An unpopular opinion ...

[Morgan.]

This isnt the unpopular opinion, but the context. I'll get to the opinion later. Stephen Bear was an atrocious person who enjoyed seeing other people riled up and angry. He enjoyed intimidating people. And when I saw him on Celebs Go Dating he enjoyed standing up young girls before a date and telling the waiter to let them know he had to leave because he left the chicken in the oven, before running out the back door.

Now here is the unpopular opinion. It took me a very long time to reach this conclusion due to how much I despise the creature - but Stephen Bear was actually a good housemate (:worry:). For the little money he was payed, he managed to create Drama and entertainment (if you can call it that) in almost every single Highlights Show, and got the nation talking. Still doesn't change how much I hated him, but he was a good housemate.

Now whilst I'm here and have your attention, a question. Would Stephen Bear have received as much hate as he did on TiBB if he was female? Because I certainly think he would have had a few more fans on her if he was female.

And with that; discuss.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

he wasn’t a good housemate though bc that entire series revolved around him acting like an absolute dickhead and it got really exhausting really quickly

[Epic.]

No he absolutely wouldn't, I certainly wouldn't approve of liking a woman who enjoys staring people down and laughing at their misfortune or screaming in their face or overusing tired and awful phrases to goad people, or how they'd do horribly harmful childlike humor to transparently appeal to the lowest common denominator, not to mention painfully cringe, unfunny and boring in repeated bullying for no reason. And just because you 'provide talking points' shouldn't automatically mean you're a great housemate. You being a great housemate is what makes you a great housemate. Getting people talking shouldn't be the reason. I hate the whole theory that 'If it was a female TiBB would be loving them' because there's no actual evidence or substance behind it. When you're this level of vile, this level of intolerable aggression, this level of anti-social disdain towards everyone you're living with, gender is irrelevant

[RileyH]

No, that's stupid

He wasn't a good housemate and deserved less than what he got. Utter ****

[Vicky.]

Bear was an amazing housemate :laugh: I genuinely cannot understand how anyone can think differently on this. Though I know they do...just cannot get in that mindset :laugh:

[Ant.]

What Scott, Epic, and RileyH said

My opinions can never be as well articulated or better put across as Epic's ranking of him did

[Morgan.]

No he absolutely wouldn't, I certainly wouldn't approve of liking a woman who enjoys staring people down and laughing at their misfortune or screaming in their face or overusing tired and awful phrases to goad people, or how they'd do horribly harmful childlike humor to transparently appeal to the lowest common denominator, not to mention painfully cringe, unfunny and boring in repeated bullying for no reason. And just because you 'provide talking points' shouldn't automatically mean you're a great housemate. You being a great housemate is what makes you a great housemate. Getting people talking shouldn't be the reason. I hate the whole theory that 'If it was a female TiBB would be loving them' because there's no actual evidence or substance behind it. When you're this level of vile, this level of intolerable aggression, this level of anti-social disdain towards everyone you're living with, gender is irrelevant

There were times when Kim Woodburn was vile and really quite horrible to some of her housemates. Yes, a lot wasn't as exhausting or as horrible as Bear but she still said some nasty stuff yet is hailed as a 'legend', 'icon' and other like terms on TiBB.

[RileyH]

There were times when Kim Woodburn was vile and really quite horrible to some of her housemates. Yes, a lot wasn't as exhausting or as horrible as Bear but she still said some nasty stuff yet is hailed as a 'legend', 'icon' and other like terms on TiBB.

I don't like either
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[Jason.]

This is why 16 year old's shouldn't vote.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

This is why 16 year old's shouldn't vote.

:joker::joker::joker:

[Morgan.]

No he absolutely wouldn't, I certainly wouldn't approve of liking a woman who enjoys staring people down and laughing at their misfortune or screaming in their face or overusing tired and awful phrases to goad people, or how they'd do horribly harmful childlike humor to transparently appeal to the lowest common denominator, not to mention painfully cringe, unfunny and boring in repeated bullying for no reason. And just because you 'provide talking points' shouldn't automatically mean you're a great housemate. You being a great housemate is what makes you a great housemate. Getting people talking shouldn't be the reason. I hate the whole theory that 'If it was a female TiBB would be loving them' because there's no actual evidence or substance behind it. When you're this level of vile, this level of intolerable aggression, this level of anti-social disdain towards everyone you're living with, gender is irrelevant

Also I think getting the nation talking does make a good housemate because it just proves that peop,e are getting invested in the show. If no one is talking about the show it just shows it's boring.

I've had to look behind him as a person for his, scrap it, and take him as a housemate.
- provided talking points
- created many different storylines; the clique of Marnie, Lewis and Bear, Renee and their conflict, Saira and their conflict, Heavy D and their on-off friendship, Chloe and their relationship
- was a prominent character in every Highlights Show
- entertained despite the size of the paycheck

Now if you removed names from that and blanked Bear from your mind, that would sum up a great housemate.

[RichardG]

nothing entertaining about bear

he was an awful housemate

[Vanessa]

He was a brilliant housemate , and very funny :laugh:

[Ant.]

There were times when Kim Woodburn was vile and really quite horrible to some of her housemates. Yes, a lot wasn't as exhausting or as horrible as Bear but she still said some nasty stuff yet is hailed as a 'legend', 'icon' and other like terms on TiBB.

This is coming from someone who is way more team Nicola than Kim and someone who took issue with quite a lot of what Kim said, but the difference is Kim was never malicious in what she said. She was just mistaken and defensive. We saw her break down and struggle and while it doesn't excuse what she said, when you put it in context to how Bear acted out and stood girls up and isolated people for no reason, it becomes clear the comparison of Kim and Bear is bullcrap

[Morgan.]

This is why 16 year old's shouldn't vote.

I wouldn't have voted for Bear anyway, I hated him, but when you look at their qualities as housemate then he was a good one.

[Morgan.]

He was a brilliant housemate , and very funny :laugh:

He was NOT funny.

[Ross.]

This is why 16 year old's shouldn't vote.

:joker::joker:

[Kazanne]

This isnt the unpopular opinion, but the context. I'll get to the opinion later. Stephen Bear was an atrocious person who enjoyed seeing other people riled up and angry. He enjoyed intimidating people. And when I saw him on Celebs Go Dating he enjoyed standing up young girls before a date and telling the waiter to let them know he had to leave because he left the chicken in the oven, before running out the back door.

Now here is the unpopular opinion. It took me a very long time to reach this conclusion due to how much I despise the creature - but Stephen Bear was actually a good housemate (:worry:). For the little money he was payed, he managed to create Drama and entertainment (if you can call it that) in almost every single Highlights Show, and got the nation talking. Still doesn't change how much I hated him, but he was a good housemate.

Now whilst I'm here and have your attention, a question. Would Stephen Bear have received as much hate as he did on TiBB if he was female? Because I certainly think he would have had a few more fans on her if he was female.

And with that; discuss.


Bear was missing a few vital ingredients for Tibb to like him,no T&A, some don't seem to like men they want them out before they get in,lol

[Ant.]

Also I think getting the nation talking does make a good housemate because it just proves that peop,e are getting invested in the show. If no one is talking about the show it just shows it's boring.

I've had to look behind him as a person for his, scrap it, and take him as a housemate.
- provided talking points
- created many different storylines; the clique of Marnie, Lewis and Bear, Renee and their conflict, Saira and their conflict, Heavy D and their on-off friendship, Chloe and their relationship
- was a prominent character in every Highlights Show
- entertained despite the size of the paycheck

Now if you removed names from that and blanked Bear from your mind, that would sum up a great housemate.

Well no because you're dumbing it down. He provided many different storylines, yes, but were they entertaining? Besides Renee and his conflict, no. The Saira and clique conflict was NOT entertaining and not really a storyline - it was bullying.
Also, being a prominent character in a highlights show doesn't make him 'good'. He overshadowed many other characters, and while that would be somewhat bearable if he made for good television, he didn't, so it's not exactly a good point.

This is why 16 year old's shouldn't vote.

:joker:

[Marsh.]

He made me actually switch off the show and I never watched the remainder of the series.

So a good housemate he was not as he actually made me switch off.

[Epic.]

There were times when Kim Woodburn was vile and really quite horrible to some of her housemates. Yes, a lot wasn't as exhausting or as horrible as Bear but she still said some nasty stuff yet is hailed as a 'legend', 'icon' and other like terms on TiBB.

That's not the point. Kim isn't liked because she 'provides talking points' or 'is quite horrible to some of her housemates.' People liked her because she was hilarious in how she acted, her paranoia that she was against the mafia, her argumentative style, the fact that she was an elderly person with this infantile reaction to things like comparing herself to Jesus Christ.

I can't see how 'providing talking points' makes you a good housemate. If we're going by that logic, you may as well call Jack Tweed, Danielle Lloyd, and Jo O'Meara 'good housemates' simply for them providing talking points with CBB5. As I've echoed already what I care about is the behavior, and how it ruined thirty hours of television. And the gender thing you mentioned actually really annoys me because it's simply a consistently untrue theory. Take Pete Burns for example, who was incredibly hurtful when he wanted to be and highly insultive. But he's hailed as a legend or icon like Kim is because of the sharp wit in how he talks, his words, his clever actions, etc. and that's one of the many reasons people liked her as well. There's no wit behind what this disgusting goblin monster called 'Bear' did. He's a ****ing scoundrel and 'providing talking points' is irrelevant when you're a human ****.

[Ant.]

I wouldn't have voted for Bear anyway, I hated him, but when you look at their qualities as housemate then he was a good one.

babes I think he meant for like, the General Election, but sure

[Alf]

I disliked the girl who spat in his food far more. Bear didn't stoop to anything as digusting as that.

[Epic.]

Bear was missing a few vital ingredients for Tibb to like him,no T&A, some don't seem to like men they want them out before they get in,lol

Pete ****ing Burns

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I disliked the girl who spat in his food far more. Bear didn't stoop to anything as digusting as that.

queen!

[RileyH]

I disliked the girl who spat in his food far more. Bear didn't stoop to anything as digusting as that.

Aubrey is a goddess

AND he deserved it :nono:

[LukeB]

Pete ****ing Burns

Big John
Chad
etc

[Morgan.]

babes I think he meant for like, the General Election, but sure

Oh :joker:

[Morgan.]

What does Stephen Bear have to do with the General Election anyway :joker:

[Epic.]

I disliked the girl who spat in his food far more. Bear didn't stoop to anything as digusting as that.

He flung a glass at a mirror, he repeatedly jumped in people's faces to scream in their ears, he got Marnie to flash her tits at Saira, he pelvically thrusted against James Whale for no reason, blinded Samantha Fox's eye, called a gay housemate his 'little pussycat', stares at Renee with indifference, when she bawls crying about how horrible he is

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/04/16/36DD3B0200000578-3723844-image-a-2_1470325966238.jpg

[Ant.]

What does Stephen Bear have to do with the General Election anyway :joker:

I think the joke is 16 year olds should wait until they're 18 and are actually mature enough to have valid opinions about CBB, and then they can have their opinions on politics

/itsbigbrothernotbrexitadjustyourseriousnessaccordi ngly

[JerseyWins]

There were times when Kim Woodburn was vile and really quite horrible to some of her housemates. Yes, a lot wasn't as exhausting or as horrible as Bear but she still said some nasty stuff yet is hailed as a 'legend', 'icon' and other like terms on TiBB.
This

I still find Kim A LOT funnier but they're similar... a ton of childish, which can be seen as gross or offensive, behavior that is hilarious to watch but one is found hilarious while the other is despised. Hmm.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

This is why 16 year old's shouldn't vote.

I wouldn't have voted for Bear anyway, I hated him, but when you look at their qualities as housemate then he was a good one.

babes I think he meant for like, the General Election, but sure

What does Stephen Bear have to do with the General Election anyway :joker:


https://i.imgur.com/wFTvPit.png

[BBUK-Fan]

He was a great housemate

[RileyH]

He flung a glass at a mirror, he repeatedly jumped in people's faces to scream in their ears, he got Marnie to flash her tits at Saira, he pelvically thrusted against James Whale for no reason, blinded Samantha Fox's eye, called a gay housemate his 'little pussycat', stares at Renee with indifference, when she bawls crying about how horrible he is

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/04/16/36DD3B0200000578-3723844-image-a-2_1470325966238.jpg

:clap1::clap1:

[Marsh.]

There were times when Kim Woodburn was vile and really quite horrible to some of her housemates. Yes, a lot wasn't as exhausting or as horrible as Bear but she still said some nasty stuff yet is hailed as a 'legend', 'icon' and other like terms on TiBB.

I think because in that case Kim was right and the people she was calling out were exactly as she described them. Horrible bullies.

Whereas in Bear's case, he was the horrid bully.

[Epic.]

This

I still find Kim A LOT funnier but they're similar... a ton of childish, which can be seen as gross or offensive, behavior that is hilarious to watch but one is found hilarious while the other is despised. Hmm.

Hmmm, well I think the answer is that they're not similar at all :blush:

[Ant.]

https://i.imgur.com/wFTvPit.png

I'm the Pikachu

[Ant.]

I think the only housemate that comes close to Stephen Bear is, shockingly, a woman - Helen Wood

[Alf]

He flung a glass at a mirror, he repeatedly jumped in people's faces to scream in their ears, he got Marnie to flash her tits at Saira, he pelvically thrusted against James Whale for no reason, blinded Samantha Fox's eye, called a gay housemate his 'little pussycat', stares at Renee with indifference, when she bawls crying about how horrible he is

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/04/16/36DD3B0200000578-3723844-image-a-2_1470325966238.jpgExactly, not nearly as bad as spitting in someones food. I'm glad you agree.

[JerseyWins]

Bear doesn't attack people's characters. He acts like himself and messes with people without caring what people think of him (he's a dick in this way that he doesn't care if he bothers other people either but that's it), while he constantly takes attacks to his character for it.

He owns it, he takes the abuse in return, what is there to really dislike? Some childish, trivial behavior? Come on now.. It's entertaining and I respect the way he is compared to other housemates on that season with him. He's a unique one bringing the drama. :clap1:

[Marsh.]

Bear doesn't attack people's characters.

:joker:

[RileyH]

Bear doesn't attack people's characters. He acts like himself and messes with people without caring what people think of him (he's a dick in this way that he doesn't care if he bothers other people either but that's it), while he constantly takes attacks to his character for it.

He owns it, he takes the abuse in return, what is there to really dislike? Some childish, trivial behavior? Come on now.. It's entertaining and I respect the way he is compared to other housemates on that season with him. He's a unique one bringing the drama. :clap1:

you haven't even finished it yet tho

[Epic.]

He acts like himself and messes with people without caring what people think of him

:joker:

[Withano]

He made the entire series utterly unwatchable. If that isnt the definition of a terrible housemate, what is.

[reece(:]

Bear suffocated the series and ruined it

[JerseyWins]

It's pretty watchable IMO. :shrug:

[Amy Jade]

I disliked the girl who spat in his food far more. Bear didn't stoop to anything as digusting as that.

Cheated on his girlfriend on national tv

[reece(:]

It's pretty watchable IMO. :shrug:

For the lowest denominator :hehe:

[Amy Jade]

what is there to really dislike?
The fact he treats women like **** for starters.

[Alf]

Cheated on his girlfriend on national tvNah, not worse then spitting in someones food. The diseases she could have spread?

[Epic.]

Nah, not worse then spitting in someones food. The diseases she could have spread?

Bear already spread herpes by mere virtue of existing.

[Tom4784]

He was the reason I stopped watching that season because I found him and the constant focus on him tiring. I can never consider a housemate that made me stop watching for the most part to be a good one.

[Wizard.]

He's rot of the earth low life pond scum and I will not have this!

[Amy Jade]

Nah, not worse then spitting in someones food. The diseases she could have spread?

If he was that arsed about catching something he wouldn't have nacked on with Chloe Khan, plus he's riddled anyway.

[Withano]

He literally asked her to spit in his mouth the day after (she did, which was weird) but like the spit-argument doesnt really make sense after that request of his.

[JerseyWins]

He literally asked her to spit in his mouth the day after (she did, which was weird) but like the spit-argument doesnt really make sense after that request of his.
Part of it is the level of disrespect and sneakiness(?) -there's a better word for it that I can't think of right now- to do something like that behind someone's back. But still, Bear's response to it was pretty comical and makes it feel not so bad that Aubrey did something like that. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Besides, Bear has stuff like that coming to him tbh because of the way he acts, and he certainly gets it back to him, so how can people be THAT mad?

[caprimint]

Of course not, basically any male who receives hate would get less if they were female (probably not in general, but on TiBB at least)

[Marsh.]

Nah, not worse then spitting in someones food. The diseases she could have spread?

So could he sleeping around behind his girlfriend's back.

[Epic.]

Of course not, basically any male who receives hate would get less if they were female (probably not in general, but on TiBB at least)

Helen Wood
Danielle Lloyd
Jo O'Meara
Chloe Khan
Katie Hopkins
Cami-Li
Ellie Young
Kayleigh Morris

The gender theories on this site are ****ing annoying, and doesn't excuse the vileness someone does regardless of their gender, especially when the housemate is filth

[caprimint]

Helen Wood
Danielle Lloyd
Jo O'Meara
Chloe Khan
Katie Hopkins
Cami-Li
Ellie Young
Kayleigh Morris

The gender theories on this site are ****ing annoying, and doesn't excuse the vileness someone does regardless of their gender, especially when the housemate is filth
Helen and KT got as much support as hate if I remember correctly.

Fair enough with Chloe, Ellie and Kayleigh. Don't know about the others. None of these girls were trolls though, they were hated for being either in a showmance or for aggressive behaviour.

[JerseyWins]

Helen Wood
Danielle Lloyd
Jo O'Meara
Chloe Khan
Katie Hopkins
Cami-Li
Ellie Young
Kayleigh Morris

The gender theories on this site are ****ing annoying, and doesn't excuse the vileness someone does regardless of their gender, especially when the housemate is filth
Whether true or not I do think the gender debates get boring but it's kind of a relevant thing on TIBB so I'll leave it at that after explaining in this post.

The only females I've seen get consistent hate are the showmance-types and usually it's because the male is despised. There are rare exceptions obviously but it's a bit strange to me when it's the same thing over and over again over time and the gender scale is tipped SO far in the females direction.

For every hand full of hated females there are 50 hated males in the same boat and the hated females get more mixed reactions from the site. Males are not THAT vile in comparison lol. :joker: There are definitely females similar to Bear that get loved between BBUS/BBCAN/BBUK/Survivor etc.

[Withano]

Helen and KT got as much support as hate if I remember correctly.
.

Bear got (and still gets) a truck-load of love though, so I think their point still stands

[Marsh.]

Helen and KT got as much support as hate if I remember correctly. .

As did Perez Hilton and Stephen Bear. Bear won ffs. :joker:

[caprimint]

Bear got (and still gets) a truck-load of love though, so I think their point still stands
Hmm not really. Bear got and still gets way more hate than either of these girls imo and I think they both actually did/said worse things than he ever did.

[Macie Lightfoot]

There are definitely females similar to Bear that get loved between BBUS/BBCAN/BBUK/Survivor etc.

As someone who watches those shows and didn't watch Celebrity Big Bear, I would *LOVE* to know who some of these females are :3

[reece(:]

Whether true or not I do think the gender debates get boring but it's kind of a relevant thing on TIBB so I'll leave it at that after explaining in this post.

The only females I've seen get consistent hate are the showmance-types and usually it's because the male is despised. There are rare exceptions obviously but it's a bit strange to me when it's the same thing over and over again over time and the gender scale is tipped SO far in the females direction.

For every hand full of hated females there are 50 hated males in the same boat and the hated females get more mixed reactions from the site. Males are not THAT vile in comparison lol. :joker: There are definitely females similar to Bear that get loved between BBUS/BBCAN/BBUK/Survivor etc.

Miss Kayleigh Morris wasn't in a showmance and is universally despised?

[Ashley.]

Bear was an amazing housemate :laugh: I genuinely cannot understand how anyone can think differently on this. Though I know they do...just cannot get in that mindset :laugh:

Why is it so hard for you to believe? He's an arsehole. You've even said that yourself.

[Cal.]

I think because in that case Kim was right and the people she was calling out were exactly as she described them. Horrible bullies.

Whereas in Bear's case, he was the horrid bully.

https://i.imgur.com/wFTvPit.png

Nicola is NOT a bully!

[Ashley.]

Of course not, basically any male who receives hate would get less if they were female (probably not in general, but on TiBB at least)

I agree. But I think that's just down to the demographics of this forum, which do not represent the viewing public. In fact, in general it's the other way around - male housemates get away with a lot more than the females do.

[Jake.]

Nah, first series I switched off. Nothing about him made a good housemate for me, found him dull.

[y.winter]

Playing to the cameras and creating artificial drama with superficial means - it's everything that BB shouldn't be about.

On that alone, I disagree.

[Shaun]

Saying Bear is a good housemate is a bit like buying 12 dogs - 11 puppies and a rottweiler - and then remarking, when the rottweiler has torn the puppies to shreds and left a pile of blood and flesh - "at least I've got a dog left! :)"

[Marsh.]

https://i.imgur.com/wFTvPit.png

Nicola is NOT a bully!

Oooh mother bunny! MOTHER BUNNY!

[Epic.]

Playing to the cameras and creating artificial drama with superficial means - it's everything that BB shouldn't be about.

On that alone, I disagree.

Saying Bear is a good housemate is a bit like buying 12 dogs - 11 puppies and a rottweiler - and then remarking, when the rottweiler has torn the puppies to shreds and left a pile of blood and flesh - "at least I've got a dog left! :)"

:worship:

[jet]

I don't tune into BB to watch a spoilt toddler making the adults lives a misery.

[JerseyWins]

I've finished the season now and I'm glad to have seen that Bear may have been a dickhead/clown/idiot but he was actually the good guy in all of this! :omgno: (not because he won but because of how things transpired as the season went along)

It's not just he wasn't that bad, he was actually the GOOD defeating EVIL. :joker:

[Jodie.]

Great HM I’m sorry

[JerseyWins]

Great HM I’m sorry
GREAT housemate character and even a great person deep down. Rarely ever mean-spirited, always having a good time. :clap1: