Self or Ann Obsessed?

[jaxie]

I quite liked Andrew when they first went in but I've cooled towards him considerably. I could have said he might be one of the most self obsessed people I've seen on the show, if he wasn't so obsessed with Ann that is. :shrug:

Ann told him off because he approached her about getting one of the girls to wax his bum. She rightly said ask a man to do it. Ever since he has been absorbed with all things Ann, trying to paint her in a bad light. She is 70, he needs to get a grip, self centred pratt.

[BBUK-Fan]

Self obsessed, fake, two faced twat

[Kazanne]

I quite liked Andrew when they first went in but I've cooled towards him considerably. I could have said he might be one of the most self obsessed people I've seen on the show, if he wasn't so obsessed with Ann that is. :shrug:

Ann told him off because he approached her about getting one of the girls to wax his bum. She rightly said ask a man to do it. Ever since he has been absorbed with all things Ann, trying to paint her in a bad light. She is 70, he needs to get a grip, self centred pratt.

Only one intimidated by Ann is Andrew himself,the pillock

[montblanc]

Self obsessed, fake, two faced twat

couldn't have said it better myself

[Jamie89]

Totally self obsessed. He seems to fixate on people who slightly go against him which would explain the Ann thing, he's doing a similar thing with Jess too which I think started when she told him off for interrupting her conversation? I think he probably has a very high opinion of himself and doesn't quite understand why other people might not.

[Natawho]

Rat

[bots]

I quite liked Andrew when they first went in but I've cooled towards him considerably. I could have said he might be one of the most self obsessed people I've seen on the show, if he wasn't so obsessed with Ann that is. :shrug:

Ann told him off because he approached her about getting one of the girls to wax his bum. She rightly said ask a man to do it. Ever since he has been absorbed with all things Ann, trying to paint her in a bad light. She is 70, he needs to get a grip, self centred pratt.

he knows he looked a complete wally saying that to Ann, so he is behaving like a child. I half expect him to start calling her "Smelly Ann" to his other schoolyard mates

[odd sock]

Totally self obsessed. He seems to fixate on people who slightly go against him which would explain the Ann thing, he's doing a similar thing with Jess too which I think started when she told him off for interrupting her conversation? I think he probably has a very high opinion of himself and doesn't quite understand why other people might not.Spot on :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Amy Jade]

He's really not a nice guy at all he is definitely self obsessed.

He seems to take issue with anyone who challenges him, that being Ann and Jess. I also think that is why he hangs around with Shane j - Shane has become his yes person and Andrew is so self absorbed he only wants fans not friends

[Natawho]

He's really not a nice guy at all he is definitely self obsessed.

He seems to take issue with anyone who challenges him, that being Ann and Jess. I also think that is why he hangs around with Shane j - Shane has become his yes person and Andrew is so self absorbed he only wants fans not friends

Less dramatic Ellie/Lotan teas with Shane and Andrew which is such a shame because Shane cut loose would clearly be so much more entertaining than he is now. He literally spends all of his time saying yes and nodding. :nono:

[jaxie]

He's really not a nice guy at all he is definitely self obsessed.

He seems to take issue with anyone who challenges him, that being Ann and Jess. I also think that is why he hangs around with Shane j - Shane has become his yes person and Andrew is so self absorbed he only wants fans not friends

I think you've nailed Andrew there. :clap1:

[Miranda123]

I quite liked Andrew when they first went in but I've cooled towards him considerably. I could have said he might be one of the most self obsessed people I've seen on the show, if he wasn't so obsessed with Ann that is. :shrug:

Ann told him off because he approached her about getting one of the girls to wax his bum. She rightly said ask a man to do it. Ever since he has been absorbed with all things Ann, trying to paint her in a bad light. She is 70, he needs to get a grip, self centred pratt.

Who asks a woman in her 70's that kind of question ?

He spent the first few days spewing apologies to Ann for every swear word or 'near the knuckle' comment, but now he is asking her who he should get to shave his nether regions ??

He is really starting to grate on me

[Robodog]

Yep his mask is slipping

Behind the big friendly charade is someone self-obsessed with maybe a bit of a nasty streak in there

Also - don't trust his whole friendship with Shane J : I think Andrew is trying to copy CBB winner James Hill (also from the Apprentice) who won mainly off the back of his straight/gay bromance with Austin

I reckon Andrew is latching onto Shane/Courtney for that reason

[Jason.]

Totally self obsessed. He seems to fixate on people who slightly go against him which would explain the Ann thing, he's doing a similar thing with Jess too which I think started when she told him off for interrupting her conversation? I think he probably has a very high opinion of himself and doesn't quite understand why other people might not.

He's really not a nice guy at all he is definitely self obsessed.

He seems to take issue with anyone who challenges him, that being Ann and Jess. I also think that is why he hangs around with Shane j - Shane has become his yes person and Andrew is so self absorbed he only wants fans not friends

:clap1:

[poppsywoppsy]

Andrew is blaming Ann for the girls not being in the smoking area with him and his so called mates.

Notice to Andrew. They are just not into you, they do not want to be near you, they would rather go to bed than sit with you.

No good blaming Ann, they are grown women who do not want to be with a confused, self obsessed moron who even his mates don't like.

[Miranda123]

Andrew is blaming Ann for the girls not being in the smoking area with him and his so called mates.

Notice to Andrew. They are just not into you, they do not want to be near you, they would rather go to bed than sit with you.

No good blaming Ann, they are grown women who do not want to be with a confused, self obsessed moron who even his mates don't like.

My thoughts exactly, as if those girls would stand for Ann telling them to go to bed if they wanted to stay up and party

I dont think she would do that anyway, though she might ask that they be quiet when going to bed

I think that Andrew thinks she is the one out of all who may not be liked, so he is focusing on her to try to get the public not to vote for her but vote for him

Hopefully,we can ask him when he comes out on Friday

[Amy Jade]

I've said it elsewhere but as a young gal myself if I had to chose between an early night or sitting in the smoking area with Andrew listening to him talking about himself and his opinions all night and Shane J hanging off his every word I would be straight to bed!

[rionablue]

I quite liked Andrew when they first went in but I've cooled towards him considerably. I could have said he might be one of the most self obsessed people I've seen on the show, if he wasn't so obsessed with Ann that is. :shrug:

Ann told him off because he approached her about getting one of the girls to wax his bum. She rightly said ask a man to do it. Ever since he has been absorbed with all things Ann, trying to paint her in a bad light. She is 70, he needs to get a grip, self centred pratt.

He is a complete moron gossiping about the women to his cronies. Sour faced miserable bastard who STILL slates Jess even though she is sharing the task with him. In a way I am glad those two are together because if ANDREW won with anyone else she would save himself and put her up. God I have never been so disappointed in a housemate. He is vanity personified thinks he is the bees knees and unfortunately if he is still up by friday he will be saved for his pretty boy looks BECAUSE if he IS SAVED he has brought NOTHING to the show

[Miranda123]

Only one intimidated by Ann is Andrew himself,the pillock

So glad we agree Kazanne!

[Withano]

Its difficult to call him a bitch or anything, after Ann literally proved him right perfectly haha. It was more character profiling.

[Christmas Lights]

He's ruined this CBB for me ,I've stopped watching for 2 days :bored:

[Cherry Christmas]

Andrew is blaming Ann for the girls not being in the smoking area with him and his so called mates.

Notice to Andrew. They are just not into you, they do not want to be near you, they would rather go to bed than sit with you.

No good blaming Ann, they are grown women who do not want to be with a confused, self obsessed moron who even his mates don't like.

His argument fell down as none of the other men were there either unless Ann has locked them in the bedroom too and even Jonny walked off in the end

[Christmas Lights]

His argument fell down as none of the other men were there either unless Ann has locked them in the bedroom too and even Jonny walked off in the end

Andrew is getting to the final, he's ruined the show :mad:. I'm sick of him and his bitch Shane J who's always massaging his ego :bored: .

[Jase.]

Oh! Another thread, another post from GoldHeart moaning about Andrew and Shane!

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Malika has also been saying that Ann is controlling. Rachel has been complaining about Ann on a clip shown on Bots. So no, it's not only Andrew who talks about Ann :hee:

[Amy Jade]

Oh! Another thread, another post from GoldHeart moaning about Andrew and Shane!

Yes. God forbid GoldHeart use the forum for it's intended purpose :umm2:

[Jase.]

Yes. God forbid GoldHeart use the forum for it's intended purpose :umm2:

And I'll still find it irritating as **** :umm2: :umm2:

[GreenIce]

His argument fell down as none of the other men were there either unless Ann has locked them in the bedroom too and even Jonny walked off in the end

Exactly.

I wonder what he'll say if Ann goes and people continue to behave exactly as they do now?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Now we're starting to see the bigger picture. Andrew, Malika and Rachel all saying the same thing. It's three people and not just one!

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I will add Shane to that list of people.

[Christmas Lights]

And I'll still find it irritating as **** :umm2: :umm2:

Everyone on this forum has a moan about who they dislike in CBB get over it :sleep:

[Amy Jade]

And I'll still find it irritating as **** :umm2: :umm2:

You know where the ignore button is x

[Jase.]

Everyone on this forum has a moan about who they dislike in CBB get over it :sleep:

"has a moan" - it's literally your post history love

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

"has a moan" - it's literally your post history love

i'm glad other housemates are starting to speak up. now malika need to stay. hoping rachel stays now. they will speak up.

[Jase.]

Now we're starting to see the bigger picture. Andrew, Malika and Rachel all saying the same thing. It's three people and not just one!

:clap1:

[Jase.]

i'm glad other housemates are starting to speak up. now malika need to stay. hoping rachel stays now. they will speak up.

I think Rachel's a dead cert to go unfortunately which is a shame :(

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

:clap1:

Hopefully one of them will survive the eviction and continue to speak up.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I think Rachel's a dead cert to go unfortunately which is a shame :(

It depends how the task changes things. The save and replace.

[JerseyWins]

Honestly he was right about Ann at the end of the show - she proved him right in that very moment. :joker:

But still, definitely self-obsessed. Keeps annoying me more and more.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

So that make Malika and Rahcel also self obsessed. They both talk about Ann. :hee:

[JerseyWins]

Now we're starting to see the bigger picture. Andrew, Malika and Rachel all saying the same thing. It's three people and not just one!
Tbf Andrew & Rachel are two of the most self-obsessed in there with "my way or the highway" mentality. And Ann has challenged them & their ways. So that just makes sense really and doesn't prove anything about Ann. (idk about Malika)

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Tbf Andrew & Rachel are two of the most self-obsessed in there with "my way or the highway" mentality. And Ann has challenged them & their ways. So that just makes sense really and doesn't prove anything about Ann. (idk about Malika)

Of course, anyone who challenges Ann is self obsessed. Got it! :pipe:

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

I think he's finding his role as the Alpha male too comfortable, nothing more. He's saying Ann is trying to control the house, but he's slowly trying to pick people off the others and create a little clique where he can undermine people emotionally (and energetically/personality-wise here). That's his boat she's trying to rock... he's annoyed he can't do the very thing that he's claiming that Ann is.

Other than that, I wouldn't say he is intentionally being calculating. I think he's playing to his character (super confident brah) and trying to get more camera time since he is up for nom... grab dat chick vote

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I think he's finding his role as the Alpha male too comfortable, nothing more. He's saying Ann is trying to control the house, but he's slowly trying to pick people off the others and create a little clique where he can undermine people emotionally (and energetically/personality-wise here). That's his boat she's trying to rock... he's annoyed he can't do the very thing that he's claiming that Ann is.

Other than that, I wouldn't say he is intentionally being calculating. I think he's playing to his character (super confident brah) and trying to get more camera time since he is up for nom... grab dat chick vote

You can't even say anything about Ann without being accused of being self obsessed or a game player. As much as i like Ann, this is the kind of thing that is putting me off her. There's no debate anymore, just accusations. And that's sad.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

And in a way I kinda understand Ann's need to keep an eye on the girls... I mean, by now the garden would be overflowing with showmances and she's helping to keep them on the straight and narrow. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It has a very kind and protective vibe to it... and maybe the girls feel secure somewhat with her around, because she's got that nana vibe going on. I think it is an interesting dynamic and I'm chuckling at what a cockblock she's become in some ways :laugh:...

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

And in a way I kinda understand Ann's need to keep an eye on the girls... I mean, by now the garden would be overflowing with showmances and she's helping to keep them on the straight and narrow. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It has a very kind and protective vibe to it... and maybe the girls feel secure somewhat with her around, because she's got that nana vibe going on. I think it is an interesting dynamic and I'm chuckling at what a cockblock she's become in some ways :laugh:...

But some of them have said they find Ann controlling. And its not just Andrew. Malika and Rachel both said it.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

You can't even say anything about Ann without being accused of being self obsessed or a game player. As much as i like Ann, this is the kind of thing that is putting me off her. There's no debate anymore, just accusations. And that's sad.

Who is "you"? Me?

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

But some of them have said they find Ann controlling. And its not just Andrew. Malika and Rachel both said it.

Ok

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Who is "you"? Me?

No, i mean in general. As soon as you try to make a point in here you then find ten threads, all saying i hate Andrew. Impossible to debate.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

No, i mean in general. As soon as you try to make a point in here you then find ten threads, all saying i hate Andrew. Impossible to debate.

Oh... I like Ann, but I don't have as much issue with Andrew as some on the board. I don't think either is being controlling. I think it's a house and you can't always get along :shrug:... Ann is being Ann, and Andrew is being Andrew and both of them are oil and water--he's young and wants to flirt and be merry... and Ann, I think she has a reputation she feels she needs to keep up--which is understandable with her background.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Oh... I like Ann, but I don't have as much issue with Andrew as some on the board. I don't think either is being controlling. I think it's a house and you can't always get along :shrug:... Ann is being Ann, and Andrew is being Andrew and both of them are oil and water--he's young and wants to flirt and be merry... and Ann thinks has a reputation I think she feels she needs to keep up--which is understandable with her background.

I like both as well. I also don't think Andrew is as bad as some people are saying. I think both are terrific housemates.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

I like both as well. I also don't think Andrew is as bad as some people are saying. I think both are terrific housemates.

Andrew is up there in the Top 3 I think to become potential ****-stirrers, but I would wager there are more complaints of the lack of **** flinging, so he may go up in estimations depending on how he does it...

Though I suspect he's majorly annoyed by the constant cockblocking by the older women... which I find utterly hilarious....

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Andrew is up there in the Top 3 I think to become potential ****-stirrers, but I would wager there are more complaints of the lack of **** flinging, so he may go up in estimations depending on how he does it...

Though I suspect he's majorly annoyed by the constant cockblocking by the older women... which I find utterly hilarious....

:joker: at least there's always Courtney. She always puts a smile on his face!

[Garfie]

I think Andrew is self-obsessed, he talks rather than listens and he thinks he's always right.
However, I do think there is some truth in what he is saying- other people have said they moderate their behaviour around Ann, whether that is due to respect for her or fear of upsetting her.

In all honesty, although I don't particularly like Andrew, I think he has contributed a lot more to the show than Ann and would prefer him to stay over her as I think there is potential for more drama from him.

[The Grinch]

Gone off Andrew now.

[Gusto Brunt]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

He has a granny fetish.

[Garfie]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

He has a granny fetish.

:laugh:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Everything he's been saying about Ann is the truth. Rachel, Malika also agree.

[Patricia4]

I like Andrew he speaks the truth about Ann.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I like Andrew he speaks the truth about Ann.

And he's not the only one who finds Ann controlling. Rachel, Malika and Shane also said that.

[poppsywoppsy]

And he's not the only one who finds Ann controlling. Rachel, Malika and Shane also said that.

I do think that Rachel has a political bias against Ann rather than anything Ann has done.

Malika has a downer over everyone at the moment and Shane has become Andrews mouthpiece and has lost that calm intelligence he showed in the first place.

So what is so wrong in being polite and respectful towards an elderly lady.

[jaxie]

Everything he's been saying about Ann is the truth. Rachel, Malika also agree.

Then why are they all on a clip on last night's bots praising Ann for getting the lights off?

I think Ann is someone to bitch about, and none of them, including Andrew are doing themselves any favours bitching about an old lady we are not seeing behaving badly on tv. Shane/Courtney who was my winner is slipping thanks to Andrew's influence.

As to Rachel she's been on Ann's back from the moment she went in and she has bitching to anyone who will listen.