You’re all misgendering India

[Northern Monkey]

Calling her “transgender”.She’s actually transsexual cos she had the chop.


I’m the only progressive one here

[Rob!]

King of LGBT rights?

[Smithy]

transsexual
tranzˈsɛkʃʊəl,transˈsɛkʃʊəl/Submit
noun
noun: transexual
1.
a person who emotionally and psychologically feels that they belong to the opposite sex.


Guess not :think:

[Wizard.]

Transgender is correct because she’s already had the surgery

[Jamie89]

Where is Vicky and the transumbrella?!

[Jamie89]

Transsexual people are transgender as well as transsexual basically, but not all transgender people are transsexual

[Vicky.]

I have posted the umbrella too much these past few days :laugh:

India is a transsexual. India presumably has sex dysphoria as India has had SRS. I don't see why anyone would have SRS without sex dysphoria.

India would come under both transsexual and transgender.

[Vicky.]

Also I don't think misgendering means what you think it means :laugh:

[Jamie89]

'sexy dysphoria' :skull:

[Jamie89]

I saw the edit :fan:

[Vicky.]

Yes..that was an odd one, even for me :D

[Morgan.]

Misgendering is when you refer to a female as male and vice Versa.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

still at least its not all confusing and will catch on with Joe Public ok...

[Parmy]

What i dont understand is why all the ones(i use that cause i will probably say the wrong word) i have seen have to dress so borderline slutty...

[ashlynewhite]

ann said she see's india as a he....so this is about passability , and maybe they feel india doesn't look the part to get the tittle.

[Jamie89]

ann said she see's india as a he....so this is about passability , and maybe they feel india doesn't look the part to get the tittle.

I don't think it's about that tbh. Maybe it is for Ann, but even if someone does 'pass' it can still happen. I've misgendered a transman friend of mine (and it is mortifying when you realise you've done it) but it would never have even crossed my mind he was born female when I met him (before I knew he was trans), noone would think he wasn't a man to meet him. It's just an easy mistake to make sometimes if you're thinking about it because of talking about their trans status. People slip up with words all the time without it meaning anything.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Where is Vicky and the transumbrella?![emoji23]

[Oliver_W]

What's the difference between transexual and transgender? I've seen the definitions of the two posted, but they're basically the same thing with different wording? Does that mean there is no difference? Or does transgender mean all the made up identities like "grey gender" or "agender" or "genderless" or whatever?

[Vicky.]

Transsexual is someone with sex dysphoria.

Transgender is everything from transsexual people to males with autogynephilia to crossdressers to even just feminine men or masculine women. Transgender is a ridiculously wide catchall phrase that means absolutely **** all as near every one of us comes under 'transgender' in some way.

[ChristmasNeeve]

What's the difference between transexual and transgender? I've seen the definitions of the two posted, but they're basically the same thing with different wording? Does that mean there is no difference? Or does transgender mean all the made up identities like "grey gender" or "agender" or "genderless" or whatever?What I gathered is transsexual only means transsexual but transgender means lots of different things including transsexual?

[Oliver_W]

Transsexual is someone with sex dysphoria.

Transgender is everything from transsexual people to males with autogynephilia to crossdressers to even just feminine men or masculine women. Transgender is a ridiculously wide catchall phrase that means absolutely **** all as near every one of us comes under 'transgender' in some way.

What I gathered is transsexual only means transsexual but transgender means lots of different things including transsexual?

Gotcha, transgender is the umbrella, transexuals are actually trans.

[Smithy]

What i dont understand is why all the ones(i use that cause i will probably say the wrong word) i have seen have to dress so borderline slutty...

Because they can dress however they want and it’s nothing to do with you?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

So what's is a Transformer?

[Gusto Brunt]

It's all gone disastrously wrong for India.

[Shaun]

Also I don't think misgendering means what you think it means :laugh:

Inconceivable!

[Vicky.]

So what's is a Transformer?

Thats what my autocorrect changed transwoman too, oddly enough :laugh: My spellcheck changed it to tradeswoman

[odd sock]

I don't like India's attitude but in a way I feel sorry for him/her because whatever he/she has had cut off and added they will never fully pass as a woman, the voice is to deep and the features and mannerisms are to masculine to get away with the so called transition, some trans can pull it off but sadly not India.

[Marsh.]

I don't like India's attitude but in a way I feel sorry for him/her because whatever he/she has had cut off and added they will never fully pass as a woman, the voice is to deep and the features and mannerisms are to masculine to get away with the so called transition, some trans can pull it off but sadly not India.

Is that not any different to very effeminate men and very masculine women though?

[odd sock]

Is that not any different to very effeminate men and very masculine women though? yes it is, they are not trying to change their gender.

[Marsh.]

yes it is, they are not trying to change their gender.

That's not what I was responding to though.

You were talking about them "passing" as a woman.

[odd sock]

That's not what I was responding to though.

You were talking about them "passing" as a woman.effeminate men are just that and butch girls also ... I don't get your point, they are not pretending to be someone of the opposite sex.

[y.winter]

Transsexual people are transgender as well as transsexual basically, but not all transgender people are transsexual

every square is a rectangle, not every rectangle is a square teas

[Marsh.]

effeminate men are just that and butch girls also ... I don't get your point, they are not pretending to be someone of the opposite sex.

I never said they were.

You said things like her deep voice stop her ever passing as a woman, but as you say, there are butch girls so having masculine features doesn't stop someone being and passing as, a woman.

Kathleen Turner played a transsexual for this reason. :laugh: