart it between evictions and/or entrances

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I chart it between evictions and/or entrances

Yeah that's how it should be.

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Mess at the first evictee not happening until the third edgic block now that there's this big crowd since that's one of my rules. Live big crowds are always sort of a staple milestone with how it happens every couple of days in CBB. So looks like i'll have to extend this to 9 blocks in the chart instead of the maximum 8

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Day 7
Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Andrew - MORP - he was somewhat featured and had light-hearted moments with Shane J and Jonny
Ann - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Ashley - MOR - she had more stuff with Ginuwine but it wasn't really detailed or positive
Daniel - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant
Ginuwine - MOR - same as Ashley but vice-versa
India - CPM - after she voted for Courtney to win the talent contest, there was a DR by Courtney being happy that India was doing that but there was still skepticism made, along with a complex diary room by India about how she thinks that backstabbing is going to happen.
Jess - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
John - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Jonny - MORP - he was a little more featured and had a positive moment with Rachel about the chat-up lines he used on her in the task.
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Malika - MOR - she was fairly vocal but she wasn't too important.
Rachel - UTRP - she had a brief carefree and positive moment with Jonny but she wasn't too important.
Shane J - CPP - he detailed what getting in drag is like for him and had a complex DR about how it felt to win the task and also what his views on India were. He was positive for his stuff with Andrew and Jonny.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Wayne - UTR - he didn't do much of importance

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Day 8

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Andrew - OTTP - he reacted in an over-the-top manner to winning his secret task and was hugely cheerful about it, and had highly humorous and egregiously positive laughs with Ann and Courtney in a externally amusing manner.
Ann - MORP - she had make-up done which was made positive by Andrew and Big Brother's flirtatious reactions to it along with Ann's positive nature about it.
Ashley - MORP - her stuff with Ginuwine was used for more positive moments this time, with more housemates making jest of it like Jess and others.
Daniel - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant
Ginuwine - MORP - he revealed his real name and had flirting with Ashley that was both enthusiastically edited in with how the housemates were about it, and her and Andrew jumped to his defense in the smoking area for why India had nominated him as well.
India - CPN - various housemates were still speculating about her, how she would take being nominated, the bravery to be honest in why to nominate her said by Malika, she was definitely still fairly important.
Jess - UTRP - she didn't do too much but she was speculating about Ashley and Ginuwine while drunk and comparing them to animals which was played for comedic effect.
John - MOR - he had a brief disagreement with Rachel but otherwise not too important.
Jonny - MOR - he was a little more vocal this time with the fact he got nominated and they talked about it but he was still unimportant.
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Malika - MOR - she had a secret task and was vocal every now and again but not important.
Rachel - MORN - she argued with John briefly and Wayne picked apart problems with her always asking too many questions and talking about it to her for a fairly long amount of time while she admitted to these flaws, and she also nominated Jonny which she viewed as being a negative action to do.
Shane J - CPP - he was opening up about a threesome he had with two women and other insightful stories and even though his interactions with Andrew were positive, he was more vocal and thoughtful in thinking about it and was a stand-out character again in how articulate he was being.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Wayne - UTRN - his mood was going a little sour with Rachel in how he had these problems deployed on her, but otherwise wasn't important

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and with the fact the live crowd was highlighted tonight, it's the end of week 2. Either India or Jonny will go down as the first ever evictee to last three edgic blocks.

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Day 9

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Andrew - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Ann - MOR - she was a little vocal but didn't do much of importance
Ashley - MORP - the showmance with Ginuwine is definitely building up and getting more talked about for positive reasons
Daniel - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Ginuwine - MORP - see Ashley
India - CPM - A few females have went off her and accused her of victimizing such as Amanda, and several pointed out how they definitely want Jonny to stay over her, but she mended things with Andrew and spoke positively of Ashley and in the diary room brought up regrets about past behavior she did in the hope she can get another chance.
Jess - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
John - MOR - him and Courtney talked for a few moments about Donald Trump and Bill Cosby but not much otherwise.
Jonny - UTRP - he didn't do anything of importance but Malika, Andrew and a few others spoke positively about him and hoped he'd survive the eviction.
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Malika - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Rachel - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Shane J - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Wayne - UTRP - he had a few brief playful arguments with the boys but wasn't too important otherwise.

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Day 10

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Andrew - OTTP - he had really overly positive bonding things with Courtney like them sharing a bath and one of them shaving the other's legs and his DR about him.
Ann - UTRN - she didn't do much of importance but she had a brief spar with Shane J where she was being abrupt and moody with him.
Ashley - MORP - the Ginuwine stuff made her fairly important.
Daniel - UTR - he was fairly vocal but he didn't do much of importance
Ginuwine - MORP - see Ashley
India - CPM - A few housemates like Daniel and Malika talked badly of her but she also had a DR and outside lines about having regrets about how she's behaved and had more of a sympathy edit going on.
Jess - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
John - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Jonny - UTRP - he didn't do anything of importance but a few people spoke positively about why they hope he's safe.
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Malika - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Rachel - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane J - MORP - he had positive stuff with Andrew but he didn't big it up as much as Andrew did.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Wayne - UTRP - he caused a few housemates to bashfully laugh from things like singing and flashing his dick.

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Day 11

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Andrew - CPP - the house were speculating about his stuff with Courtney/Shane J and he gave insight about it too, as well as in-depth conversations with Courtney as well as a brief altercation with Jess he talked about.
Ann - UTRM - she didn't do much of importance but she had a briefly somewhat funny chat with Ginuwine and Ashley about being the nan figure of approving them, but Courtney still complained about her in the bathroom, though this was still redeemed a little by Courtney recalling how Ann still said she'd be happy to have someone like Shane J as a son.
Ashley - MORP - the Ginuwine stuff made her fairly important.
Daniel - MOR - he was fairly vocal but he didn't do much of importance
Ginuwine - MORP - see Ashley
India - UTR - She didn't do much of importance.
Jess - UTR - she didn't do much of importance, and a minor disagreement with Andrew wasn't enough.
John - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Jonny - UTRP - he didn't do anything of importance but a few people spoke positively about why they hope he's safe along with being happy he was..
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance
Malika - UTR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Rachel - UTR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane J - CPP - see Andrew.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Wayne - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.

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And now Week 3 is over, finally with a first evictee too

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Day 12

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Andrew - OTTP - his positive stuff with Courtney was very over-the-top along with his general demeanor
Ann - MORM - she stuck up for the boys not getting to eat anything after the girls won the task and went to Big Brother to complain about it, along with being welcomed by the boys about it and generally being more happy than she usually is. But her conflict with Rachel is definitely getting a little bigger now.
Ashley - CPM - the Ginuwine stuff made her fairly important, though this time some housemates were speculating if it was real or genuine.
Daniel - UTRP - he didn't do much of importance but he had a DR where he opened up about sad homesick feelings he was having.
Ginuwine - MORM - see Ashley except he was less complex.
Jess - UTR - she didn't do much of importance apart from the task.
John - UTR - he didn't do anything of importance
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do anything of importance.
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance
Malika - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance.
Rachel - OTTN - she freaked out over margarine that was exaggerated a little by Marcus, she had over-the-top minor disagreements with Ann, Andrew and Wayne that were done in comical ways, Wayne complained about her to Shane J and Andrew, and the three all went on a tangent about how a little hard she can be to be around.
Shane J - OTTP - see Andrew.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance besides one DR.
Wayne - MORM - he had a positive DR about appreciating being in the lads along with a couple of minor moments of adoration by them but his conflict with Rachel is starting to build up.

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Day 13

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance
Andrew - CPM - he had a detailed squabble with Ann that included an apology to her for an inappropriate joke he made, though she went in-depth about her issues with his sense of humor and he clarified what he thought about her in the diary room.
Ann - CPN - see Andrew except she was more cold and negative.
Ashley - CPM - the Ginuwine stuff was much more detailed and screen-heavy, but her negativity came from the breaking rule of shutting off her mic and doing affection with him after complaining about his attitude.
Daniel - UTR - he didn't do anything of importance.
Ginuwine - CPM - see Ashley
Jess - UTRP - she got emotional about meditation and was consoled about it with the housemates complimenting her but she wasn't important otherwise.
John - UTR - he didn't do anything of importance
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do anything of importance.
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance
Malika - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance.
Rachel - MORM - she had a brief argument with Ann and they played back Wayne's problems with her that included bitching about her, but she gave Wayne a forgiving hug as well.
Shane J - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Wayne - OTT - he had an over-the-top bubble bath with bathing from Amanda and asking her to do more, the reveal of him discussing nominations got exaggerated by housemates reactions, as was his punishment.

[lewis111]

It's annoying that it's almost constantly the same HMs UTR

[RileyH]

Malika - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance.

She helped get Ash & Ginuwine back together

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She helped get Ash & Ginuwine back together

But she was still in the background and that still wasn't really important since it was more just her being an understudy to something else.

[Rufus]

Has Shane L been UTR like every HL show?

[reece(:]

Has Shane L been UTR like every HL show?
I had him on MORP2... once.

[reece(:]

https://i.imgur.com/ekKYDzc.png

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Day 14

Amanda - MORM - she was fairly vocal during the episode, consoling Ann and Rachel when they predicted they'd be nommed during and after it happened, and moments of very extroverted bonding with Ann of feeding her biscuits and having a great time with Wayne, though her attending to Ann looks slightly off given Ann's somewhat negative reputation.
Andrew - CP - he was speaking his mind a lot about how he thinks some housemates are acting, about how he wants to win, and a discussion with Shane J at the end that suggested possible game-playing by him.
Ann - MORM - she got on with Amanda and Rachel throughout the episode but there was also a DR by Rachel about why she's starting to get more annoyed with her and them briefly clashing in the smoking area.
Ashley - MORM - she had positive stuff with Ginuwine but she was also labelled by Andrew as maybe not showing who she really is.
Daniel - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Ginuwine - MOR - see Ashley except he was toneless.
Jess - UTRM - the lad group talked **** about her briefly with one or two minor compliments, but she was unimportant otherwise.
John - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance
Malika - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Rachel - CP - she had a complex view about why she'd be nominated, and then why she was nominated in the aftermath of it. her conflict with Ann is also starting to grow more in-depth from her side.
Shane J - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Wayne - UTRP - he had one small moment of getting along with Amanda but wasn't that important otherwise.

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Day 15

Amanda - MOR - she was pretty vocal but unimportant.
Andrew - CPN - he evaluated how/why he wanted to stay and wanting to win immunity, including a DR about it, but after they revealed him talking about nominations Ann was wary of him and the other lads in the diary room for it and he also had an idea people were bitching about him not backed up by anything.
Ann - CPN - she had a grumpy beginning of Big Brother waking her up early and why she was annoyed by it, along with her diary room of being skeptical of the nominations rule breaking, and an end-footage of Andrew talking negatively of her.
Ashley - MOR - her Ginuwine stuff was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Daniel - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Ginuwine - MOR - see Ashley.
Jess - MORP - she was somewhat more visible and had more lines with regulated positivity.
John - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance
Malika - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Rachel - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane J - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Wayne - OTT - he recounted an over-the-top story of how he managed to push past someone who was pushing him in a tight line and got past everyone, and in a flexing session in the swimming pool everyone watched over.

[Natawho]

I love that most of Ginuwine's entries are "See Ashley."

Most irrelevant HM of all time?

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Day 16

Amanda - MOR - she was pretty vocal but unimportant.
Andrew - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Ann - CPN - the housemates are continuing their speculation and tirades to her about how she can be pretty intimidating and she's getting evaluated the most out of everyone in there. the edit is really bigging her up as a forceful house figure based on how the others describe her.
Ashley - MOR - her Ginuwine stuff was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Daniel - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Ginuwine - MOR - see Ashley.
Jess - UTRP - she had one small positive light moment with Shane J of her impersonating Ann but not much else besides that.
John - UTR - he didn't do much of importance
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do anything of importance.
Maggie - UTRN - she didn't do much of importance but she had a minor argument with Ann upon being put up for eviction by her, including a rather negative DR.
Malika - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Rachel - MORM - she wasn't too important herself but she was stuffed in alongside Rachel when housemates were talking about negative presences. But Andrew and Wayne reassured her when she said that Ann called her a grump, giving her that small edge of positivity.
Shane J - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane L - UTRP - he didn't do much of importance but he had a shortly positive DR about sharing a bed with John.
Wayne - OTT - his failures in the task were bigged up as being extravagantly awful, and he had a comical moment near the end of sharing a bed with Ashley and Ginuwine. He was a very over-the-top presence, though minor

[Rufus]

I would say Ann was more OTTN tonight as she made herself very important during the nomination of Maggie where a lot of housemates were talking negative of her and she also being very loud in the driving task.

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I would say Ann was more OTTN tonight as she made herself very important during the nomination of Maggie where a lot of housemates were talking negative of her and she also being very loud in the driving task.

Maybe, but OTTN would imply it was very exaggerated and comical whereas Ann last night was quite detailed and articulate.

Day 17

Amanda - MOR - she was pretty vocal but unimportant.
Andrew - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Ann - MORN - she grated on the housemates but it was less important.
Ashley - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance.
Daniel - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Ginuwine - UTR - he didn't do anything of importance.
Jess - OTTP - she had a big blow-up argument over work ethic and had people on her side, she wasn't really having anyone challenging her so it was very out-there in how her reaction + other's were as well.
John - UTR - he didn't do anything of importance
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Maggie - MORP - she was fairly vocal but unimportant, but she did comfort Jess on the bed.
Malika - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Rachel - OTT - she got drunk and also did an improv rap.
Shane J - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Wayne - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.

[RileyH]

:skull: @ only 3 people not on UTR/MOR

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Day 18

Amanda - MORM - she had a light-hearted positive task with Wayne with a bonding session afterwards, but she got slight negativity from how Ashley said her and Ann were ganging up on her.
Andrew - MORN - he wasn't too important but he had a negative argument with Jonny towards the end of the episode.
Ann - OTTN - Drunk as OWLS.
Ashley - CPM - her arguments with Ann were very detailed and emphasized from her size and she brought up a lot how she was feeling + other housemates speculating about it like Andrew and Jonny.
Daniel - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Ginuwine - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Jess - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
John - CPN - homophobic + it was talked about after about how his mindset works with it.
Jonny - MORM - he had an argument with Andrew about the Ashley/Ann feud but Jonny was displayed slightly more positively due to defending Ann during the argument.
Maggie - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance.
Malika - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Rachel - OTT - she got joy out of getting Daniel to say who he's more attracted to between Jess and Malika.
Shane J - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane L - UTRP - he looked on the bright side of the debate task that had the house wound up and came out looking optimistic from it.
Wayne - OTTP - he spilled his drink after him and Amanda celebrated winning the task together and bonded with her. He had a minor squabble with Daniel but quickly made up to him in an expressive manner.

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finally week 4 is over. reduced the week count back to the max eight due to the date of the final being confirmed. i also re-structured how the chart looks and i think it's designed better this way below.

https://i.imgur.com/hnmarb3.png

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Day 19

Amanda - MORP - she wasn't too important but she was shown getting along with Ann and Jess and being generally supportive.
Andrew - MORN - he had a minor tiff with Jonny at the beginning and was somewhat prominent throughout the episode.
Ann - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Ashley - MORM - she was acting motivated to win the task on behalf of her women team, though the lads were wary of what her and Ginuwine were doing.
Daniel - CPP - there was background given about his former comedy past and Andrew bringing up how vulnerable he is and how much it means to him to Wayne and his final DR presented him in a positive light.
Ginuwine - MORN - see Ashley except he was more negative.
Jess - MORP - she was eager to win the task and also had brief moments of getting along with Amanda.
John - MOR - he was vocal but unimportant.
Jonny - UTRM - he had a somewhat positive DR about his viewpoint on things but Andrew still complained about him.
Malika - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane J - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane L - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Wayne - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.

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Day 20

Amanda - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Andrew - CPM - his stuff with Shane J was talked about in-depth by the housemates as to how they really feel about each other and he had his own detailed explanations too, though Ann cited he may be playing a game and some housemates were still slightly skeptical.
Ann - MORN - she was portrayed as quite grumpy and the housemates brought it up once or twice.
Ashley - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Daniel - CPP - he had this redemption-style mentioning by the females about how he wants to redeem his public image and him being saved gave established pride over it.
Ginuwine - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Jess - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
John - MOR - he was vocal but unimportant.
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Malika - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane J - CPM - see Andrew.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Wayne - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.

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Day 21

Amanda - UTRP - she wasn't important but she had a brief sweet moment with Wayne.
Andrew - OTT - he had over-the-top buddying up with Shane J.
Ann - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Ashley - UTRP - she wasn't important but she had a brief sweet moment with Ginuwine.
Daniel - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Ginuwine - UTRP - see Ashley
Jess - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Malika - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Shane J - OTT - see Andrew.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Wayne - UTRP - see Amanda

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Day 22

Amanda - UTRP - she wasn't important but she had a brief sweet moment with Jess.
Andrew - CPM - Wayne and Shane J were slightly skeptical of him, and Shane J challenged him slightly on how he wanted to get with Ashley despite Ginuwine leaving slightly beforehand but he still had a somewhat positive demeanor with most of the aforementioned people.
Ann - MORM - A few girls and Shane J were acting wary of her but Jess said to her in the bedroom about how much she's improved and matured her and Ann was fairly appreciative of her.
Ashley - MORP - she wasn't too important but Andrew talked about her towards the end of the episode and she had a positive DR about being sad about Ginuwine's departure.
Daniel - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Ginuwine - UTRP - Malika and Ashley were both acting like they missed him.
Jess - MORP - she had a positive fleshed out moment with Ann and Amanda.
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Malika - CP - she had her own mini-storyline of wanting to quit due to the task rules but then after Ginuwine's departure felt like she'd continue taking on the challenge of the series.
Shane J - CP - his ideas about Ann and especially Andrew felt in-depth and expanded on and he was outspoken about how he felt on things.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Wayne - MORP - he was supportive of Shane J in relation to Andrew.

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and here's week 5

https://i.imgur.com/l3K1OON.png

[RileyH]

Malika being completely toneless :skull:

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Day 23

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Andrew - CPN - He made lewd sexual comments about women and called Ann a ****, both of these subject matters having a couple housemates complaining about him to back him up and none of the housemates supporting the attitude he displayed. Nearly gave him OTTN, but there was enough complexity to his awful attitude for him to be CPN instead.
Ann - CPN - She was generally criticized for bringing Andrew's family into her nominations reasons and had a diary room about her detailed confusion as to why she wasn't nominating, believing the house dislike her.
Ashley - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Daniel - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Jess - OTTP - she was praised for winning the task for the girls, there was a light-hearted OTT moment involving her hunger.
Jonny - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant
Malika - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Shane J - MORM - he was fairly vocal but unimportant., though Ann briefly slated him and Andrew's antics, though he briefly stuck up for her when Andrew called her a ****
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Wayne - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.

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Day 24

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance.
Andrew - UTRN - He tried to hash out his differences with Ann but had a generally negative demeanor about it and called her a ****ing witch which shown two-facedness, but he was unimportant otherwise.
Ann - UTRN - She had a brief squabble with Andrew over their argument the previous day but was unimportant otherwise
Ashley - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Daniel - UTRP - he didn't do much of importance but he presented the entertainment show for the housemates that they enjoyed.
Jess - OTTP - she made a couple housemates in the smoking area laugh with some story about cucumbers and gonorrhea, and she won the Yes/No game, which the housemates cheered her on for. Both of these situations were very over-the-top.
Jonny - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Malika - UTR - she didn't do anything of importance.
Shane J - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do anything of importance.
Wayne - UTR - he didn't do anything of importance.

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Day 25

Amanda - MORP - she was shown briefly getting along with Wayne and Ann at various points.
Andrew - CP - Shane J talked in the diary room about what it felt like to get to know Andrew, Ann analysed how Shane J has changed Andrew, etc.
Ann - CPN - The house and the editing was firmly against her, rolling her eyes at compliments Shane J was giving to Wayne, getting annoyed by Shane J and Andrew enjoying themselves, Malika antagonizing her as being miserable, even Wayne went in on her.
Ashley - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Daniel - MORP - he wasn't too important but there were a couple of short scenes going over how he felt like he's a changed and improved person from the experience.
Jess - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Jonny - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Malika - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Shane J - CPM - he clashed with Ann throughout the episode and he went over how it felt to be friends with Andrew, being quite mixed and a big character of the episode.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do anything of importance.
Wayne - MORP - Him and Shane J had an appreciative conversation about what it was like to meet each other and he supported Shane J about Ann's earlier clashing with him, also bonding with the younger housemates in the jacuzzi.

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week 6 - the penultimate week - is now over. i decided to shorten it to seven weeks due to the fact that the time separating the semi-final and final is only one highlight show so really they count as the same week, unless they make the final Friday instead, then i can make things eight weeks again. it's the same reason Jenna/Janice i would call making the last week of their series as there was only one short highlight show they weren't in, the same going for Alex/Sam in the regular BB.

https://i.imgur.com/hIrAtuv.png

Hoping Ashley or Malika get evicted next to balance out how the chart currently looks.

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Day 26

Amanda - MORM - she had a somewhat big and negative argument with Shane J towards the end but was doing so to stick up for her friend Ann.
Ann - CPM - Shane J and Malika were giving lots of negative descriptiveness about her and her views and how it felt to live with her due to it, but Wayne, Amanda, Shane L and Ashley were all in her defense and she had equally light-hearted moments with the moany and grumpy ones.
Ashley - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Jess - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Malika - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane J - CPN - he had an extensive problem with Ann during the episode that was never shaped in a positive way and he was seen as argumentative and hard to suss out throughout the episode, especially towards the end of it.
Shane L - UTRP - he didn't do much of importance, but he was appreciative of Ann and turned down reading his letter from home out of respect for how insecure he gets in relation to hearing from his family while he's working abroad.
Wayne - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.

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Day 27

Amanda - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Ann - MORP - She was fairly vocal but unimportant, but then she had a light-hearted moment by joining other housemates in the jacuzzi and was praised for her openness about it.
Ashley - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Jess - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Malika - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Shane J - CPM - he got criticized a number of times by housemates for how he was with Ann and his demeanor lately but he was still shown getting along with people several times. He was also shown struggling at feeling accepted by the house, which some housemates were sympathetic towards him for.
Shane L - UTRP - He didn't do much of importance but when he got nominated Ann was annoyed by it because she thought he didn't deserve it.
Wayne - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.

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Day 28

Amanda - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Ann - OTT - She had a meltdown over the task to be a spice girl but it wasn't really negative since no housemate treated it as such and she still did it afterwards so it was moreso cartoonish than cartoonishly negative.
Ashley - MORP - she wrote an appreciative poem to Malika and was appreciative to Ann.
Jess - UTR - she didn't do much of importance.
Malika - CPP - she had a diary room about missing home and getting teary-eyed about it as well as being supported and sympathized with by a few housemates.
Shane J - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane L - UTR - He didn't do much of importance.
Wayne - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.

Also found out the final actually IS on Friday so another 8 week series it is then actually. Will be posting week seven after the edgics tomorrow night and then week 8 will base on thursday and friday's shows.

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Day 29

Amanda - MORN - she inadvertedly upset Jess in a debating task over whether or not it's acceptable for someone to have sex on tv and reduced Jess to tears and made her feel upset by how Amanda was acting.
Ann - CP - She had a diary room about why she's shocked she's in the final and Shane J and Wayne went in-depth about how she's been acting and who she is.
Ashley - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Jess - CPP - she went self-conscious after the debating task that included multiple housemates feeling it wrong for someone to have sex on tv and felt upset and self-conscious. It was backed up as positive by Shane J and Shane L's encouragement to her during the HL show.
Malika - MOR - she was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane J - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Shane L - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.
Wayne - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.

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the penultimate week down below. slightly altered shane l's first week and jess' sixth.

https://i.imgur.com/nrUpIv3.png

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Day 30

Ann - OTTM - Her reactions to Ginuwine and India's tasks were over-the-top, arguing against what they were saying, especially India, getting into an argument with her over her opinion of Ann. However, Rachel and Amanda both acted very pleased to see her and delighted she's made it all the way to the final. She also briefly got on with Daniel after they played a song she really liked, even though it was an old one the housemates weren't too fond of.
Jess - MORP - it was revealed that the thing she said about the cucumbers that had salmonella to be correct, which she was happy about, also beating Daniel at the Yes/No game and being happy about it.
Shane J - OTTP - His reunion with Andrew was very overhyped as being a fantastic event due to Jess and Rachel both being very insightful about their affections. Shane J was also extremely happy about it, and received a number of encouraging words from India and Maggie.
Shane L - UTR - he didn't do much of importance.
Wayne - MOR - he was fairly vocal but unimportant.

[Rufus]

There wasn't a final hl's show so are you going to post the final table?

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There wasn't a final hl's show so are you going to post the final table?

Yeah i am, because last night's HL technically count as the one week since the final still counts as a second show, rounding things off to eight weeks.

And with that said here's the final results

https://i.imgur.com/vvvfvgY.png

Fun Facts:

-This series has had the most amount of UTRPs of any series with 8 overall
-This series took the longest amount of CBB weeks to get a first evictee, India taking up to three live shows.
-Malika is officially the most toneless housemate ever, not counting ones who got evicted early. She lasted all the way to the near-end of the series, and only ever got one tone rating of MORP. Shaun Williamson previously held the record for being UTR the whole way through with one UTRP at the beginning, but he had 5 toneless ratings in a row whereas Malika had 6 in a row so she's the new champ of tonelessness.
-The first evictee was a CPN overall while the winner was a CPP.
-This is the only time that the last week only has one HL show due to the final not having any but still being a show.