Lets discuss Waynes comment

[Kazanne]

It seems some people are hell bent on wanting to believe Ann is against Gays, because when the when the two boys said to her they would show their fake love to her she said 'that's disgusting' and Wayne sleep also said it,but Ann is getting all the flack,why? is this about politics or CBB ? I have asked in various threads and no response about Waynes comment which is weird as he is a gay man himself,imo Anns response was because she does not like public displays of affection as a lot of people don't, so why is it ok for Wayne to say it and not Ann ?

[Livia]

Because you can say anything you like about her... she's old, she's cranky, she's out of touch, she's a bigot because she's a Christian, she's not entitled to her own views if they clash with someone else's...

Just over fifty years ago you could go to prison for being gay in this country, Now you can marry the person you love and it is against the law to discriminate against you. And yet we've still got to have a witch hunt and try to pick something out of Ann's conversation to say she's a homophobe. If there was a devout Muslim in there, or even a Jew, people would be worried about banging on about the gay thing for fear of offence. Not so with Christians though... even when they've made it clear they are not anti-gay, but they are anti-gay marriage.

Like Kazanne said, Wayne said it too. But we'll just draw a veil over that because it doesn't fit with the agenda.

[bots]

yeah, people hold ann to a different standard than they do wayne or anyone else in the house

[Kazanne]

Got a feeling this will be a quiet thread:hehe::laugh:

[bots]

Got a feeling this will be a quiet thread

:joker:

[Lilac hills]

Bc cherry pickers to fit narratives duh

[Livia]

Got a feeling this will be a quiet thread

LOL.... ah well, the most important and intelligent FMs have already posted. Arguing the point of the thread would mean discontinuing the witch-hunt.

[Livia]

Bc cherry pickers to fit narratives duh

English, please...

[Kazanne]

LOL.... ah well, the most important and intelligent FMs have already posted. Arguing the point of the thread would mean discontinuing the witch-hunt.

:hehe::wavey:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Because he said it ironically and Ann did not

why do i know this?

coz i h8te ann the old tory scum


booooooooooooo

[In the Drunk Tank]

When did Wayne say it?

[joeysteele]

I'm not that interested in Wayne Sleep,for me he has been disappointing.
His thoughts are equally wrong.
She was asked a direct question re gay love,not marriage.

She didn't answer with,if it's genuine. she was fine with that.
She answered it was disgusting.

Support her homophobic views all you like.
Thankfully I never will.
She's an intelligent woman who knows how to phrase and approach issues.
Her mask fell last night.

The ageism card is rubbish too,Amanda is 82 but hasn't those views.
Utter tripe.
No justification for Ann's comment only the fact it comes from religious bigotry.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

I'm not that interested in Wayne Sleep,for me he has been disappointing.
His thoughts are equally wrong.
She was asked a direct question re gay love,not marriage.

She didn't answer with,if it's genuine. she was fine with that.
She answered it was disgusting.

Support her homophobic views all you like.
Thankfully I never will.
She's an intelligent woman who knows how to phrase and approach issues.
Her mask fell last night.

The ageism card is rubbish too,Amanda is 82 but hasn't those views.
Utter tripe.
No justification for Ann's comment only the fact it comes from religious bigotry.

You really have not seen the episode have you?

:rolleyes:

[joeysteele]

You really have not seen the episode have you?

:rolleyes:

Oh go and bother someone else.
Of course I watched it,twice too.

Not that I or anyone needs to answer to you anyway.

[Kazanne]

When did Wayne say it?

Just after Ann ,there is a link somewhere

[Shaun]

It seems some people are hell bent on wanting to believe Ann is against Gays

I'd imagine 99.9% of the circumstantial evidence there is her voting record in Parliament, rather than a throwaway comment about Andrew/Shane sharing a bed.

[Parmy]

I'd imagine 99.9% of the circumstantial evidence there is her voting record in Parliament, rather than a throwaway comment about Andrew/Shane sharing a bed.

Which she explained in the house and was not booted out for homophobia once her explanation was given.....shes only voted thrice in parliament...once to stop the age being reduced from 18 to 16....once to stop gayness being part of the school carriculum and once to stop gay marraige...all worthy and understandable considering her religious beliefs:shrug:

[Shaun]

And religious beliefs = nutjob! Sorry!

[Parmy]

And religious beliefs = nutjob! Sorry!

Is that you being anti religion and anti religious people...i couldnt make this hypocritical **** up shaun...keep going you are funny.

[ChristmasNeeve]

And religious beliefs = nutjob! Sorry!

Well I don't think it has a place in Politics that's for sure, it gets in the way of equality.

[bots]

Well I don't think it has a place in Politics that's for sure, it gets in the way of equality.

Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, David Cameron and Theresa May ... all religious fanatics compared to the average person in the street and all got to be PM

[Kazanne]

Nice to see the comment by Wayne side lined again.:laugh:

[Kazanne]

And religious beliefs = nutjob! Sorry!

I'm religious and proud to be a 'nutjob'

[bots]

is Wayne religious? I know Shane L is and perhaps Malika too? as they were in that prayer meeting. Reason i bring it up is because Ann now seems to be getting targetted because she is religious, and she isn't alone in that in the house

[ChristmasNeeve]

Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, David Cameron and Theresa May ... all religious fanatics compared to the average person in the street and all got to be PM

I'm not saying that religious people shouldn't be politicians what I'm saying is if they vote according to their religious beliefs instead separating their job from their personal religious beliefs then they shouldn't be politicians

[Kazanne]

is Wayne religious? I know Shane L is and perhaps Malika too? as they were in that prayer meeting

I can't remember tbh,I think he may have been there,but not certain.

[Shaun]

I'm religious and proud to be a 'nutjob'

It's been noted

[Kazanne]

It's been noted

I'm sure it has.

[Rustic bauble]

It seems some people are hell bent on wanting to believe Ann is against Gays, because when the when the two boys said to her they would show their fake love to her she said 'that's disgusting' and Wayne sleep also said it,but Ann is getting all the flack,why? is this about politics or CBB ? I have asked in various threads and no response about Waynes comment which is weird as he is a gay man himself,imo Anns response was because she does not like public displays of affection as a lot of people don't, so why is it ok for Wayne to say it and not Ann ?


I don't recall that conversation...I must have missed it. I can only think it's because Ann says it with such conviction...or maybe it's seen as more acceptable for a gay man to say that about another gay couple??...
Either way it's not right that Ann gets vilified for it...

[Paula D]

And religious beliefs = nutjob! Sorry!

And yet you've the neck to go around calling other bigots?

[Kazanne]

I don't recall that conversation...I must have missed it. I can only think it's because Ann says it with such conviction...or maybe it's seen as more acceptable for a gay man to say that about another gay couple??...
Either way it's not right that Ann gets vilified for it...

Hi rusti :wavey: I just think Ann said it in regard to them displaying PDA,it makes her uncomfortable

[Paula D]

Hi rusti :wavey: I just think Ann said it in regard to them displaying PDA,it makes her uncomfortable

It was exactly that, she has said the same about Ashley and Ginuwine, it's just that people can't find a phobia or ism for that.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Just after Ann ,there is a link somewhere

Hm well I've just checked the episode back and I don't think it was aired on the main HLs in that case

[Kazanne]

It was exactly that, she has said the same about Ashley and Ginuwine, it's just that people can't find a phobia or ism for that.

And Wayne still gets away with it scot free:wavey:

[Kazanne]

Hm well I've just checked the episode back and I don't think it was aired on the main HLs in that case

It was in that link from the PinkPost someone posted.

[In the Drunk Tank]

It was in that link from the PinkPost someone posted.

Whereabouts? I've read the pink news article on it and still can't see any footage of Wayne saying this

[Kazanne]

Whereabouts? I've read the pink news article on it and still can't see any footage of Wayne saying this

It's not footage it's in the print,I don't know what thread the link is in now,maybe someone can find it

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm not that interested in Wayne Sleep,for me he has been disappointing.
His thoughts are equally wrong.
She was asked a direct question re gay love,not marriage.

She didn't answer with,if it's genuine. she was fine with that.
She answered it was disgusting.

Support her homophobic views all you like.
Thankfully I never will.
She's an intelligent woman who knows how to phrase and approach issues.
Her mask fell last night.

The ageism card is rubbish too,Amanda is 82 but hasn't those views.
Utter tripe.
No justification for Ann's comment only the fact it comes from religious bigotry.

But until Kaz opened this thread it had got swept under the carpet ,why is this ?

[chuff me dizzy]

And yet you've the neck to go around calling other bigots?

:clap1:

[Amy Jade]

I am pretty sure Ann called Andrew and Shane being all over each other disgusting (something she has said about Ashley and Ginuwine too) rather than the prospect of either being homosexual.

I think the outrage is way over the top

[Kazanne]

But until Kaz opened this thread it had got swept under the carpet ,why is this ?

I cant bloody find the link now someone did post it in one of the threads ,not sure if it was the pink post now,but there was definitely one

[GiRTh]

It was in that link from the PinkPost someone posted.I cant find a quote in that article do you have a link?

[Rustic bauble]

Hi rusti :wavey: I just think Ann said it in regard to them displaying PDA,it makes her uncomfortable

Of course she did. When Ashley had the chat with her after their little arguement, Ashley wanted to give Ann a hug afterwards and Ann said "as long as it's nothing more than that I don't to all that mushy stuff"...so she obviously doesn't like public affection and obviously is uncomfortable around it.

[Cherry Christmas]

And didn't G claim racism when Ann didn't approve of him and Ashley stroking each other

[Livia]

And religious beliefs = nutjob! Sorry!

Coming for you.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/8/8e/Jew_rampage.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090412015203

[GiRTh]

This article?

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/01/03/celebrity-big-brother-2018-ann-widdecombes-shocking-views-on-gay-and-transgender-people/

I cant find a quote can you highlight it please :thumbs:

[chuff me dizzy]

I cant bloody find the link now someone did post it in one of the threads ,not sure if it was the pink post now,but there was definitely one

The pink post thing was in one of my threads last night about Ann not choosing for Shane or Wayne to be evicted

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Also if yopu listen back Ann actually said "disgusten" which as we all know if tongue in cheek for disgusting and so was about as serious as the silly question by Andrews little lapbitch.

[Kazanne]

The pink post thing was in one of my threads last night about Ann not choosing for Shane or Wayne to be evicted

I'm not certain it was that one but I will keep looking,not that it matters much,i know I saw it ,wish I had of saved it now.:wavey:

[chuff me dizzy]

And didn't G claim racism when Ann didn't approve of him and Ashley stroking each other

Every chance !! I get so sick of all these delicate flowers who cannot be criticised for being a total prat without them claiming its because they are black,gay,transgender etc .. take a look at yourself ,it because you are an awful,arrogant human being who think they have a right to hide behind a banner and wave it every time someone points out that they are not a perfect being .... Get over yourselves !!

[Kazanne]

This article?

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/01/03/celebrity-big-brother-2018-ann-widdecombes-shocking-views-on-gay-and-transgender-people/

I cant find a quote can you highlight it please :thumbs:

No not that one there was another, it said that Wayne repeated what she said, I will keep looking

[chuff me dizzy]

It was in that link from the PinkPost someone posted.

This is my thread from last night where i was advised to read the pink post ( as if :joker: ) not sure if its in here xx

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334320

[In the Drunk Tank]

Starting to think this thread is fake news :think:

[Kazanne]

This is my thread from last night where i was advised to read the pink post ( as if :joker: ) not sure if its in here xx

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334320

No that's not the one Chuff,that would be a biased paper anyway,have you seen it ? someone else posted the link so there MUST be one.

[Kazanne]

Starting to think this thread is fake news :think:

Why would anyone do that? I didn't even post the link,I cant remember who it was but other people commented,so I know it wasn't fake,otherwise I wouldn't be bothered posting about it .:shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

No that's not the one Chuff,that would be a biased paper anyway,have you seen it ? someone else posted the link so there MUST be one.

Kaz having burning matches stuffed down my fingernails wouldn't make me open the link and read it :joker:

[In the Drunk Tank]

Why would anyone do that? I didn't even post the link,I cant remember who it was but other people commented,so I know it wasn't fake,otherwise I wouldn't be bothered posting about it .:shrug:

Just saying it seems remarkably difficult to find any evidence that Wayne said this

I think people may have misread or misinterpreted something, possibly this article: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/676162/Wayne-Sleep-Celebrity-Big-Brother-2018-eating

[Kazanne]

Right I have found it here is the paragraph

The two guys playfully wrestled in one scene airing on Monday (January 22), leading Shane to jokingly chide Ann as she looked on: "You might not support our marriage Ann, but you have to support our love."
"Don't be disgusting!" Ann sniped back.
In the moment, Wayne Sleep — who is gay himself — incredulously repeated Ann's shocking remark, before the rest of the house tried to break down what she'd meant.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/celebrity-big-brother/news/a848133/celebrity-big-brother-2018s-ann-widdecombe-condemned-homophobic-remark/

I KNEW I had seen it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Right I have found it here is the paragraph

The two guys playfully wrestled in one scene airing on Monday (January 22), leading Shane to jokingly chide Ann as she looked on: "You might not support our marriage Ann, but you have to support our love."
"Don't be disgusting!" Ann sniped back.
In the moment, Wayne Sleep — who is gay himself — incredulously repeated Ann's shocking remark, before the rest of the house tried to break down what she'd meant.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/celebrity-big-brother/news/a848133/celebrity-big-brother-2018s-ann-widdecombe-condemned-homophobic-remark/

I KNEW I had seen it.

Oh dear theres going to be a lot of egg on a lot of faces and its never been a good look ,Well done on finding it xx

[Kazanne]

Oh dear theres going to be a lot of egg on a lot of faces and its never been a good look ,Well done on finding it xx

it took me a while Chuff but I KNEW I had seen it,I wouldn't have let it drop.:laugh::laugh:

[In the Drunk Tank]

'Incredulously repeating Ann's shocking remark' =/= Wayne also calling Andrew and Shane disgusting

[GiRTh]

Right I have found it here is the paragraph

The two guys playfully wrestled in one scene airing on Monday (January 22), leading Shane to jokingly chide Ann as she looked on: "You might not support our marriage Ann, but you have to support our love."
"Don't be disgusting!" Ann sniped back.
In the moment, Wayne Sleep — who is gay himself — incredulously repeated Ann's shocking remark, before the rest of the house tried to break down what she'd meant.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/celebrity-big-brother/news/a848133/celebrity-big-brother-2018s-ann-widdecombe-condemned-homophobic-remark/

I KNEW I had seen it.Thanks :thumbs:

I does seem like they were both joking.:hee:

[Christmas Lights]

Because you can say anything you like about her... she's old, she's cranky, she's out of touch, she's a bigot because she's a Christian, she's not entitled to her own views if they clash with someone else's...

Just over fifty years ago you could go to prison for being gay in this country, Now you can marry the person you love and it is against the law to discriminate against you. And yet we've still got to have a witch hunt and try to pick something out of Ann's conversation to say she's a homophobe. If there was a devout Muslim in there, or even a Jew, people would be worried about banging on about the gay thing for fear of offence. Not so with Christians though... even when they've made it clear they are not anti-gay, but they are anti-gay marriage.

Like Kazanne said, Wayne said it too. But we'll just draw a veil over that because it doesn't fit with the agenda.

:clap1:

In another thread I was saying how other religions have similar beliefs but people won't give those people much grief.
Ann's faith is an easy target . Even Maggie brought up child abuse , when we all know child abuse happens in all types of places .

And you can't demonize an entire culture & religion just because of horrific things that have happened within some of these places of worship. They're not all abusing kids , promoting hate and embezzling money . That's extremely narrow minded of people to assume that , yes corruption is around but not everywhere .

I didn't know Wayne said the same as Ann, typically they'd ignore Wayne as it wouldn't make sense to call him homophobic considering he's gay.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Right I have found it here is the paragraph

The two guys playfully wrestled in one scene airing on Monday (January 22), leading Shane to jokingly chide Ann as she looked on: "You might not support our marriage Ann, but you have to support our love."
"Don't be disgusting!" Ann sniped back.
In the moment, Wayne Sleep — who is gay himself — incredulously repeated Ann's shocking remark, before the rest of the house tried to break down what she'd meant.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/celebrity-big-brother/news/a848133/celebrity-big-brother-2018s-ann-widdecombe-condemned-homophobic-remark/

I KNEW I had seen it.

33.34 in last nights ep he shouts disgusting and puts his hand up and stands up, all in jest of course like the whole convo

I find it sad that anyone is so desperate to attack Ann that this is literally all they have

:(

[In the Drunk Tank]

tbh I actually defended Ann last night, I just wanted to clarify the context of Wayne's comment because it sounded out of character for him

[Cherry Christmas]

Right I have found it here is the paragraph

The two guys playfully wrestled in one scene airing on Monday (January 22), leading Shane to jokingly chide Ann as she looked on: "You might not support our marriage Ann, but you have to support our love."
"Don't be disgusting!" Ann sniped back.
In the moment, Wayne Sleep — who is gay himself — incredulously repeated Ann's shocking remark, before the rest of the house tried to break down what she'd meant.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/celebrity-big-brother/news/a848133/celebrity-big-brother-2018s-ann-widdecombe-condemned-homophobic-remark/

I KNEW I had seen it.


Well done Kaz :laugh:

[Cherry Christmas]

:clap1:

In another thread I was saying how other religions have similar beliefs but people won't give those people much grief.
Ann's faith is an easy target . Even Maggie brought up child abuse , when we all know child abuse happens in all types of places .

And you can't demonize an entire culture & religion just because of horrific things that have happened within some of these places of worship. They're not all abusing kids , promoting hate and embezzling money . That's extremely narrow minded of people to assume that , yes corruption is around but not everywhere .

I didn't know Wayne said the same as Ann, typically they'd ignore Wayne as it wouldn't make sense to call him homophobic considering he's gay.


:clap1:

[Kazanne]

Well done Kaz :laugh:

I thought baby brain was taking over there for a minute Cherie.:wavey: