Question re Ann

[chuff me dizzy]

A simple question for all the closed minded ,woe is me folk ........ If Ann is as homophobic as you claim she is, why did she when she had the chair in the nominations around the table be the 1st person to say she didn't want to choose Shane J to be up (And please don't say she wasn't the 1st to save him because I've rewound it and watched and she was ) Surely if she was SO anti gays why did she do this ,why didn't she see this as he chance to dump him ? why did she also choose to save Wayne who also ( though its forgotten on here ) happens to be gay and Ive never seen Ann say a bad word against him only that he's loud
Answer ...... Because she knows Shane and Andrew are goading her into a reaction she's far too clever to give them ,she has a brain they will never in their lifetimes be able to compete with and she can put them both down together in an heartbeat like she did tonight ,and leave them stood there with their arms around each other looking bloody stupid ,sending them into the garden to stick the knife in her behind her back

[Jase.]

"If Ann is as homophobic as you claim"

It's a well known fact that Ann Widdicombe is homophobic :laugh2:

For the uneducated, all you need to do is read the following article -

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/01/03/celebrity-big-brother-2018-ann-widdecombes-shocking-views-on-gay-and-transgender-people/

You're welcome!!

[Parmy]

She was obviously playing up to everyone having a laugh with her chuff...let the haters hate...shes walking this.

[chuff me dizzy]

She was obviously playing up to everyone having a laugh with her chuff...let the haters hate...shes walking this.

She knew the game the desperate camera hoggers were playing and ate them up and spat them both out

[chuff me dizzy]

"If Ann is as homophobic as you claim"

It's a well known fact that Ann Widdicombe is homophobic :laugh2:

For the uneducated, all you need to do is read the following article -

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/01/03/celebrity-big-brother-2018-ann-widdecombes-shocking-views-on-gay-and-transgender-people/

You're welcome!!

I wont open your link,but thanks for the offer :flowers: and who's "Fact" is this ? its certainly not mine

[smudgie]

Yeah, she is so against gay sex that she fought for condoms for male prisoners.
She has said herself, she is against gay marriage, but not living together, it is the sacrament of marriage she wants to uphold due to her religious upbringing.

[Jase.]

I wont open your link,but thanks for the offer :flowers: and who's "Fact" is this ? its certainly not mine

Read the article and you'll receive the facts/confirmation you need on the revolting bitch being a homophobe?

[pontyboi]

Because Ann is a politician and knows what gets votes.

She's said on several occasions how uncomfortable she is with men not being real men and to use the word DISGUSTING if Shane j and Andrew shared a bed is unacceptable....how can you defend that? And don't bring her age into it....it's not age it's being brought up in a family who showed no emotion she is a frigging political robot.

I can't take this woman seriously anymore after her conversation with Amanda talking about how these youngsters were on the reality show to get fame with no talent......ANN YOURE ON THE SAME REALITY SHOW!

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah, she is so against gay sex that she fought for condoms for male prisoners.
She has said herself, she is against gay marriage, but not living together, it is the sacrament of marriage she wants to uphold due to her religious upbringing.

Exactly Smudgie and she had the chair last night and in both cases saved 2 gay men ... I rest my case .............. Next !!!

[Parmy]

"If Ann is as homophobic as you claim"

It's a well known fact that Ann Widdicombe is homophobic :laugh2:

For the uneducated, all you need to do is read the following article -

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/01/03/celebrity-big-brother-2018-ann-widdecombes-shocking-views-on-gay-and-transgender-people/

You're welcome!!

So she voted 6 times in the votes the pink news find worthy enough to print...first in 2098..last ten years ago in 2007..and now because she was joking around her past comes back to haunt her.

[Jase.]

Exactly Smudgie and she had the chair last night and in both cases saved 2 gay men ... I rest my case .............. Next !!!

According to vote monitoring website Public Whip, Widdecombe opposed every single equality measure for LGBT people during her 23 years in the corridors of power.

But she saved 2 gay men on Celebrity Big Brother so she CAN'T be a homophobe!!!!!1111111

Go to bed, love. :laugh2:

[Marsh.]

How ironic calling the people seeing homophobia "closed minded". :laugh2:

I mean, WHAT?

[pontyboi]

Yeah, she is so against gay sex that she fought for condoms for male prisoners.
She has said herself, she is against gay marriage, but not living together, it is the sacrament of marriage she wants to uphold due to her religious upbringing.

That was to protect straight rape victims in prison and came accross like she didn't want another aids epidemic imo.

She's old school nothing will change her mind and that's cool but she's gonna die a sad old lady.

[Parmy]

She knew the game the desperate camera hoggers were playing and ate them up and spat them both out

HBIC.

[Withano]

I mean if there was a scale of homophobia, we could probably agree to put her at a 5 or 6. Nobody is suggesting shes going round torching them, but like take a look into her history and she clearly doesnt support equality for them in any way.

[Jase.]

HBIC.

http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar60405_81.gif

[Withano]

According to vote monitoring website Public Whip, Widdecombe opposed every single equality measure for LGBT people during her 23 years in the corridors of power.

But she saved 2 gay men on Celebrity Big Brother so she CAN'T be a homophobe!!!!!1111111

Go to bed, love. :laugh2:

:joker:

[Parmy]

According to vote monitoring website Public Whip, Widdecombe opposed every single equality measure for LGBT people during her 23 years in the corridors of power.

But she saved 2 gay men on Celebrity Big Brother so she CAN'T be a homophobe!!!!!1111111

Go to bed, love. :laugh2:

List the whole 6......its really not a story, ni matter how much the the pages flutter gracefully in the wind.

[pontyboi]

I mean if there was a scale of homophobia, we could probably agree to put her at a 5 or 6. Nobody is suggestion shes goong round torching them, but like take a look into her history and she clearly doesnt support equality for them in any way.

All we need to do is look at her facial expressions and body language and also blatant words such as "disgusting" to prove she is against the gays.

She has openly said gay people shouldn't be allowed to get married aswell.

Are viewers that stupid they can't see she's homophobic?

[GiRTh]

According to vote monitoring website Public Whip, Widdecombe opposed every single equality measure for LGBT people during her 23 years in the corridors of power.

But she saved 2 gay men on Celebrity Big Brother so she CAN'T be a homophobe!!!!!1111111

Go to bed, love. :laugh2:Thats pretty damning. Cant really argue with that. When she had the chance to actually make a difference she balked so saving a couple of gay men on BB is a bit of a joke in comparison

[Jase.]

Thats pretty damning. Cant really argue with that. When she had the chance to actually make a difference she balked so saving a couple of gay men on BB is a bit of a joke in comparison

Right? And you'll still get the absolute crazies on her attempting to defend her :crazy:

[Marsh.]

According to vote monitoring website Public Whip, Widdecombe opposed every single equality measure for LGBT people during her 23 years in the corridors of power.

But she saved 2 gay men on Celebrity Big Brother so she CAN'T be a homophobe!!!!!1111111

Go to bed, love. :laugh2:

:clap1:

[Headie]

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[Jase.]

She has previously expressed support for ‘gay cure’ therapy and says people should have the ‘freedom’ to discriminate against gay couples.

Ann's Crazies: "BUT SHE'S FRIENDS WITH WAYNE SLEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Lilac hills]

Influence of divisive queen Ann tho ur faves could never,,,,,,,,,,,,

Also wtf is pink news lolol I wouldn’t trust anything written on there

[LukeB]

According to vote monitoring website Public Whip, Widdecombe opposed every single equality measure for LGBT people during her 23 years in the corridors of power.

But she saved 2 gay men on Celebrity Big Brother so she CAN'T be a homophobe!!!!!1111111

Go to bed, love. :laugh2:

i'm not racist because i saved a black cat teas

[GiRTh]

Right? And you'll still get the absolute crazies on her attempting to defend her :crazy:True

[Jase.]

i'm not racist because i saved a black cat teas

:skull:

[Christmas Lights]

According to vote monitoring website Public Whip, Widdecombe opposed every single equality measure for LGBT people during her 23 years in the corridors of power.

But she saved 2 gay men on Celebrity Big Brother so she CAN'T be a homophobe!!!!!1111111

Go to bed, love. :laugh2:

You love that word don't you "homophobe" , i swear it's the most overused word on here :bored: :facepalm:.

If we all are fed up of Ginuwine & Ashley's showmance aswell does that make us "Heterophobes" ?? seriously grow up .

I'm not even a big Ann fan but i'd rather she stayed over Andrew dickface and Shane J bitchface . Plus Ann and John for that matter aren't hateful people.

[Philanthropite]

Honestly some people really can't see a bigger picture. Ann was an mp between the 80's and the 90's and her views are that of a stout geriatric Catholic. Same sex gay partnership was only decriminalised in 1967 in England and Wales and in the 80's in Scotland and Ireland. Her old age thinking is hardly something to critisize with such large clubs in the grand scheme of things.

I've met many Belgiums who, no matter what I say detest German's with a passion regardless of personality. Is it wrong in this day? Yes but who are we to critisize, especially when the German occupation of Belgium was so ruthless.

Not really sticking up for Ann and her views but open your eyes and stop the sheeple attitude. Like the housemates discussed in tonights episode... She's an old fuddy duddy with some prehistoric views. Except in this analogy she is a dinosaur and we can't expect everyone from an older time to snap to today's standard overnight.

I think her attitude is plenty forgivable because she's clearly not an evil person.

[Jase.]

You love that word don't you "homophobe" , i swear it's the most overused word on here :bored: :facepalm:.

If we all are fed up of Ginuwine & Ashley's showmance aswell does that make us "Heterophobes" ?? seriously grow up .

I'm not even a big Ann fan but i'd rather she stayed over Andrew dickface and Shane J bitchface . Plus Ann and John for that matter aren't hateful people.

homophobe

"a person with an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people."

"She has previously expressed support for ‘gay cure’ therapy and says people should have the ‘freedom’ to discriminate against gay couples."

Now that is an irrational aversion to homosexuality which therefore means Ann is homophobic?

Does your brain not compute that? I don't understand why it's so hard to grasp?

Why are you bringing up Ashley and Ginuwine? They're absolutely irrelevant to the point being made?

"Andrew dickface and Shane J bitchface" - ...are you 7?

[Parmy]

Shes explained her reasons for all those 3 votes in that inciteful rag in the house and not been kicked out for homophobia...bb is my judge.

[Christmas Lights]

homophobe

"a person with an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people."

"She has previously expressed support for ‘gay cure’ therapy and says people should have the ‘freedom’ to discriminate against gay couples."

Now that is an irrational aversion to homosexuality which therefore means Ann is homophobic?

Does your brain not compute that? I don't understand why it's so hard to grasp?

Why are you bringing up Ashley and Ginuwine? They're absolutely irrelevant to the point being made?

"Andrew dickface and Shane J bitchface" - ...are you 7?


Why are you so insulting to forum members on here talking about my "brain not computing that" . and calling me 7 ?? , i don't have to like Andrew & Shane J and they are immature and pathetic :bored:

I never said i agree with all of Ann's views did i :facepalm: , jeeez . But there's some really hateful nasty people in this world and Ann and John are not on those levels .

People will always say things you don't like or agree with , people have different opinions. Atleast John & Ann have discussions it's not like they scream abuse and hateful discrimination at people .

I mentioned Ashley & Ginwuine as plenty are fed up of them hugging and touching all the time . But when we say we're also fed up of Andrew & Shane J touching and grabbing eachother then we're called "homophobes" .

[Jase.]

Why are you so insulting to forum members on here talking about my "brain not computing that" . and calling me 7 ?? , i don't have to like Andrew & Shane J and they are immature and pathetic :bored:

I never said i agree with all of Ann's views did i :facepalm: , jeeez . But there's some really hateful nasty people in this world and Ann and John are not on those levels .

People will always say things you don't like or agree with , people have different opinions. Atleast John & Ann have discussions it's not like they scream abuse and hateful discrimination at people .

I mentioned Ashley & Ginwuine as plenty are fed up of them hugging and touching all the time . But when we say we're also fed up of Andrew & Shane J touching and grabbing eachother then we're called "homophobes" .

I'm being insulting by asking if you're computing what I'm saying because it's coming across like you're not seeing as though you're bringing up irrelevant points? And you're continuing to do so?

[chuff me dizzy]

The Pink Post or whatever its name is is hardly the Times ..but moving on and back to my initial point ,if Ann was homophobic she would want rid of the gay hm8s, but she chose to save them ... no true homophobe would do that ,but keep digging :flowers:

[Kazanne]

"If Ann is as homophobic as you claim"

It's a well known fact that Ann Widdicombe is homophobic :laugh2:

For the uneducated, all you need to do is read the following article -

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/01/03/celebrity-big-brother-2018-ann-widdecombes-shocking-views-on-gay-and-transgender-people/

You're welcome!!

Funny how people believe the media when it suits:joker: never heard of this publication,but knock yourself out with the 'news'

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Because Ann is a politician and knows what gets votes.

She's said on several occasions how uncomfortable she is with men not being real men and to use the word DISGUSTING if Shane j and Andrew shared a bed is unacceptable....how can you defend that? And don't bring her age into it....it's not age it's being brought up in a family who showed no emotion she is a frigging political robot.

I can't take this woman seriously anymore after her conversation with Amanda talking about how these youngsters were on the reality show to get fame with no talent......ANN YOURE ON THE SAME REALITY SHOW!
:clap1:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Read the article and you'll receive the facts/confirmation you need on the revolting bitch being a homophobe?

I dont think you understand party politics do you?

[Kazanne]

The Pink Post or whatever its name is is hardly the Times ..but moving on and back to my initial point ,if Ann was homophobic she would want rid of the gay hm8s, but she chose to save them ... no true homophobe would do that ,but keep digging :flowers:

Isn't it funny how we rarely get answers to posts like this:laugh:

[joeysteele]

Funny how people believe the media when it suits:joker: never heard of this publication,but knock yourself out with the 'news'

Kazanne,I never read papers.

I know of Ann,her views against lgbt rights are well known.
She'd even admit to not agreeing with many.

I mix with people of all political persuasions,at UNI even Con friends I had,we're appalled at some of Ann's views and voting or non voting record on gay rights.


I like Ann as a housemate,she is a world away from all I stand for now.
I am still supporting her.

You may see her as not bigoted on lgbt issues,I know she has been and IF I had been in the house when she used disgusting to the even remote possibility of 2 men loving each other and knowing for certain,one of the people talking to her was gay too.
I'd have challenged her on it and called her out on it.

People who agree with her,well that's up to them.
Helping fuel,bigotry,wrong and selective discriminative prejudice is not for me at all.
Whether in jest or not.
I don't read papers as I said.

She was wrong in my view and hidden bigotry that she holds from a bigoted religious stance,is a sad and bad thing to support in my view.
She's great to watch but she has a lot that is dark as to how she sees lgbt rights.

[Kazanne]

Kazanne,I never read papers.

I know of Ann,her views against lgbt rights are well known.
She'd even admit to not agreeing with many.

I mix with people of all political persuasions,at UNI even Con friends I had,we're appalled at some of Ann's views and voting or non voting record on gay rights.


I like Ann as a housemate,she is a world away from all I stand for now.
I am still supporting her.

You may see her as not bigoted on lgbt issues,I know she has been and IF I had been in the house when she used disgusting to the even remote possibility of 2 men loving each other and knowing for certain,one of the people talking to her was gay too.
I'd have challenged her on it and called her out on it.

People who agree with her,well that's up to them.
Helping fuel,bigotry,wrong and selective discriminative prejudice is not for me at all.
Whether in jest or not.
I don't read papers as I said.

She was wrong in my view and hidden bigotry that she holds from a bigoted religious stance,is a sad and bad thing to support in my view.
She's great to watch but she has a lot that is dark as to how she sees lgbt rights.

Wayne also said they were disgusting Joey and he is gay,so I do think in this instance people have Ann wrong, I don't believe in all her views but they are hers to own,but in this case I don't think it was anything to do with them being gay, as Wayne felt what they said 'disgusting' also

[joeysteele]

i'm not racist because i saved a black cat teas

Nice one.

Lord above,if she really has support for her dark ages views,all powers that be help us.

She gave condoms in prison because the govt.of the day rightly wanted it,fearing the massive costs oh healthcare that may come from hiv /aids related conditions or hiv itself.
A money decision,one which also helped her keep her position in govt.

[Ellen]

Kazanne,I never read papers.

I know of Ann,her views against lgbt rights are well known.
She'd even admit to not agreeing with many.

I mix with people of all political persuasions,at UNI even Con friends I had,we're appalled at some of Ann's views and voting or non voting record on gay rights.


I like Ann as a housemate,she is a world away from all I stand for now.
I am still supporting her.

You may see her as not bigoted on lgbt issues,I know she has been and IF I had been in the house when she used disgusting to the even remote possibility of 2 men loving each other and knowing for certain,one of the people talking to her was gay too.
I'd have challenged her on it and called her out on it.

People who agree with her,well that's up to them.
Helping fuel,bigotry,wrong and selective discriminative prejudice is not for me at all.
Whether in jest or not.
I don't read papers as I said.

She was wrong in my view and hidden bigotry that she holds from a bigoted religious stance,is a sad and bad thing to support in my view.
She's great to watch but she has a lot that is dark as to how she sees lgbt rights.

She said the same thing to Ashley about her sharing a bed with Geniwine so why would she be any different with anyone else sharing a bed? Are you saying because one is gay she has to change her opinion from what it would be if they were both heterosexual?

[Ellen]

Wayne also said they were disgusting Joey and he is gay,so I do think in this instance people have Ann wrong, I don't believe in all her views but they are hers to own,but in this case I don't think it was anything to do with them being gay, as Wayne felt what they said 'disgusting' also

Yes he did say it Kazanne, that must be ok thu :shrug:

[Kazanne]

Yes he did say it Kazanne, that must be ok thu :shrug:

Well there must be a 'phobia' for that then , maybe Annophobia.:laugh:

[Ellen]

Well there must be a 'phobia' for that then , maybe Annophobia.:laugh:

Good one :joker:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

I find it funny that a few "kids" in twitter have "discovered" that she is a "vile homphobe" but the gay guy living in the house with her and all the others havent?

:joker:


go get dem pitchforks im young and iv found a cause and im angry and right and grrrr and when is my tea?

:fist:

[Livia]

People are taking offence that Ann's against gay marriage, and think that entitles them to talk about her in the most disgusting ways. She's a Roman Catholic. That's her belief. She has a right to be against gay marriage... just like gay people now have the right to marry. Not everyone agrees with everything, all the time. She has said several times, and in plain English, that she has no problem with gay people... only with gay marriage.

[Kazanne]

I find it funny that a few "kids" in twitter have "discovered" that she is a "vile homphobe" but the gay guy living in the house with her and all the others havent?

:joker:


go get dem pitchforks im young and iv found a cause and im angry and right and grrrr and when is my tea?

:fist:

:joker::joker: spot on LT

[Lilac hills]

Shandrewphobic tea

[Kazanne]

People are taking offence that Ann's against gay marriage, and think that entitles them to talk about her in the most disgusting ways. She's a Roman Catholic. That's her belief. She has a right to be against gay marriage... just like gay people now have the right to marry. Not everyone agrees with everything, all the time. She has said several times, and in plain English, that she has no problem with gay people... only with gay marriage.

:clap1::clap1:

[joeysteele]

People are taking offence that Ann's against gay marriage, and think that entitles them to talk about her in the most disgusting ways. She's a Roman Catholic. That's her belief. She has a right to be against gay marriage... just like gay people now have the right to marry. Not everyone agrees with everything, all the time. She has said several times, and in plain English, that she has no problem with gay people... only with gay marriage.


Really,I think you maybe need to research her a bit more.

It wasn't in response to gay marriage last night,the question was THEY KNEW she didn't like gay marriage but did she like their love/attraction with each other.

She called that disgusting,nothing to do with gay marriage as you try to cloud it with now.

I love Ann as a housemate she will even get my votes to win.
You have in the past advocated religion shouldn't be be ramned down others throats.
Yet you try to likely justify her comment of disgusting to a possible,only possible gay affection relationship down to her religious views and the bigotry contained in said religion.
Which actually is the faith I was born into but which zi have challenged many times,on many issues in it.
As I would Ann for expressing such bigoted views publicly too.

She is either right to think 2 men loving each other is disgusting or wrong to.
I know which side I come down on.

I say again,the gay marriage bit was discounted by the questioner last night to her.
They accepted she was already against it.
This was as another member has repeatedly stated,a question about gay love.
Which Ann described as disgusting.

This is BB at its best,when people get tripped up to reveal their real thinking on issues as Ann was,I'm my view,clearly likely not yours since you are possibly justifying her stance she holds and why.

Religious orientated bigotry causes masses of problems,not religions themselves, just the extreme bigotry arising from same.

[Livia]

Really,I think you maybe need to research her a bit more.

It wasn't in response to gay marriage last night,the question was THEY KNEW she didn't like gay marriage but did she like their love/attraction with each other.

She called that disgusting,nothing to do with gay marriage as you try to cloud it with now.

I love Ann as a housemate she will even get my votes to win.
You have in the past advocated religion shouldn't be be ramned down others throats.
Yet you try to likely justify her comment of disgusting to a possible,only possible gay affection relationship down to her religious views and the bigotry contained in said religion.
Which actually is the faith I was born into but which zi have challenged many times,on many issues in it.
As I would Ann for expressing such bigoted views publicly too.

She is either right to think 2 men loving each other is disgusting or wrong to.
I know which side I come down on.

I say again,the gay marriage bit was discounted by the questioner last night to her.
They accepted she was already against it.
This was as another member has repeatedly stated,a question about gay love.
Which Ann described as disgusting.

This is BB at its best,when people get tripped up to reveal their real thinking on issues as Ann was,I'm my view,clearly likely not yours since you are possibly justifying her stance she holds and why.

Religious orientated bigotry causes masses of problems,not religions themselves, just the extreme bigotry arising from same.

No, religion shouldn't be rammed down people's throats. But neither should people's beliefs be used as a stick with which to beat them.

Ann has been questioned time and time again in the house in the hopes that she will say something that people can latch on to. She is entitled to her beliefs... unless we're going to deny people that. We have hundreds of thousands, millions even, of people who adhere to a religion that regards homosexuality as wrong. My problem with this is twofold... 1) it seems like it's only ever Christians who are castigated for this, and, 2) if you ask someone the same question in a thousand different ways, you will eventually hear something you can pin your self-righteousness to. And that's exactly what people in the house have done.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Really,I think you maybe need to research her a bit more.

It wasn't in response to gay marriage last night,the question was THEY KNEW she didn't like gay marriage but did she like their love/attraction with each other.

She called that disgusting,nothing to do with gay marriage as you try to cloud it with now.

I love Ann as a housemate she will even get my votes to win.
You have in the past advocated religion shouldn't be be ramned down others throats.
Yet you try to likely justify her comment of disgusting to a possible,only possible gay affection relationship down to her religious views and the bigotry contained in said religion.
Which actually is the faith I was born into but which zi have challenged many times,on many issues in it.
As I would Ann for expressing such bigoted views publicly too.

She is either right to think 2 men loving each other is disgusting or wrong to.
I know which side I come down on.

I say again,the gay marriage bit was discounted by the questioner last night to her.
They accepted she was already against it.
This was as another member has repeatedly stated,a question about gay love.
Which Ann described as disgusting.

This is BB at its best,when people get tripped up to reveal their real thinking on issues as Ann was,I'm my view,clearly likely not yours since you are possibly justifying her stance she holds and why.

Religious orientated bigotry causes masses of problems,not religions themselves, just the extreme bigotry arising from same.

Either you are deliberately ignoring the situation last night to get another tiresome political dig in or you were somehow oblivious to it (or you did not watch it -and bearing in mind Wayne said the same as Ann it seems this is the most likely reason)?

It was not a debate, it wasnt in parliament, she want being interviewed by paxman - it was larking around as a joke, Shane J was goading her to get a response and in character she gave them what they wanted to hear (Lumpkin had already been goading her saying they were coming into her bed)

They came into the kitchen after wrestling on the ground and laughing

Shane J "you might not support our marriage Ann"

Clearly as they are not getting married and clearly as Andrew is not gay this was a joke and said as a wind up

Shane J: "but you have to recognise our love"

both arm in arm, slightly intoxicated and exaggerating their "love" in a sitcom like fashion to goad Ann and her religious views.


To try and take ann's one word reply, said in the spirit of the question as in any way serious is either:


to have not seen the ep

to exercise an agenda against Ann based on personal hate


which one is it?

[joeysteele]

No, religion shouldn't be rammed down people's throats. But neither should people's beliefs be used as a stick with which to beat them.

Ann has been questioned time and time again in the house in the hopes that she will say something that people can latch on to. She is entitled to her beliefs... unless we're going to deny people that. We have hundreds of thousands, millions even, of people who adhere to a religion that regards homosexuality as wrong. My problem with this is twofold... 1) it seems like it's only ever Christians who are castigated for this, and, 2) if you ask someone the same question in a thousand different ways, you will eventually hear something you can pin your self-righteousness to. And that's exactly what people in the house have done.

That's a good and fair argument you have made.
One which Ann may well have made if challenged on the issue.

I am.voting for her on BB anyway,I think she's awesome in the house.
I just wish they'd stop pussyfooting around her and challenge her more.
She can and has always given as much as she gets and stands her ground.

You've made me re think a little on this actually.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

That's a good and fair argument you have made.
One which Ann may well have made if challenged on the issue.

I am.voting for her on BB anyway,I think she's awesome in the house.
I just wish they'd stop pussyfooting around her and challenge her more.
She can and has always given as much as she gets and stands her ground.

You've made me re think a little on this actually.
Maybe it's just the PDAs she's uncomfortable with? But I don't think Shane and Andrew have gone too far. They've just cuddled?

[bots]

Maybe it's just the PDAs she's uncomfortable with? But I don't think Shane and Andrew have gone too far. They've just cuddled?

But thats very much a personal preference. Some people wouldn't mind if they saw shagging on the street, others would take great offense. We are all entitled to have our own personal view on it

[joeysteele]

Maybe it's just the PDAs she's uncomfortable with? But I don't think Shane and Andrew have gone too far. They've just cuddled?

It's why I'd have loved her being called out on it.
Maybe she was but nothing shown.

I agree with you Vanessa.
No way do I think Shane and Andrew have gone too far at all.
I like these bromances.

As I did Austin's too in other series.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

It's why I'd have loved her being called out on it.
Maybe she was but nothing shown.

I agree with you Vanessa.
No way do I think Shane and Andrew have gone too far at all.
I like these bromances.

As I did Austin's too in other series.
Even if they wanted to take things further, I don't think it's wrong. It's up to them really. I see them getting close, so who knows?

[Kazanne]

Even if they wanted to take things further, I don't think it's wrong. It's up to them really. I see them getting close, so who knows?

There is nothing wrong with it,but there is something wrong when they shove it in someones face that doesn't want to see it and they know that.

[joeysteele]

There is nothing wrong with it,but there is something wrong when they shove it in someones face that doesn't want to see it and they know that.

Oh come on they are all in the same house,there's nowhere to run.
Just as Ann indicated last night as drinking started.
They can still be heard.

They all have to have each other pushing some views and actions in their faces.
All of them,no one immune from it.

As in all BB series of the past too.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Oh come on they are all in the same house,there's nowhere to run.
Just as Ann indicated last night as drinking started.
They can still be heard.

They all have to have each other pushing some views and actions in their faces.
All of them,no one immune from it.

As in all BB series of the past too.
This!

[Kazanne]

Oh come on they are all in the same house,there's nowhere to run.
Just as Ann indicated last night as drinking started.
They can still be heard.

They all have to have each other pushing some views and actions in their faces.
All of them,no one immune from it.

As in all BB series of the past too.

Ann has already said she goes to bed so they can enjoy themselves ,:shrug: so why would they approach Ann and say annoying things to her ?

[bots]

Oh come on they are all in the same house,there's nowhere to run.
Just as Ann indicated last night as drinking started.
They can still be heard.

They all have to have each other pushing some views and actions in their faces.
All of them,no one immune from it.

As in all BB series of the past too.

yeah we saw andrew do that when he stuck out his bare ass and skid marked the window, doesn't make it right

[Marsh.]

The Pink Post or whatever its name is is hardly the Times ..but moving on and back to my initial point ,if Ann was homophobic she would want rid of the gay hm8s, but she chose to save them ... no true homophobe would do that ,but keep digging :flowers:
Saving gay housemates in big brother does not overshadow voting AGAINST EQUALITY in the real world. How do you not see that?

[Marsh.]

Funny how people believe the media when it suits:joker: never heard of this publication,but knock yourself out with the 'news'
Ann has made no secret of her beliefs when it comes to the rights of LGBT people so the media has nothing to do with it.

[Marsh.]

I find it funny that a few "kids" in twitter have "discovered" that she is a "vile homphobe" but the gay guy living in the house with her and all the others havent?

:joker:


go get dem pitchforks im young and iv found a cause and im angry and right and grrrr and when is my tea?

:fist:
"Discovered"?

She's never made any secret of the fact she believes homosexuals don't deserve equality with heterosexuals.

[Robodog]

No, religion shouldn't be rammed down people's throats. But neither should people's beliefs be used as a stick with which to beat them.

Ann has been questioned time and time again in the house in the hopes that she will say something that people can latch on to. She is entitled to her beliefs... unless we're going to deny people that. We have hundreds of thousands, millions even, of people who adhere to a religion that regards homosexuality as wrong. My problem with this is twofold... 1) it seems like it's only ever Christians who are castigated for this, and, 2) if you ask someone the same question in a thousand different ways, you will eventually hear something you can pin your self-righteousness to. And that's exactly what people in the house have done.

Voice of reason

:douf:

[chuff me dizzy]

Either you are deliberately ignoring the situation last night to get another tiresome political dig in or you were somehow oblivious to it (or you did not watch it -and bearing in mind Wayne said the same as Ann it seems this is the most likely reason)?

It was not a debate, it wasnt in parliament, she want being interviewed by paxman - it was larking around as a joke, Shane J was goading her to get a response and in character she gave them what they wanted to hear (Lumpkin had already been goading her saying they were coming into her bed)

They came into the kitchen after wrestling on the ground and laughing

Shane J "you might not support our marriage Ann"

Clearly as they are not getting married and clearly as Andrew is not gay this was a joke and said as a wind up

Shane J: "but you have to recognise our love"

both arm in arm, slightly intoxicated and exaggerating their "love" in a sitcom like fashion to goad Ann and her religious views.


To try and take ann's one word reply, said in the spirit of the question as in any way serious is either:


to have not seen the ep

to exercise an agenda against Ann based on personal hate


which one is it?

:clap1: Post of the day

[joeysteele]

Ann has already said she goes to bed so they can enjoy themselves ,:shrug: so why would they approach Ann and say annoying things to her ?

They said to her in the kitchen before she went to bed.
They didn't approach her in the bedroom.

She was hearing the drinking starting from the bedroom.
As I said there is no escape from people being in your face in the BB house.

As really both you and I have said over near all series since 2010.
When Ben Duncan was getting stick particularly.
We both said when it was said he should get out out the way.
Where can he go he's in the BB house.

It's still the same now as then as near all housemates say once they're out.