India's old male life

[Jarvio]

Any links of videos of India in her former life as Jonathan? Genuinely interested to observe the transformation etc

[Rob!]

Was she a newsreader before her transition?

[Osjama]

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Only thing I could find on YouTube rofl p sure she’s only rly been in the public eye after her transition

[Marsh.]

Why is she more feminine there than she is now?

[Jarvio]

LjPfpNpdmGg
Only thing I could find on YouTube rofl p sure she’s only rly been in the public eye after her transition

Yeah that's the only one I could find too

[Parmy]

Was she a gay man?

[Oliver_W]

Was she a gay man?

She likes men now, so most likely. The HRT transpeople take can change their sex preferences, but it's rare enough to just assume she was (functionally) a gay guy.

[Nicky91]

that's the past, India is now a woman, a pretty woman as well

[Kazanne]

I found these if it helps http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/kazanne/CopyEditor-856317_zpsaivw7rdz.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kazanne/media/CopyEditor-856317_zpsaivw7rdz.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/kazanne/2E2B240E00000578-3306907-image-m-4_1446813362889_zpsrd4j7fek.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kazanne/media/2E2B240E00000578-3306907-image-m-4_1446813362889_zpsrd4j7fek.jpg.html)

[chuff me dizzy]

I found these if it helps http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/kazanne/CopyEditor-856317_zpsaivw7rdz.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kazanne/media/CopyEditor-856317_zpsaivw7rdz.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/kazanne/2E2B240E00000578-3306907-image-m-4_1446813362889_zpsrd4j7fek.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kazanne/media/2E2B240E00000578-3306907-image-m-4_1446813362889_zpsrd4j7fek.jpg.html)

Its like they've just stuck a wig on him !! Her face is still not feminine

[Kazanne]

Looks better with dark hair I think http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/kazanne/b82cfee1dfd48a76bdd67878160e45b0_zpszvlrypkr.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kazanne/media/b82cfee1dfd48a76bdd67878160e45b0_zpszvlrypkr.jpg.h tml)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/kazanne/India-717135_zpsb7o9cb2g.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kazanne/media/India-717135_zpsb7o9cb2g.jpg.html)

[GreenIce]

Its like they've just stuck a wig on him !! Her face is still not feminine

This.

[Gusto Brunt]

One thing I don't understand is that India has children.

If she always knew deep inside she was a woman, why did she have sex with a woman and become a father??

[Oliver_W]

One thing I don't understand is that India has children.

If she always knew deep inside she was a woman, why did she have sex with a woman and become a father??

Denial is more than a lake in Egypt.

[Gusto Brunt]

Denial is more than a lake in Egypt.

:shrug: I need that explained.:hehe:

[Osjama]

One thing I don't understand is that India has children.

If she always knew deep inside she was a woman, why did she have sex with a woman and become a father??

Gender dysphoria has little connection with sexual preference.

Also he prob found it difficult to come out and be himself. Caitlin Jenner lived with feeling like a women in a mans body for 65 years, has children with 2different women. ****s hard

[Gusto Brunt]

Gender dysphoria has little connection with sexual preference.

Also he prob found it difficult to come out and be himself. Caitlin Jenner lived with feeling like a women in a mans body for 65 years, has children with 2different women. ****s hard

I know. But India has always said she was attracted to men. Not women. So why seek out a woman and have sex with her and become a father.

I'm a straight man, but I wouldn't marry a guy.

[Oliver_W]

:shrug: I need that explained.:hehe:

haha it's a pretty old joke tbh, "Denial" sounds like "The Nile" ... basically it's just saying she may have dated women and stuff while she couldn't acknowledge her transness in the past.

[chuff me dizzy]

One thing I don't understand is that India has children.

If she always knew deep inside she was a woman, why did she have sex with a woman and become a father??

:clap1: 50 YEARS it took for her to decide 50 YEARS !!

[pontyboi]

One thing I don't understand is that India has children.

If she always knew deep inside she was a woman, why did she have sex with a woman and become a father??

Wow you really are uneducated on the subject.

Ive slept with women in the past but am gay I also have gay friends who have kids from early relationships with women.

[Amy Jade]

:clap1: 50 YEARS it took for her to decide 50 YEARS !!

India has already explained she knew years ago but tried to conform to 'the norm' and ignored her feelings.

Some people don't come out as gay until later in life for pretty much the same reason.

[Marsh.]

One thing I don't understand is that India has children.

If she always knew deep inside she was a woman, why did she have sex with a woman and become a father??
I know. It's not as though people who are LGTBQ have anything to fear at all. 50 years ago homosexuality wasn't even illegal.

[Marsh.]

Denial is more than a lake in Egypt.
*river

[Marsh.]

I'm a straight man, but I wouldn't marry a guy.

Well luckily for you, society would never make you feel as though you needed to hide your heterosexuality.

Honestly, do you think they do it for a laugh?

[Marsh.]

:clap1: 50 YEARS it took for her to decide 50 YEARS !!
So?

People like you cause such insecurity in people like her.

[Oliver_W]

*river
I know, I was gonna put "Lake in Ireland" but I thought that'd be too obscure!

I know. It's not as though people who are LGTBQ have anything to fear at all. 50 years ago homosexuality wasn't even illegal.
LGBT*

[Jack_]

:clap1: 50 YEARS it took for her to decide 50 YEARS !!

The irony is it's attitudes like yours that has contributed to that length of time.

[Osjama]

The irony is it's attitudes like yours that has contributed to that length of time.

:clap1:

[Marsh.]

I know, I was gonna put "Lake in Ireland" but I thought that'd be too obscure!


LGBT*
No I was right the first time.

[Oliver_W]

No I was right the first time.

Queer just means gay, and there's already G. If we start being silly and including things like Q, you might end up with something like LGBTTQQFAGPBDSM (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414398/wesleyan-now-offering-lgbttqqfagpbdsm-housing-not-typo-katherine-timpf). I find the fact it has "fag" in it slightly amusing. Maybe some of the identities should have been in a different order...

[Garfie]

The irony is it's attitudes like yours that has contributed to that length of time.

:clap1:

It's easy to stand in judgement when outside a situation.

[Jack_]

Queer just means gay, and there's already G. If we start being silly and including things like Q, you might end up with something like LGBTTQQFAGPBDSM (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414398/wesleyan-now-offering-lgbttqqfagpbdsm-housing-not-typo-katherine-timpf). I find the fact it has "fag" in it slightly amusing. Maybe some of the identities should have been in a different order...

Queer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer) does not just mean gay. It even has its own strand of social theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_theory)

[Marsh.]

Queer just means gay, and there's already G. If we start being silly and including things like Q, you might end up with something like LGBTTQQFAGPBDSM (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414398/wesleyan-now-offering-lgbttqqfagpbdsm-housing-not-typo-katherine-timpf). I find the fact it has "fag" in it slightly amusing. Maybe some of the identities should have been in a different order...
I don't give two frigs what you think.

[Oliver_W]

Queer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer) does not just mean gay. It even has its own strand of social theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_theory)
So it's an umbrella term - such a shame we don't have a four letter acronym to cover people who are not heterosexual and/or not cisgender ;)

I don't give two frigs what you think.
Oh noes.

[Christmas Lights]

Its like they've just stuck a wig on him !! Her face is still not feminine

It's weird looking at old pictures, and yeah her face is still the same :sleep:
Even Courtney is a better transformation as a drag queen.

I didn't know her as a man and I only know her as a woman because she's causing havoc in BB, I'd never heard of India Willoughby prior :bored: .

[riceflick]

I'm a straight man, but I wouldn't marry a guy.
Maybe there's a relationship between straight men not getting gay-married and the fact that there's there's absolutely zero societal pressure for straight men to hide their sexual orientation :shrug:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

oh that man lost 750k putting his money in some ISle of Man bank so he could be even more greedy

what a shame

never mind


:hehe:

[reece(:]

Any links of videos of India in her former life as Jonathan? Genuinely interested to observe the transformation etc
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/nintchdbpict000271796633.jpg?strip=all&w=960

[Oliver_W]

Why are people talking about her face? Facial feminisation surgery isn't often available on the NHS, and it's expensive. Author Juno Dawson was saying the total for hers would be £50k, and her face was more naturally effeminate than India's, so there'd be less work to do on it.

The most change we'd see in India would be softening of features, through her HRT, though it might not make much difference at her age.