India and her disrespect for those who marched for the rights of her own community

[pontyboi]

What a self centred bitch.

I'm so greatful ive grown up in the world today where I can most of the time not be afraid of being openly gay.

She thinks that she's some new generation of person and deserves respect when Infact people marched for her rights to be who she is today and be able to live her life as she pleases and she has just **** on every person who has stuck up for her.

What if someone had these views on Martin Luther king or world war veterans In respect of them not having done anything to help their cause? She's An ungreatfull, attention seeking hypocrite.

I can see channel 5 producers right now planning on how to get her out.

She's trying to pull out the victim card and thank god this year the housemates have been able to have freedom of speech.

[rusticgal]

What a self centred bitch.

I'm so greatful ive grown up in the world today where I can most of the time not be afraid of being openly gay.

She thinks that she's some new generation of person and deserves respect when Infact people marched for her rights to be who she is today and be able to live her life as she pleases and she has just **** on every person who has stuck up for her.

What if someone had these views on Martin Luther king or world war veterans In respect of them not having done anything to help their cause? She's An ungreatfull, attention seeking hypocrite.

I can see channel 5 producers right now planning on how to get her out.

She's trying to pull out the victim card and thank god this year the housemates have been able to have freedom of speech.

Great post :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Miranda123]

What a self centred bitch.

I'm so greatful ive grown up in the world today where I can most of the time not be afraid of being openly gay.

She thinks that she's some new generation of person and deserves respect when Infact people marched for her rights to be who she is today and be able to live her life as she pleases and she has just **** on every person who has stuck up for her.

What if someone had these views on Martin Luther king or world war veterans In respect of them not having done anything to help their cause? She's An ungreatfull, attention seeking hypocrite.

I can see channel 5 producers right now planning on how to get her out.

She's trying to pull out the victim card and thank god this year the housemates have been able to have freedom of speech.

Well said, she does nothing for her community at all, its all about India

Nadia (BB5) did more for the transexual community than India could ever do, because instead of playing the victim, she just tried to be herself, and was loved for it

As the woman are the only ones voting for the first eviction, I hope they dont flinch from nominating her, as I think there's a good chance we could get rid!

[hijaxers]

What a self centred bitch.

I'm so greatful ive grown up in the world today where I can most of the time not be afraid of being openly gay.

She thinks that she's some new generation of person and deserves respect when Infact people marched for her rights to be who she is today and be able to live her life as she pleases and she has just **** on every person who has stuck up for her.

What if someone had these views on Martin Luther king or world war veterans In respect of them not having done anything to help their cause? She's An ungreatfull, attention seeking hypocrite.

I can see channel 5 producers right now planning on how to get her out.

She's trying to pull out the victim card and thank god this year the housemates have been able to have freedom of speech.

Well said , she has done herself and the community in general down badly here, I really think most viewers are quite shocked by her completely self centered behaviour and also by her HM's , so when she's first out - completely self inflicted , she'll also use that as a 'bandwagon' to jump on for her own personal pity party.

[Oliver_W]

When has she disrespected the LGBT people of before? I've never been to a march, but that doesn't make me any less B, or any more disrespectful.

[pontyboi]

When has she disrespected the LGBT people of before? I've never been to a march, but that doesn't make me any less B, or any more disrespectful.

She out right said on tonight's show that she doesnt acknowledge or respect the struggles the LGBTQ community went through decades ago so she can live her life as a woman today.

Even when I was 18 I was aware of the hardship they suffered but fought for their rights and have allways been appreciative of that yet India A NEWS REPORTER at the age of 50 something doesn't care her own people died for her rights or were imprissoned.

Just listen to Courtney/Shane who put it beautifully.

[luvjustin]

This, THIS.

Everything about this! I was ready to make a very similar post.

So ****ing frustrating to see somebody so informed. Its insulting. Courtney will continue to school her hopefully. Honestly, I would like India to chill and take some of it on board and learn from this experience.. but I just don't see it happening.

[luvjustin]

I just can't get my head around why she wants to distance her self from the LGBT community so much. She is part of it whether, she likes it or not.

Grrr i just wanna shove a Stonewall pamphlet down her throat!!

[GoldHeart]

What a self centred bitch.

I'm so greatful ive grown up in the world today where I can most of the time not be afraid of being openly gay.

She thinks that she's some new generation of person and deserves respect when Infact people marched for her rights to be who she is today and be able to live her life as she pleases and she has just **** on every person who has stuck up for her.

What if someone had these views on Martin Luther king or world war veterans In respect of them not having done anything to help their cause? She's An ungreatfull, attention seeking hypocrite.

I can see channel 5 producers right now planning on how to get her out.

She's trying to pull out the victim card and thank god this year the housemates have been able to have freedom of speech.

The good thing is there's a mixture of different people who don't agree with her :joker: .

I hope India is the first person to be evicted , she's caused the majority of the arguments in that house . Literally anytime somebody disagree's with her she runs away like a sour lemon head :notimpressed: .

I think she's upset that Ginuwine doesn't fancy her , and the whole argument is all about how he must date her as she's "a woman" even though he probably isn't attracted to her personality or physically she's absolutely insane :crazy: .

[MB.]

Yeah, I fail to see how there was anything that Courtney said for her to "respectfully disagree" with

Bitch probably thinks Stonewall is something you install on your ceilings

[pontyboi]

She literally is everything wrong with bb she's the classic attention seeker who were obviously all bored of watching.

[luvjustin]

She literally is everything wrong with bb she's the classic attention seeker who were obviously all bored of watching.

She’s the equivalent of an old uni mate coming on a night out with your new work friends. But you’re not the person you were, you don’t do jägers and scream along to Oasis anymore.. you’re more of a g&t and a Bake Off kind of guy.

She’s in the wrong series and she’s sticks out like a sore thumb

[GoldHeart]

She literally is everything wrong with bb she's the classic attention seeker who were obviously all bored of watching.

It's repetitive and each day now she does the same BS

1.She get's up and does her exhibitionist act in front of the mirror
2.Starts an argument with someone
3.Then plays the victim and runs away moaning and crying

:notimpressed:

[AnnieK]

She is very self centred. I think she thought she would have her gender surgery and everyone would fall at her feet. Luckily now Courtney is in there the LGBT community is now represented by an intelligent and reasoned person who has educated people more in the short time she has been in there than india would if she was in there for eternity

[Nicky91]

she's now officially gone to the bottom of my ranking, Get India Out

what a disrespectful person she is, poor Courtney has done nothing bad to her to deserve that treatment :(

[armand.kay]

I love her but its probably why she's so thirsty for the respect/acceptance of cis straight people because she's decided to turn her back on a community that accepts her regardless.

[drantb]

There’s a lot of animosity to each other from all sides of the LGBTQ community.

[Livia]

What a self centred bitch.

I'm so greatful ive grown up in the world today where I can most of the time not be afraid of being openly gay.

She thinks that she's some new generation of person and deserves respect when Infact people marched for her rights to be who she is today and be able to live her life as she pleases and she has just **** on every person who has stuck up for her.

What if someone had these views on Martin Luther king or world war veterans In respect of them not having done anything to help their cause? She's An ungreatfull, attention seeking hypocrite.

I can see channel 5 producers right now planning on how to get her out.

She's trying to pull out the victim card and thank god this year the housemates have been able to have freedom of speech.

I completely agree. And how ironic that she's stated her contempt for those who fought for the rights she's enjoying now, on a show acknowledging those who fought for women's right.

I think she's quite dangerous, actually. She doesn't represent trans people at all in my opinion and I really don't think the majority of the trans community will relish being to be represented by her on TV.

[Underscore]

Hit the nail on the head.

I'm a part of the Gay community. I'm 16, so admittedly I've grown up for the best part in a country and part of the world that is at least accommodating to LGBT people. I respect people who fought for my rights in things like the Stonewall Riots so I could be the person I am today. India ****s all over this and she should be ashamed.

[waterhog]

What a self centred bitch.

I'm so greatful ive grown up in the world today where I can most of the time not be afraid of being openly gay.

She thinks that she's some new generation of person and deserves respect when Infact people marched for her rights to be who she is today and be able to live her life as she pleases and she has just **** on every person who has stuck up for her.

What if someone had these views on Martin Luther king or world war veterans In respect of them not having done anything to help their cause? She's An ungreatfull, attention seeking hypocrite.

I can see channel 5 producers right now planning on how to get her out.

She's trying to pull out the victim card and thank god this year the housemates have been able to have freedom of speech.

shes getting us talking - ch5 like this :dance:

[Oliver_W]

For argument sake, how is her being unaware of past LGBTQWERTY struggles any different to the female housemates not knowing when they were given the vote or not knowing who the rooms in the House were named after?

[Vicky.]

Great post. Courtney/Shane is going to eat India alive in there, with no effort.

I do hope there is a convo in there about splitting off the T from LGB. I genuinely do not see why they are lumped together, 3 are about sexuality...the other is not and trans ideology actually says sexuality in itself is transphobic as we are not meant to mention sex, or think it matters.

[lewis111]

It's a shame that she is the representation for the trans community when arguments and debates on trans issues are so on topic right now
She's been open about not supporting or being part of the LGBT movement and has conserative type views on trans rights

GET TALULUAH EVE IN THERE NOW

[lewis111]

Or Munroe Bergdof to educate them on trans AND black rights

[Vicky.]

I don't see why India has to be representative for trans people. India is just themselves. It annoys me a bit actually when people say 'oh X is in there representing gay people' or whatever, as they really aren't they are themselves and happen to be gay :shrug: Its not like any group has one hive mind or something.

[luvjustin]

I don't see why India has to be representative for trans people. India is just themselves. It annoys me a bit actually when people say 'oh X is in there representing gay people' or whatever, as they really aren't they are themselves and happen to be gay :shrug: Its not like any group has one hive mind or something.

Nobody is saying she has to represent all trans or LGBT people. We actually want to distance ourselves from her right now to be honest.

But what she most certainly should be doing is respecting what has come before her and acknowledging that it was the LGBT community who fought for (and continue to fight for) her right to live her life the way she is now.

[Vicky.]

Nobody is saying she has to represent all trans or LGBT people. We actually want to distance ourselves from her right now to be honest.

But what she most certainly should be doing is respecting what has come before her and acknowledging that it was the LGBT community who fought for (and continue to fight for) her right to live her life the way she is now.

Oh yeah that I definitely agree with. India seemed extremely dismissive of the sense Courtney was talking.

[lewis111]

I don't see why India has to be representative for trans people. India is just themselves. It annoys me a bit actually when people say 'oh X is in there representing gay people' or whatever, as they really aren't they are themselves and happen to be gay :shrug: Its not like any group has one hive mind or something.

I just meant that this show gets watched by over a million people (for now) and her entire time in the house so far has been about being trans, so people might get a negative representation for trans people because of the way she's dealing with the issue and showing trans people to be - and not everyone will know a trans person so this might be all they see of them

Like how a lot of people hate vegans because there's some pushy OTT vegans on social media, even if they don't represent every vegan there is

[Tom4784]

The march towards progress for both the trans and the gays have always been linked, both demographics have fought for each other so it is quite disgraceful for India to downplay that.

[bots]

My opinion is that India is just a disrespectful, self obsessed person full stop. She seems to be disrespectful of nearly everything and everyone she sets her focus on. What i mean to say is its not one thing specifically that marks her down in my eyes and she is not representative of anything but herself. Her statements could do her cause a disservice because she doesn't appear to be a balanced individual having gone through all that she has, and to me that would have been the whole purpose of doing it. For her to be happy and contented with herself

[rusticgal]

Her statements could do her cause a disservice because she doesn't appear to be a balanced individual having gone through all that she has, and to me that would have been the whole purpose of doing it. For her to be happy and contented with herself

That's what I don't get...she obviously has what she wanted...I thought she looked and acted quite demure in her interview with Emma before entering the house.. Why can't she just settle into her own skin now and enjoy being a woman...:shrug:

[Jamie89]

My opinion is that India is just a disrespectful, self obsessed person full stop. She seems to be disrespectful of nearly everything and everyone she sets her focus on. What i mean to say is its not one thing specifically that marks her down in my eyes and she is not representative of anything but herself. Her statements could do her cause a disservice because she doesn't appear to be a balanced individual having gone through all that she has, and to me that would have been the whole purpose of doing it. For her to be happy and contented with herself

Pretty much this for me too.

For argument sake, how is her being unaware of past LGBTQWERTY struggles any different to the female housemates not knowing when they were given the vote or not knowing who the rooms in the House were named after?

Good point actually. Of course India should be aware and respectful of those things, but I wouldn't say it's any worse than somebody else in that example ^ Ann for example is very critical and dismissive of feminism, I'd say that's a very similar thing to what India is being criticised for here.

[pontyboi]

For argument sake, how is her being unaware of past LGBTQWERTY struggles any different to the female housemates not knowing when they were given the vote or not knowing who the rooms in the House were named after?

Let's be real here all your posts are for "arguments sake" Shane seemed to turn her opinion around tonight on this topic impaticular which the thread is about and In response to your reply not everyone knows the names of the actual people involved in the women's rights movement seeing it was a century ago and not one of the housemates was alive then but do now and respect it.

India being born in the time where she was a young adult and fighting to be who she was inside would have seen the stonewall protests and what the community went through to gain her rights to then come back and say she doesn't care or doesn't feel the need to acknowledge them basically is disrespectful and selfish.

[pontyboi]

I don't see why India has to be representative for trans people. India is just themselves. It annoys me a bit actually when people say 'oh X is in there representing gay people' or whatever, as they really aren't they are themselves and happen to be gay :shrug: Its not like any group has one hive mind or something.

That's cool but I do think they deserve respect for the rights they gave her back in the day by putting themselves in danger of a very enraged world towards anything different.

[Oliver_W]

India being born in the time where she was a young adult and fighting to be who she was inside would have seen the stonewall protests and what the community went through to gain her rights to then come back and say she doesn't care or doesn't feel the need to acknowledge them basically is disrespectful and selfish.
Who knows what she was doing during all that stuff, it might have passed her by. She might not even have admitted that she was trans to herself yet, so to her it would just be something that's happening to other people. Plus, she's just so self-absorbed she'd probably be happy to reap the benefits without caring why they're there.

[pontyboi]

Who knows what she was doing during all that stuff, it might have passed her by. She might not even have admitted that she was trans to herself yet, so to her it would just be something that's happening to other people. Plus, she's just so self-absorbed she'd probably be happy to reap the benefits without caring why they're there.

She openly said she's allways known she was a woman and your last comment "she's self absorbed...happy to reap the benefits" hits the nail on the head.

There's no way she had no idea what was going on I was like 4 and I knew about it and I come from a tiny sheep shagging, coal mining town in South wales.

She's trying to do a Perez Hilton on us all I think just to get the viewers talking but it's not a good look and especially with the accusations and complete lack of respect for the people who gave her rights.

[poppsywoppsy]

Let's be real here all your posts are for "arguments sake" Shane seemed to turn her opinion around tonight on this topic impaticular which the thread is about and In response to your reply not everyone knows the names of the actual people involved in the women's rights movement seeing it was a century ago and not one of the housemates was alive then but do now and respect it.

India being born in the time where she was a young adult and fighting to be who she was inside would have seen the stonewall protests and what the community went through to gain her rights to then come back and say she doesn't care or doesn't feel the need to acknowledge them basically is disrespectful and selfish.

It is true what you have written but in this day and age it is easy to Google everything India needs to know.

If she is that into her rights, surely it would be interesting to understand how those rights became about.

You don't have to live where they are happening or when they are happening and as India is a newsreader, she has been in a position to find out.

I don't think India is interested enough in the past, only where it affects her and her future.

[pontyboi]

It is true what you have written but in this day and age it is easy to Google everything India needs to know.

If she is that into her rights, surely it would be interesting to understand how those rights became about.

You don't have to live where they are happening or when they are happening and as India is a newsreader, she has been in a position to find out.

I don't think India is interested enough in the past, only where it affects her and her future.

That's really depressing.

[Oliver_W]

To be fair I take no interest in LGBT campaigners of the past,but I'm grateful I can live the way I want, and I don't see it as disrespectful to not really look back on that stuff.

[pontyboi]

To be fair I take no interest in LGBT campaigners of the past,but I'm grateful I can live the way I want, and I don't see it as disrespectful to not really look back on that stuff.

The difference is you say you're grateful and India said she wasn't....I can't keep preaching anymore im giving myself a headache.

...Wheres my codeine?