Let's discuss Ann's homophobia and Daniel defending Ann's homophobia...

[OnikaChrist]

Did y'all just see that?

Andrew and Shane J walked into the kitchen and Shane jokingly said "Ann, even if you won't recognize our marriage, you have to recognize our love" and Ann replied with "that's disgusting".

Then, when Shane J, Andrew and Daniel were discussing what Ann said, Daniel said "We just don't get her humor!! Our grandparents were probably like that!"



Not him defending Ann's homophobia :nono: And just because their grandparents were homophobic doesn't mean that it's okay for Ann to be homophobic.

We need to kick out Daniel & Ann during the next eviction :hehe:

[Lilac hills]

I’m not homophobic but I’m very shandrew phobic

Anyone would be disgusted by that duo

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I didn't like that comment Ann made. And I disagree.. Love is love, doesn't matter if it's between man and man, or man's and woman :nono:

[Christmas Lights]

And yet John gets blasted for his opinion :bored:

Double standards :crazy::laugh3:. But I'd be disgusted by Shane J & Andrew as well as I don't like them .

But it's funny that hypocrisy . I'm so glad I miss every HL show it's a mess .

Hardly anyone worth supporting , too many bitches and idiots in the house.

[Jase.]

How any gay man or woman can support this revolting bitch in this show is beyond me. She isn't even entertaining?

[GiRTh]

I didnt see the incident.

I still cant understand Ann popularity TBH. She does things then accuses people of doing the exact same things.

[Withano]

Is Daniel defending it? It was more creating a parallel, no? Obviously what Ann said is thick, and I'm so certain that Daniel would agree, he was just explaining that a lot of people of a certain age are a bit thick as far as lgbt-education goes.

[joeysteele]

I didn't like that comment Ann made. And I disagree.. Live is love, doesn't matter if it's between man and man, or man's and woman :nono:

It is., you are absolutely right Vanessa.

[Lilac hills]

Her comment was bad btw and Daniels way of excusing it was also equally douchey

Still hate those two prats tho

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

It doesn't matter if you like Shane and Andrew or not. The comment Ann made was wrong. I get that she's old fashioned, but there was no need for that.

[poppsywoppsy]

Oh God, I am so over these homophobic threads, it is getting old and tired.

A whole programme and it is one comment jumped on by the same old, same old.

Anyone like to see the best side of people.

[Alf]

Even though Ann doesn't have one of gay people, What's the crime in having a phobia of something? People can't help having phobias.

[thisisdanny]

I didn't like that comment Ann made. And I disagree.. Love is love, doesn't matter if it's between man and man, or man's and woman :nono:

Not you discriminating the lesbians :fist:

[thisisdanny]

Daniel didn't defend it, I think he was just trying to brush her comment under the carpet to avoid possible conflict

[lewis111]

I managed to support Danielle McMahon, I'll manage to support Ann

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Not you discriminating the lesbians :fist:

No :laugh:

[poppsywoppsy]

Even though Ann doesn't have one of gay people, What's the crime in having a phobia of something? People can't help having phobias.

It might even be about drag queens:joker:

[Kazanne]

Did y'all just see that?

Andrew and Shane J walked into the kitchen and Shane jokingly said "Ann, even if you won't recognize our marriage, you have to recognize our love" and Ann replied with "that's disgusting".

Then, when Shane J, Andrew and Daniel were discussing what Ann said, Daniel said "We just don't get her humor!! Our grandparents were probably like that!"

Erm.. is that cracker being serious?

Not him defending Ann's homophobia :nono: And just because their grandparents were homophobic doesn't mean that it's okay for Ann to be homophobic.

We need to kick out Daniel & Ann during the next eviction :hehe:

Oh stop taking things so seriously, they said it purposely to annoy Ann,they disgust me too because they are just plain nasty especially Andrew, who wants to watch them in love.

I have just found out what that word cracker means,you should be ashamed of yourself

[thisisdanny]

I managed to support Danielle McMahon, I'll manage to support Ann

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[Peppermint]

Hmm, haven't seen it but sounds dodgy. Slowly seeing the downfall of Ann unfortunately :(

[Epic.]

Tbf she did say she thought Andrew was playing a game so it's not confirmed homophobia that she called it 'sick.'

[Withano]

Oh God, I am so over these homophobic threads, it is getting old and tired.

A whole programme and it is one comment jumped on by the same old, same old.

Anyone like to see the best side of people.

Guys stop caring about homophobia, it irritates poppsywoppsy. Just let homophobia slide yeh?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Hmm, haven't seen it but sounds dodgy. Slowly seeing the downfall of Ann unfortunately :(

As much as I think she's an amazing housemate, I just didn't like that comment. And I wouldn't have liked it if she made it about anyone else as well.

[poppsywoppsy]

Guys stop caring about homophobia, it irritates poppsywoppsy. Just let homophobia slide yeh?

One comment, milk it, milk it.

[bots]

so ann objected to a fake exhibition for the cameras? I see no issue in that

[rph]

How any gay man or woman can support this revolting bitch in this show is beyond me. She isn't even entertaining?
Agreed , it makes me so mad on twitter too

[Withano]

One comment, milk it, milk it.

Ikr. Like its just a little bit of homophobia, why cant people just pretend it never happened ugh. Like I get its only 45 minutes of highlights a night, and this was one of the larger scenes tonighht, and people specifically come on to this website to discuss the larger scenes of the 45 minute show once it finishes, but like I'm sooOoOooO000oOo bored of talking about it homophobia. Just leave those comments be. Amiryt.

[montblanc]

I still cant understand Ann popularity TBH. She does things then accuses people of doing the exact same things.

this

[poppsywoppsy]

Ikr. Like its just a little bit of homophobia, why cant people just pretend it never happened ugh. Like I get its only 45 minutes of highlights a night, and this was one of the larger scenes tonighht, and people specifically come on to this website to discuss the larger scenes of the 45 minute show once it finishes, but like I'm sooOoOooO000oOo bored of talking about it homophobia. Just leave those comments be. Amiryt.

Hooray, I am bored with it too.

[jaxie]

How do you know she wasn't disgusted by their drunken mockery of her past without context?

[Kazanne]

As much as I think she's an amazing housemate, I just didn't like that comment. And I wouldn't have liked it if she made it about anyone else as well.

She said absolutely nothing wrong,wtf is up with people?

[Withano]

Hooray, I am bored with it too.

Okay no need for the sarcasm

[chuff me dizzy]

And yet John gets blasted for his opinion :bored:

Double standards :crazy::laugh3:. But I'd be disgusted by Shane J & Andrew as well as I don't like them .

But it's funny that hypocrisy . I'm so glad I miss every HL show it's a mess .

Hardly anyone worth supporting , too many bitches and idiots in the house.

You need to watch tonights highlights show, watch the Desperate Duo closely ,watch Andrew stroking Shane ,and the foul talk coming out of both their mouths and tell me if you find it entertaining ,because I certainly don't ,I just wish they would get the deed done and calm it all down a gear

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh stop taking things so seriously, they said it purposely to annoy Ann,they disgust me too because they are just plain nasty especially Andrew, who wants to watch them in love.

TOTALLY done to get a reaction from Ann, from the sly sneaky snake

[Christmas Lights]

You need to watch tonights highlights show, watch the Desperate Duo closely ,watch Andrew stroking Shane ,and the foul talk coming out of both their mouths and tell me if you find it entertaining ,because I certainly don't ,I just wish they would get the deed done and calm it all down a gear

I can't Chuff I really can't bear another HL show!! :bored:. I've deliberately missed a week.

I'm sick to death of those vulgar bitches :rant: .

Tomorrow eviction will probably get rid of Amanda while the twats stay in .

[pontyboi]

Did y'all just see that?

Andrew and Shane J walked into the kitchen and Shane jokingly said "Ann, even if you won't recognize our marriage, you have to recognize our love" and Ann replied with "that's disgusting".

Then, when Shane J, Andrew and Daniel were discussing what Ann said, Daniel said "We just don't get her humor!! Our grandparents were probably like that!"

Erm.. is that cracker being serious?

Not him defending Ann's homophobia :nono: And just because their grandparents were homophobic doesn't mean that it's okay for Ann to be homophobic.

We need to kick out Daniel & Ann during the next eviction :hehe:

Personal question...are you black?

[chuff me dizzy]

I can't Chuff I really can't bear another HL show!! :bored:. I've deliberately missed a week.

I'm sick to death of those vulgar bitches :rant: .

Tomorrow eviction will probably get rid of Amanda while the twats stay in .

My God GH give me Anns morals anyday of the dirty getts who the poor woman has to live with

[bots]

everyone has said that their bromance is fake and entirely for the camera. On what planet should ann condone that crap when its shoved in her face.

[Lilac hills]

Tbh after reevaluating it it probably wasn’t meant in a ugh disgusting gays way more in a ugh disgusting fake bromance way

[smudgie]

They disgust me as well.
For the bitching and nastiness.
And the fakery is quite disgusting, the same as I am disgusted at the other showmance in the house.
Nothing to do with same sex relationships, just fooking fake ones..:fist:

[chuff me dizzy]

everyone has said that their bromance is fake and entirely for the camera. On what planet should ann condone that crap when its shoved in her face.

Bromance my arse !! you don't stroke and cuddle a man like they do in a bromance .... Ann is a better woman than me because I would be kicking off big time in there,and Shane the snake digs at her to get a reaction,then goes in the garden with his bitch and backstabs her, what a vile piece of **** he is ,he deserves the likes of Andrew

[chuff me dizzy]

They disgust me as well.
For the bitching and nastiness.
And the fakery is quite disgusting, the same as I am disgusted at the other showmance in the house.
Nothing to do with same sex relationships, just fooking fake ones..:fist:

Did you hear the big stupid wannabe gangsters moll Andrew claim his and Shane relationship was more real than the other pair of camera joggers ?

[bots]

Did you hear the big stupid wannabe gangsters moll Andrew claim his and Shane relationship was more real than the other pair of camera joggers ?

yes, thats was entirely for the camera too :fist: Who in a relationship thinks theirs is more real than someone elses :joker:

[joeysteele]

Hmm, haven't seen it but sounds dodgy. Slowly seeing the downfall of Ann unfortunately :(

Thing is,she has always held those views.
I think she is wrong and it should not be seen as wrong or worthy of ridicule to be 2 men or 2 women having affection for each other.

Ann makes a great play of people breaking rules to get rights,such as voting rights for women and other issues.
Well it is perfectly legal for gay people to marry,have relationships from hard-won rights fought for too.

She cannot pick and choose what she does approve of or not.
After all her friend in there Amanda is in a relationship with another woman.
Does Ann disapprove of that,would she voice that to Amanda as she did to Shane and Andrew.

I like Ann,there's little I'd agree with her on,I'd love to have in depth discussions on issues,her career anger views
However I'd too challenge any prejudiced,selective or otherwise views she expressed too.

I think she may well have lost some support from those in same sex relationships watching after tonight.

She has always been a little controversial but care does need to be taken when airing any prejudices you have.
She needs to take care,not,to overstep boundaries.

I know she has those views,I think she's wrong in them.
Still an awesome housemate to watch but this was near out of line by her, really being fair,she's often not and often far from being right.

[Christmas Lights]

My God GH give me Anns morals anyday of the dirty getts who the poor woman has to live with

People are saying Ann kept saving Daniel ,and so did some of the other women?? :facepalm:.
Why do they all keep saving Daniel an completely avoiding putting Andrew up for eviction :mad: .

But If I was in the house I'd be disgusted as well by Andrew & Shane J as well , utterly pathetic . They keep getting worse from what I'm hearing so no wonder she's put off by them .
But they'll​ never get nominated or evicted.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

#teamann

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Thing is,she has always held those views.
I think she is wrong and it should not be seen as wrong or worthy of ridicule to be 2 men or 2 women having affection for each other.

Ann makes a great play of people breaking rules to get rights,such as voting rights for women and other issues.
Well it is perfectly legal for gay people to marry,have relationships from hard-won rights fought for too.

She cannot pick and choose what she does approve of or not.
After all her friend in there Amanda is in a relationship with another woman.
Does Ann disapprove of that,would she voice that to Amanda as she did to Shane and Andrew.

I like Ann,there's little I'd agree with her on,I'd love to have in depth discussions on issues,her career anger views
However I'd too challenge any prejudiced,selective or otherwise views she expressed too.

I think she may well have lost some support from those in same sex relationships watching after tonight.

She has always been a little controversial but care does need to be taken when airing any prejudices you have.
She needs to take care,not,to overstep boundaries.

I know she has those views,I think she's wrong in them.
Still an awesome housemate to watch but this was near out of line by her, really being fair,she's often not and often far from being right.
:clap1:

[joeysteele]

so ann objected to a fake exhibition for the cameras? I see no issue in that

No,she is not in favour of gay marriage,her Roman Catholic,strongly held views,do govern her thinking on aspects of gay issues.

She does have problems with the issue despite changes in the law.
That's why even I found it an unnecessary loose comment to enforce tonight.
Thankfully,for the gay communities,Ann and her thinking have lost the argument.

Anyway,she is still despite it compulsive viewing this series and she is getting my votes,when needed.
However her homophobic thinking and comments should not warrant support anywhere.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

No,she is not in favour of gay marriage,her Romance Catholic,strongly held views,do govern her thinking on aspects of gay issues.

She does have problems with the issue despite changes in the law.
That's why even I found it an unnecessary loose comment to enforce tonight.
Thankfully,for the gay communities,Ann and her thinking have lost the argument.

Anyway,she is still despite it compulsive viewing this series and she is getting my votes,when needed.
However her homophobic thinking and comments should not warrant support anywhere.

She was objecting to gay love, that's the way I see it.

[bots]

No,she is not in favour of gay marriage,her Romance Catholic,strongly held views,do govern her thinking on aspects of gay issues.

She does have problems with the issue despite changes in the law.
That's why even I found it an unnecessary loose comment to enforce tonight.
Thankfully,for the gay communities,Ann and her thinking have lost the argument.

Anyway,she is still despite it compulsive viewing this series and she is getting my votes,when needed.
However her homophobic thinking and comments should not warrant support anywhere.

only andrew is not gay and he is faking it up for the camera.

[Patricia4]

She said absolutely nothing wrong,wtf is up with people?

I agree with yo Kazanne.

[chuff me dizzy]

People are saying Ann kept saving Daniel ,and so did some of the other women?? :facepalm:.
Why do they all keep saving Daniel an completely avoiding putting Andrew up for eviction :mad: .

But If I was in the house I'd be disgusted as well by Andrew & Shane J as well , utterly pathetic . They keep getting worse from what I'm hearing so no wonder she's put off by them .
But they'll​ never get nominated or evicted.

I think the hm8s are scared of offending Andrew and maybe think because he's an ok looking man,he will be popular outside .... How wrong they are

[Christmas Lights]

only andrew is not gay and he is faking it up for the camera.

He's gay for pay and using Shane J to get to the final . Why won't people acknowledge that he'll drop Shane J as soon as they leave BB House. He might keep up the pretence for a bit ,and then he'll be harassing women in no time :bored: .

He's so desperate he'll do anything to win and make money,he previously did porn )who wants to see Andrew's ugly mug in porn :yuk: ) . He'll do anything with Shane J and he'll use the excuse that it's Courtney leading him astray :crazy: .

[Cherry Christmas]

Pretty sure Ann does not like PDA's whether gay or straight, she would have had a similar reaction to Ashley and G and if she said it them no one would bat an eyelid

[Kazanne]

Thing is,she has always held those views.
I think she is wrong and it should not be seen as wrong or worthy of ridicule to be 2 men or 2 women having affection for each other.

Ann makes a great play of people breaking rules to get rights,such as voting rights for women and other issues.
Well it is perfectly legal for gay people to marry,have relationships from hard-won rights fought for too.

She cannot pick and choose what she does approve of or not.
After all her friend in there Amanda is in a relationship with another woman.
Does Ann disapprove of that,would she voice that to Amanda as she did to Shane and Andrew.

I like Ann,there's little I'd agree with her on,I'd love to have in depth discussions on issues,her career anger views
However I'd too challenge any prejudiced,selective or otherwise views she expressed too.

I think she may well have lost some support from those in same sex relationships watching after tonight.

She has always been a little controversial but care does need to be taken when airing any prejudices you have.
She needs to take care,not,to overstep boundaries.

I know she has those views,I think she's wrong in them.
Still an awesome housemate to watch but this was near out of line by her, really being fair,she's often not and often far from being right.

She didn't say it as Shane J and Andrew said she did though,Shane and Andrew know exactly how to target Ann and why say to her she could watch their love? why would she want to Joey ? I cant blame her, they are disgusting in some of the things they say,

[chuff me dizzy]

He's gay for pay and using Shane J to get to the final . Why won't people acknowledge that he'll drop Shane J as soon as they leave BB House. He might keep up the pretence for a bit ,and then he'll be harassing women in no time :bored: .

He's so desperate he'll do anything to win and make money,he previously did porn )who wants to see Andrew's ugly mug in porn :yuk: ) . He'll do anything with Shane J and he'll use the excuse that it's Courtney leading him astray :crazy: .

No Ive got to disagree with you this once ....If you had seen the way Andrew was stroking Shanes arm tonight and the way he had his hand around him holding onto his side you wouldn't think this ^^

[Christmas Lights]

Pretty sure Ann does not like PDA's whether gay or straight, she would have had a similar reaction to Ashkey and G and if she said it them no knew would bat an eyelid

Exactly. PDA annoys me too especially fake showmances :yuk: .

[chuff me dizzy]

She didn't say it as Shane J and Andrew said she did though,Shane and Andrew know exactly how to target Ann and why say to her she could watch their love? why would she want to Joey ? I cant blame her, they are disgusting in some of the things they say,

:clap1: As I saw it too Kaz

[joeysteele]

She was objecting to gay love, that's the way I see it.

Yes she was.
No matter what people may think of this bromance,which I find quite nice actually.

She KNOWS Shane J is gay, deliberately casting slurs on his sexuality and attraction to another guy,is purely and simply wrong.
That kind of prejudice is and should be consigned to history.



That's not going to happen with Ann,her views are her own but care needs to be taken,by her not to deliberately overstep acceptable boundaries,which I think she did tonight actually.

[Cherry Christmas]

Did y'all just see that?

Andrew and Shane J walked into the kitchen and Shane jokingly said "Ann, even if you won't recognize our marriage, you have to recognize our love" and Ann replied with "that's disgusting".

Then, when Shane J, Andrew and Daniel were discussing what Ann said, Daniel said "We just don't get her humor!! Our grandparents were probably like that!"

Erm.. is that cracker being serious?

Not him defending Ann's homophobia :nono: And just because their grandparents were homophobic doesn't mean that it's okay for Ann to be homophobic.

We need to kick out Daniel & Ann during the next eviction :hehe:


It was Jonny mentioned the generation thing and grandparents and Andrew, Shane J and Daniel agreed, Daniel said some people didn't get her humour

[Kazanne]

Pretty sure Ann does not like PDA's whether gay or straight, she would have had a similar reaction to Ashkey and G and if she said it them no knew would bat an eyelid

Yes,exactly

[joeysteele]

She said absolutely nothing wrong,wtf is up with people?

She did Kazanne.
It really is time homophobia was eradicated.

Gay people fought hard and long for the rights they have,Ann would have denied them many of those rights.

[Christmas Lights]

No Ive got to disagree with you this once ....If you had seen the way Andrew was stroking Shanes arm tonight and the way he had his hand around him holding onto his side you wouldn't think this ^^

Andrew is still manipulating a game plan :notimpressed:. What you saying then? You think he's just sex mad???. Because that's obvious ,they're both vulgar and act like horny teenagers :yuk: .

[Parmy]

She did Kazanne.
It really is time homophobia was eradicated.

Gay people fought hard and long for the rights they have,Ann would have denied them many of those rights.

Anns religious beliefs actually. She doesnt really have control over that.

[chuff me dizzy]

Andrew is still manipulating a game plan :notimpressed:. What you saying then? You think he's just sex mad l. Because that's obvious ,they're both vulgar and act like horny teenagers :yuk: .

They make my skin crawl and like Ann I don't want to watch ANY couple carrying on like this ,but anyone who believes this is just 2 mates having fun need to give their heads a shake ... Im off to chill because this place sometimes makes me feel physically sick

[chuff me dizzy]

Anns religious beliefs actually. She doesnt really have control over that.

Exactly, along with her upbringing and her age and her good morals ,which I share even though I'm an out and out atheist

[joeysteele]

only andrew is not gay and he is faking it up for the camera.

Are you saying she is right then in.her view to object publicly to gay relationships.
That the law is wrong.
She has fought hard against gay rights in her career.

That is how she came across tonight still uncompromising.
Shane J is gay,Andrew may or may not be,or may be bisexual even.

Who really knows,I don't and you don't either.
Someone who was unsure if they were,are not likely to say when faced with a homophobe.

That's the attitude that still needs consigning to the dustbin.

[Headie]

Wow! Homophobe says something homophobic! Shocker!

[chuff me dizzy]

Are you saying she is right then in.her view to object publicly to gay relationships.
That the law is wrong.
She has fought hard against gay rights in her career.

That is how she came across tonight still uncompromising.
Shane J is gay,Andrew may or may not be,or may be bisexual even.

Who really knows,I don't and you don't either.
Someone who was unsure if they were,are not likely to say when faced with a homophobe.

That's the attitude that still needs consigning to the dustbin.

Ann knew Shane and Andrew were goading her into a reaction,she shut them down dead in a few words, then walked away and i applaud her ,they both ended up looking like fools, all at the hands of OAP !!

[joeysteele]

Anns religious beliefs actually. She doesnt really have control over that.

From her Roman Catholic religion you mean which looks down on and segregated gay people as to marriage and communion.
However likes them going to Church to help fill the collection baskets.

While having a large number of its own Priests engaging in homosexual relationships and assaults on young boys and teens.

[Greg!]

She wasn't being homophobic. She was dragging Andrew and Shane, not the gays

[Christmas Lights]

They make my skin crawl and like Ann I don't want to watch ANY couple carrying on like this ,but anyone who believes this is just 2 mates having fun need to give their heads a shake ... Im off to chill because this place sometimes makes me feel physically sick

I'm fed up of Andrew claiming he's straight he's clearly experimented and he's too sexual for his own good , so I wouldn't be surprised if outside the house he's slept with all kinds of people .

But people are confused in the house as he keeps denying him and Shane J and keeps saying they're friends and he's straight which is BS :sleep: .

Andrew isn't even that good-looking , I don't know why people are so obsessed with the twat and his personality is ugly . He's sly and nasty and he knows from CBB 19 that stupid showmances get air time and fans .

[Jase.]

I'm fed up of Andrew claiming he's straight he's clearly experimented and he's too sexual for his own good , so I wouldn't be surprised if outside the house he's slept with all kinds of people .

But people are confused in the house as he keeps denying him and Shane J and keeps saying they're friends and he's straight which is BS :sleep: .

Andrew isn't even that good-looking , I don't know why people are so obsessed with the twat and his personality is ugly . He's sly and nasty and he knows from CBB 19 that stupid showmances get air time and fans .

You have way too much hatred towards somebody you've never met :umm2:

[Parmy]

From her Roman Catholic religion you mean which looks down on and segregated gay people as to marriage and communion.
However likes them going to Church to help fill the collection baskets.

While having a large number of its own Priests engaging in homosexual relationships and assaults on young boys and teens.



Yes, thats the one.

[bots]

You have way too much hatred towards somebody you've never met :umm2:

and one could say the same about all the reactions to ann here

[Jase.]

and one could say the same about all the reactions to ann here

Ann's homophobic, a large member of TiBB members are gay - I think the hate Ann receives is pretty f'n justifiable.

[bots]

Ann's homophobic, a large member of TiBB members are gay - I think the hate Ann receives is pretty f'n justifiable.

ann was not homophobic tonight

[Jase.]

ann was not homophobic tonight

She was. And it's a well known fact she's homophobic outside of the show anyway so :umm2:

[empire]

the only reason why people are kicking off is because ann is a woman, and the stereotype is that all women are pro gay, ann likes to be around men for company, she has whats called a straight mans mind, and we straight men are expected to be conservative, and to show no emotions, and its not ann's fault that she grew up in an environment like that, same thing with women who get upset if there husbands and boyfriends have anti gays views, but women expect guys to be like this and they go out with them anyway, but its when there men say the words, then they cry about it, so its I want to have all my cake an eat it, ann is comfortable being around gay people, but is not comfortable with same sex marriage, again, want to have my cake an eat it, ann has to agree to both things in this world of to day.

[chuff me dizzy]

If Ann is so homophobic why doesn't she also have a problem with Wayne ?

[joeysteele]

Yes, thats the one.

That's really worrying then.

[chuff me dizzy]

ann was not homophobic tonight

:clap1:

[Christmas Lights]

If Ann is so homophobic why doesn't she also have a problem with Wayne ?

Exactly!!! :clap1:
Ann actually admire's Wayne and his dance career .

It's so obvious from what i've heard that dumb & dumber were shoving their PDA in Ann's face :bored: , so i'd be telling them they're gross and annoying aswell .

It's like if someone shoved their naked body in your face , and you told them to stop as you don't like it . And then people twist it around saying "ohhh how dare you body shame somebody for being proud of their figure" , it's that type of stupid delusion :crazy: .

[In the Drunk Tank]

Imo she was joking by playing up to the outraged prude that they were suggesting she was. I think Daniel was right in that sense that they often don't get her humour and when she's on the wind up

[pontyboi]

Imo she was joking by playing up to the outraged prude that they were suggesting she was. I think Daniel was right in that sense that they often don't get her humour and when she's on the wind up

So she's been playing this act for the past what?....40 odd years of not agreeing with homosexual rights? When she was in a serious position to influence people who were fighting for their rights to be accepted?

Why should some upper class politician have any right to judge the LGBTQ community. Ffs get someone impartial in its not rocket science.

Anyone saying Ann doesnt pass judgment on the gays are living under a rock.

[pontyboi]

If Ann is so homophobic why doesn't she also have a problem with Wayne ?

So if Wayne was to invite Ann to him marrying another man do you think she would attend seeing as she's already said she thinks a marriage is between a man and a woman.

She accepts Wayne more due to her speech about the house being more of an age issue.

Ann still doesn't agree with Wayne's lifestyle but then again she's not lived any sort of sexual life so she doesn't have a leg to stand on when judging people on their sexuality.

[In the Drunk Tank]

So she's been playing this act for the past what?....40 odd years of not agreeing with homosexual rights? When she was in a serious position to influence people who were fighting for their rights to be accepted?

Why should some upper class politician have any right to judge the LGBTQ community. Ffs get someone impartial in its not rocket science.

Anyone saying Ann doesnt pass judgment on the gays are living under a rock.

She has conservative views on it but that doesn't extend to openly shaming gay people and their lifestyle

[pontyboi]

She has conservative views on it but that doesn't extend to openly shaming gay people and their lifestyle

She openly said Shane and Andrew sleeping in the same bed was disgusting.

[In the Drunk Tank]

She openly said Shane and Andrew sleeping in the same bed was disgusting.

Yeah but like I said I thought she was joking playing up to the outraged reaction they expected

[Parmy]

She openly said Shane and Andrew sleeping in the same bed was disgusting.

Was it not the idea of shane and andrew moving into her room?

[Christmas Lights]

So if Wayne was to invite Ann to him marrying another man do you think she would attend seeing as she's already said she thinks a marriage is between a man and a woman.

She accepts Wayne more due to her speech about the house being more of an age issue.

Ann still doesn't agree with Wayne's lifestyle but then again she's not lived any sort of sexual life so she doesn't have a leg to stand on when judging people on their sexuality.

Ann isn't going to change her views for fear of backlash , would you rather she be fake then and pretend she's 100 % liberal ?? :bored: . she's not going to lie about her political views .


And she knew Andrew & Shane J were being attention seeking bitches .

[pontyboi]

Yeah but like I said I thought she was joking playing up to the outraged reaction they expected

Let's look at this as normal people yeah.

Ann has said a lot of ****ty things which are not entertaining and if they are meant to be the people defending the comments on her being some serious politician need to not ever vote ....ever again! Lol

It's like standing up for trump for his anti Mexican rants and other (in his words) **** hole countries is ok.

I'm all for free speech I'll express my opinions on this forum and respect others but I do think she belongs in a nunnery and if she's using the whole gay thing as a joke it's not cool and it's all for attention.

[pontyboi]

Was it not the idea of shane and andrew moving into her room?

Why does that matter? The question should be why she found that disgusting?

[Christmas Lights]

Why does that matter? The question should be why she found that disgusting?

Because Shane J & Andrew ARE disgusting :rant: full stop regardless of gender and sexuality !!! :facepalm: .

[pontyboi]

Because Shane J & Andrew ARE disgusting :rant: full stop regardless of gender and sexuality !!! :facepalm: .

I agree with you Andrew and Courtney are fake BUT Ann is speaking her truth that she finds 2 men together disgusting.

I'm not supporting either of them....especially Andrew who allways seems to look into the camera whenever him and Courtney are having a moment.

Why can't anyone just admit we are all right? Ann is homophobic and stuck in a very old fashion upbringing and Shane and Andrew are playing up to the cameras?

No fan of either is gonna win in this debate.

[poppsywoppsy]

If Ann was homophobic, why is her best friend in the house is Amanda.

Amanda doesn't or hasn't had to drape herself over anyone to prove she is Gay.

It is PDAs which Ann is finding not to her taste, only that.

[pontyboi]

If Ann was homophobic, why is her best friend in the house is Amanda.

Amanda doesn't or hasn't had to drape herself over anyone to prove she is Gay.

It is PDAs which Ann is finding not to her taste, only that.

I would agree if it wasn't for Ann being the position she was in for decades voting against gay rights.

I do love their friendship however....this is what makes big brother interesting.

[poppsywoppsy]

I would agree if it wasn't for Ann being the position she was in for decades voting against gay rights.

I do love their friendship however....this is what makes big brother interesting.

She is not voting about gay rights in the CBB house, she was commenting on what was being presented to her as a jibe.

Over analysis:shrug:

[Christmas Lights]

I would agree if it wasn't for Ann being the position she was in for decades voting against gay rights.

I do love their friendship however....this is what makes big brother interesting.

Ok let me ask you a question then .

If you didn't know Ann atall (let's imagine she's a nobody and not a well known MP) , with no background history or anything apart from her age and where she lives and her marital status . There's no other information about her.


And if you heard her still say Andrew & Shane J are disgusting (or whatever she said) then what would you think of Ann? .

[poppsywoppsy]

I would agree with her after their public displays of foreplay in the house, they both said they got aroused.

There are 12 people who have to put up with them horsing around.

I feel the same about Genuwine and Ashley too.

[Christmas Lights]

I would agree with her after their public displays of foreplay in the house, they both said they got aroused.

There are 12 people who have to put up with them horsing around.

I feel the same about Genuwine and Ashley too.

thankyou exactly :clap1:

[pontyboi]

She is not voting about gay rights in the CBB house, she was commenting on what was being presented to her as a jibe.

Over analysis:shrug:

No she was outright asked if she agreed if 2 men should be allowed to marry and she said NO.

"A marriage is between a man and a woman"

Are people just arguing on here for the sake of it because to me that's black and white.

[poppsywoppsy]

thankyou exactly :clap1:

I would add, what they did in private was their own business but I did not want to see it. Both couples. I don't even want to see it on TV.

[Christmas Lights]

I would add, what they did in private was their own business but I did not want to see it. Both couples. I don't even want to see it on TV.

That's why i stopped watching , i'm sick of them :bored: .

[poppsywoppsy]

No she was outright asked if she agreed if 2 men should be allowed to marry and she said NO.

"A marriage is between a man and a woman"

Are people just arguing on here for the sake of it because to me that's black and white.

It's a free country, it is her opinion and it is more down to religious teachings than anything else.

Go and have a word with the Pope.:conf:

[Christmas Lights]

It's a free country, it is her opinion and it is more down to religious teachings than anything else.

Go and have a word with the Pope.:conf:

And other religions have similar beliefs on that matter.
Everyone is different ,some are strict with their views and others are more open minded .

[pontyboi]

Ok let me ask you a question then .

If you didn't know Ann atall (let's imagine she's a nobody and not a well known MP) , with no background history or anything apart from her age and where she lives and her marital status . There's no other information about her.


And if you heard her still say Andrew & Shane J are disgusting (or whatever she said) then what would you think of Ann? .

First of all don't try and trip me up.

I would not be happy with anyone discriminating against any relationship.

What gives a person a right to think they have superiority over a relationship they deem unacceptable though?

It's just ****ing gross.

Everyone has a right to their opinion though as ive said time and time again and I'm glad this year bb has allowed housemates to speak their mind with ought warnings as its back to a social experiment.

I do wish Shane j would lower his balls back into his sack and give her an education in the fight the LGBTQ community has had to go through which she seems to have no concept of.....though it would be like talking to a brick.....bitch doesn't absourb any information pre 1970.

[poppsywoppsy]

First of all don't try and trip me up.

I would not be happy with anyone discriminating against any relationship.

What gives a person a right to think they have superiority over a relationship they deem unacceptable though?

It's just ****ing gross.

Everyone has a right to their opinion though as ive said time and time again and I'm glad this year bb has allowed housemates to speak their mind with ought warnings as its back to a social experiment.

I do wish Shane j would lower his balls back into his sack and give her an education in the fight the LGBTQ community has had to go through which she seems to have no concept of.....though it would be like talking to a brick.....bitch doesn't absourb any information pre 1970.


Sweeping generalities are not facts.

Ann could hold her own politically with anyone, even today's mealy mouthed lot.

That last paragraph does you no credit.

[pontyboi]

I would agree with her after their public displays of foreplay in the house, they both said they got aroused.

There are 12 people who have to put up with them horsing around.

I feel the same about Genuwine and Ashley too.

My god...2 single people horsing around?

We must alert the church elders!

[poppsywoppsy]

My god...2 single people horsing around?

We must alert the church elders!

What a cutting little remark, well done. :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2: if I agreed with you, we would both be wrong.

[Christmas Lights]

First of all don't try and trip me up.

I would not be happy with anyone discriminating against any relationship.

What gives a person a right to think they have superiority over a relationship they deem unacceptable though?

It's just ****ing gross.

Everyone has a right to their opinion though as ive said time and time again and I'm glad this year bb has allowed housemates to speak their mind with ought warnings as its back to a social experiment.

I do wish Shane j would lower his balls back into his sack and give her an education in the fight the LGBTQ community has had to go through which she seems to have no concept of.....though it would be like talking to a brick.....bitch doesn't absourb any information pre 1970.

I wasn't trying to trip you up :facepalm: .
It doesn't help the fact that Shane J is crap now at discussions , he just glares at the person and barely inputs anything constructive he's useless . it's ashame they didn't put in a better person or role model for his community .

He doesn't even act his age , it's baffling that a 35 year old can stalk someone and be sex creeping like a 16 year old teenager :bored: .

[jet]

Getting into a lather over a trivial throwaway remark from Ann in response to a trivial teasing remark from Shane J and Andrew is overkill. Every word that passes from the HM's mouths are over - analysed on here. It's all a bit silly really.

[pontyboi]

Sweeping generalities are not facts.

Ann could hold her own politically with anyone, even today's mealy mouthed lot.

That last paragraph does you no credit.

Ann only holds her own.....all she does is speak over anyone and that's how she was excepted in parliament because she could stand up to the men.

She's formed a habit and that's shown in the house when she's sided on the men's side constantly.

In regards to the gay issue she has no experience in that sector growing up under a strict rich upbringing and was taught to be a certain way....aka against gays being able to marry.

Ann has no experience of the real world outside her house, parliment full of testosterone and her cats.

It baffles me how someone with such little life experience could hold court for decades. I come from a small village in Wales and it's shocking how well balanced us sheep shaggers are over some private school educated woman who has no grip on the modern world.

Don't get me wrong we both agree she's a good housemate but I and most of the country never liked the woman.

Let's get **** real though we are debating over a politician who was thrown around the strictly come dancing floor, parachuted in also and is now on a channel 5 reality show.

[poppsywoppsy]

Here we go again, Ann retired from politics and only went on these TV shows afterwards.

So did Ed Balls, what is the problem, I don't have one.

Ann is still earning money, went on CBB because of the topic and she still gets moaned at.

By the way anywhere near Pontyclun? I went on holiday near there last year.

[pontyboi]

I wasn't trying to trip you up :facepalm: .
It doesn't help the fact that Shane J is crap now at discussions , he just glares at the person and barely inputs anything constructive he's useless . it's ashame they didn't put in a better person or role model for his community .

He doesn't even act his age , it's baffling that a 35 year old can stalk someone and be sex creeping like a 16 year old teenager :bored: .

Shane j is very articulate and very well educated in regards to this issue....way more than Ann is.

I agree with you though he has become like a lost little puppy and fallen for Andrew.

However when he tried to talk to Ann the bitch is so one sided he just gave up being talked over as would I because it was clear he would never get through to her.

[poppsywoppsy]

Shane j is very articulate and very well educated in regards to this issue....way more than Ann is.

I agree with you though he has become like a lost little puppy and fallen for Andrew.

However when he tried to talk to Ann the bitch is so one sided he just gave up being talked over as would I because it was clear he would never get through to her.

Sorry, he couldn't live in a discussion with her, she had an answer for everything, that's why he gave up. Then he just went into recline, no backbone.

[pontyboi]

Here we go again, Ann retired from politics and only went on these TV shows afterwards.

So did Ed Balls, what is the problem, I don't have one.

Ann is still earning money, went on CBB because of the topic and she still gets moaned at.

By the way anywhere near Pontyclun? I went on holiday near there last year.

Ed balls didn't call gays sleeping together disgusting but yes I agree he also made a tit of himself on national TV.

Look we both agree she's a cracking housemate yeah?

I'm from Pontlottyn a very very very small town in South wales....I fled as soon as I was 16!

[reece(:]

I didnt see the incident.

I still cant understand Ann popularity TBH. She does things then accuses people of doing the exact same things.
Because she's old and cooky

[JerseyWins]

Idk people... I think she was just disgusted by Andrew & Shane J specifically, which is an accurate feeling to have. :joker:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Did y'all just see that?

Andrew and Shane J walked into the kitchen and Shane jokingly said "Ann, even if you won't recognize our marriage, you have to recognize our love" and Ann replied with "that's disgusting".

Then, when Shane J, Andrew and Daniel were discussing what Ann said, Daniel said "We just don't get her humor!! Our grandparents were probably like that!"

Erm.. is that cracker being serious?

Not him defending Ann's homophobia :nono: And just because their grandparents were homophobic doesn't mean that it's okay for Ann to be homophobic.

We need to kick out Daniel & Ann during the next eviction :hehe:
She said : don't be so disgusting! Clearly referring to two men being in love. We all know how she feed about gay marriage, but there was no need for that comment.

[Ammi]

..Ann is an interesting one for sure...I don’t feel her views on certain things are old fashioned as such, in it being an age thing...but more for her, her religious beliefs...I mean, she hasn’t shown any intolerance toward Shane J for instance for who he is and his sexuality...but when he was provoking her for a reaction as he was, she wasn’t comfortable with that...he wasn’t actually showing her respect because the whole thing was purposefully done to prod and he has been someone who has always so far shown great respect and understanding, rather than to actively seek a reaction...I find her interesting because of that blend of her time in parliament and the things she has opposed and been in favour of and how that fits in with her religious beliefs...I guess that many would think that politics and religion shouldn’t ‘mix’..that there is no place for religion and religious beliefs in politics...?...but then wouldn’t that be showing an intolerance and a discrimination against religious beliefs...so it all gets quite complicated...

...she wasn’t comfortable with Shane’s prodding and teasing but she’s been perfectly comfortable with him as a person so far as I can see...and even said, she would be proud of him as a grandson...there’s lots of things I guess that she hasn’t seemed comfortable with...like Ashley and Ginuwine and their more ‘public displays’...probaby another blend of her beliefs in terms of their single status and what she feels should be more private and the new that old..not before marriage thing...as I say she’s interesting because of her own life of very much being a working and independent lady...but then she’s a single as well and always has been...with marrieds and mothers etc... she tends to lean more toward supporting that ‘stay at home mum’...obviously this is all...(..her beliefs and views..)...going to cause a bit of controversy and confliction and those talking points, but I like her a lot as a person and in her character, regardless of anything else...


..one thing I’ve found quite interesting is how much empathy and understanding she’s shown with things like...her upset at the guys in physical pain with that task..and then with Daniel and her being in favour of keeping him over John because she felt his need for ‘validation’ with the public...that shows a real empathy...but then she’s right wing so how does that work because those are character traits that the left leaning are meant to be more associated with...:laugh:...she has a great blend to her character, I think...and is probably the most interesting housemate I’ve ever known...

[Ammi]

..with sexual abuse within the Catholic religion...(sorry ive just read some of the thread...)...she’s not condoning that at all, I mean that just can’t be ‘excused’ by anyone for any reason or any belief system...she’s just separating the actions of some awful people..\..awful individuals who would abuse their power and position..from the religious beliefs of her faith and how she tries to practise it...

[bots]

As Andrew is not gay, how can she be being homophobic to him? She has always been respectful to everyone in the house, but expects to be treated the same way in return. Andrew and Shane J were NOT respectful to her. Is anyone calling out Shane J and Andrew for their ageist behaviour? Is anyone calling out Shane J and Andrew for their persecution of Ann for her views and her religious beliefs? Nope, they are not.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

As Andrew is not gay, how can she be being homophobic to him? She has always been respectful to everyone in the house, but expects to be treated the same way in return. Andrew and Shane J were NOT respectful to her. Is anyone calling out Shane J and Andrew for their ageist behaviour? Is anyone calling out Shane J and Andrew for their persecution of Ann for her views and her religious beliefs? Nope, they are not.

and she would have said the same if it had been Elgin and Ashley

Sadly if you red flag everything because you have a shiny new red flag the flag will get diluted and fade

One must pick ones battles

[Parmy]

Ann, homophobic..wtf...shes been on strictly and bb......facts say no.

[Parmy]

Why does that matter? The question should be why she found that disgusting?

Cause they make a lot of noise and stay up late...did you think it was incase they started bumming:joker::joker:

[joeysteele]

She said : don't be so disgusting! Clearly referring to two men being in love. We all know how she feed about gay marriage, but there was no need for that comment.

Exactly.

Again too,how does anyone on here KNOW for sure Andrew may not be gay or bisexual.

Inwardly who knows that but Andrew himself.
Ann knows for sure Shane J is,and she still said it.
I really hope people don't see 2 men who are in,forming or just exploring a relationship,as that being disgusting.

The Country is really heading back to a darker age if Ann's unnecessary comment is supported by anyone.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Exactly.

Again too,how does anyone on here KNOW for sure Andrew may not be gay or bisexual.

Inwardly who knows that but Andrew himself.
Ann knows for sure Shane J is,and she still said it.
I really hope people don't see 2 men who are in,forming or just exploring a relationship,as that being disgusting.

The Country is really heading back to a darker age if Ann's unnecessary comment is supported by anyone.

And you know that she meant anything other than "your public display of affection in our faces" how?

and also it was said in jest, unless you have proof that it was serious?


please asnwer bother questions below to support you case:

[HBB1508]

Pretty sure Ann does not like PDA's whether gay or straight, she would have had a similar reaction to Ashley and G and if she said it them no one would bat an eyelid

Totally agree and if I were Ann in there I wouldn't want their fake romance shoved in my face every five minutes and they are only doing it to get a rise out of her so they can go off and bitch in the garden. I am in agreement with Ann what people do behind closed doors is totally up to them but I don't want it shoved in my face all the time.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

They did it to wind her up and for her and she gave them the reaction they wanted

Its like people are watching this waiting to be outraged

:bored:

[Cherry Christmas]

Regarding the bed situation, she doesn't want them in the room as they stay up late, and the lights will stay on, again it was only suggested they go in the "early" bedroom to get a rise out of her, all these people demanding respect and treating an elderly woman like that, the solution to the lights staying on was sorted by putting the people who went to bed early in one room, there is no reason for that to change

[joeysteele]

And you know that she meant anything other than "your public display of affection in our faces" how?

and also it was said in jest, unless you have proof that it was serious?


please asnwer bother questions below to support you case:

She's the one on TV not me.
You know for sure too,it was in jest do you too.

I think not.

Knowing her deep rooted dubious views on lgbt rights all through her life and career,I doubt it was totally I'm jest.

That's what I think from what I've learned as to Ann.
What you think is your affair.
If you think I'm not right,there is equally no guarantee either that you are.

Ann has a record against lgbt rights moving forward,that's one solid fact however,mainly from the bigotry of her rigid Roman catholic religious views.

[bots]

She's the one on TV not me.
You know for sure too,it was in jest do you too.

I think not.

Knowing her deep rooted dubious views on lgbt rights all through her life and career,I doubt it was totally I'm jest.

That's what I think from what I've learned as to Ann.
What you think is your affair.
If you think I'm not right,there is equally no guarantee either that you are.

Ann has a record against lgbt rights moving forward,that's one solid fact however,mainly from the bigotry of her rigid Roman catholic religious views.

and she is entitled to hold her religious views without being called a bigot, because doing that is persecution in itself

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

Sadly, have to agree with those who see the homophobia sort of rearing it's ugly head here. Of course, even as an Ann supporter I know that her views are rooted in her Catholic background. You can't be Catholic and divorce those very specific values from your faith simply because they are inconvenient or controversial. If she stands for her faith, then that's where she stands on the issue(s) and I think kinda naive to try to give her a pass on that simply because of her other more virtuous (if not pious) qualities...

I don't know that Ann even sees the harm in what she has said. She may very well have been joking or referring to something more indifferent, but then there's the something to be said about there being a grain of truth in every joke or having a Freudian slip.

She has been quite open about her controversial beliefs about these issues, so I think rather than trying to craft a protective barrier around what she may or may not actually have meant (which I don't know that any of us really know), ask yourself if it is even possible she may not even care how it is interpreted... she doesn't seem to shy away from discourse/controversy on any subject, even if it offends others, so I think instead of trying to make out what she said, maybe consider she is not all that concerned about whether it sends a more negative tone about homosexuality...

I hope she is interviewed on it when she is out, because I'm curious how she deals with the cognitive dissonance that her beliefs no doubt create in this type of atmosphere (with Andrew/Courtney). Especially with her relationship with Amanda. But I think also really unfair to judge any one person entirely based on their opinions on a single issue... unless of course that goes against something you are rather (non-literally) religiously against.. but then you know, we are in a world where we are surrounded by conflicting belief systems... it's fine to pick and choose with strangers on the internet, but much more difficult out in real life to discriminate and screen barriers in a similar manner.. but I guess we live in a society now where that sort of discrimination really is actually the new normal, that we are all being "screened" for perceived slights or incompatible thought systems... Ann didn't grow up in that kind of world. She grew up in a society where we were encouraged to get on regardless in what was considered quite tolerant for those times, even while believing most others were terrible sinners. So other people's moral fixations on the particular words or verbiage she uses is probably all quite ambivalent and alien to her (in retrospect)

Anyway, just some mild rambling at no one in particular.

[The Grinch]

I thought she was joking.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Shane said what he said in a jokey way. He wasn't trying provoke Ann. This is why he was shocked at her response. And so was I. It was unnecessary.

[The Grinch]

Shane said what he said in a jokey way. He wasn't trying provoke Ann. This is why he was shocked at her response. And so was I. It was unnecessary.

Maybe she meant disgusting to those two, not all gays.

[Kazanne]

Ann's homophobic, a large member of TiBB members are gay - I think the hate Ann receives is pretty f'n justifiable.


NO, it f'n isn't ,you label her that as it suits the agenda to get people to dislike her,I doubt very much you know much about this lady at all , have you actually listened about what she said about gay marriage ? or are you just enjoying bashing someone you really know nothing about.or is it just because she is a Tory?

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

Shane said what he said in a jokey way. He wasn't trying provoke Ann. This is why he was shocked at her response. And so was I. It was unnecessary.

My feeling is they were trying to get her to relax a little bit, see them as simple down-to-earth human beings, and less like zoo animals trying to fornicate all over the house. :laugh: I'm not so sure they are the characters suited to this quite difficult task of changing Ann's mind on homosexuality...

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Maybe she meant disgusting to those two, not all gays.

I don't think so. She said it when Shane mentioned the love between two men?

[The Grinch]

NO, it f'n isn't ,you label her that as it suits the agenda to get people to dislike her,I doubt very much you know much about this lady at all , have you actually listened about what she said about gay marriage ? or are you just enjoying bashing someone you really know nothing about.or is it just because she is a Tory?

:worship::cheer:

[The Grinch]

I don't think so. She said it when Shane mentioned the love between two men?

I feel she meant those two.

[Kazanne]

Shane said what he said in a jokey way. He wasn't trying provoke Ann. This is why he was shocked at her response. And so was I. It was unnecessary.

I really cant do with people who refuse to see the bigger picture, there was NO way Ann said that in regards to them being gay,it was Shane saying she could WATCH their love grow,now you might find that entertaining, but some people don't,it was as simple as that,why do people make mountains out of molehills just to make their fave look good.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

My feeling is they were trying to get her to relax a little bit, see them as simple down-to-earth human beings, and less like zoo animals trying to fornicate all over the house. :laugh: I'm not so sure they are the characters suited to this quite difficult task of changing Ann's mind on homosexuality...

Shane was just referring to the love him and Andrew share. How close they are, I think. But Ann thinks it's wrong.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I feel she meant those two.

I think she's disgusted by the idea that two men can be in love.

[chuff me dizzy]

Totally agree and if I were Ann in there I wouldn't want their fake romance shoved in my face every five minutes and they are only doing it to get a rise out of her so they can go off and bitch in the garden. I am in agreement with Ann what people do behind closed doors is totally up to them but I don't want it shoved in my face all the time.

:clap1:

[The Grinch]

The Ann hate is real.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Somehow Ann seems more accepting of Amanda, who is also gay. Maybe because she's a woman?

[The Grinch]

I think she's disgusted by the idea that two men can be in love.

I disagree.

[Kazanne]

Shane was just referring to the love him and Andrew share. How close they are, I think. But Ann thinks it's wrong.

WRONG again,Ann has already said in the house that what people do in their own house is up to them,she just objects to it being flaunted in her face,lots of people don't like PDAs why should she?

[The Grinch]

I hate people snogging in my face too.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I disagree.

This is what she meant, otherwise she would have told them straight that she thinks it's fake.

[Kazanne]

The Ann hate is real.

It's ridiculous,people reading things into everything she says waiting for that slight thing to bash her with, maybe she is a bigger threat than we thought:wavey:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I disagree.

I hate people snogging in my face too.

But they aren't snogging? They just cuddled?

[Alf]

Whatever word you're looking for, Homophobia is not the word.

A phobia means a fear, she doesn't fear gay people as she's not uncomfortable to be around them.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Whatever word you're looking for, Homophobia is not the word.

A phobia means a fear, she doesn't fear gay people as she's not uncomfortable to be around them.

She's against gay people.

[Ellen]

Maybe she meant disgusting to those two, not all gays.

This^^^^^
She has also said the same to Ashley about her & Geniwine. It was said to get a response and it did. It is obvious anyone who doesnt like her will jump on it as Homophobia rather than her not wanting to see or hear them slurping under the duvet!

[Gusto Brunt]

Daniel should win the Oscar. He's pulling the wool over most people's eyes.

But not me.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Daniel should win the Oscar. He's pulling the wool over most people's eyes.

But not me.

I can't believe the housemates don't see through him.

[The Grinch]

It's ridiculous,people reading things into everything she says waiting for that slight thing to bash her with, maybe she is a bigger threat than we thought:wavey:

Yeah, I like Ann and think she is getting thrown to the wolves.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

She's against gay people.

she voted against gay marriage but that is about the sanctity of marriage according to her Catholicism

that does not mean the same thing

[The Grinch]

I can't believe the housemates don't see through him.

He is so ugh.

[Alf]

She's against gay people.Does she have a fear of them?

Does she fear Amanda, Wayne and Shane or any of the gay people she worked with in her career?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

she voted against gay marriage but that is about the sanctity of marriage according to her Catholicism

that does not mean the same thing

Agreed. But her views quite frankly make me uncomfortable. Even if I think she's a great housemate.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Does she have a fear of them?

Does she fear Amanda, Wayne and Shane or any of the gay people she worked with in her career?

I think it's more that she's against gay marriage.

[The Grinch]

I think it's more that she's against gay marriage.

This I agree on.

[Kazanne]

She's against gay people.

No she isn't,she mingles with Ann and Wayne with no problem, but there again they don't antagonise her do they,oh and did you pick up that WAYNE also repeated what Ann said !!!!! so it wasn't said against gays at all,but I doubt that fact will change anything.

[Kazanne]

This I agree on.

Yes I can understand that one,but no way in this convo was she on about those two being gay,as Andrew reckons he isn't anyway:shrug:

[The Grinch]

Yes I can understand that one,but no way in this convo was she on about those two being gay,as Andrew reckons he isn't anyway:shrug:

Agreed. Wayne was fine so it wasn't towards gay people.

[Alf]

I think it's more that she's against gay marriage.Milo Yiannopolous is gay, he's in a gay marriage and he's against gay marriage.

Work that one out

[chuff me dizzy]

No she isn't,she mingles with Ann and Wayne with no problem, but there again they don't antagonise her do they,oh and did you pick up that WAYNE also repeated what Ann said !!!!! so it wasn't said against gays at all,but I doubt that fact wont change anything.

:clap1: She is closest to Amanda in there would she do that if her " phobia" was massive ,like you said earlier Ann is a bigger threat than even we thought

[bots]

:clap1: She is closest to Amanda in there would she do that if her " phobia" was massive ,like you said earlier Ann is a bigger threat than even we thought

Exactly, Amanda is gay and is Ann's best friend in there

[Nancy.]

Oh stop taking things so seriously, they said it purposely to annoy Ann,they disgust me too because they are just plain nasty especially Andrew, who wants to watch them in love.

:clap1:

Just caught up on last nights show and yep, that's certainly how it appeared to me.

[Cherry Christmas]

Shane said what he said in a jokey way. He wasn't trying provoke Ann. This is why he was shocked at her response. And so was I. It was unnecessary.

so if what he said was jokey, so why is her response deemed to be serious? he knows her views so why ask her, why not just leave her to it, he was looking for a reaction and he got it.

[Kazanne]

I want to know why Wayne also saying it was 'disgusting' has been ignored on here and just Ann is the focus ?

[Kazanne]

so if what he said was jokey, so why is her response deemed to be serious? he knows her views so why ask her, why not just leave her to it, he was looking for a reaction and he got it.

Tbh,I kinda got the vibe she said it tongue and cheek,how dare she.:hehe:

[Cherry Christmas]

She's against gay people.

that must be why she is big mates with Amanda :umm2: she is against gay marriage which is a completely different thing and is associated with her religion unless you think it is okay to religiously discriminate against her?

she has said numerous times she doesn't care what people do behind closed doors

[Livia]

Ageism isn't a thing on here because young people think they're going to be young forever!

And you're not!

And when you're Ann's age, there will be a whole new bunch of young people telling YOU that you're out of touch.

The circle of life...

[Cherry Christmas]

Ageism isn't a thing on here because young people think they're going to be young forever!

And you're not!

And when you're Ann's age, there will be a whole new bunch of young people telling YOU that you're out of touch.

The circle of life...

:clap2:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

so if what he said was jokey, so why is her response deemed to be serious? he knows her views so why ask her, why not just leave her to it, he was looking for a reaction and he got it.

I think he was just joking. He certainly didn't say it to upset Ann on purpose.

[Lilac hills]

I think he was just joking. He certainly didn't say it to upset Ann on purpose.

He said it to piss her off then incriminated her in the garden and changed the narrative alltogether, getting his manipulative ways from his ‘lover’

[Kazanne]

I think he was just joking. He certainly didn't say it to upset Ann on purpose.

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[Santa's NaughtiNess]

He said it to piss her off then incriminated her in the garden and changed the narrative alltogether, getting his manipulative ways from his ‘lover’

I disagree.

[Ellen]

He said it to piss her off then incriminated her in the garden and changed the narrative alltogether, getting his manipulative ways from his ‘lover’

Agree with this, it was done on purpose for a reaction.

[Nancy.]

If Ann is so homophobic why doesn't she also have a problem with Wayne ?

:clap1: Yes, people are forgetting she's on friendly terms with Wayne. Ann doesn't have an issue with gay people in general, what she does have a problem with are those who hug, kiss and grope and shove it in her face because they know it makes her feel uncomfortable. I don't particularly enjoy seeing two people do that in front of me either (gay or straight). Their sexual preference has bugger all to do with it.

[The Grinch]

I think he was just joking. He certainly didn't say it to upset Ann on purpose.

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[The Grinch]

:clap1: Yes, people are forgetting she's on friendly terms with Wayne. Ann doesn't have an issue with gay people in general, what she does have a problem with are those who hug, kiss and grope and shove it in her face because they know it makes her feel uncomfortable. I don't particularly enjoy seeing two people do that in front of me either (gay or straight). Their sexual preference has bugger all to do with it.

Agree Nancy.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

so if what he said was jokey, so why is her response deemed to be serious? he knows her views so why ask her, why not just leave her to it, he was looking for a reaction and he got it.

Exactly. He wouldn't have asked the question if he wasn't looking for some type of response. I can see where she may have felt compelled to stick to her guns, hence the blatant "uh no disgusting" to get the message across she stood pretty strongly on those views. Afterall, decorum (Ann's version of it) and her reputation to her is paramount back home. I thought maybe his intention was to get a middle of the road response, to see if he could "crack" her to get her to come to some common ground on her generally staunch viewpoints... but instead it made her look terrible, which was probably fine for him because that was Plan B, to get her to say something to lose votes with the public instead.

However she reacted, it was more than likely going to be perceived as a win for ShaneJ/Courtney.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

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That is my opinion. We will have to agree to disagree on that.

[bots]

As Ann is the new favourite to win, it's pretty clear a lot of people support her

[jaxie]

I think he was just joking. He certainly didn't say it to upset Ann on purpose.

He wasn't joking, he was provoking.

I think a lot of people are confusing her religious views on marriage being for man and woman and the procreation of children to genuine hate for gay people and I think this is extremely misguided and on this thread is verging on hysteria. If you have a problem with her views, go wave your banners at the pope. It's a taught doctrine and that's the man with the power to change the church. There is quite a list of other things you could take up with him while you are there.

If she was genuinely homophobic she wouldn't like Shane J as much as she does or want to interact with him. That doesn't mean that she has to put up with their little games and thrusting a potential relationship in her face to try to cause a reaction.

I'm not homophobic but I'm not particularly interested in watching two men have sex, kiss or canoodle, or anyone else for that matter. :shrug:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

This misinformed backlash will help Ann and bolster her support

The watching women of Felis silvestris catus are now firmly behind her according to Ryland on BOTS


she is going to walk in a slanted, halting fashion all the way to victory


:clap1:

[Cherry Christmas]

This misinformed backlash will help Ann and bolster her support

The watching women of Felis silvestris catus are now firmly behind her according to Ryland on BOTS


she is going to walk in a slanted, halting fashion all the way to victory


:clap1:

:laugh2:

[odd sock]

If Ann is so homophobic why doesn't she also have a problem with Wayne ? or Amanda.

[Kazanne]

This misinformed backlash will help Ann and bolster her support

The watching women of Felis silvestris catus are now firmly behind her according to Ryland on BOTS


she is going to walk in a slanted, halting fashion all the way to victory


:clap1:

Aw,bless her :joker::joker:

[The Grinch]

Ann got a boost? Exciting.

[joeysteele]

It really is worrying to see a homophobic comment on here getting such acclaim.and support.
I'll leave you to it but it's an education albeit a really bad and worrying one.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

It really is worrying to see a homophobic comment on here getting such acclaim.and support.
I'll leave you to it but it's an education albeit a really bad and worrying one.

I agree. I like Ann ans she's a great housemate. But I thought her comments were unnecessary.

[rph]

It really is worrying to see a homophobic comment on here getting such acclaim.and support.
I'll leave you to it but it's an education albeit a really bad and worrying one.

Agreed

Im still pissed Big Brother hasnt given her any formal warnings regarding her language in the house , people have been ejected over less too

Why is she getting all the favourtism? - she is a terrible person to win person of the year too

[Kazanne]

It really is worrying to see a homophobic comment on here getting such acclaim.and support.
I'll leave you to it but it's an education albeit a really bad and worrying one.

So why has no one responded to the fact Wayne said it aswell,this seems to be conveniently overlooked:shrug:

[Livia]

Agreed

Im still pissed Big Brother hasnt given her any formal warnings regarding her language in the house , people have been ejected over less too

Why is she getting all the favourtism? - she is a terrible person to win person of the year too

No one's ever been ejected for blatant ageism either. And yet it's ALLLLL over the house.

[Robodog]

No one's ever been ejected for blatant ageism either. And yet it's ALLLLL over the house.

True say

Selective outrage once again

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Agreed

Im still pissed Big Brother hasnt given her any formal warnings regarding her language in the house , people have been ejected over less too

Why is she getting all the favourtism? - she is a terrible person to win person of the year too

which people and for what?

[Kazanne]

She said : don't be so disgusting! Clearly referring to two men being in love. We all know how she feed about gay marriage, but there was no need for that comment.

NO she didn't why are people adding words she AND Wayne said 'That's disgusting' just sayin':fist: so nothing is CLEAR ,she doesn't like public displays and neither do a lot of people.

[bots]

what people should realise by now is that Ann says what she does because she believes in it with conviction. She was asked in the house about her views on gay marriage and also about what she thought of homosexuality in general. She gave very clear answers to both. She said she believed in the sanctity of marriage between a man and a women, but everything else was fine in the PRIVACY of their own homes . Everyone who saw that episode completely understood what she meant and where she was coming from, from her religious background. Nothing has changed from that statement that she made

[Kazanne]

what people should realise by now is that Ann says what she does because she believes in it with conviction. She was asked in the house about her views on gay marriage and also about what she thought of homosexuality in general. She gave very clear answers to both. She said she believed in the sanctity of marriage between a man and a women, but everything else was fine in the PRIVACY of their own homes . Everyone who saw that episode completely understood what she meant and where she was coming from, from her religious background. Nothing has changed from that statement that she made

:clap1::clap1:

[Paula D]

So if Wayne was to invite Ann to him marrying another man do you think she would attend seeing as she's already said she thinks a marriage is between a man and a woman.

She accepts Wayne more due to her speech about the house being more of an age issue.

Ann still doesn't agree with Wayne's lifestyle but then again she's not lived any sort of sexual life so she doesn't have a leg to stand on when judging people on their sexuality.

I'll give you a question right back, if Ann was invited to a gay wedding do you think she should HAVE to attend?

WTF is the world coming to seriously?

This constant trying to force people to change their views is so sickening.

[Northern Monkey]

Well firstly.Complaining about homophobia while adding a racist slur in the op isn’t a good start.

Ann’s closest ally in there is a lesbian,She has a decent relationship with Wayne too.She doesn’t dislike them because of their sexuality.
Maybe she just doesn’t want it thrust in her face?
She never said ‘urgh two men disgusting’ either.As has been said she doesn’t like seeing or hearing PDA’s from anyone.She also left the room when people were disgussing kids.
Is she kidophobic too?
Her views on the sanctity of marriage are religious.She never said that nobody should be allowed to be gay.
Many people don’t like watching PDA’s including me.Nothing wrong with that.
Plus as has been said Shane said that for a reaction,Got one and then moaned in the garden to make Ann look bad.He obvs sees her as competition.

[Kazanne]

Well firstly.Complaining about homophobia while adding a racist slur in the op isn’t a good start.

Ann’s closest ally in there is a lesbian,She has a decent relationship with Wayne too.She doesn’t dislike them because of their sexuality.
Maybe she just doesn’t want it thrust in her face?
She never said ‘urgh two men disgusting’ either.As has been said she doesn’t like seeing or hearing PDA’s from anyone.She also left the room when people were disgussing kids.
Is she kidophobic too?
Her views on the sanctity of marriage are religious.She never said that nobody should be allowed to be gay.
Many people don’t like watching PDA’s including me.Nothing wrong with that.
Plus as has been said Shane said that for a reaction,Got one and then moaned in the garden to make Ann look bad.He obvs sees her as competition.

:clap1::clap1:

[Paula D]

I'm suddenly reminded of why I end up giving up on this forum every year, it's ridiculous the hysteria on here.

Let me try to explain from a grown ups point of view:

We would often try to wind my mother up by talking about sex and she'll scream at us "that is disgusting", we laugh at her and that's the end of the matter.

That's the way she was brought up, full stop, I don't expect her to change and neither should I. Considering I've never even seen my Mam and Dad holding hands and I know they're not comfortable with people hugging, kissing, touching etc. in public I simply wouldn't subject them to it.

That's the way they feel. I'm not going change their views and I don't want to.

Some people need to grow up and stop getting so stressed out in life because others have different views to them.

It's really doing no good for the LGBTQ cause to be constantly hysterical.

[odd sock]

It's really doing no good for the LGBTQ cause to be constantly hysterical.
:clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Well firstly.Complaining about homophobia while adding a racist slur in the op isn’t a good start.

Ann’s closest ally in there is a lesbian,She has a decent relationship with Wayne too.She doesn’t dislike them because of their sexuality.
Maybe she just doesn’t want it thrust in her face?
She never said ‘urgh two men disgusting’ either.As has been said she doesn’t like seeing or hearing PDA’s from anyone.She also left the room when people were disgussing kids.
Is she kidophobic too?
Her views on the sanctity of marriage are religious.She never said that nobody should be allowed to be gay.
Many people don’t like watching PDA’s including me.Nothing wrong with that.
Plus as has been said Shane said that for a reaction,Got one and then moaned in the garden to make Ann look bad.He obvs sees her as competition.

:worship: A woman of morals that should be applauded not hated

[Kazanne]

I'm suddenly reminded of why I end up giving up on this forum every year, it's ridiculous the hysteria on here.

Let me try to explain from a grown ups point of view:

We would often try to wind my mother up by talking about sex and she'll scream at us "that is disgusting", we laugh at her and that's the end of the matter.

That's the way she was brought up, full stop, I don't expect her to change and neither should I. Considering I've never even seen my Mam and Dad holding hands and I know they're not comfortable with people hugging, kissing, touching etc. in public I simply wouldn't subject them to it.

That's the way they feel. I'm not going change their views and I don't want to.

Some people need to grow up and stop getting so stressed out in life because others have different views to them.

It's really doing no good for the LGBTQ cause to be constantly hysterical.

:clap1:

[Candy Annie Cane]

Well firstly.Complaining about homophobia while adding a racist slur in the op isn’t a good start.

Ann’s closest ally in there is a lesbian,She has a decent relationship with Wayne too.She doesn’t dislike them because of their sexuality.
Maybe she just doesn’t want it thrust in her face?
She never said ‘urgh two men disgusting’ either.As has been said she doesn’t like seeing or hearing PDA’s from anyone.She also left the room when people were disgussing kids.
Is she kidophobic too?
Her views on the sanctity of marriage are religious.She never said that nobody should be allowed to be gay.
Many people don’t like watching PDA’s including me.Nothing wrong with that.
Plus as has been said Shane said that for a reaction,Got one and then moaned in the garden to make Ann look bad.He obvs sees her as competition.

Completely agree with this. Surprised, that has been allowed to stay to be honest, it certainly wouldn't had it been any other racial slur

[ChristmasNeeve]

I actually totally missed that ^ Why didn't either of you report it instead of complaining that it hasn't been removed :nono:

[bots]

I actually totally missed that ^ Why didn't either of you report it instead of complaining that it hasn't been removed :nono:

how did it get past your radar in particular :fist:

[ChristmasNeeve]

how did it get past your radar in particular :fist:

tbh I just read the title to get the gist :fan:

[Candy Annie Cane]

I actually totally missed that ^ Why didn't either of you report it instead of complaining that it hasn't been removed :nono:

Wasn't complaining it hadn't been removed Niamh, simply commenting that I was surprised it hadn't been and NM was simply saying that a racially aggravated statement was not particularly helpful when opening a thread about homophobia. :shrug:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Wasn't complaining it hadn't been removed Niamh, simply commenting that I was surprised it hadn't been and NM was simply saying that a racially aggravated statement was not particularly helpful when opening a thread about homophobia. :shrug:

You said you were surprised that it had been allowed to stay, that kind of implies that we looked at it and said "nah that's grand, that can stay". If you had reported it and it was still there than maybe you'd have a point, nobody reported it though and I never saw it :oh:

[Candy Annie Cane]

You said you were surprised that it had been allowed to stay, that kind of implies that we looked at it and said "nah that's grand, that can stay". If you had reported it and it was still there than maybe you'd have a point, nobody reported it though and I never saw it :oh:

I've never reported a post i don't think Niamh and in all honesty I only noticed it when NM mentioned it too but was surprised it had managed to stay all that time and not been removed or commented on by anyone else - any other slur would have been jumped all over by people. I wasn't implying anything, least of all that mods had ignored it. Jeez, feel like I'm in school being told off here :laugh:

[ChristmasNeeve]

I've never reported a post i don't think Niamh and in all honesty I only noticed it when NM mentioned it too but was surprised it had managed to stay all that time and not been removed or commented on by anyone else - any other slur would have been jumped all over by people. I wasn't implying anything, least of all that mods had ignored it. Jeez, feel like I'm in school being told off here :laugh:

I'm sorry, it's just annoying when people complain that we ignore stuff or allow things to stay when they've not even reported it in the first place (not saying you were saying that just in general because it does happen alot)

[Livia]

Gonna need you two to shake hands now.

[bots]

I'm sorry, it's just annoying when people complain that we ignore stuff or allow things to stay when they've not even reported it in the first place (not saying you were saying that just in general because it does happen alot)

i thought mods were omnipotent :think:

[Candy Annie Cane]

Gonna need you two to shake hands now.

:laugh:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

well I asked for the thread to be closed

:hmph:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Gonna need you two to shake hands now.

:hehe:

[joeysteele]

So why has no one responded to the fact Wayne said it aswell,this seems to be conveniently overlooked:shrug:

Avoid the point I put all you like Kazanne.
For me it stands.

I also have in fact stated I disagree with Wayne too so hardly bo one responding.

Ann's response was to a direct question to her.


You support her homophobic comment all you like.
I for one never will and I'm glad I wouldn't too.

[Kazanne]

Avoid the point I put all you like Kazanne.
For me it stands.

I also have in fact stated I disagree with Wayne too so hardly bo one responding.

Ann's response was to a direct question to her.


You support her homophobic comment all you like.
I for one never will and I'm glad I wouldn't too.

I support her right to not want PDAs pointed at her,and her right to tell them,Joey you can read into that what you want but I still say she was not against it because they are both men, I will dig my heels in here,sorry.

[chuff me dizzy]

I support her right to not want PDAs pointed at her,and her right to tell them,Joey you can read into that what you want but I still say she was not against it because they are both men, I will dig my heels in here,sorry.

Totally agree Kazanne

[Parmy]

One comment, milk it, milk it.

Ok andrew...i'll get the blonde wig.

[Paula D]

What the hell did I miss? I didn't see any racist slur?

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[chuff me dizzy]

What the hell did I miss? I didn't see any racist slur?

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Neither did I but Hey ho as they say :joker:

[Christmas Lights]

and one could say the same about all the reactions to ann here

:clap1:
Even a racist slur she got :shocked:

[Christmas Lights]

Neither did I but Hey ho as they say :joker:

The OP called Ann a "cracker" :facepalm:

[chuff me dizzy]

The OP called Ann a "cracker" :facepalm:

Whats one of them ?

[Christmas Lights]

Whats one of them ?

:shocked: You being serious ?? .

It's a racist slur towards white people , it's from slavery times when slave owners "cracked" the whip hence the nickname they got called "cracker" .

[Candy Annie Cane]

Whats one of them ?

Basically it now translates to "white trash" although the OP was directing it at Daniel for defending ann and not ann herself

[Alf]

Whats one of them ?You put cheese on it.

Either that or it's a Robbie Coltrane lookalike.

[Paula D]

That is hilarious! Makes a mockery of the whole thread, I love It!

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[Paula D]

I hear we're racist now Ted.

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[joeysteele]

I support her right to not want PDAs pointed at her,and her right to tell them,Joey you can read into that what you want but I still say she was not against it because they are both men, I will dig my heels in here,sorry.

Good for you then,says a lot.

Just remember the long battle gay people had to be treated equally with none of the snide comments people enjoyed making about them.
Then look up Ann's voting record inin parliament on lgbt rights,you'll find her actually voting against near every improvement of their rights.

Ah well,there it is, I know I will always want to and will call out anyone I know,family,friends or foes as to any slur on gay issues.

[chuff me dizzy]

:shocked: You being serious ?? .

It's a racist slur towards white people , it's from slavery times when slave owners "cracked" the whip hence the nickname they got called "cracker" .

Seriously ? and they've not been perma banned ? Ive never heard it before, but to know someone on here called an OAP one doesn't shock me Im sad to say

[chuff me dizzy]

You put cheese on it.

Either that or it's a Robbie Coltrane lookalike.

Thats the only one I had heard of along with the Xmas ones

[Christmas Lights]

Seriously ? and they've not been perma banned ? Ive never heard it before, but to know someone on here called an OAP one doesn't shock me Im sad to say

I guess on this forum insults like that get let off and slide by :bored: .

It's not a nice thing to call somebody especially when it contradicts the post about prejudice in the first place :joker: .

[Parmy]

I think im a bit slow
..wtfs going on.

Ive got loads of cheesiness for the crackers but am not sure what flavour they are.

[chuff me dizzy]

I guess on this forum insults like that get let off and slide by :bored: .

It's not a nice thing to call somebody especially when it contradicts the post about prejudice in the first place :joker: .

Im disgusted

[jaxie]

You put cheese on it.

Either that or it's a Robbie Coltrane lookalike.

:laugh:

[Paula D]

Seriously ? and they've not been perma banned ? Ive never heard it before, but to know someone on here called an OAP one doesn't shock me Im sad to sayI agree. If the post referred to someone as the n word it would have been an immediate ban.

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[chuff me dizzy]

I agree. If the post referred to someone as the n word it would have been an immediate ban.

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Dead right it would !! Double standards !!

[Withano]

I mean, considering you two didn't know that cracker could be used as a racial slur, its quite likely that the OP didnt know either.