Manipulation to evict India

[lewis111]

They hardly ever to head to heads - and if anyone else was up India would be safe
But NOW they've decided it's H2H as soon as it confirms India is out?

[Marsh.]

Why would they want the centre of the show out?

Funny how if they did the opposite they'd be accused of manipulation to keep India in.

[andybigbro]

I can’t see people voting to save Jonny

[Jake.]

Why would they want the centre of the show out?

Funny how if they did the opposite they'd be accused of manipulation to keep India in.

This lol

[lewis111]

Why would they want the centre of the show out?

Funny how if they did the opposite they'd be accused of manipulation to keep India in.

I don't think so because they normally pick the few with the most votes or more than 2 votes

The fact they changed it make it more likely it's manipulation - India is giving the show a bad name so the need her out

[Wizard.]

Why would they want the centre of the show out?

Funny how if they did the opposite they'd be accused of manipulation to keep India in.

Because they want the drama to change so other people get the spotlight and they know how hated India is.

[Owen19]

I really don’t think Jonny is that popular. If India continues to cause arguments over the next few days while he remains in the background she’ll stay.

[Epic.]

It's Farrah all over again

[bots]

how can it be manipulation when she has a 50% chance of staying, it doesnt get fairer than that

[Pete.]

The problem is there’s no set rule

[Withano]

The problem is there’s no set rule

This. It genuinely pains me.

[montblanc]

how can it be manipulation when she has a 50% chance of staying, it doesnt get fairer than that

head-to-heads essentially turn into VTE meaning that people will save one to get the other out :worry: India's WAY more hated than Jonny atm

[bots]

head-to-heads essentially turn into VTE meaning that people will save one to get the other out :worry: India's WAY more hated than Jonny atm

in which case she deserves to be gone

[lewis111]

Big Brother have failed to comment on wether the 2 with the most noms will be up every week - saying "anything can happen"
I think this furthers my point

[Vicky.]

Why would they want the centre of the show out?

Funny how if they did the opposite they'd be accused of manipulation to keep India in.

Cash I guess, Most decisions on the show will be what they think is most profitable.

Its silly to deny they manipulate things to their advantage when they seem to sway between 2 or more with most up, anyone with 2 or more up, anyone with one nomination is up. Whole house up for some nosense reason. If all else fails, fake eviction.

I guess if they stick with the 2 or more with most votes is up that will be god. Maybe they have actually decided to interfere with the results less. I hope they do stick to it, but I reckon it will go back to randomness soon enough.

[Vicky.]

Big Brother have failed to comment on wether the 2 with the most noms will be up every week - saying "anything can happen"
I think this furthers my point

Oh. Well then...

[Cherie]

They hardly ever to head to heads - and if anyone else was up India would be safe
But NOW they've decided it's H2H as soon as it confirms India is out?

The opposite I think it confirms her safety

Unless they change it to vte

[Vicky.]

I don't think so because they normally pick the few with the most votes or more than 2 votes

The fact they changed it make it more likely it's manipulation - India is giving the show a bad name so the need her out

This is definitely not the reason. Near everyone is talking about the show due to India. People I know who have not watched in YEARS are watching because of her. She is not making BB look bad, she is making herself (and arguably transpeople...as it seems some think a minority housemate represents the entire community) look bad.

[lewis111]

I do agree that the money side plays a big part in it
If they chucked Ann in aswell her fans will vote to save her, a couple India haters maybe but that's it
Johnny would get few votes and India fans wouldn't try as hard to save her

When it's H2H both sides feel like they're in with a better chance and will vote more

[thisisdanny]

I think it's because Ann had the 3rd highest and they didn't want to risk her going.

Definitely decided last minute otherwise Emma would have announced the results rather than saying Big Brother would announce them shortly, then announcing them more or less straight away

[Ant.]

I don't think so because they normally pick the few with the most votes or more than 2 votes

The fact they changed it make it more likely it's manipulation - India is giving the show a bad name so the need her out

I don't think Big Brother even has a name anymore, let alone a bad one.

Helen Wood was controversial for essentially 10 weeks and got a lot more people riled up than India has and despite, the Ofcom complaints, BB did nothing (they could've easily snatched the pass to the final if they so wanted to). Same with Bear, they didn't try and rig it to get him out when everyone was fuming about his attitude

I highly doubt people talking about how controversial India is is making the producers quake at the concept of Big Brother getting a bad rep

[Vicky.]

I think it's because Ann had the 3rd highest and they didn't want to risk her going.

Definitely decided last minute otherwise Emma would have announced the results rather than saying Big Brother would announce them shortly, then announcing them more or less straight away

Maybe it is this..there was some definite manipulation going on behind the scenes as Emma was keeping count of the noms and if it was a predecided decision (ie. two or more with most votes, not the actual people up) then Emma could have said it. That we had to wait for BB to 'confirm'...and that it took so long for this confirmation.. kind of says to me that there were frantic talks based on who had votes.

[Marsh.]

Because they want the drama to change so other people get the spotlight and they know how hated India is.

So, basically, the show is damned if they do and damned if they don't.

No matter WHAT they do it's seen as manipulation.

[Cherie]

Maybe it is this..there was some definite manipulation going on behind the scenes as Emma was keeping count of the noms and if it was a predecided decision (ie. two or more with most votes, not the actual people up) then Emma could have said it. That we had to wait for BB to 'confirm'...and that it took so long for this confirmation.. kind of says to me that there were frantic talks based on who had votes.

They must have been expecting Ann to pick up a few though, I am really surprised she isn't in the mix

[rionablue]

They hardly ever to head to heads - and if anyone else was up India would be safe
But NOW they've decided it's H2H as soon as it confirms India is out?

I want her out no matter how its done

[GiRTh]

Its a bit odd that on this nomination BB decided to make it a two but anything to get India out. I've had enough of her one issue and face like a smacked arse

[thisisdanny]

They must have been expecting Ann to pick up a few though, I am really surprised she isn't in the mix

They were probably thinking Ann and India would easily receive the most, then to avoid that head-to-head we'll just put everyone who received a nom. Don't think they were expecting Jonny to get so many

[Vicky.]

So, basically, the show is damned if they do and damned if they don't.

No matter WHAT they do it's seen as manipulation.

If they continue down the '2 or more with the most noms are up' route then no, I would be saying they are finally consistent again. The reply to Lewis though suggests this is not going to be the case, so yes, its manipulation.

[lewis111]

It was Big Blagger who asked btw if you wanted to check or anything

[lewis111]

The more I think about the more likely it seems it was done in order to garner more votes
But at the same time they were still willing to twist it knowing it would massively increase India's chances of leaving

[hijaxers]

They hardly ever to head to heads - and if anyone else was up India would be safe
But NOW they've decided it's H2H as soon as it confirms India is out?

It was India that got all those votes and she would probably have had more if the others with those feeble votes had voted how they really felt .

India has caused her own downfall and if anyone's been manipulating its been India.

[Headie]

The problem is there’s no set rule

:clap1:

When Emma said "Big Brother will be with you with the result shortly" I knew they were deciding on whether to make it head-to-head or whether to have Andrew & Ann up as well.

I think they know they can make a lot of money out of people voting India out so made it a head to head. Had Ann & Andrew been up, Andrew would've snatched alot of Jonny's votes and he would've gone over India. Producers were basically deciding whether they'd rather make a profit out of India's eviction or have her stay in but make less money.

[GoldHeart]

I didn't think it would go like this either. But if it's a "VOTE TO SAVE" then anything can happen :bored: .

If it was VOTE TO EVICT then surely without question India would go , but she might have more fans than Johnny so we need to save Johnny !!! .

[Vicky.]

I didn't think it would go like this either. But if it's a "VOTE TO SAVE" then anything can happen :bored: .

If it was VOTE TO EVICT then surely without question India would go , but she might have more fans than Johnny so we need to save Johnny !!! .

It makes literally no difference whether its vote to save or vote to evict when there are only two people up :laugh:

[point17]

I think that cbb would love to kick a love island star out first as well. Many were probably manipulated into nomi ating jonny too

[Headie]

I think that cbb would love to kick a love island star out first as well. Many were probably manipulated into nomi ating jonny too

If that's the case then they would've had Andrew and Ann up to increase the chance of him getting less votes.

[GoldHeart]

It makes literally no difference whether its vote to save or vote to evict when there are only two people up :laugh:

hmmm i'm not sure about that :think: .
VOTE TO SAVE can be a nuisance as horrible people usually get saved as they still have a strong fan base . But VOTE TO EVICT is usually hm's who are disliked alot so they go .

I'll agree it's always up and down though when it comes to it . I just have a terrible feeling India will be saved :facepalm: .

[thisisdanny]

It makes literally no difference whether its vote to save or vote to evict when there are only two people up :laugh:

I think people are more likely to pick up the phone to evict someone they hate rather than to save someone they're unsure of for the sake of getting rid of someone they don't like. Fair enough someone popular but Jonny isn't exactly popular

[Jase.]

I just have a terrible feeling India will be saved :facepalm: .

Here's hoping!

[Nm33]

If so n many ppl are complaining the h2h is just 4 profit then don't vote either way. India fear of drag is ridiculous due to the fact that pre-op would have to be in woman's clothes while having male genitals.

[JerseyWins]

I always thought it was a certain % of the votes get nominated (thought this was set). So if the votes are closer and spread out there were more noms and if the votes were mainly on the same people there would only be a few (or 2) noms.

[Marsh.]

I always thought it was a certain % of the votes get nominated (thought this was set). So if the votes are closer and spread out there were more noms and if the votes were mainly on the same people there would only be a few (or 2) noms.

Pahaha. No.

[Brillopad]

They hardly ever to head to heads - and if anyone else was up India would be safe
But NOW they've decided it's H2H as soon as it confirms India is out?

Get over it no one likes her. I for one do not wish to see her sulky ugly face any more.

[bots]

Nobody is forcing the public to vote one way or another, so it just can't be described as manipulation. BB didn't force the housemates to nominate India. The only manipulation BB can do is to mess with the nominations process to stop someone being evicted, its the public that vote