I Went Vegetarian x - eleven months!

[Jessica.]

I decided on Monday that I'd try it for the rest of January and see how it goes, if it goes well I am going to make it a more long-term thing. I love animals and I don't want to eat them, I have two cats and if anything happened to them it would break my heart, so I just felt really guilty when I was eating other animals. :fist: Wish me well.

[Cal.]

It's surprisingly easy and the food is yummy. I'm an ex vegetarian but still often have meat free days just because you can eat gorgeous food without including meat into your diet. Good luck Jess you're going to love it and feel so much better about yourself too! I'm only eating meat atm to make things easier for my parents so they don't have to cook loads of different meals but once I'm living on my own come September I'll be going back veggie!

[Jessica.]

Thank you, I made a satay stirfry for dinner today with TVP and it was yummy, I was very happy with it. I already feel so happy to not be eating animals any more. I still need to shed a few kilos and I'm sure eating more wholefoods and being just more aware of my diet in general will be good for that too.

[Lostie!]

It was my cat that turned me vegetarian too :laugh:

[Cal.]

It was my dogs also :p

[Alf]

Just think of them succulent sausages, those greasy hambugers, those juicy lamb chops, a bacon banjo in the morning and that fine smelling joint of roast beef on a Sunday.

Mmmmmmm.......meat


You must be literally mad to give that up just because the leftie media guilt trips you.

Summer BBQ's will never be the same again.

[Jessica.]

I just find it hard to look at these innocent faces every day while other animals just like them are being treated like crap. :sad:

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[thesheriff443]

I just find it hard to look at these innocent faces every day while other animals just like them are being treated like crap. :sad:

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You giving up meat won't stop others eating animals and hurting them, does your cat care when it kills a bird in the garden!.

[Marsh.]

I love animals and I don't want to eat them, I have two cats and if anything happened to them it would break my heart

SCREECHING :joker::joker::joker:

I always imagine other animals on the food chain deciding this about the animals they eat.

It's bloody natural, don't be so soft. :fist:

[Marsh.]

I still need to shed a few kilos.

Ahh, now we're getting to the bottom of it. You want to lose weight but are pretending it's a selfless animal saving exercise, I see. :think:

[Jessica.]

Ahh, now we're getting to the bottom of it. You want to lose weight but are pretending it's a selfless animal saving exercise, I see. :think:

:joker: No, I've been losing weight for a while and I had a whole bar of lindt chocolate last night so if I stopped eating meat purely to lose weight that would be a bit of an oxymoron.

Humans aren't omnivores, really, we are able to grind our jaws and we have flat back teeth, the canines are not an excuse because they are feeble compared to the ones you'd see on real carnivores. Our canines are for apples and nuts and stuff like that.

In the end I just love animals and I don't want to eat them. Also I think the meat industry is one of the worst for the environment and more people need to open their eyes to that.

[Jessica.]

Does your cat care when it kills a bird in the garden!.

Neither of my cats have ever killed a bird, they are both rescues and we live in an area that's dangerous for cars. Cats have natural instincts to kill and eat birds and other small animals. We don't. When we see a little lamb skipping around we want to have a look and give it a cuddle, nobody starts salivating from the sight of it, but real carnivores wouldn't see a cute little animal at all, they would see an easy meal because it's weaker and smaller than the adults.

[Kazanne]

Just think of them succulent sausages, those greasy hambugers, those juicy lamb chops, a bacon banjo in the morning and that fine smelling joint of roast beef on a Sunday.

Mmmmmmm.......meat


You must be literally mad to give that up just because the leftie media guilt trips you.

Summer BBQ's will never be the same again.

And don't forget all that cholesterol furring up your arteries and the added bonus of it could cause a higher rate of cancer in meat eaters.:hehe:

[Kazanne]

You giving up meat won't stop others eating animals and hurting them, does your cat care when it kills a bird in the garden!.

Bloody hell sheriff I thought better of you when a cat kills a bird it's instinct,its not nice but they don't know any different,they don't know they are causing pain,as for humans killing for meat, some of those so called 'humans' enjoy inflicting pain on animals ,there is a world of difference.

[caprimint]

A great decision :clap1:

It's really easy to be vegetarian imo, there are so many options and alternatives

[caprimint]

You giving up meat won't stop others eating animals and hurting them, does your cat care when it kills a bird in the garden!.
This is a really poor argument against vegetarianism, I can't speak for anyone but for me personally it's about eating them (I find it disgusting), whether they still get killed/hurt is besides the point really

[Ashley.]

It was my cat that turned me vegetarian too :laugh:

That's one persuasive cat.

[Lostie!]

You giving up meat won't stop others eating animals and hurting them

Nobody ever said otherwise, doesn't mean that we all want to contribute to it ourselves.

does your cat care when it kills a bird in the garden!.

Cats also lick themselves clean and **** in litter trays, what's your point?

I don't know why the idea of vegetarianism bothers some people so much. Nobody's forcing it on everyone, the sky isn't falling.

[Ashley.]

I don't know why the idea of vegetarianism bothers some people so much. Nobody's forcing it on everyone, the sky isn't falling.

Because people enjoy believing that they know more than you about a subject you feel strongly about. It's a life choice, like religious conversion or choosing not to have children and it's not really up to anybody else to question it.

[Denver]

More chicken for me

[Smithy]

But yalls animals eating meat too

[Vicky.]

I sometimes wish I could go vegetarian. But I am so ****ing picky and the only veg I like are carrots and potatoes so I would basically be living on various kinds of potatoes. I don't like pasta..or quorn, or anything that veggies live on tbh :laugh:

[Alf]

http://puu.sh/yZoZK/018b7890d1.jpgYou could make a good stir-fry with that!

[Ashley.]

More chicken for me

You could make a good stir-fry with that!

...And then you get utterly pointless comments like this.

[Alf]

...And then you get utterly pointless comments like this.If it made just 1 person laugh, then it made it's point.

I ain't apologizing for trying to use humour.

[caprimint]

I sometimes wish I could go vegetarian. But I am so ****ing picky and the only veg I like are carrots and potatoes so I would basically be living on various kinds of potatoes. I don't like pasta..or quorn, or anything that veggies live on tbh :laugh:
You don't have to like vegetables to be a vegetarian btw (I hardly ever eat them). Do you like tofu/lentils/chickpeas/soya chunks?

[Denver]

...And then you get utterly pointless comments like this.

Why do you think you are better then everyone else?

[Kazanne]

If it made just 1 person laugh, then it made it's point.

I ain't apologizing for trying to use humour.

It depends what you find funny really,I thought your remark a bit thoughtless:shrug:

[caprimint]

Yeah vegetarians don't generally find those jokes funny just for future reference

[Denver]

I honestly dont see what is so offensive about saying more Chicken for me though

[Ashley.]

I honestly dont see what is so offensive about saying more Chicken for me though

It's not offensive, it just wasn't necessary and didn't make any sense.

[Denver]

It's not offensive, it just wasn't necessary and didn't make any sense.

It was a joke though someone said they topped eating meat and as i love meat i said more for me

[Alf]

It depends what you find funny really,I thought your remark a bit thoughtless:shrug:You're wrong! because there was a little bit of thought went into it.

[Vicky.]

You don't have to like vegetables to be a vegetarian btw (I hardly ever eat them). Do you like tofu/lentils/chickpeas/soya chunks?

Nope :laugh:

[caprimint]

Nope :laugh:
Oh :worry: Being vegetarian though I've discovered lots of new foods that I don't think I would've tried without being tbh

[Kazanne]

Nope :laugh:

I started by eating everything as usual just dropping the meat out,then I started trying the veggie stuff,some I liked some I didn't,I find the quorn mince great even the kids like that as a spag bol, they also like the 'quorn nuggets' it takes a bit of getting used to but I could never touch meat now ,although I do eat eggs and milk, my fave is Linda McCartneys burgers with mozerrello cheese.:wavey:

[Denver]

The only vegetarian thing i eat is Vegetable Moussaka at a restaurant

[Vicky.]

I can't eat cheese either as it gives me migraines :laugh:

[Jessica.]

What is with the weird attempts at jokes on this topic? :umm2: This isn't the Chat & Games subforum, I just thought it would be nice to share my experiences and maybe get some knowledge from people who have been at vegetarianism for a while.

I usually eat porridge, weetabix or toast for breakfast, so I didn't really have to change anything about that.

My other meals have had to change though, I always ate animals for lunch and dinner, as well as my snack in the afternoon though. We eat dinner very late in Portugal so it's necessary to eat something in the afternoon.

So usually for lunch I'd have bolognese or tuna salad or something and for a snack I'd have a cheese and ham toastie and for dinner I might've had chicken with beans and rice or something like that. It is a lot for me to change but I think I am doing okay. Last night I had a TVP satay stir-fry, it was really good, I wasn't sure about the texture at first but it wasn't bad either, in the end I really enjoyed the meal. :)

[Vicky.]

Are you going to be eating fish stacey?

[Vicky.]

See thats something else I dont bloody like D:

[Jessica.]

Fish are animals, I could never stop eating other animals and then still eat fish.

[Vicky.]

Fish are animals, I could never stop eating other animals and then still eat fish.

Well yeah, I don;t understand at all people who are vegetarian and still eat fish. But every vegetarian person I know does...

[Denver]

If you eat fish but not meat you are a Pescatarian

[Jessica.]

Fish are beautiful creatures. :love: They have hearts and brains and personalities just like any other animal.

[Jordan.]

Neither of my cats have ever killed a bird, they are both rescues and we live in an area that's dangerous for cars. Cats have natural instincts to kill and eat birds and other small animals. We don't. When we see a little lamb skipping around we want to have a look and give it a cuddle, nobody starts salivating from the sight of it, but real carnivores wouldn't see a cute little animal at all, they would see an easy meal because it's weaker and smaller than the adults.

We don't have an instinct to kill for food because we are aware there is far easier and obtainable ways of eating, if we wers stranded in the wilderness it'd be another story.

But anyway it's your choice so good luck with it x

[Lostie!]

Well yeah, I don;t understand at all people who are vegetarian and still eat fish. But every vegetarian person I know does...

Winds me up when people eat fish and refer to themselves as simply vegetarian rather than pescatarian or pesco-vegetarian.

People always ask me if I eat fish too, it's become widespread for people to assume that fish is part of a standard vegetarian diet.

[Jessica.]

Portuguese people don't understand Vegetarianism at all, everyone I told thought I couldn't eat cheese or have dairy etc.. and I am allergic to eggs anyway so I wouldn't miss out on them. So I am basically only supporting the dairy industry which I still don't feel great about but I am still learning and maybe one day I'll be able to move away from dairy too.

[lily.]

I was vegetarian for 6 years. It's quite easy and becomes a habit in no time. I did it for the same reason as you are saying Jessica. I eat meat now, but only really chicken and fish. I eat beef/steak in bolognese, but other than than don't eat red meat.

When I first did it, eating out was a nightmare because there was usually only one (bland) choice on the menus. That was a long time ago, and there are loads of good options now.

[Jessica.]

I was vegetarian for 6 years. It's quite easy and becomes a habit in no time. I did it for the same reason as you are saying Jessica. I eat meat now, but only really chicken and fish. I eat beef/steak in bolognese, but other than than don't eat red meat.

When I first did it, eating out was a nightmare because there was usually only one (bland) choice on the menus. That was a long time ago, and there are loads of good options now.

Yeah, I think it's a good time for people to start, definitely the easiest time to stop eating meat in history. :) May I ask why you stopped?

[Lostie!]

Portuguese people don't understand Vegetarianism at all, everyone I told thought I couldn't eat cheese or have dairy etc.. and I am allergic to eggs anyway so I wouldn't miss out on them. So I am basically only supporting the dairy industry which I still don't feel great about but I am still learning and maybe one day I'll be able to move away from dairy too.

I actually get that a fair bit too :joker:

Like you, I hope to move into veganism eventually. I have sweetened soya milk with my cereal sometimes and it's actually nice so cutting out dairy milk won't be difficult at least.

[lily.]

Yeah, I think it's a good time for people to start, definitely the easiest time to stop eating meat in history. :) May I ask why you stopped?

I had a hot dog. It seems weird, but I was in Blackpool on a short break, and wanted a hot dog. So I had a hot dog, and then I gradually started eating meat products again.

It may have been an age thing too. I was 14 when I started, 20 when I stopped, so it could possibly be classed as a "phase". I was quite the hippy/activist in my teens, and although I still hold a lot of the same opinions from that time, I suppose once I reached 20 life got in the way of being pro-active. I was working, married, and looking to start a family.... (And yes, I know I was really young but it was different times I suppose)..

[thesheriff443]

Neither of my cats have ever killed a bird, they are both rescues and we live in an area that's dangerous for cars. Cats have natural instincts to kill and eat birds and other small animals. We don't. When we see a little lamb skipping around we want to have a look and give it a cuddle, nobody starts salivating from the sight of it, but real carnivores wouldn't see a cute little animal at all, they would see an easy meal because it's weaker and smaller than the adults.

Cats will catch mice keep them alive, let them go only to catch them again over and over until they are dead, then they don't eat them,

What you choose to eat is up to you!, no animal should be killed needlessly, some humans eat meat.

[lily.]

We don't have an instinct to kill for food because we are aware there is far easier and obtainable ways of eating, if we wers stranded in the wilderness it'd be another story.

But anyway it's your choice so good luck with it x

This is an interesting point Jordan. I had a discussion with my son about how I would survive being stranded in the wilderness. He would have no problem killing in order to eat/survive, whereas I would be unable to do that. It's one thing to buy prepared meat, but another to physically kill a living creature in order to eat it.

I would even struggle with fishing. I'm basically the kind of person who can't kill insects/arachnids, and carefully eject them through the door or window when I find one in the house.

So I would be the pale faced one trying to survive on leaves and berries, and probably poisoning myself because I don't know which ones not to eat! lol

[RileyH]

I tried going veggie once but I couldn't make it last longer than 2 days

[caprimint]

Are you going to be eating fish stacey?
Nope or else I'd be pescatarian :bigsmile:

[caprimint]

But yeah it's true that a lot of people who class themselves as 'vegetarian' actually eat fish or even 'just eat meat occasionally' like you're obviously not vegetarian then :rolleyes:

And I get people asking if I eat dairy products too, some people have no idea the difference between vegetarian/vegan

[Lostie!]

But yeah it's true that a lot of people who class themselves as 'vegetarian' actually eat fish or even 'just eat meat occasionally' like you're obviously not vegetarian then :rolleyes:

And I get people asking if I eat dairy products too, some people have no idea the difference between vegetarian/vegan

Today I discovered some of them like to call themselves "flexitarian" :unsure:

[Jessica.]

Today I discovered some of them like to call themselves "flexitarian" :unsure:

:umm2: That is so weird, they are just a person who doesn't eat meat much, that doesn't have a name.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Im a meat eating veggie and i am finding this really good

[Kazanne]

The reason I went veggie is because of the WAY the animals are killed,some humans cannot be trusted to follow rules and do it humanely and treat the animals with kindness and care until they have to be slaughtered,only the other day I came across a video on FB of a tiny calf being hit round the head with a sledgehammer,it struggled after the second blow to get on it's legs but it couldn't, it looked at the guy I will never forget that face, the guy then proceeded to hit it again twice round the head ,then declared it was still alive so cut it's hoof off,bastard !!! I know that is not a nice story but the evidence was there,i have also seen them kicked prodded tormented and distressed before the kill,some people actually get their jollies off on that,so I vowed never to be connected to anything that brought such savagery to animals again, I have nothing against people eating meat or fish,I just could not myself simply because of the cruelty involved.

[Withano]

I couldn't do it. Cos kebabs. And roast lamb. And McDonald's. And fried chicken. Most things really.

[Jamie89]

Humans aren't omnivores, really, we are able to grind our jaws and we have flat back teeth, the canines are not an excuse because they are feeble compared to the ones you'd see on real carnivores. Our canines are for apples and nuts and stuff like that.

Neither of my cats have ever killed a bird, they are both rescues and we live in an area that's dangerous for cars. Cats have natural instincts to kill and eat birds and other small animals. We don't. When we see a little lamb skipping around we want to have a look and give it a cuddle, nobody starts salivating from the sight of it, but real carnivores wouldn't see a cute little animal at all, they would see an easy meal because it's weaker and smaller than the adults.

These are honestly the best arguments I've heard for becoming vegetarian, you always assume that our instinct is to eat meat and vegetarians are distinct from that, but I wonder if it should really be thought of the other way around, and if we don't need to eat animals... then why do we? :think: You could say taste but then why do we eat certain animals and find it morally wrong to eat other animals that may also taste good. I don't know if I'd become vegetarian but it has got me thinking. Good luck with it Jessica!

[Jessica.]

These are honestly the best arguments I've heard for becoming vegetarian, you always assume that our instinct is to eat meat and vegetarians are distinct from that, but I wonder if it should really be thought of the other way around, and if we don't need to eat animals... then why do we? :think: You could say taste but then why do we eat certain animals and find it morally wrong to eat other animals that may also taste good. I don't know if I'd become vegetarian but it has got me thinking. Good luck with it Jessica!

Yeah, I think a lot of people would change how they eat if they had more knowledge about how unnecessary meat is and about our anatomy in relation to comparison with herbivores, carnivores and omnivores in the animal kingdom.

[Marsh.]

Our canines are only feeble because of the way we've evolved from the caveman.

[Jessica.]

Our canines are only feeble because of the way we've evolved from the caveman.

The species we evolved from had even more herbivorous jaws and teeth than we did, their molars were bigger and flatter than ours,again their canines were bigger because they ate way more raw fruit and vegetables and nuts and seeds than we did.

[y.winter]

Good luck Jessica :love: I'm vegan for around 4 years now and it's been great so far, so just ignore the cynics who still think that "lol here's a picture of a steak" is a good argument.
Healthy, inexpensive - everything that people would like to think it isn't...

[Withano]

Human ancestors developed a taste for meat millions of years ago, and humans wouldnt have existed if they didnt do so. Its the reason the human brain is so advanced today.

Our mouths not looking like a carnivore doesn't mean that we're not

[Morgan.]

I do think that meat is an essential part of our life, we have been adapted to become omnivores which means we can eat plants and meat and our moths and stomachs have been adapted to suit meat. I agree with Withano. I understand the ethical side of it though - and I did try once but literally went home and choked bacon. Not eating it made me want it more.

[Livia]

I went vegetarian when I was about fourteen. I farted allllllllll the time. Eventually my brother said if I didn't go back to eating meat he was going to force-feed me a Big Mac.

[Livia]

Im a meat eating veggie and i am finding this really good

You're a post-modern vegetarian, Trumpet. You eat meat, but you eat it ironically.

[Marsh.]

The species we evolved from had even more herbivorous jaws and teeth than we did, their molars were bigger and flatter than ours,again their canines were bigger because they ate way more raw fruit and vegetables and nuts and seeds than we did.
Well meat is delicious so there! :oh:

[Nicky91]

welcome to the veggie club Jess :love:

[Livia]

You can always tell a vegetarian, Jess. They're the ones who can't get the lid off the pickle jar.

[y.winter]

Doesn't suit you this kind of jokes Livia...

[Jessica.]

You can always tell a vegetarian, Jess. They're the ones who can't get the lid off the pickle jar.

I don't get it. :umm2:

[Marsh.]

I don't get it. :umm2:
It means they have no strength. :hehe:

[armand.kay]

How is it going? I never actually made a concerted effort to go vegan I kind of went a week with no meat or dairy and was woah that was easy. I wasn't really sure how long I would keep it up for but after watching a few vegan youtube channels and some documentaries it became more of an ethical decision and i've kept it up for over a year now.

[armand.kay]

Today I discovered some of them like to call themselves "flexitarian" :unsure:

:umm2: That is so weird, they are just a person who doesn't eat meat much, that doesn't have a name.

Some of my friends call themselves 'flexitarians' or 'reducetarians' and they just don't buy meat or dairy however if they were to go out for a meal or order food they wont restrict themselves. It's not much but in a world were its the norm to gorge on meat everyday for 3 meals a day, its still something and they're still helping reduce the suffering of animals and the damage to the environment that the meet and dairy industry cause.

[Marsh.]

How are they reducing the suffering of animals?

The same animals are being killed.

[armand.kay]

How are they reducing the suffering of animals?

The same animals are being killed.

Theres not as much demand for meet and dairy because they're not having it as much as usual, if everybody in Britain decided to only eat meet once a day the meet industry would be shook. Its all about little changes that make a big difference.

[lewis111]

You can't really think animals Being bred purely to be looked up them slaughtered is as natural as a lion or whatever killing an animal in the wild
There's nothing natural about how humans get their meat

I doubt I go be vegetarian or vegan but I'm still a massive hypocrite and defend the cause

[Jessica.]

How is it going? I never actually made a concerted effort to go vegan I kind of went a week with no meat or dairy and was woah that was easy. I wasn't really sure how long I would keep it up for but after watching a few vegan youtube channels and some documentaries it became more of an ethical decision and i've kept it up for over a year now.

It's good so far while I've been at home but tomorrow is going to be Day 6 and I'm going for lunch at my boyfriends parents house. I'm a bit worried because they don't really understand vegetarianism and I hope they don't lie to me by saying something doesn't have animal stuff I'm it when it does. :sad:

I have been watching lots of documentaries too, it really reinforces the true reason I want to do this and I actually haven't felt any urge to eat animals at all this week, so it should be easy if I can keep that up.

[Jessica.]

You can't really think animals Being bred purely to be looked up them slaughtered is as natural as a lion or whatever killing an animal in the wild
There's nothing natural about how humans get their meat

I doubt I go be vegetarian or vegan but I'm still a massive hypocrite and defend the cause

Having the knowledge is still good, even if you haven't changed your lifestyle!

[arista]

Well Done Jess.

[Kazanne]

How are they reducing the suffering of animals?

The same animals are being killed.

If we all thought like that Marsh,nothing would change, from little acorns mighty oaks grow,every little helps.

[Jessica.]

Well Done Jess.

Thank you, young man.

[Livia]

Doesn't suit you this kind of jokes Livia...


I was only mildly teasing her. I'm sure she didn't take offence. Can't believe I'm explaining myself over such a stupid joke.

[Marsh.]

Theres not as much demand for meet and dairy because they're not having it as much as usual, if everybody in Britain decided to only eat meet once a day the meet industry would be shook. Its all about little changes that make a big difference.
Obviously if everyone in Britain did that it would be affected.

We're not talking about that though. What actual difference does some people being vegetarian make to the meat industry? Not a jot.

[Marsh.]

If we all thought like that Marsh,nothing would change, from little acorns mighty oaks grow,every little helps.
It doesn't though.

Humans enjoy meat and will continue to as they are naturally entitled to.

The way in which we get that meat may no longer be "natural" but there's all kinds of things that are no longer done naturally as in the past and are fundamentally a part of being human.

Everyone has the choice what they want to do what they don't want to do, and what they like to eat and what they don't like to eat. But let's not exaggerate.

[Jessica.]

It doesn't though.

Humans enjoy meat and will continue to as they are naturally entitled to.

The way in which we get that meat may no longer be "natural" but there's all kinds of things that are no longer done naturally as in the past and are fundamentally a part of being human.

Everyone has the choice what they want to do what they don't want to do, and what they like to eat and what they don't like to eat. But let's not exaggerate.

One person making a change actually does make a difference and maybe that one person can inspire others to make a change too. I was inspired by someone much younger than me who it's way less easy for and here I am not eating animals just like her. Think about how many kilos of meat people eat in a month or year or decade? That's a lot of animals. And imagine one person stopped and then another who heard from them stopped etc.. That's less demand for the supply.

[Kazanne]

It doesn't though.

Humans enjoy meat and will continue to as they are naturally entitled to.

The way in which we get that meat may no longer be "natural" but there's all kinds of things that are no longer done naturally as in the past and are fundamentally a part of being human.

Everyone has the choice what they want to do what they don't want to do, and what they like to eat and what they don't like to eat. But let's not exaggerate.

I don't think we are naturally entitalled to anything,we just take what we want ,not many really care about the consequences ,I mean look at the plastic in the ocean now killing the sealife.all that because we are entitalled? I dont think so.

[y.winter]

If people would've given up on many ideas just because "one person can't make a change", we wouldn't have progressed as a society like we do...

Human rights, general elections, revolutions, recycling - it comes in any aspect of life you could thing of. It doesn't do any wrong supporting good causes, so why look for excuses...

[AnnieK]

I was vegetarian as a kid....because my mum was. She actually got really poorly (she was badly anaemic due to another medical issue) and so after 10 years started eating meat again. I only really eat chicken and fish...no red meat but because I don't like the taste. I would love to give it a go again but working full time and having a 7 year old that has a million evening activities means that I cant be arsed cooking different things at dinner time and I really do believe kids need to eat meat to get a full balanced diet

[y.winter]

For the record, plant based diet is a balanced diet (from birth) and has been confirmed as such by the World Health Organization.
It's a mix of rooted misconception, poor nutrition education and old cultural conventions that keeps people clueless about handling a planet based diet.
I'm not sure why the "unbalanced diet" argument is always brought up, but people wouldn't even tackle this subject and won't even consider it as a concern, even in the slightest, when looking on the animal-based diet. Hospitals, obesity, diabetes, atherosclerosis - it's filled with people living on a so-called "balanced" diet that consists animal-based products.

[caprimint]

I don't like the "we were made to eat meat!" argument, I mean who says? And so what if that's true anyway? I'm sure there are many things that we should do but we don't because it's a personal preference, like who actually gives a ****

[Marsh.]

I don't think we are naturally entitalled to anything,we just take what we want ,not many really care about the consequences ,I mean look at the plastic in the ocean now killing the sealife.all that because we are entitalled? I dont think so.
Of course we are. There's a food chain for a reason. Some animals entire purpose is to provide food for other living creatures. :joker:

Poisoning the ocean with plastic is something else entirely. Stop arguing back with something completely irrelevant.

[Marsh.]

I don't like the "we were made to eat meat!" argument, I mean who says? And so what if that's true anyway? I'm sure there are many things that we should do but we don't because it's a personal preference, like who actually gives a ****
Personal preference is fine.

Using that personal preference to say "I'm doing what's right!" is something else.

[Jessica.]

Marsh, why are you so passionate about this? Nobody told you to stop eating meat. Also, watch a documentary, maybe. You could watch Rotten on Netflix or Earthlings.

[armand.kay]

Obviously if everyone in Britain did that it would be affected.

We're not talking about that though. What actual difference does some people being vegetarian make to the meat industry? Not a jot.
More and more people are going veggie and its becoming less aline, the meat and dairy industry have had a sight decrease in profit, companies are now investing more into plant based alternative. I believe a difference is being made its just not gonna happen overnight.
It doesn't though.

Humans enjoy meat and will continue to as they are naturally entitled to.

The way in which we get that meat may no longer be "natural" but there's all kinds of things that are no longer done naturally as in the past and are fundamentally a part of being human.

Everyone has the choice what they want to do what they don't want to do, and what they like to eat and what they don't like to eat. But let's not exaggerate.

Why are humans are entitled to enslave, abuse and slaughter other being? What gives us that right? Because we're smarter?

The way we get meat is not only unnatural its also heartless and immoral. People need to realise that when they choose to buy meat they're supporting the suffering that farm animals are put through and they're supporting the damage to the environment the meat and dairy industry is causing.

[Jessica.]

:sad: I feel worse for animals every day.

[caprimint]

Personal preference is fine.

Using that personal preference to say "I'm doing what's right!" is something else.
Tbh from my experience I've heard more non-vegetarians/vegans say that :omgno:

[Marsh.]

More and more people are going veggie and its becoming less aline, the meat and dairy industry have had a sight decrease in profit, companies are now investing more into plant based alternative. I believe a difference is being made its just not gonna happen overnight.


Why are humans are entitled to enslave, abuse and slaughter other being? What gives us that right? Because we're smarter?

The way we get meat is not only unnatural its also heartless and immoral. People need to realise that when they choose to buy meat they're supporting the suffering that farm animals are put through and they're supporting the damage to the environment the meat and dairy industry is causing.
No because that's nature. The food chain. :hee:

Some of the methods might have changed but meat eating itself is perfectly natural.

[thesheriff443]

You can always tell a vegetarian, Jess. They're the ones who can't get the lid off the pickle jar.

Put a lid on it Livia

[Marsh.]

Put a lid on it Livia
As a meat eater, she's able to. :hehe:

[Withano]

Theres not as much demand for meet and dairy because they're not having it as much as usual, if everybody in Britain decided to only eat meet once a day the meet industry would be shook. Its all about little changes that make a big difference.

I mean, sure. But that will effectively end the planet in a decade or less. Imagine how many hundred extra factories we'd need in Britain to make that processed pretend stuff.

[Smithy]

Theres not as much demand for meet and dairy because they're not having it as much as usual, if everybody in Britain decided to only eat meet once a day the meet industry would be shook. Its all about little changes that make a big difference.

Meat, hunny, MEAT

[armand.kay]

No because that's nature. The food chain. :hee:

Some of the methods might have changed but meat eating itself is perfectly natural.
So natural that the meat and dairy industry is one of the biggest causes of climate change, so natural that a lot of people who work in abattoirs are psychologically damaged?
I mean, sure. But that will effectively end the planet in a decade or less. Imagine how many hundred extra factories we'd need in Britain to make that processed pretend stuff.
I can’t imagine that would do a better job at ending the planet than the meat and dairy industry.
Meat, hunny, MEAT

So vegan I can’t even bare to spell the word

[Withano]

I can’t imagine that would do a better job at ending the planet than the meat and dairy industry.



65million people would need up to three factory-made meals a day, how does that sound better for the environment haha.

[Marsh.]

A lot of people who work in lots of places are psychologically damaged.

Usually it's to do with people doing jobs they're no good at. But you get that in most industries.

[Marsh.]

Yeah let's prevent climate change... By simply using the resources and energy elsewhere.

[armand.kay]

65million people would need up to three factory-made meals a day, how does that sound better for the environment haha.

It is possible to be vegetarian or vegan without only eating factory made meals lol. Vegetables? carbs? I barely ever eat processed food. Eating meat 3 times a day every day is a fairly recent thing you have to look no further than to when our grand parents were children most people had meat once day if that. they weren't swamped with quorn factories then I'm sure it would be possible to return to eating like that without causing that.

With the amount of fresh water needed to produce mean, the amount of land and the amount CO2 it produces, I believe it would be very hard to cause anywhere near as much damage let alone more .

[Jessica.]

You might think it's natural to eat meat because you were raised on that idea, but not everything that's natural is the right way. Also, we are able to rationalise doing less harm and being less cruel. None can be 100% cruelty free in this day and age, but at least we can make a little bit of effort to do what we're able to. Right now, it's not convenient for me to stop eating animals, but I'm able to and that makes a difference to me and my conscience, as well as all of the animals I'm not going to eat. Am I wrong for this?

[armand.kay]

A lot of people who work in lots of places are psychologically damaged.

Usually it's to do with people doing jobs they're no good at. But you get that in most industries.

Ah yes the disproportionate cases of PTSD in the office place!

[Marsh.]

Ah yes the disproportionate cases of PTSD in the office place!
Who mentioned offices?

There are all kinds of unpleasant jobs that take a big toll on people. Some are suited and some aren't.

I just think your idealised vegetarian world is just that, idealised. :shrug:

[Withano]

It is possible to be vegetarian or vegan without only eating factory made meals lol. Vegetables? carbs? I barely ever eat processed food. Eating meat 3 times a day every day is a fairly recent thing you have to look no further than to when our grand parents were children most people had meat once day if that. they weren't swamped with quorn factories then I'm sure it would be possible to return to eating like that without causing that.

With the amount of fresh water needed to produce mean, the amount of land and the amount CO2 it produces, I believe it would be very hard to cause anywhere near as much damage let alone more .

I can see the appeal in a country-full of people who grow their own crops in their garden, and cuddles cattle in their factory-free world because nobody is allowed quorn either.. but in reality, thats just not gonna happen, its the most unimaginable hypothetical discussion I've had for years, its not gonna be that easy to feed 65million three or four times a day, factory-made, mass-produced food is gonna need to exist, and thats the last thing the wildlife needs right now... and all the farm animals would die out anyway cos theyre pretty useless and easy prey and it would be nobodys job to look after them

[AnnieK]

You might think it's natural to eat meat because you were raised on that idea, but not everything that's natural is the right way. Also, we are able to rationalise doing less harm and being less cruel. None can be 100% cruelty free in this day and age, but at least we can make a little bit of effort to do what we're able to. Right now, it's not convenient for me to stop eating animals, but I'm able to and that makes a difference to me and my conscience, as well as all of the animals I'm not going to eat. Am I wrong for this?

Of course you're not wrong....it is your personal preference. Just as eating meat is other people's. As long as you are doing what is right for you, its not up to others to argue or criticise

[Withano]

You might think it's natural to eat meat because you were raised on that idea, but not everything that's natural is the right way.

Yeh, me, my parents, and their ancestors for the last 2 and a half million years before that were brought up on this idea.

(you are completely entitled to be veggie, obviously. It just wouldnt benefit the world if everybody was, actually it would be a complete hinderance to Earth imo)

[armand.kay]

Who mentioned offices?

There are all kinds of unpleasant jobs that take a big toll on people. Some are suited and some aren't.

I just think your idealised vegetarian world is just that, idealised. :shrug:

I've never once said the whole world should be vegetarian, I've just criticised the meat industry and suggested that more people should consider going vegetarian/vegan and even meat eaters should eat less meat. If not for the animals then for the planet we all live on. Also like I said yesterday meat and dairy sails are declining and demand more vegan options is going up so maybe it's not so idealised :shrug:

[armand.kay]

Yeh, me, my parents, and their ancestors for the last 2 and a half million years before that were brought up on this idea.

(you are completely entitled to be veggie, obviously. It just wouldnt benefit the world if everybody was, actually it would be a complete hinderance to Earth imo)

(I don't think the whole world should be vegetarian but we need to cut down on meat consumption and do something about the unethical practices of the meat industry thats all I've been trying to say in this thread.)

[Withano]

(I don't think the whole world should be vegetarian but we need to cut down on meat consumption and do something about the unethical practices of the meat industry thats all I've been trying to say in this thread.)

Meh, if we ate 100 million less cows a year, 100 million less cows would be bred, and the majority would wanna replace those meals with a quorn burger. I cant see it being too helpful if I'm completely honest.

[ginkgo]

Imo pigs and cows are on par with small children, not a fan of speciesist killing of them. And about the natural cycle thing i think we have gone past it as a species and I wouldnt think its fair enough if another 'more advanced' alien species would come here and force us to cages to feed and breed because that's just natural domination cycle

[Marsh.]

Imo pigs and cows are on par with small children, not a fan of speciesist killing of them. And about the natural cycle thing i think we have gone past it as a species and I wouldnt think its fair enough if another 'more advanced' alien species would come here and force us to cages to feed and breed because that's just natural domination cycle
Not aliens. :laugh2:

If that was part of evolution then so be it.

But we're a bit different from pigs as a species. Obviously.

[Jessica.]

We're not better than other animals. They are helpless, they don't deserve what humans put them through. We can make choices that either contribute to these innocent creatures with brains and hearts being hurt or we can decide not to.

Also, I worry for anyone who can't put a meal together without animal or something like quorn in it.

[Marsh.]

I didn't say better. I said different.

Obviously.

I worry for anyone who gives up food because their cat is cute. :umm2:

[Lostie!]

Pretty ridiculous that any vegetarian related topic on here has to descend into juvenile mud slinging

[Marsh.]

Pretty ridiculous that any vegetarian related topic on here has to descend into juvenile mud slinging
Aliens though. :hehe:

[Ashley.]

Also, I worry for anyone who can't put a meal together without animal or something like quorn in it.

Why should that worry you?

[ginkgo]

Aliens though. :hehe:

Aliens are more plausible than god tho and many believe in god, so that simple though experiment shouldn't be so ridiculous

[ginkgo]

Not aliens. :laugh2:

If that was part of evolution then so be it.

But we're a bit different from pigs as a species. Obviously.
If it's part of evolution then are wars fair enough because if you can dominate others, you should? Don't get how evolution means you have to dominate.
Pigs arent far off from small children.

[Marsh.]

Aliens are more plausible than god tho and many believe in god, so that simple though experiment shouldn't be so ridiculous
No. This isn't about the existence of religion or aliens. It's about aliens being brought into a discussion about vegetarians.

[Marsh.]

If it's part of evolution then are wars fair enough because if you can dominate others, you should? Don't get how evolution means you have to dominate.
Pigs arent far off from small children.
Wars don't have anything to do with evolution or nature.

I'm not sure why you keep changing the topic tbh.

[AnnieK]

We're not better than other animals. They are helpless, they don't deserve what humans put them through. We can make choices that either contribute to these innocent creatures with brains and hearts being hurt or we can decide not to.

Also, I worry for anyone who can't put a meal together without animal or something like quorn in it.

I'm sure most people could put a meal together without meat, the fact is many people don't want to. Nothing to do with inadequacy. So I wouldn't worry.

[Jamie89]

You might think it's natural to eat meat because you were raised on that idea, but not everything that's natural is the right way. Also, we are able to rationalise doing less harm and being less cruel. None can be 100% cruelty free in this day and age, but at least we can make a little bit of effort to do what we're able to. Right now, it's not convenient for me to stop eating animals, but I'm able to and that makes a difference to me and my conscience, as well as all of the animals I'm not going to eat. Am I wrong for this?

It's an interesting point, something being the normal way of doing things doesn't mean it's natural, if you think about wearing clothes for example I think most people would agree it's not because it's natural... I mean we call people who don't 'naturists' :laugh: yet how long have humans worn clothes for?
I think social norms probably play a big part in all of this actually, because where comparisons between us and other animals and the food chain etc (when it comes to whether or not meat eating is natural/instinctive) are concerned, it's ignoring that we're very different to most other animals in the extent to which we're effected by social conditioning, and I can only speak for myself but I'm pretty sure I don't feel instinctive urges to eat animals. If you think about the meat we eat and our urges towards it and how much we enjoy it etc we think of how it looks and tastes after cooking... not many of us would be happy eating raw animal flesh and it can also be dangerous for us to do so... we literally have to turn it into something unrecognisable for it to be appealing to us and for it to be safe, and that doesn't seem 'natural' to me? I think it's very possible that similar to the clothes example we may have started eating meat through necessity, and it developed into a social norm from there.
The more I think about it the more I think there's definitely an argument for vegetarianism as being more natural.

[Jamie89]

On the moral thing though, I struggle a bit with that because if meat eating isn't the natural way, it's hard to argue that it's moral. I suppose in terms of importance I'd say that it's ok to view animals as less important than us because that's a natural thing for any species to think? I definitely wouldn't view an animal as being equal to a child/relative/anyone tbh. But does that make it ok to kill them so I can have a tasty meal? :think: I'm not sure what I think of all that tbh.

[Jessica.]

It's an interesting point, something being the normal way of doing things doesn't mean it's natural, if you think about wearing clothes for example I think most people would agree it's not because it's natural... I mean we call people who don't 'naturists' :laugh: yet how long have humans worn clothes for?
I think social norms probably play a big part in all of this actually, because where comparisons between us and other animals and the food chain etc (when it comes to whether or not meat eating is natural/instinctive) are concerned, it's ignoring that we're very different to most other animals in the extent to which we're effected by social conditioning, and I can only speak for myself but I'm pretty sure I don't feel instinctive urges to eat animals. If you think about the meat we eat and our urges towards it and how much we enjoy it etc we think of how it looks and tastes after cooking... not many of us would be happy eating raw animal flesh and it can also be dangerous for us to do so... we literally have to turn it into something unrecognisable for it to be appealing to us and for it to be safe, and that doesn't seem 'natural' to me? I think it's very possible that similar to the clothes example we may have started eating meat through necessity, and it developed into a social norm from there.
The more I think about it the more I think there's definitely an argument for vegetarianism as being more natural.

Excellent points there! :clap1: That's what I was trying to say.

[caprimint]

Some people suggest they 'can't live without meat' and include it in almost every meal, maybe because they think it's necessary or maybe because they want to...but it's perfectly possible to create many different meals without any source of meat/alternative that is still healthy and has variety :shrug:

[Marsh.]

And 90% of these other things Will, more often than not, come from an animal.

[Marsh.]

It's an interesting point, something being the normal way of doing things doesn't mean it's natural, if you think about wearing clothes for example I think most people would agree it's not because it's natural... I mean we call people who don't 'naturists' [emoji23] yet how long have humans worn clothes for?
I think social norms probably play a big part in all of this actually, because where comparisons between us and other animals and the food chain etc (when it comes to whether or not meat eating is natural/instinctive) are concerned, it's ignoring that we're very different to most other animals in the extent to which we're effected by social conditioning, and I can only speak for myself but I'm pretty sure I don't feel instinctive urges to eat animals. If you think about the meat we eat and our urges towards it and how much we enjoy it etc we think of how it looks and tastes after cooking... not many of us would be happy eating raw animal flesh and it can also be dangerous for us to do so... we literally have to turn it into something unrecognisable for it to be appealing to us and for it to be safe, and that doesn't seem 'natural' to me? I think it's very possible that similar to the clothes example we may have started eating meat through necessity, and it developed into a social norm from there.
The more I think about it the more I think there's definitely an argument for vegetarianism as being more natural.
Nobody said natural because it's the "normal" way. But because that's how nature works.

Man didn't start cooking meat so it no longer resembled a living animal. It serves many purposes including preventing disease.

[y.winter]

I do find it a nice thing the increase of pro-veg posts in this thread in comparison to previous discussions where people used to mock veganism, yet lose their mind on a "man kicks dog in the street and uploads it to facebook" threads.

It's always a good time to face the consequences of what we do, look it in the eye and ask ourselves if it's really necessary and if this is what we stand for. Watch a documentary, read facts, see pictures, don't just stand there so confident about how you would like to believe things are (and many people think they know, buy it would shock you how much you don't). At least face the reality you're funding. There are always ways to improve, I'm not saying that once you go vegan you're perfect, but it doesn't mean that you don't even try. I know I always try. It doesn't hurt.

You know, people make changes. Most vegetarians weren't born vegetarians, they just adjusted to it after being meat eaters (for me it was 4 years ago, at the "late" age of 22). It's not like you're either born to to being one or you're not. You eat meat, you stop - this is the whole drill.

[caprimint]

And 90% of these other things Will, more often than not, come from an animal.
Well vegans survive :idc:

[Denver]

Well vegans survive :idc:

Vegans dont care about plants though

[Jessica.]

I do find it a nice thing the increase of pro-veg posts in this thread in comparison to previous discussions where people used to mock veganism, yet lose their mind on a "man kicks dog in the street and uploads it to facebook" threads.

It's always a good time to face the consequences of what we do, look it in the eye and ask ourselves if it's really necessary and if this is what we stand for. Watch a documentary, read facts, see pictures, don't just stand there so confident about how you would like to believe things are (and many people think they know, buy it would shock you how much you don't). At least face the reality you're funding. There are always ways to improve, I'm not saying that once you go vegan you're perfect, but it doesn't mean that you don't even try. I know I always try. It doesn't hurt.

You know, people make changes. Most vegetarians weren't born vegetarians, they just adjusted to it after being meat eaters (for me it was 4 years ago, at the "late" age of 22). It's not like you're either born to to being one or you're not. You eat meat, you stop - this is the whole drill.

:clap1: Everything comes down to choices and all we can do is our best to use knowledge to help us decide on what we think is the best path to go down by using knowledge and having an open mind.

[Marsh.]

I do admire your choice even though it may not sound like it.

Like obviously this isn't dictated by your particular dislike of meat itself, so the willpower it must take is insane. All the power to you.

[Marsh.]

Well vegans survive :idc:
It's not about whether you can survive. [emoji23]

It's about making choices to avoid harm to animals. Does it extend beyond meat eating to other foods, and across cosmetic products, medicines etc etc.

[Jessica.]

It's not about whether you can survive. [emoji23]

It's about making choices to avoid harm to animals. Does it extend beyond meat eating to other foods, and across cosmetic products, medicines etc etc.

That's what a vegan lifestyle is all about, it's not just about eating animal products, it's about not having any animal products in your life, like not wearing leather or using anything tested on animals or with animal ingredients or animal secretions like eggs or wearing wool etc..

[Marsh.]

That's what a vegan lifestyle is all about, it's not just about eating animal products, it's about not having any animal products in your life, like not wearing leather or using anything tested on animals or with animal ingredients or animal secretions like eggs or wearing wool etc..
*eyes your leather jacket*

You have some work to do missy.

[Jessica.]

*eyes your leather jacket*

You have some work to do missy.

I am not vegan and I don't have a leather jacket.

[Marsh.]

I am not vegan and I don't have a leather jacket.
Oh so you only feel sorry for the meat. Not everything else. :oh:

[caprimint]

It's not about whether you can survive. [emoji23]

It's about making choices to avoid harm to animals. Does it extend beyond meat eating to other foods, and across cosmetic products, medicines etc etc.
Yeah, if you're vegan I assume it's pretty strict rather than just 'not eating dairy'. Maybe some do that if it's purely based on diet reasons, but most seem to be quite serious about it regarding their entire lifestyle choices

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i love animals but in reality me not eating meat isn’t going to stop them being slaughtered

like by becoming vegetarian i’m not helping those animals so i just don’t see the point

bur i would be here for new laws to come in that protect animals/outlaw farming etc (i’m being serious btw)

[Marsh.]

outlaw farming

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[armand.kay]

Vegans dont care about plants though

Plants aren’t sentient though? Some plants literally rely on their fruits being eaten in order to spread their seeds.

[Jessica.]

It's been a week now and I already want to go vegan. :joker: I just saw some more clips from the Earthlings documentary and it's so painful to watch.

[armand.kay]

It's been a week now and I already want to go vegan. :joker: I just saw some more clips from the Earthlings documentary and it's so painful to watch.

Yeah earthlings is carnage. You should watch forks over knives and cowspiracy; the first touches on the health benefits of a vegan diet and the latter on the effects of animal agriculture on the environment. I great place for vegan meal ideas is youtube, theres this Asian-American lady who I use to watch who did the best mukbangs. So annoying but I forgot her name.

[thesheriff443]

At the canibal restaurant, can we have the vegetarian special please.

[Jamie89]

Nobody said natural because it's the "normal" way. But because that's how nature works.

Man didn't start cooking meat so it no longer resembled a living animal. It serves many purposes including preventing disease.

That's what I meant about it being 'unsafe' :p My point was that having to alter it from it's natural state for whatever reason seems... unnatural, that we're not naturally inclined to eat it.

Although I'm sort of back on the fence now about the whole nature thing anyway after reading this https://veganbiologist.com/2016/01/04/humans-are-not-herbivores/

(there's an alien analogy so you might want to avoid it Marsh :laugh: )

It's not that relevant anyway really as most people will decide based on morals/preferences etc but it's interesting to think about the whole nature thing, it's not something I've ever really thought about before.

[Marsh.]

Plants aren’t sentient though? Some plants literally rely on their fruits being eaten in order to spread their seeds.
Me

[Jessica.]

At the canibal restaurant, can we have the vegetarian special please.

:shrug:

[Jessica.]

I can't believe how easy it's been, it's been almost two weeks now and I thought I'd be dying after this long but it has literally been so easy and way cheaper than eating meat. I feel so much healthier too, I haven't been bloated or anything like that, which used to happen to me all the time. :amazed: I can't get over how cheap it's been.

[y.winter]

Oh yes, absolutely. One of the most ridiculous assumptions when it comes to plant-based diet, is that it's expensive. Another excuse people tell themselves to avoid going veg, same as with the "unhealthy" argument.

Glad to see that you're finding it easy :love::hug:

I'd recommend to anyone interested, look for Challenge 22+, it's something that started in my country and spread worldwide. I personally didn't do it, but I always hear it's very helpful for those who don't know where to begin.

[Cal.]

The 'you're not helping animals so no point' argument is ridiculous. If every vegan and vegetarian still ate meat it's pretty obvious more animals would be being bred to suffer and be slaughtered than there currently is right now. That number of animals will only decrease as the number of vegetarians and vegans rises.

[Jessica.]

I know right.

[user104658]

It's surprisingly easy and the food is yummy. I'm an ex vegetarian

lol

[Marsh.]

The 'you're not helping animals so no point' argument is ridiculous. If every vegan and vegetarian still ate meat it's pretty obvious more animals would be being bred to suffer and be slaughtered than there currently is right now. That number of animals will only decrease as the number of vegetarians and vegans rises.
You greatly overestimate the number of vegetarians and vegans.

Vegetarians especially are still consuming innumerable products that use animal produce so their "mark" is barely even felt.

[Marsh.]

That's what I meant about it being 'unsafe' [emoji14] My point was that having to alter it from it's natural state for whatever reason seems... unnatural, that we're not naturally inclined to eat it.

Although I'm sort of back on the fence now about the whole nature thing anyway after reading this https://veganbiologist.com/2016/01/04/humans-are-not-herbivores/

(there's an alien analogy so you might want to avoid it Marsh [emoji23] )

It's not that relevant anyway really as most people will decide based on morals/preferences etc but it's interesting to think about the whole nature thing, it's not something I've ever really thought about before.
So explain the many cooked vegetarian meals which alter the ingredients from their original state.

That reasoning is ridiculous.

[Jessica.]

So explain the many cooked vegetarian meals which alter the ingredients from their original state.

That reasoning is ridiculous.

Nobody is going to get e coli or salmonella if they haven't cooked their carrot though.

[Jessica.]

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[Ammi]

..well done Jess..:love:...I’ve been a non meat eater for many years but vegetarianism is something I’m also considering atm myself...

[Marsh.]

Nobody is going to get e coli or salmonella if they haven't cooked their carrot though.
No. No poisons or diseases ever came from a fruit or a vegetable.

[Jessica.]

..well done Jess..:love:...I’ve been a non meat eater for many years but vegetarianism is something I’m also considering atm myself...

Thank you Ammi! :love: I love animals so much, I just couldn't go on eating them.

[Marsh.]

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[Jessica.]

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I fixed it. :hee:

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[Jessica.]

It's two weeks today!

[Lostie!]

It's two weeks today!

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[Jessica.]

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I have never eaten so many beans in my life.

[Jessica.]

20 days now! I am loving it!

[Jessica.]

I haven't had meat in a whole month now, this is definitely right for me. I love eating lots of veggies and causing a smaller impact on the pain of animals and the environment

[y.winter]

I'm so happy to read it :love:

[GoldHeart]

Some of the vegetarian & vegan food is nice but I could never go full vegetarian :joker: .

[Marsh.]

I have never eaten so many beans in my life.

I bet your knickers REEK!

[Ross.]

I bet your knickers REEK!

:joker::joker::joker:

[Ross.]

I’m sorry Jessica I’m ashamed of myself for enabling him!

[Jessica.]

Some of the vegetarian & vegan food is nice but I could never go full vegetarian :joker: .
You could, but okay..

I bet your knickers REEK!
Excuse me, cleanliness is next to godliness. Also I smell nicer since I am not ingesting weird meat juices.

I’m sorry Jessica I’m ashamed of myself for enabling him!
You very well should be! :nono:

[Jessica.]

I went to lunch at somebody else's house yesterday and all I could eat was white rice. :joker:

[AnnieK]

Do you feel any different health wise Jess? More energy, less energy etc? Or just the same?

[Jessica.]

Do you feel any different health wise Jess? More energy, less energy etc? Or just the same?

I feel quite a lot better, I feel like I have more energy and I am way more enthusiastic about eating healthy and trying new things. :cheer2:

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[Mystic Mock]

Some of the vegetarian & vegan food is nice but I could never go full vegetarian :joker: .

Same here.

Credit to Jessica for doing it though, that definitely takes alot of willpower.

[Jessica.]

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I have pizza and curry and roast dinners and stuff, I wouldn't call that rabbit food. :shrug: I just don't eat animals.

[Niamh.]

Me and Gav are thinking about going veggie :think:

[arista]

Well Done Jess
if you feel far better
thats good.

But if you cheat
you must Post it.

[Jessica.]

I still haven't cheated, Arista.

I am so excited for my one year anniversary of being veggie, it has been way easier than I expected and I have a much better relationship with food now!

[arista]

I still haven't cheated, Arista.

I am so excited for my one year anniversary of being veggie, it has been way easier than I expected and I have a much better relationship with food now!


Well Done Jess

[Jessica.]

Well Done Jess

Thank you

[Marsh.]

I have pizza and curry and roast dinners and stuff, I wouldn't call that rabbit food. :shrug: I just don't eat animals.

Unless you lead a totally vegan lifestyle, you're still using animal products/processed foods so aren't lessening any animal suffering.

[Braden]

Not to intrude on your thread because you're achievement is fantastic, but I've recently become a vegetarian too. Over a month in the making and feel great for it.

[armand.kay]

oh girls we're taking over

[Marsh.]

Why did brat delete his post?

[brat.]

Why did brat delete his post?

coz am mysterious :p

[Jessica.]

Unless you lead a totally vegan lifestyle, you're still using animal products/processed foods so aren't lessening any animal suffering.

My lifestyle is completely vegan apart from Cheese, basically, the only reason I still it cheese is because of how much it is a part of Portuguese culture as a whole, I'll go off it eventually but it makes my life easier to just stay with it for now. I feel like I have done pretty well so far with all of the other aspects.

[Jessica.]

Not to intrude on your thread because you're achievement is fantastic, but I've recently become a vegetarian too. Over a month in the making and feel great for it.

Congratulations!! Keep it up. :D

[Jessica.]

Today is my two year anniversary of being vegetarian! I'm so happy, it's going great and I love being more conscious about what I eat. I'd recommend it to anyone, even if you just do meatless Mondays or something!

[Dogeatdog]

Congratulations Jess. It’s great to know that you’re doing well with this, it shows that you’ve got great tenacity :hee: I know a fair few people who have tried to go Vege but tend to slip back.

Today is my two year anniversary of being vegetarian! I'm so happy, it's going great and I love being more conscious about what I eat. I'd recommend it to anyone, even if you just do meatless Mondays or something!

This is a good idea actually and something I hadn’t thought about doing before so I might try it?

[Cal.]

Today is my two year anniversary of being vegetarian! I'm so happy, it's going great and I love being more conscious about what I eat. I'd recommend it to anyone, even if you just do meatless Mondays or something!

Well done Jess!

I turned vegetarian on New Years Day as well! Not a big deal for me mind as I’ve been an on/off veggie since like 2014.

[Jessica.]

Congratulations Jess. It’s great to know that you’re doing well with this, it shows that you’ve got great tenacity :hee: I know a fair few people who have tried to go Vege but tend to slip back.



This is a good idea actually and something I hadn’t thought about doing before so I might try it?
Thanks pal
Yeah, meatless Monday is a really good way to see if it would work for you in the long run and it's already an established thing that people do so you can find tips online and stuff.

Well done Jess!

I turned vegetarian on New Years Day as well! Not a big deal for me mind as I’ve been an on/off veggie since like 2014.
Thanks Miss Louise
Good job, angel, you've saved animals already since the 1st