Gove policy deciphered

[Kizzy]

'Michael Gove will set out proposals to replace EU farming subsidies with new incentives to reward landowners for environmentally friendly practices after Brexit.

The Environment Secretary plans to scrap the much-criticised Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) in favour of subsidies for farmers who try to enhance the natural environment by planting woods, creating wildflower meadows and providing habitats for wildlife.'

Explanation.... My landowning fwends cannot provide any of their vast swathes of land for affordable housing as it is a protected nature habitat, what's more I will pay them for keeping to oiks off their land!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-farmers-reward-environmentally-friendly-michael-gove-a8140556.html

[Beso]

The johnsons are a farming family....bravo....not.

[Livia]

I live in the countryside and I can say that poverty exists here too. Subsidies need to be considered now we're leaving the EU so I'm not sure what the problem is here.

[jaxie]

Dreadful evil farmers who sit in their Meadows all day in a deck chair while the rest of us struggle!

I know we can all start to keep a cow like the old days in the front garden or on tower block balconies! Then the supermarkets can do away with the pittance they pay farmers for milk altogether! And we can throw all the **** out onto unsuspecting passers by. Garde loo!

[Livia]

Dreadful evil farmers who sit in their Meadows all day in a deck chair while the rest of us struggle!

I know we can all start to keep a cow like the old days in the front garden or on tower block balconies! Then the supermarkets can do away with the pittance they pay farmers for milk altogether! And we can throw all the **** out onto unsuspecting passers by. Garde loo!

Is that what you people south of the Thames do? I find it easy to believe. :-)

[Crimson Dynamo]

cost of petrol in edinbugh at mo 110p

cost of rural perthshire petrol at mo 124p


:skull:

[bots]

The farming subsidies as they currently stand are due to continue until 2024, long after the next General election will have been fought and won. This is moaning for the sake of it, pure and simple.

[jaxie]

Is that what you people south of the Thames do? I find it easy to believe. :-)

Yeah but I'm having trouble getting enough grass onto the patio to feed the cow. It doesn't grow fast enough. The **** pile grows faster. :laugh:

OP can come round and milk it if she likes.

[Kizzy]

'Farmers will get subsidies for turning fields back into wildflower meadows after Brexit, according to environment secretary Michael Gove.

More than 97% of the UK’s wildflower meadows have been destroyed since the second world war and their loss has played a significant role in the falling numbers of bees, birds and other wildlife.

In a speech to the Oxford Farming Conference on Thursday, Gove will make his clearest statement to date that the current subsidy regime – which largely rewards ownership of land – will be replaced by a scheme focused on supporting environmental benefits such as tree planting, wildlife and improving water quality.'


I thought that following brexit we would be getting more 'self sufficient' as in providing more foodstuffs for ourselves, how is this policy conducive to this?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jan/04/farmland-could-be-turned-into-meadows-post-brexit-says-michael-gove

[Kizzy]

I live in the countryside and I can say that poverty exists here too. Subsidies need to be considered now we're leaving the EU so I'm not sure what the problem is here.

The problem is, the subsidy is not to continue farming... but to stop.

[Oliver_W]

I'd rather see the countryside maintained instead of built on. Utilise brownfield land instead of ruining the green.

[Livia]

The problem is, the subsidy is not to continue farming... but to stop.

Of course.

[Kizzy]

I'd rather see the countryside maintained instead of built on. Utilise brownfield land instead of ruining the green.

Brownfield is contaminated land... wouldn't it make more sense to allow that to return to meadow and build elsewhere?

[Oliver_W]

Brownfield is contaminated land... wouldn't it make more sense to allow that to return to meadow and build elsewhere?

It's not always contaminated:
Brownfield land is an Anglo-American term used in urban planning to describe, in Western Europe, any previously developed land that is not currently in use, whether contaminated or not, more specifically to describe land previously used for industrial or commercial purposes.

It's better to not ruin the countryside just to build more houses.

[Kizzy]

It's not always contaminated:


It's better to not ruin the countryside just to build more houses.

If it isn't contaminated then why is it brownfield not greenfield?

[Oliver_W]

If it isn't contaminated then why is it brownfield not greenfield?

It's just a term for unused urbanised or otherwise developed land.

[Kizzy]

It's just a term for unused urbanised or otherwise developed land.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/land-remediation-bringing-brownfield-sites-back-to-use/land-remediation-bringing-brownfield-sites-back-to-use