Just getting a little fed up with his passive aggressive "talks"

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Ok son you are not fecking oprah

You also dont have the final word on being gay or sexuality or anything else for that matter. I mean you cant even be truthful that you lust after Andrew instead you pretend he is your "special straight friend"


Not everyone wants a sit down interview everytime you get triggered..

:idc:


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/12/17/415DC8B800000578-4596844-image-m-3_1497284371359.jpg

[Christmas Lights]

Ok son you are not fecking oprah

You also dont have the final word on being gay or sexuality or anything else for that matter. I mean you cant even be truthful that you lust after Andrew instead you pretend he is your "special straight friend"


Not everyone wants a sit down interview everytime you get triggered..

:idc:


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/12/17/415DC8B800000578-4596844-image-m-3_1497284371359.jpg

I thought you liked him . He's a useless hm and I've missed 4 days as Andrew and him have ruined it :bored: .

And it's obvious Shane J is going to win :sleep: . He's worse than passive aggressive, it's like he's being insincere And he's soo pathetic , he's literally Andrew's bitch and I was bored of it and I didn't need to hear the sexual innuendos or see their crap showmance.

Andrew needs to go , we'll never see what Shane J behaviour will be like without him as they're both zooming to the final.

[bots]

i dont think shane j is in the running to be a winner now. He was ok for about a week, then it all went downhill

[Underscore]

Unnecessary to post a photo of him :shrug:

[bots]

Unnecessary to post a photo of him :shrug:

are you a mod? do you decide on appropriate content?

[Christmas Lights]

i dont think shane j is in the running to be a winner now. He was ok for about a week, then it all went downhill

Dude still has a huge following and has been first in every poll :notimpressed: .
Only Ann could beat him .Nobody else has a chance.

No matter what Shane J does he still has loads of fans.
And everyone is lapping up his stupid stalkermance/ showmance with Andrew :yuk: .

[Underscore]

are you a mod? do you decide on appropriate content?

No, but I can have my opinion as you guys keep on pointing out everywhere :hmph:

[Parmy]

He is a wanker.

[chuff me dizzy]

He has to dress up to appear interesting, he thinks he's the spokesman for all LGBT, he's an annoying as hell ,why does he have to dress up for eviction nights ? and you only have to look in his eyes to see he's passive aggresive

[Underscore]

why does he have to dress up for eviction nights ?

maybe because he wants to?

like most people make the effort to dress up on eviction nights?

[chuff me dizzy]

maybe because he wants to?

like most people make the effort to dress up on eviction nights?

Put some jeans and a jumper on then ,no need for the full job :bored:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Unnecessary to post a photo of him :shrug:

I am pretty sure it wont steal his soul?

[Underscore]

Put some jeans and a jumper on then ,no need for the full job :bored:

He should be able to dress up how he wants to.

Courtney Acts is part of his persona and for him dressing up is becoming Courtney. I don't see the problem you have with that.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

He should be able to dress up how he wants to.

Courtney Acts is part of his persona and for him dressing up is becoming Courtney. I don't see the problem you have with that.

I think it was fine and fun to begin with but now its a little odd and attention seeking. Paul O'Grady grew out of Lily Savage so I guess he will grow out of this phase as well?

[Underscore]

I think it was fine and fun to begin with but now its a little odd and attention seeking. Paul O'Grady grew out of Lily Savage so I guess he will grow out of this phase as well?

Drag is his job and career :shrug:

[Underscore]

And most people know him as a drag queen

[bots]

I think it was fine and fun to begin with but now its a little odd and attention seeking. Paul O'Grady grew out of Lily Savage so I guess he will grow out of this phase as well?

i was told that he doesn't do it for fun, but i have the same opinion as you. As a viewer its funny/unusual once or twice after that its boring. Also, the staged skirt coming off was clearly done for a laugh :idc:

[chuff me dizzy]

I think it was fine and fun to begin with but now its a little odd and attention seeking. Paul O'Grady grew out of Lily Savage so I guess he will grow out of this phase as well?

Exactly LT, its attention seeking for the sake of it

[Christmas Lights]

He has to dress up to appear interesting, he thinks he's the spokesman for all LGBT, he's an annoying as hell ,why does he have to dress up for eviction nights ? and you only have to look in his eyes to see he's passive aggresive

He dresses up to (how can I put this without swearing) to F with Andrew's tiny pea crave man brain and because he actually wants to F Andrew , it wouldn't surprise me if they haven't already done something when they sneaked off to the toilet :yuk: :bored: .

Shane J is desperate and embarrassing ,like I've said stick another guy in the house who's actually single and fairly good-looking with a fit body and Shane J will be all over him like a rash it's pathetic,I actually wanted another guy to go in to prove a point that Shane J is just a horny idiot with no substance which is probably why him and Andrew are inseparable .
:facepalm: .

He brings nothing to BB,huge disappointment. All he does is sit and glare at people and he inputs empty rubbish. He's 1 dimensional AF . He just drools over Andrew .
Him & Andrew are some of the worst choices this year for CBB .

[chuff me dizzy]

He dresses up to (how can I put this without swearing) to F with Andrew's tiny pea crave man brain and because he actually wants to F Andrew , it wouldn't surprise me if they haven't already done something when they sneaked off to the toilet :yuk: :bored: .

Shane J is desperate and embarrassing ,like I've said stick another guy in the house who's actually single and fairly good-looking with a fit body and Shane J will be all over him like a rash it's pathetic,I actually wanted another guy to go in to prove a point that Shane J is just a horny idiot with no substance which is probably why him and Andrew are inseparable .
:facepalm: .

He brings nothing to BB,huge disappointment. All he does is sit and glare at people and he inputs empty rubbish. He's 1 dimensional AF . He just drools over Andrew .
Him & Andrew are some of the worst choices this year for CBB .

:clap1: He knows ELThicko Andrew fancies him when he's Courtney and as you say his plan is to F him at every angle he can manage

[Christmas Lights]

:clap1: He knows ELThicko Andrew fancies him when he's Courtney and as you say his plan is to F him at every angle he can manage

That's the main reason why he does it,and because he craves attention :bored: .

I wonder if when he wins if he'll stick around in the UK for a bit or go back to America to brag :sleep: .

As he didn't win on rupaul's drag ,so maybe he's desperate to win CBB .

[Stacyfrancisyasgal]

I’m gonna need you to sit your ass down.


First of all, ‘you are not Oprah’ an illogical statement that makes little to no sense that clearly indicates you’re very naive.

‘ you can’t be truthful that you lust after Andrew’
‘Not everyone wants a sit down interview every time you get triggered’


Ok here’s where you are about to stop, Unless you are Courtney/Shane do not assume anything based off of a 1 hour TV show so to say she’s not being truthful is incorrect, she’s even said she likes Andrew but she understands he’s straight. So you are WRONG.



Regards the interview, you are a part of the problem Courtney/Shane needs to have these talks or ‘interviews’ to educate. we saw with John that he even said that he was brought up being taught to be homophobic, but with Courtney being there to educate she can change peoples mind set and the way they think.

The LGBTQ community still faces issues every day. So Courtney being in there she is doing a massive thing for everyone apart of the community with having debates, educating not only those in the house but the viewers.

If she just went in there and started shouting and ranting she would be out first because that’s exactly what India did.

So don’t you dare say that no one wants to see these ‘interviews everytime she gets triggered’. They are done to educate and not be spiteful. Courtney has never said anything offensive, rude or pushy but instead has tried her best to actually understand people like Ann and Johns point of view, learn from it.



Ok I’m over with this. delete your account.



Ok son you are not fecking oprah
I
You also dont have the final word on being gay or sexuality or anything else for that matter. I mean you cant even be truthful that you lust after Andrew instead you pretend he is your "special straight friend"


Not everyone wants a sit down interview everytime you get triggered..

:idc:


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/12/17/415DC8B800000578-4596844-image-m-3_1497284371359.jpg

[chuff me dizzy]

That's the main reason why he does it,and because he craves attention :bored: .

I wonder if when he wins if he'll stick around in the UK for a bit or go back to America to brag :sleep: .

As he didn't win on rupaul's drag ,so maybe he's desperate to win CBB .

And silly bollox Andrew walking holding his hand the other night, because in his small brain he thinks Shane is a woman when in drag :umm2:

[Underscore]

I’m gonna need you to sit your ass down.


First of all, ‘you are not Oprah’ an illogical statement that makes little to no sense that clearly indicates you’re very naive.

‘ you can’t be truthful that you lust after Andrew’
‘Not everyone wants a sit down interview every time you get triggered’


Ok here’s where you are about to stop, Unless you are Courtney/Shane do not assume anything based off of a 1 hour TV show so to say she’s not being truthful is incorrect, she’s even said she likes Andrew but she understands he’s straight. So you are WRONG.



Regards the interview, you are a part of the problem Courtney/Shane needs to have these talks or ‘interviews’ to educate. we saw with John that he even said that he was brought up being taught to be homophobic, but with Courtney being there to educate she can change peoples mind set and the way they think.

The LGBTQ community still faces issues every day. So Courtney being in there she is doing a massive thing for everyone apart of the community with having debates, educating not only those in the house but the viewers.

If she just went in there and started shouting and ranting she would be out first because that’s exactly what India did.

So don’t you dare say that no one wants to see these ‘interviews everytime she gets triggered’. They are done to educate and not be spiteful. Courtney has never said anything offensive, rude or pushy but instead has tried her best to actually understand people like Ann and Johns point of view, learn from it.



Ok I’m over with this. delete your account.

schooled

:clap2::hehe:

[Stacyfrancisyasgal]

He’s one of the most successful drag queens in the world. Drag is his career and brand, he’s basically selling his drag persona for bookings. He’s done drag for years, made millions, lives in LA, travels the world for drag shows.


Hun I don’t think he’ll grow out of it, lily savage doesn’t even come close.


I think it was fine and fun to begin with but now its a little odd and attention seeking. Paul O'Grady grew out of Lily Savage so I guess he will grow out of this phase as well?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

He’s one of the most successful drag queens in the world. Drag is his career and brand, he’s basically selling his drag persona for bookings. He’s done drag for years, made millions, lives in LA, travels the world for drag shows.


Hun I don’t think he’ll grow out of it, lily savage doesn’t even come close.


:laugh2:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Im getting a https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article4737649.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Michelle-Visage.jpg more and more from him


that is not good

[Christmas Lights]

And silly bollox Andrew walking holding his hand the other night, because in his small brain he thinks Shane is a woman when in drag :umm2:

I've honestly stopped watching,I check clips on YT and I read Twitter and BB news on here. But I can't sit through another full HL show with those daft bitches :facepalm: :bored: .

It's cringe telly it's the worst. Andrew acts stupid and treats Courtney like a real woman,but I still think it's part of his game plan with the sickly tiresome showmance . And it's working for the idiot as he's getting to the final with Shane J . I can't see Andrew getting evicted any time soon.

[Marsh.]

Also assuming he is attracted to Andrew because he's gay is... problematic to say the least.

[Christmas Lights]

Also assuming he is attracted to Andrew because he's gay is... problematic to say the least.

I don't have to like them or their low budget stupid showmance :sleep: .

[Marsh.]

I don't have to like them or their low budget stupid showmance [emoji99] .
So? That has nothing to do with what I said.

[jaxie]

Shane/Courtney was my absolute fav at the beginning. Unfortunately the Andrew effect has completely ruined how I felt about him as a housemate. And I agree that his interviewing, which seemed mature and engaging at first is now getting a little bit too much and OTT.

[Alf]

I’m gonna need you to sit your ass down.


First of all, ‘you are not Oprah’ an illogical statement that makes little to no sense that clearly indicates you’re very naive.

‘ you can’t be truthful that you lust after Andrew’
‘Not everyone wants a sit down interview every time you get triggered’


Ok here’s where you are about to stop, Unless you are Courtney/Shane do not assume anything based off of a 1 hour TV show so to say she’s not being truthful is incorrect, she’s even said she likes Andrew but she understands he’s straight. So you are WRONG.



Regards the interview, you are a part of the problem Courtney/Shane needs to have these talks or ‘interviews’ to educate. we saw with John that he even said that he was brought up being taught to be homophobic, but with Courtney being there to educate she can change peoples mind set and the way they think.

The LGBTQ community still faces issues every day. So Courtney being in there she is doing a massive thing for everyone apart of the community with having debates, educating not only those in the house but the viewers.

If she just went in there and started shouting and ranting she would be out first because that’s exactly what India did.

So don’t you dare say that no one wants to see these ‘interviews everytime she gets triggered’. They are done to educate and not be spiteful. Courtney has never said anything offensive, rude or pushy but instead has tried her best to actually understand people like Ann and Johns point of view, learn from it.



Ok I’m over with this. delete your account.It's a man in a dress. Meat and two veg the lot. Stand up pisser.

[Alf]

I’m gonna need you to sit your ass down.


First of all, ‘you are not Oprah’ an illogical statement that makes little to no sense that clearly indicates you’re very naive.

‘ you can’t be truthful that you lust after Andrew’
‘Not everyone wants a sit down interview every time you get triggered’


Ok here’s where you are about to stop, Unless you are Courtney/Shane do not assume anything based off of a 1 hour TV show so to say she’s not being truthful is incorrect, she’s even said she likes Andrew but she understands he’s straight. So you are WRONG.



Regards the interview, you are a part of the problem Courtney/Shane needs to have these talks or ‘interviews’ to educate. we saw with John that he even said that he was brought up being taught to be homophobic, but with Courtney being there to educate she can change peoples mind set and the way they think.

The LGBTQ community still faces issues every day. So Courtney being in there she is doing a massive thing for everyone apart of the community with having debates, educating not only those in the house but the viewers.

If she just went in there and started shouting and ranting she would be out first because that’s exactly what India did.

So don’t you dare say that no one wants to see these ‘interviews everytime she gets triggered’. They are done to educate and not be spiteful. Courtney has never said anything offensive, rude or pushy but instead has tried her best to actually understand people like Ann and Johns point of view, learn from it.



Ok I’m over with this. delete your account.You're right there, he's changed your mind set to believing he's a she.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

And surely all the house calling shane she is actually insulting to people like India

maybe India was right after all?

[Alf]

I’m gonna need you to sit your ass down.


First of all, ‘you are not Oprah’ an illogical statement that makes little to no sense that clearly indicates you’re very naive.

‘ you can’t be truthful that you lust after Andrew’
‘Not everyone wants a sit down interview every time you get triggered’


Ok here’s where you are about to stop, Unless you are Courtney/Shane do not assume anything based off of a 1 hour TV show so to say she’s not being truthful is incorrect, she’s even said she likes Andrew but she understands he’s straight. So you are WRONG.



Regards the interview, you are a part of the problem Courtney/Shane needs to have these talks or ‘interviews’ to educate. we saw with John that he even said that he was brought up being taught to be homophobic, but with Courtney being there to educate she can change peoples mind set and the way they think.

The LGBTQ community still faces issues every day. So Courtney being in there she is doing a massive thing for everyone apart of the community with having debates, educating not only those in the house but the viewers.

If she just went in there and started shouting and ranting she would be out first because that’s exactly what India did.

So don’t you dare say that no one wants to see these ‘interviews everytime she gets triggered’. They are done to educate and not be spiteful. Courtney has never said anything offensive, rude or pushy but instead has tried her best to actually understand people like Ann and Johns point of view, learn from it.



Ok I’m over with this. delete your account.Not in Britain, unless you've got evidence to prove me wrong. We're 22 days into 2018, show me the evidence to back up your claim that LGBTQ face issues every day, just show me 1 issue for each day of the year so far.

[poppsywoppsy]

Shane J has become morose, introverted and just plain miserable.

He has lost his joy and good humour. He lost his appeal for me on day 1 with his horrible flashing of his privates, or lack of them, that picture was revolting.

Then he came across better with his performances as Courtney.

Then the Andrew showmance was nothing more than that.

Since then, because he has not been the centre of the attention he desires, he has started to sulk. His misery is shown on his face and if he is the winner, I won't be watching the final moments. He doesn't deserve it.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

He was right about Ginuwine. Shame the others can't see through him.

[Stacyfrancisyasgal]

Ever heard of a thing called Bullying? You’re clearly not apart of the LGBTQ community or an ally if you dismiss the fact that issues do occur frequently, just because you don’t see it in the media doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.


I myself am apart of the community, have friends and family who are also aswell and it does happen everyday. I really can’t believe I’m explaining this. YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM

Not in Britain, unless you've got evidence to prove me wrong. We're 22 days into 2018, show me the evidence to back up your claim that LGBTQ face issues every day, just show me 1 issue for each day of the year so far.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I still like him but not as much as the first week

[Cal.]

He has to dress up to appear interesting, he thinks he's the spokesman for all LGBT, he's an annoying as hell ,why does he have to dress up for eviction nights ? and you only have to look in his eyes to see he's passive aggresive

Why do the women put frocks on for eviction nights? Why do men wear suits? Why does Shane J become Courtney? Because they all want to look nice for a what is a special occasion really.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Andrew knows that Courtney is a man. But Shane looks amazing when he's in drag. Absolutely stunning.

[Alf]

Ever heard of a thing called Bullying? You’re clearly not apart of the LGBTQ community or an ally if you dismiss the fact that issues do occur frequently, just because you don’t see it in the media doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.


I myself am apart of the community, have friends and family who are also aswell and it does happen everyday. I really can’t believe I’m explaining this. YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEMWhy are you bullying me, someone part of the straight community?

[Gusto Brunt]

Shane for Panorama. :D

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Ever heard of a thing called Bullying? You’re clearly not apart of the LGBTQ community or an ally if you dismiss the fact that issues do occur frequently, just because you don’t see it in the media doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.


I myself am apart of the community, have friends and family who are also aswell and it does happen everyday. I really can’t believe I’m explaining this. YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM

so apart from anecdotal "evidence" you have nothing?

[bots]

Why do the women put frocks on for eviction nights? Why do men wear suits? Why does Shane J become Courtney? Because they all want to look nice for a what is a special occasion really.

who can forget Gary Busey in his dressing gown :laugh:

[Ammi]

I still like him but not as much as the first week

..yeah I still like him as well but he’s just not getting the same../as much airtime as he did in the beginning..his airtime was quite positive as well so he was easy to like...I don’t know, I’m probably off the mark but I feel that he (or a drag queen in general..)..was mainly maybe brought into the house as a potential ‘clash and spark’ to India and her stated phobia etc...so then after her eviction, BB just haven’t got that much interest in him anymore...poor Shane being cast aside because he’s lost his main ‘value’...such is the harsh world of reality tv...

[ChristmasNeeve]

..yeah I still like him as well but he’s just not getting the same../as much airtime as he did in the beginning..his airtime was quite positive as well so he was easy to like...I don’t know, I’m probably off the mark but I feel that he (or a drag queen in general..)..was mainly maybe brought into the house as a potential ‘clash and spark’ to India and her stated phobia etc...so then after her eviction, BB just haven’t got that much interest in him anymore...poor Shane being cast aside because he’s lost his main ‘value’...such is the harsh world of reality tv...

Yeah definitely. I am glad they decided to drop the bromance storyline though:laugh:

[smudgie]

Shane has dropped from my top spot, but only because of the constant bitching with Andrew.
I actually like his conversations explaining stuff as I for one admit to being quite ignorant on the subject of drag queens.
I love her dressed as Courtney, she went in as Courtney and I see no reason why she shouldn’t dress up for eviction nights. He has lovely clothes sense as Shane as well.

[chuff me dizzy]

A lot of the time he loads Andrews gun and sits back and observes while Andrew fires his bullets for him,but Andrew is to dim to see Shanes game and last night he had the cheek to call Jonny uneducated !

[Kazanne]

Unnecessary to post a photo of him :shrug:

but you've got a gif of him :shrug: go figure

[Marsh.]

Not in Britain.

And you, the straight guy, are the one to answer that question.

:joker:

[Lilac hills]

Sick of Shane j boring af and patronising and a bit of a twat overall

[Marsh.]

And surely all the house calling shane she is actually insulting to people like India

maybe India was right after all?
India is insulting to herself.

[Alf]

And you, the straight guy, are the one to answer that question.

:joker:Too right I am. I'll answer any question I want and my sexuality wont stop that.

[Robodog]

I’m gonna need you to sit your ass down.

First of all, ‘you are not Oprah’ an illogical statement that makes little to no sense that clearly indicates you’re very naive.


Ok here’s where you are about to stop, Unless you are Courtney/Shane do not assume anything

Regards the interview, you are a part of the problem

So don’t you dare say that no one wants to see these ‘interviews everytime she gets triggered’.

Ok I’m over with this. delete your account.


Just look at the amount of intolerance, and pushy and aggressive statements contained in this post.

And you call others 'part of the problem' !

When it comes to resolving social issues, a major part of 'the problem' is intolerant and aggressive attitudes like this.

It's like a brick wall of angry hatred. Solves nothing. Helps nobody.

YES there are some problems and confusion in the mainstream regarding LGBT issues.
YES dialogue is needed in order that people can understand each other better and society can evolve.

But that dialogue is a two-way thing.
It takes time, and it also requires patience and understanding ON BOTH SIDES.

You have to BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE.

You want respect?. You have to give respect.
You want acceptance and understanding from others? You have to BE accepting and understanding toward others.

You want people to hear YOUR side of the story and not attack you for being different?
Well, then you have to do the same for them, right? And not attack them for being different from you.

You can't make your point against intolerance.... by being intolerant yourself!

"Sit your ass down"
"Delete your account" etc etc

Sound tolerant and progressive to you??

[bots]

Just look at the amount of intolerance, and pushy and aggressive statements contained in this post.

And you call others 'part of the problem' !

When it comes to resolving social issues, a major part of 'the problem' is intolerant and aggressive attitudes like this.

It's like a brick wall of angry hatred. Solves nothing. Helps nobody.

YES there are some problems and confusion in the mainstream regarding LGBT issues.
YES dialogue is needed in order that people can understand each other better and society can evolve.

But that dialogue is a two-way thing.
It takes time, and it also requires patience and understanding ON BOTH SIDES.

You have to BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE.

You want respect?. You have to give respect.
You want acceptance and understanding from others? You have to BE accepting and understanding toward others.

You want people to hear YOUR side of the story and not attack you for being different?
Well, then you have to do the same for them, right? And not attack them for being different from you.

You can't make your point against intolerance.... by being intolerant yourself!

"Sit your ass down"
"Delete your account" etc etc

Sound tolerant and progressive to you??

:clap1::clap2::clap1:

[Marsh.]

Too right I am. I'll answer any question I want and my sexuality wont stop that.
Yes because you're clearly completely up to date on the LGBT community and what goes on. :thumbs:

Kind of like a white guy claiming racism doesn't exist anymore.

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes because you're clearly completely up to date on the LGBT community and what goes on. :thumbs:

Kind of like a white guy claiming racism doesn't exist anymore.

Im sure Alf like myself doesn't give a flying one about the LGBT as they have no part in his life

[Nancy.]

He dresses up to (how can I put this without swearing) to F with Andrew's tiny pea crave man brain and because he actually wants to F Andrew , it wouldn't surprise me if they haven't already done something when they sneaked off to the toilet :yuk: :bored: .

Shane J is desperate and embarrassing ,like I've said stick another guy in the house who's actually single and fairly good-looking with a fit body and Shane J will be all over him like a rash it's pathetic,I actually wanted another guy to go in to prove a point that Shane J is just a horny idiot with no substance which is probably why him and Andrew are inseparable .
:facepalm: .

He brings nothing to BB,huge disappointment. All he does is sit and glare at people and he inputs empty rubbish. He's 1 dimensional AF . He just drools over Andrew .
Him & Andrew are some of the worst choices this year for CBB .
:clap1: Excellent post. He knows Andrew fancies Courtney rotten and is taking advantage of eviction nights (or situations) when Andrew is drunk and horny. The fact that he (or Coutney) said "I'm playing the long game" speaks volumes.

[Alf]

Yes because you're clearly completely up to date on the LGBT community and what goes on. :thumbs:

Kind of like a white guy claiming racism doesn't exist anymore.I think it has a Q on the end, you see, I'm more up to date than you.

[odd sock]

Just look at the amount of intolerance, and pushy and aggressive statements contained in this post.

And you call others 'part of the problem' !

When it comes to resolving social issues, a major part of 'the problem' is intolerant and aggressive attitudes like this.

It's like a brick wall of angry hatred. Solves nothing. Helps nobody.

YES there are some problems and confusion in the mainstream regarding LGBT issues.
YES dialogue is needed in order that people can understand each other better and society can evolve.

But that dialogue is a two-way thing.
It takes time, and it also requires patience and understanding ON BOTH SIDES.

You have to BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE.

You want respect?. You have to give respect.
You want acceptance and understanding from others? You have to BE accepting and understanding toward others.

You want people to hear YOUR side of the story and not attack you for being different?
Well, then you have to do the same for them, right? And not attack them for being different from you.

You can't make your point against intolerance.... by being intolerant yourself!

"Sit your ass down"
"Delete your account" etc etc

Sound tolerant and progressive to you?? Excellent post :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Robodog]

Kind of like a white guy claiming racism doesn't exist anymore.

Yes that would be crazy

Especially since statistics show that in 2016-2017 the biggest rise in hate crime was in fact 'anti white'

[Marsh.]

I think it has a Q on the end, you see, I'm more up to date than you.
Bless :pat:

[Marsh.]

Yes that would be crazy

Especially since statistics show that in 2016-2017 the biggest rise in hate crime was in fact 'anti white'
Biggest rise is not biggest overall.

But look at you getting all straight white male on us.

[Paula D]

Dude still has a huge following and has been first in every poll :notimpressed: .
Only Ann could beat him .Nobody else has a chance.

No matter what Shane J does he still has loads of fans.
And everyone is lapping up his stupid stalkermance/ showmance with Andrew :yuk: .

Ann is actually ahead in the tellymix poll but he is running second. I don't know if it will last if he sticks to Andrews side though.

There wasn't actually as much about them last night thank god.

[Paula D]

No, but I can have my opinion as you guys keep on pointing out everywhere :hmph:

Hang on, you've a picture as your signature????????

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Just look at the amount of intolerance, and pushy and aggressive statements contained in this post.

And you call others 'part of the problem' !

When it comes to resolving social issues, a major part of 'the problem' is intolerant and aggressive attitudes like this.

It's like a brick wall of angry hatred. Solves nothing. Helps nobody.

YES there are some problems and confusion in the mainstream regarding LGBT issues.
YES dialogue is needed in order that people can understand each other better and society can evolve.

But that dialogue is a two-way thing.
It takes time, and it also requires patience and understanding ON BOTH SIDES.

You have to BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE.

You want respect?. You have to give respect.
You want acceptance and understanding from others? You have to BE accepting and understanding toward others.

You want people to hear YOUR side of the story and not attack you for being different?
Well, then you have to do the same for them, right? And not attack them for being different from you.

You can't make your point against intolerance.... by being intolerant yourself!

"Sit your ass down"
"Delete your account" etc etc

Sound tolerant and progressive to you??

:clap2:

[Patricia4]

I never heard of him or she since BB

[Paula D]

I’m gonna need you to sit your ass down.


First of all, ‘you are not Oprah’ an illogical statement that makes little to no sense that clearly indicates you’re very naive.

‘ you can’t be truthful that you lust after Andrew’
‘Not everyone wants a sit down interview every time you get triggered’


Ok here’s where you are about to stop, Unless you are Courtney/Shane do not assume anything based off of a 1 hour TV show so to say she’s not being truthful is incorrect, she’s even said she likes Andrew but she understands he’s straight. So you are WRONG.



Regards the interview, you are a part of the problem Courtney/Shane needs to have these talks or ‘interviews’ to educate. we saw with John that he even said that he was brought up being taught to be homophobic, but with Courtney being there to educate she can change peoples mind set and the way they think.

The LGBTQ community still faces issues every day. So Courtney being in there she is doing a massive thing for everyone apart of the community with having debates, educating not only those in the house but the viewers.

If she just went in there and started shouting and ranting she would be out first because that’s exactly what India did.

So don’t you dare say that no one wants to see these ‘interviews everytime she gets triggered’. They are done to educate and not be spiteful. Courtney has never said anything offensive, rude or pushy but instead has tried her best to actually understand people like Ann and Johns point of view, learn from it.



Ok I’m over with this. delete your account.


What the actual F is this? I presume you're on a wind up?

[Nicky91]

Shane J a two faced hypocrite UGH :oh: i have been so mistaken by this idiot

[Paula D]

Anyway, getting back to adult conversation, what's pissing me off about Shane J is simply his sucking up to Andrew.

He knew Andrew was in the wrong when he went off on his rant at Jonny the other night, you could see it in his face and yet he wouldn't speak up. He's no problem speaking up to anyone else so it's pathetic.

[Shaun]

Ok son you are not fecking oprah

You also dont have the final word on being gay or sexuality or anything else for that matter.

In what world is "having a word" now the same as "having the final word"? :think: You're projecting a bit much and trying to make him out to be something he's not :laugh:

From recent examples I assume you mean the John thing, which is fair enough IMO because what John said - about straight men constantly being on guard around gay men because they think they might be objectified - is absolutely absurd since it's the way how women are treated 24/7 and you've admitted that yourself today:

Well I think I speak for all straight men when I say you certainly think within the first 0.005 seconds "would I bang that?"

:shrug:

I didn't think too much of that conversation between John/Shane because it was fair and calm and resolved, and Shane relayed what was said to (I think) Malika in, again, a fair and calm way. The expectation that none of them should ever talk about each other to other housemates behind their backs is just impossible - and when it's an example as inane and harmless as this it's really a non-starter.

The only other example I can recall of 'Courtney bitching' was about Ginuwine in the nominations discussion and... again... Courtney was 100% correct. Ginuwine shouted over everyone and didn't let Wayne speak at all about saving Amanda (only to then let Shane L talk about why Ashley should stay :idc: can't imagine why he allowed that)

I figured the "Courtney the Educator" storyline would begin to grate on some of the British viewers eventually because they don't like being told how to think unless it's by #Sum1British (who's also loud and dated) and the whole "Year of the Woman" frame for the show would inevitably dissipate into the same old tackfest, where Courtney having a discussion about race politics would prompt groans from the audience who just want to watch Jess down a liquified glass of cow brains, but I find it refreshing.

[Robodog]

Yes being a straight white male I can see how saying straight white male is "racist" :pat:

(I'll give you a clue. It isn't)

No need for your patronising emojis or 'clues'. They come across like cheap air freshener trying to hide the big verbal turd you just laid.

Let's look at the facts.

You just made the negative statement 'look at you, getting all straight white male on us' when i pointed out the recent rise in anti-white hate crime.

What do you mean 'getting all straight white male'?

Clearly you meant that in a negative way, no doubt about that.
As if being 'straight, white male' is a 'bad thing' somehow in your mind.

So to help you see the bigotry of your own statement, let's flip it around.

Let's imagine you had pointed out a statistic regarding anti-black hate crime.

Then imagine another person responded with:
'look at you, getting all gay black female on us!'

You see the obvious bigotry when it's that way round, right?

It's all negative stereotyping. Not cool.

I'm an equalist.
To me, anti-white, anti-male, anti-straight comments like yours are EQUALLY as objectionable as anti-black, anti-female, and anti-gay comments are by anyone else.

