Grown men sexually mocking a 70 year old woman

[poppsywoppsy]

I thought their refences towards Ann and sexual practices that she may or may not have happen in the past was as low as they could go.

Did Dapper think it was funny? Genuwine creasing himself with laughing over it.

Dapper and Genuwine are crass individuals living up to their past reputations as disgusting and lewd.

When Ann sees this, how is she going to feel? She doesn't deserve this at all.

[Alf]

She'll survive.

[smudgie]

Crossed the line for me.
It's one thing if you don't feel you need to respect someone but it's another to show such crude disrespect to a 70 year old virgin.
Disgusting:fist:

[Jamie89]

I don't think she'll care tbh, I think they'll be the ones who'll be embarrassed watching it back :laugh: Daniel should be thanking Ann, he's safe because of her AND she took a bullet taking control of the replace nomination. She deserves his respect for that, not just for being a 70 yr old woman.

[armand.kay]

Can’t say I cared

[rionablue]

I thought their refences towards Ann and sexual practices that she may or may not have happen in the past was as low as they could go.

Did Dapper think it was funny? Genuwine creasing himself with laughing over it.

Dapper and Genuwine are crass individuals living up to their past reputations as disgusting and lewd.

When Ann sees this, how is she going to feel? She doesn't deserve this at all.

It was UTTERLY disgusting and I am not a prude. I HATE Daniel I wish he was still up and the others were AWFUL cracking up laughing at the disgusting stuff he was spouting. Sickening

[Nancy.]

I thought their refences towards Ann and sexual practices that she may or may not have happen in the past was as low as they could go.

Did Dapper think it was funny? Genuwine creasing himself with laughing over it.

Dapper and Genuwine are crass individuals living up to their past reputations as disgusting and lewd.

When Ann sees this, how is she going to feel? She doesn't deserve this at all.

Oh, I think Ann's heard a lot worse than this - and from more intelligent people in the past. She's got thick rhinoceros skin, so I doubt she'll give a flying fig, tbh. lol

[poppsywoppsy]

Oh, I think Ann's heard a lot worse than this - and from more intelligent people in the past. She's got thick rhinoceros skin, so I doubt she'll give a flying fig, tbh. lol

It must hurt her as a woman though. She may take on all comers politically but this was very crude and personal.

Would Dapper like his Nan discussed in this way by a crude comedian for cheap laughs in front of millions of viewers.

This after Ann agreed to his immunity. Shows this man is surely the dregs.

[Cherry Christmas]

Daniel is disgusting he is obviously showing a different persona to Ann, horrible

[jaxie]

Whether Ann has rhino skin or not isn't really the point. It was disrespectful towards an elderly woman who'd done Daniel quite a few favours in the task. 0 respect for either man.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

And this twat is safe :fist:

[Garfie]

I don't think she'll care tbh, I think they'll be the ones who'll be embarrassed watching it back :laugh: Daniel should be thanking Ann, he's safe because of her AND she took a bullet taking control of the replace nomination. She deserves his respect for that, not just for being a 70 yr old woman.

I actually like Daniel but you are spot on here. He let himself down badly with his vulgar comments at a moment when she deserved his loyalty and support.

[Lister of Smeg]

I might be in the minority but up until tonight I actually liked Daniel but after he went in on Ann tonight I'm off about the only one of that small group I have time for is Jonny.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I might be in the minority but up until tonight I actually liked Daniel but after he went in on Ann tonight I'm off about the only one of that small group I have time for is Jonny.

Johnny is OK, but Daniel makes me feel queasy.

[pontyboi]

I thought it was hilarious as did every single other person in the living room when Daniel made the joke.

A lot of prudish comments on this forum tonight when this is very tame for cbb imo tonight's episode was the perfect mix of laughter, relationships and extreme tension.

Hope it stays like this after tonight's task the dynamics have truly changed for the better.

All we need now is to get jon and Maggie out and the next few weeks could be amazing.

[Parmy]

I nearly wet myself.

[Ashsleigh]

She'll survive.

This.

[joeysteele]

I don't think she'll care tbh, I think they'll be the ones who'll be embarrassed watching it back :laugh: Daniel should be thanking Ann, he's safe because of her AND she took a bullet taking control of the replace nomination. She deserves his respect for that, not just for being a 70 yr old woman.

Spot on Jamie really well put.
I've nothing to add to all you say.

[poppsywoppsy]

I thought it was hilarious as did every single other person in the living room when Daniel made the joke.

A lot of prudish comments on this forum tonight when this is very tame for cbb imo tonight's episode was the perfect mix of laughter, relationships and extreme tension.

Hope it stays like this after tonight's task the dynamics have truly changed for the better.

All we need now is to get jon and Maggie out and the next few weeks could be amazing.

Hardly fair though was it?

Ann had a lot to do with the change in the group dynamics change for the better only to be sexually ridiculed by these two oafs.

I am all for humour, but mocking an old lady for a cheap laugh over her imagined sexual behaviour is not funny or warranted.

If it was your Gran?

[Jase.]

Haven't watched yet. What happened?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Haven't watched yet. What happened?
Daniel being vile as usual :skull:

[Parmy]

Haven't watched yet. What happened?

Daniel delivered a perfectly timed of the cuff comment.

[Cherry Christmas]

Haven't watched yet. What happened?

He and Ann won the task, Ann saved Danuel, then nominated Maggie and absolved Daniel of any involvement in the decision, then later he and G were mocking Ann sexually

[Jase.]

He and Ann won the task, Ann saved Danuel, then nominated Maggie and absolved Daniel of any involvement in the decision, then later he and G were mocking Ann sexually

Wouldn't expect anything less from those revolting LADS.

[Garfie]

I thought it was hilarious as did every single other person in the living room when Daniel made the joke.

A lot of prudish comments on this forum tonight when this is very tame for cbb imo tonight's episode was the perfect mix of laughter, relationships and extreme tension.

Hope it stays like this after tonight's task the dynamics have truly changed for the better.

All we need now is to get jon and Maggie out and the next few weeks could be amazing.

I totally agree with your summing up of tonight's episode. I thought it was excellent and am looking forward to seeing the change in the dynamics.

Ann has shaken up the whole house and was brilliant.

[Robodog]

I'm a big fan of Ann 100%

But i also thought it was fine for Dan to make that joke tonight.

It's the kind of naughty joke you hear on BB and on BOTS all the time.

Dirty jokes make the world go round. Much better to be free to make them than to live in fear of censorship all the time.

While Ann herself would of course find it crude and vulgar etc, she would NEVER dream of taking away people's rights to make crude jokes.

Defending freedom of speech means defending people's right to be offensive, even when it disgusts and offends you. That's the game.

"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."
Salman Rushdie

[pontyboi]

Hardly fair though was it?

Ann had a lot to do with the change in the group dynamics change for the better only to be sexually ridiculed by these two oafs.

I am all for humour, but mocking an old lady for a cheap laugh over her imagined sexual behaviour is not funny or warranted.

If it was your Gran?

It's not about being "fair" though is it? this isn't celebrity mastermind it's cbb.

My gran would laugh tbh because it was clearly a joke.

I thought it was hilarious as did the rest of the housemates in the room as previously said.

[Christmas Lights]

And this twat is safe :fist:

Ann saved Daniel ? To put Maggie up? What a hot mess :bored: . Daniel doesn't deserve to be saved from eviction. I'm glad Andrew is still up ,not that it makes a difference with his huge fanbase.

[poppsywoppsy]

It's not about being "fair" though is it? this isn't celebrity mastermind it's cbb.

My gran would laugh tbh because it was clearly a joke.

I thought it was hilarious as did the rest of the housemates in the room as previously said.

Yes the two twats and Ashley who would laugh at anything Genuwine found funny. Do you honestly think Ashley would have found it funny if it was directed at her?

As you can read, there are many who take the opposite view to yours and your nans, it wasn't necessary or decent.

[poppsywoppsy]

I'm a big fan of Ann 100%

But i also thought it was fine for Dan to make that joke tonight.

It's the kind of naughty joke you hear on BB and on BOTS all the time.

Dirty jokes make the world go round. Much better to be free to make them than to live in fear of censorship all the time.

While Ann herself would of course find it crude and vulgar etc, she would NEVER dream of taking away people's rights to make crude jokes.

Defending freedom of speech means defending people's right to be offensive, even when it disgusts and offends you. That's the game.

"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."
Salman Rushdie


If the dirty joke was general about others, then your point is correct.

But it wasn't, it was personal and aimed to humiliate Ann in front of two idiots and millions of viewers.

There is a difference.

[hazyjo]

Am I the only one who didn't take offence :hehe: It was just warped humour. I am sure Daniel will regret opening his mouth, but he just has that humour where your mouth works quicker than your brain and even though it's funny with your mates, maybe X-million watching might not find it funny.

[Gusto Brunt]

Ann has to stay and win this.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

lol

she can take it

its what men joke about when they get together

Ann knows this and would not give two hoots

[poppsywoppsy]

You have seen Ann's response to Andrews attempt to draw her into waxing his backside which she did not appreciate because she said it was aimed to embarrass and humiliate her.

Therefore, it is more likely that she would feel even stronger against this slur.

Because it may not offend someone else does not mean it would not offend her.

If you look up the definition of banter, it means playful teasing between two people. This was a sleazy put down when one party was not present which was meant to humiliate. This towards an elderly lady who has standards which matter to her.

You may not agree with her politics but she reached a place in the government of this land something far greater than this foul mouth with his sewer so called jokes which demean women.

These are no snowflakes but strong women saying if you demean women with jokes like these, you face consequences. I hope they chuck him out, see how funny he finds that.

[Kazanne]

It's not about being "fair" though is it? this isn't celebrity mastermind it's cbb.

My gran would laugh tbh because it was clearly a joke.

I thought it was hilarious as did the rest of the housemates in the room as previously said.

Well of course the others found it funny as it wasn't aimed at them,plus they are crass to begin with,if it involves talking about sex etc they are all having fun, get some decent convos going on and they don't want to know,pack of idiots

[Livia]

It seems that the general consensus floats between "don't care" and "she can take it". Let's turn it round and imagine they were talking about India... or Courtney... God forbid anyone should laugh at them. But Ann's fair game.

Ridiculous double standards.

[bots]

It seems that the general consensus floats between "don't care" and "she can take it". Let's turn it round and imagine they were talking about India... or Courtney... God forbid anyone should laugh at them. But Ann's fair game.

Ridiculous double standards.

very good point. The thing that also marks daniel down is that he knows this is being filmed so it just can't be described as banter, because guys just dont do banter in that way. He knows Ann will either see it or be told about it

[Livia]

very good point. The thing that also marks daniel down is that he knows this is being filmed so it just can't be described as banter, because guys just dont do banter in that way. He knows Ann will either see it or be told about it

I've worked with men a lot... and I have more male friends than female. This is not typical of male behaviour, I know... not real men. And it saddens me when people are condoning it.

On the first night I kind of took to Daniel. He had a lot to say about how he had made a mistake and regretted it etc. etc. It didn't take him long to show the world he actually is an arsehole completely beyond redemption.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I've worked with men a lot... and I have more male friends than female. This is not typical of male behaviour, I know... not real men. And it saddens me when people are condoning it.

On the first night I kind of took to Daniel. He had a lot to say about how he had made a mistake and regretted it etc. etc. It didn't take him long to show the world he actually is an arsehole completely beyond redemption.

Really the mask didn't even make it through night 1 :laugh:

[Livia]

Really the mask didn't even make it through night 1 :laugh:

No! LOL... and he had me thinking he was in earnest... for about twenty minutes.

[Cherry Christmas]

It seems that the general consensus floats between "don't care" and "she can take it". Let's turn it round and imagine they were talking about India... or Courtney... God forbid anyone should laugh at them. But Ann's fair game.

Ridiculous double standards.

Good point she is an old white woman so fair game for any old rubbish to be spouted about her

[poppsywoppsy]

It seems that the general consensus floats between "don't care" and "she can take it". Let's turn it round and imagine they were talking about India... or Courtney... God forbid anyone should laugh at them. But Ann's fair game.

Ridiculous double standards.

Having seen the fall out today in the social media and press, it seems that the consensus has now turned into outrage towards Daniel.

There are many decent people who don't feel the need to speak up unless there is something needed to be said and it is what they are now doing.

All Daniel wants is to shock and be known for his notoriety, whatever he says to the difference. All he wants, as do the other nonentities in there is to push boundaries to make him get noticed and if an elderly 70 year old women gets hurt then she is collateral damage.

Ann is a human being who values her standards, morals and religion, but she still is a woman with feelings which can be hurt by these sick remarks about her past.

[HBB1508]

Whether Ann has rhino skin or not isn't really the point. It was disrespectful towards an elderly woman who'd done Daniel quite a few favours in the task. 0 respect for either man.

Totally agree it's just a shame they chose to save Dopey Dapper and not Ann :fist:

[Paula D]

I'd love to see him thrown out by BB for that remark. I absolutely hate the thoughts of how Ann is going to feel when she sees that.

[bots]

I'd love to see him thrown out by BB for that remark. I absolutely hate the thoughts of how Ann is going to feel when she sees that.

Good comedy shouldn't come from ridiculing someone. Particularly if that someone has just saved your bacon. His comments were very hurtful, no matter how thick skinned Ann may be

[Paula D]

Good comedy shouldn't come from ridiculing someone. Particularly if that someone has just saved your bacon. His comments were very hurtful, no matter how thick skinned Ann may be

Not only did she save him, it was down to her that they won the task too.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Good comedy shouldn't come from ridiculing someone. Particularly if that someone has just saved your bacon. His comments were very hurtful, no matter how thick skinned Ann may be

Yeah it was really disrespectful to an elderly lady who he clearly knows would be disgusted if she heard

[JerseyWins]

She'll survive.
A lot of prudish comments on this forum tonight when this is very tame for cbb imo tonight's episode was the perfect mix of laughter, relationships and extreme tension.
This :joker:

I'm currently watching CBB17 which is already filled with moments & comments that are 100x worse than this (which are also funny tbh lol :hehe:) but people on this forum can find that funny but take a little sexual joke as disgusting. People have a pre-conceived view on Daniel and anything and everything will tick most people here off when it's HIM doing it. All eyes on him. :eyes:

Daniel delivered a perfectly timed of the cuff comment.
:joker: Love that response to what happened.

[JerseyWins]

Yeah it was really disrespectful to an elderly lady who he clearly knows would be disgusted if she heard
To be fair it was disrespectful, it's not like it was a clean joke I'll say that, but in the end it is still just an off-the-cuff joke that he didn't mean seriously or hurtfully and people shouldn't take so seriously & personally. It's really not that bad at all and Ann wouldn't care as long as she's not around to hear it / see it, it's what she's said herself. Plus Daniel felt bad about it afterwards but he's a joker and jokes just fly out of his mouth without a filter. Jokers gonna joke. :joker:

[Withano]

Daniel made a career doing that, I wasnt expecting anything less

[Tinsel Toes]

I thought their refences towards Ann and sexual practices that she may or may not have happen in the past was as low as they could go.

Did Dapper think it was funny? Genuwine creasing himself with laughing over it.

Dapper and Genuwine are crass individuals living up to their past reputations as disgusting and lewd.

When Ann sees this, how is she going to feel? She doesn't deserve this at all.

I really don't think she''ll watch any of it, she'll leave and get on with her life, she feels she has nothing to prove and inane comments are water off a ducks back.

[Paula D]

To be fair it was disrespectful, it's not like it was a clean joke I'll say that, but in the end it is still just an off-the-cuff joke that he didn't mean seriously or hurtfully and people shouldn't take so seriously & personally. It's really not that bad at all and Ann wouldn't care as long as she's not around to hear it / see it, it's what she's said herself. Plus Daniel felt bad about it afterwards but he's a joker and jokes just fly out of his mouth without a filter. Jokers gonna joke. :joker:When did he say he felt bad about it?

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[poppsywoppsy]

I really don't think she''ll watch any of it, she'll leave and get on with her life, she feels she has nothing to prove and inane comments are water off a ducks back.

Of course she will either watch it or be told about it. It is out there and has been picked up in the press.

Inane remarks regarding politics or currents affairs are how you describe but a exceedingly personal sexual innuendo about a religious single lady of 70 years of age is a very different case.

[In the Drunk Tank]

She'll probably just roll her eyes and have forgotten about it the next day, it's not the end of the world

[Northern Monkey]

I’m old enough to remember Chubby Brown and Bernard Manning.

Dippy is a Boy Scout in comparison

[poppsywoppsy]

She'll probably just roll her eyes and have forgotten about it the next day, it's not the end of the world

You are not thinking it through from Anne's perspective. It might not matter to you or someone in different circumstances or religious leanings.

Ann is an elderly woman who does not invite her personal space invaded or indeed her personal life intruded upon. Therefore unwarranted personal sexual references would be abhorrent to her.

[In the Drunk Tank]

You are not thinking it through from Anne's perspective. It might not matter to you or someone in different circumstances or religious leanings.

Ann is an elderly woman who does not invite her personal space invaded or indeed her personal life intruded upon. Therefore unwarranted personal sexual references would be abhorrent to her.

Maybe but she's pretty tough and has spent her life in a role where she has been subjected to serious criticism and often abuse - she will have heard much worse. I imagine that she would be offended by it but also that she won't dwell on it for more than a couple of minutes at most

[Paula D]

Maybe but she's pretty tough and has spent her life in a role where she has been subjected to serious criticism and often abuse - she will have heard much worse. I imagine that she would be offended by it but also that she won't dwell on it for more than a couple of minutes at mostI think you'll find she hasn't heard the likes of that filth in the house of commons.

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[poppsywoppsy]

Maybe but she's pretty tough and has spent her life in a role where she has been subjected to serious criticism and often abuse - she will have heard much worse. I imagine that she would be offended by it but also that she won't dwell on it for more than a couple of minutes at most

She wouldn't have been subjected to the same sort of sexual abuse in her work role or she could have taken it further.

Serious criticism about her political career, Yes, she would have not bothered about, sexual matters about her private life are a very different matter

[In the Drunk Tank]

I think you'll find she hasn't heard the likes of that filth in the house of commons.

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I wasn't talking about the House of Commons

[Friedmanism]

Was a side-splitting comment, I was rolling around like Genuwine.

You can bet your bottom dollar that the vast majority of people who took offence are the type of people who sensationalise every word that comes out of the housemate's mouths to an absurd extremity. It was a frivolous joke that carried no malice whatsoever folks, don't get your knickers in a twist.

[bots]

Was a side-splitting comment, I was rolling around like Genuwine.

You can bet your bottom dollar that the vast majority of people who took offence are the type of people who sensationalise every word that comes out of the housemate's mouths to an absurd extremity. It was a frivolous joke that carried no malice whatsoever folks, don't get your knickers in a twist.

ok daniel

[poppsywoppsy]

Was a side-splitting comment, I was rolling around like Genuwine.

You can bet your bottom dollar that the vast majority of people who took offence are the type of people who sensationalise every word that comes out of the housemate's mouths to an absurd extremity. It was a frivolous joke that carried no malice whatsoever folks, don't get your knickers in a twist.

I think the description Junior Member after your name explains this post.

[Friedmanism]

I think the description Junior Member after your name explains this post.

Because the length of someone's tenure on this forum compromises the validity of what was actually said? Not sold on that logic...

[poppsywoppsy]

Because the length of someone's tenure on this forum compromises the validity of what was actually said? Not sold on that logic...

You missed my point.......totally

[waterhog]

I thought their refences towards Ann and sexual practices that she may or may not have happen in the past was as low as they could go.

Did Dapper think it was funny? Genuwine creasing himself with laughing over it.

Dapper and Genuwine are crass individuals living up to their past reputations as disgusting and lewd.

When Ann sees this, how is she going to feel? She doesn't deserve this at all.


well said poppy - love the ann but she is made of good stuff and will survive. nice to see others supporting her.

[mr rochester]

Dappy Nappy’s comments are precisely like him ...CHEAP.

[Livia]

Was a side-splitting comment, I was rolling around like Genuwine.

You can bet your bottom dollar that the vast majority of people who took offence are the type of people who sensationalise every word that comes out of the housemate's mouths to an absurd extremity. It was a frivolous joke that carried no malice whatsoever folks, don't get your knickers in a twist.

That's quite a sweeping generalisation.

It's like me saying that all the boys sticking up for him have quite a juvenile sense of humour.

[Friedmanism]

You missed my point.......totally

Must have been so subtle and intricate that it went over my head, given you are a Senior Member....

That's quite a sweeping generalisation.

It's like me saying that all the boys sticking up for him have quite a juvenile sense of humour.

Is it sexist of you to pigeonhole a gender like that :joker:?

[poppsywoppsy]

Must have been so subtle and intricate that it went over my head, given you are a Senior Member....



Is it sexist of you to pigeonhole a gender like that :joker:?

Now you are getting closer, well done, sorry it took you so long.

[Parmy]

That's quite a sweeping generalisation.

It's like me saying that all the boys sticking up for him have quite a juvenile sense of humour.

:hee::joker:

[Friedmanism]

Now you are getting closer, well done, sorry it took you so long.

But no one outside of Livia mentioned gender...? Maybe that's where you ought to focus your attention :joker:?