But maybe you are unequal in your logic.
Maybe you think it's ok to be negative about 'straight white males'?
Maybe you think it's ok to stereotype ONE race, ONE gender, ONE sexuality - but not others?

If so then THAT, my patronising friend, is what we call bigotry:
Racist, sexist and anti-straight bigotry.

My advice?:

Aim for ACTUAL equality and intellectual consistency on these subjects or you are no better than the racists of this world.

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes that would be crazy

Especially since statistics show that in 2016-2017 the biggest rise in hate crime was in fact 'anti white'

:clap1:

[Marsh.]

No need for your patronising emojis or 'clues'. They come across like cheap air freshener trying to hide the big verbal turd you just laid.

Let's look at the facts.

You just made the negative statement 'look at you, getting all straight white male on us' when i pointed out the recent rise in anti-white hate crime.

What do you mean 'getting all straight white male'?

Clearly you meant that in a negative way, no doubt about that.
As if being 'straight, white male' is a 'bad thing' somehow in your mind.

So to help you see the bigotry of your own statement, let's flip it around.

Let's imagine you had pointed out a statistic regarding anti-black hate crime.

Then imagine another person responded with:
'look at you, getting all gay black female on us!'

You see the obvious bigotry when it's that way round, right?

It's all negative stereotyping. Not cool.

I'm an equalist.
To me, anti-white, anti-male, anti-straight comments like yours are EQUALLY as objectionable as anti-black, anti-female, and anti-gay comments are by anyone else.

But maybe you are unequal in your logic.
Maybe you think it's ok to be negative about 'straight white males'?
Maybe you think it's ok to stereotype ONE race, ONE gender, ONE sexuality - but not others?

If so then THAT, my patronising friend, is what we call bigotry:
Racist, sexist and anti-straight bigotry.

My advice?:

Aim for ACTUAL equality and intellectual consistency on these subjects or you are no better than the racists of this world.
In short: I have a cousin who's gay, black and transgender.

[Marsh.]

:clap1:
Poor white people. :(

Non-white people have never had it so good.

[chuff me dizzy]

Poor white people. :(

Non-white people have never had it so good.

Go back on topic please .. Thank you :flowers:

[Marsh.]

Go back on topic please .. Thank you :flowers:
I just responded to a post you're agreeing with. So it's very much on topic.

Oh wait... by on topic you mean agree with you don't you? :pat:

[Robodog]

In short: I have a cousin who's gay, black and transgender.

Then let that inspire you into realising that bigotry is wrong - whether it's aimed at gay, black trans-people or at straight white males.

[chuff me dizzy]

I just responded to a post you're agreeing with. So it's very much on topic.

Oh wait... by on topic you mean agree with you don't you? :pat:

That would never happen, you never agree with anyone

[Marsh.]

Then let that inspire you into realising that bigotry is wrong - whether it's aimed at gay, black trans-people or at straight white males.
Yes I have offended myself, a straight white male, by insinuating that you are a straight white male. Even though it appears you are, in fact, a straight white male.

God, black people don't have to deal with this level of bigotry.

[Marsh.]

That would never happen, you never agree with anyone
In the threads you appear in?

You bet I don't.

[Jase.]

Yes I have offended myself, a straight white male, by insinuating that you are a straight white male. Even though it appears you are, in fact, a straight white male.

:skull:

[Robodog]

Yes I have offended myself, a straight white male, by insinuating that you are a straight white male. Even though it appears you are, in fact, a straight white male.

God, black people don't have to deal with this level of bigotry.

The only bigotry here is from YOU, when you said

'Look at you getting all straight white male on us'

That is a negative, bigoted, stereotypical statement about straight, white males no matter who said it or what colour they are.

You don't like it when i point that out.

Which is why you keep squirming.

Own it.

And move on.

[chuff me dizzy]

The only bigotry here is from YOU, when you said

'Look at you getting all straight white male on us'

That is a negative, bigoted, stereotypical statement about straight, white males no matter who said it or what colour they are.

You don't like it when i point that out.

Which is why you keep squirming.

Own it.

And move on.

:clap1:

[Marsh.]

The only bigotry here is from YOU, when you said

'Look at you getting all straight white male on us'

That is a negative, bigoted, stereotypical statement about straight, white males no matter who said it or what colour they are.

You don't like it when i point that out.

Which is why you keep squirming.

Own it.

And move on.

Yes, squirming, that's what I'm doing. :joker:

How very straight white male of you to get so defensive when you try to dismiss the struggles of minority groups and get called out on it. Shame on you.

[Stacyfrancisyasgal]

I understand that and that’s exactly what Shane J is doing on the show with people like Ann and John, yet people jump on this forum and say calm down Oprah.... you can’t win.



Just look at the amount of intolerance, and pushy and aggressive statements contained in this post.

And you call others 'part of the problem' !

When it comes to resolving social issues, a major part of 'the problem' is intolerant and aggressive attitudes like this.

It's like a brick wall of angry hatred. Solves nothing. Helps nobody.

YES there are some problems and confusion in the mainstream regarding LGBT issues.
YES dialogue is needed in order that people can understand each other better and society can evolve.

But that dialogue is a two-way thing.
It takes time, and it also requires patience and understanding ON BOTH SIDES.

You have to BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE.

You want respect?. You have to give respect.
You want acceptance and understanding from others? You have to BE accepting and understanding toward others.

You want people to hear YOUR side of the story and not attack you for being different?
Well, then you have to do the same for them, right? And not attack them for being different from you.

You can't make your point against intolerance.... by being intolerant yourself!

"Sit your ass down"
"Delete your account" etc etc

Sound tolerant and progressive to you??

[Stacyfrancisyasgal]

By the way, you can’t quote this saying ‘an excellence post’ when you are the one scrutinising Shane J who hasn’t been ‘pushy’ ‘aggressive’ at all.


I can admit you’re completely right, but look at the angle that when you aren’t aggressive / intolerant you get people saying ‘calm down oprah’ or whatever.

So what are you to do? It’s easy to get frustrated

Just look at the amount of intolerance, and pushy and aggressive statements contained in this post.

And you call others 'part of the problem' !

When it comes to resolving social issues, a major part of 'the problem' is intolerant and aggressive attitudes like this.

It's like a brick wall of angry hatred. Solves nothing. Helps nobody.

YES there are some problems and confusion in the mainstream regarding LGBT issues.
YES dialogue is needed in order that people can understand each other better and society can evolve.

But that dialogue is a two-way thing.
It takes time, and it also requires patience and understanding ON BOTH SIDES.

You have to BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE.

You want respect?. You have to give respect.
You want acceptance and understanding from others? You have to BE accepting and understanding toward others.

You want people to hear YOUR side of the story and not attack you for being different?
Well, then you have to do the same for them, right? And not attack them for being different from you.

You can't make your point against intolerance.... by being intolerant yourself!

"Sit your ass down"
"Delete your account" etc etc

Sound tolerant and progressive to you??

[Robodog]

Yes, squirming, that's what I'm doing. :joker:

How very straight white male of you to get so defensive when you try to dismiss the struggles of minority groups. Shame on you.

And back you go, 360 degrees with yet another example of your anti-white, anti-male, anti-straight negative stereotyping.

The shame is all yours my friend.

I AM the one who made points in this thread about EQUAL treatment for all.

YOU are the one making bigoted statements.

ANY FOOL CAN SEE THAT. Just re-read our posts.

So squirm, project, deny all you like.

But YOU are the bigot.

END OF

.

[Marsh.]

The shame is all yours my friend.

I AM the one who made points in this thread about EQUAL treatment for all.

YOU are the one making bigoted statements.

ANY FOOL CAN SEE THAT. Just re-read our posts.

So squirm, project, deny all you like.

But YOU are the bigot.

END OF

:joker:

Still highly defensive. I wonder why that is.

You were the one flying off the handle at posts and statements that weren't even addressed to you. Yet it incensed you so much because you obviously saw yourself in the group I was discussing. That's an issue YOU have to deal with, not me.

[Marsh.]

Yes, white supremacy is just negative stereotyping. It doesn't and has never happened. Ok.

You're white, so you're right. :thumbs:

As a straight man, you can also comment that the gay community are overreacting and their struggles aren't real.

[chuff me dizzy]

And back you go, 360 degrees with yet another example of your anti-white, anti-male, anti-straight negative stereotyping.

The shame is all yours my friend.

I AM the one who made points in this thread about EQUAL treatment for all.

YOU are the one making bigoted statements.

ANY FOOL CAN SEE THAT. Just re-read our posts.

So squirm, project, deny all you like.

But YOU are the bigot.

END OF

.

:clap1:

[Marsh.]

Chuff adding so much to the thread as usual.

[Ashsleigh]

In short: I have a cousin who's gay, black and transgender.

:laugh2:

[poppsywoppsy]

What I, find annoying is when people like Shane J, in order to put their point across describe it as educating people.

I am educated to degree level, thank you and can make my own mind up as I see fit.

Educating people to his point of view, in my eyes should be called, informing others of his own choices in this matter, not educating them as the term smacks of those who may not hold the same view or persuasion, being ill educated or not as educated as he is by having a different view.

An issue, which could bring better understanding rather than put the back up of one of the participants before the discussion even begins. No one likes to be preached at or told they are stupid when holding a conversation on a topic where they do not agree.

[Paula D]

Oh okay, I get it now, I've been out of practice on this forum.

Some people just arguing with their toenails for the sake of it.

Grand, I've copped it now, I'll ignore it.

[Underscore]

Yes I have offended myself, a straight white male, by insinuating that you are a straight white male. Even though it appears you are, in fact, a straight white male.

God, black people don't have to deal with this level of bigotry.

.

[Christmas Lights]

A lot of the time he loads Andrews gun and sits back and observes while Andrew fires his bullets for him,but Andrew is to dim to see Shanes game and last night he had the cheek to call Jonny uneducated !

I think Andrew is using Shane J . He knows stupid showmances get air time and Shane J is his cash cow to get to the final.

Remember a while ago when somebody asked if if he'd get with Courtney and his first response was "to win" ?? :bored: .And Courtney was right there next to him .

But I think they're both sex mad attention seekers,and I believe Andrew would go as far as Shane J /Courtney pushes him sexually. Andrew did porn so let's face it he's a male whor who'll do anything :yuk: ,it's pathetic how desperate he is .

He's actually gay for pay , I know people are saying they think he's in the closet. But I think Andrew is a game player but he's a horny idiot who gets turned on by a drag queen and he thinks he can pretend it's a woman so that when they sneak off together ,he can joke that it was Courtney and not Shane. And how "stunning" Courtney is and he's always saying she's a "sl ut " .

[Ant.]

In short: I have a cousin who's gay, black and transgender.

:laugh2: