Labour forced to scrap plans to charge white people to listen to his speech

[Brillopad]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5409589/labour-forced-to-scrap-plans-to-charge-white-people-more-for-corbyn-speech-after-equalities-watchdog-complains/

I can’t make up my mind whether this man is the biggest hypocrite or the biggest racist.

His reasoning and decision-making skills leave a lot to be desired as he seems incapable of seeing how inappropriate and backward such a decision was. It took the complaint of the equalities watchdog to force him to abandon such an extreme and tasteless plan.

[Kazanne]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5409589/labour-forced-to-scrap-plans-to-charge-white-people-more-for-corbyn-speech-after-equalities-watchdog-complains/

I can’t make up my mind whether this man is the biggest hypocrite or the biggest racist.

His reasoning and decision-making skills leave a lot to be desired as he seems incapable of seeing how inappropriate and backward such a decision was. It took the complaint of the equalities watchdog to force him to abandon such an extreme and tasteless plan.

The worlds going mad brillo :wavey:

[Mystic Mock]

Who adviced him to do this?:laugh:

[Cherie]

Equality what? :laugh:

[smudgie]

Perhaps if he gave the speech free for everybody it might do the trick.

[joeysteele]

Perhaps if he gave the speech free for everybody it might do the trick.

I agree,all speeches by politicians should be free as to
ALL Parties.
The organisers of this made a mess of the planning so I am glad a more sensible path has been gone down.

[Ammi]

..yeah obviously it’s right that they’ve been forced to scrap something that’s so discriminatory ..bit of an odd one though...reading down the article ‘white working class’..so those words have intrigued me in terms of the intention of it in the first place...was the discount intended more for lower incomes and is there a higher rate of lower incomes with ethnic minorities../not sure actually...and is it something more being media slanted to make it look as though it was just aimed at being because of skin colour rather than a lower income based thing and making it easier for those to attend...all guide odd anyway so I’m sure questions will be asked and answered and we can see what’s what with this...

[Livia]

Nothing left to surprise me with Labour. And whatever comes next, supporters will go to any length to find some excuse. Can you imagine if it was white people who were getting a discount?

[Northern Monkey]

Oh jeez.Not racist Labour.He don’t help himself does he.

Wonder how much they were charging Jews to go see it

[Livia]

Oh jeez.Not racist Labour.He don’t help himself does he.

Wonder how much they were charging Jews to go see it

Oh I don't think they'd allow Jews in.... They're not fond of the Jews.

[Northern Monkey]

Oh I don't think they'd allow Jews in.... They're not fond of the Jews.

So i’ve heard.The Daily Politics was talking about that yesterday

[joeysteele]

Oh I don't think they'd allow Jews in.... They're not fond of the Jews.

That's utter nonsense.

[Cherie]

..yeah obviously it’s right that they’ve been forced to scrap something that’s so discriminatory ..bit of an odd one though...reading down the article ‘white working class’..so those words have intrigued me in terms of the intention of it in the first place...was the discount intended more for lower incomes and is there a higher rate of lower incomes with ethnic minorities../not sure actually...and is it something more being media slanted to make it look as though it was just aimed at being because of skin colour rather than a lower income based thing and making it easier for those to attend...all guide odd anyway so I’m sure questions will be asked and answered and we can see what’s what with this...

How were they going to identify the low paid

[jet]

Not Corbyn patronising ethnic minorities with white supremacy, surely? :think:

[DemolitionRed]

It was the East Midlands Labour Party who made this decision and not the Labour Party as a whole. Their excuse is, its a talk about diversity and they want to encourage ethnic members. That's no excuse. East Midlands Labour Party shouldn't be trying to pull **** like this without talking to the people above them.

[joeysteele]

It was the East Midlands Labour Party who made this decision and not the Labour Party as a whole. Their excuse is, its a talk about diversity and they want to encourage ethnic members. That's no excuse. East Midlands Labour Party shouldn't be trying to pull **** like this without talking to the people above them.

I totally agree.
I am 100% sure Mrs May nor any other Party leader plans and organises these events.

You are correct it was wrong.

This couldn't happen in the area where I live and I wouldn't be impressed being a Labour party member myself, if it was attempted.

Good that it has been dealt with properly and quickly once known.

[jet]

It was the East Midlands Labour Party who made this decision and not the Labour Party as a whole. Their excuse is, its a talk about diversity and they want to encourage ethnic members. That's no excuse. East Midlands Labour Party shouldn't be trying to pull **** like this without talking to the people above them.

They were attending to listen to him speak. How do you know Corbyn was unaware of this? Do you have a link to his denial?

[Vicky.]

What an odd story. I genuinely do think Labour are imploding. There so much **** going on all at once that is somehow staying out of the main press somehow. Labour are just as ****ed as the Tories.

[Livia]

That's utter nonsense.


to paraphrase the immortal words of Mandy Rice-Davis, you would say that, wouldn't you.

[Livia]

They were attending to listen to him speak. How do you know Corbyn was unaware of this? Do you have a link to his denial?

A link to his inevitable denial... Can you imagine if this was the Conservatives saying that white people could have a discount? I think we'd see less sympathy and understanding.

[Northern Monkey]

How were they going to identify the low paid

Sniffer dogs at the entrance.

Any sign of Lynx or Impulse and it’s a tenner off

[Livia]

LOL... Lynx or Impulse...

[jet]

A link to his inevitable denial... Can you imagine if this was the Conservatives saying that white people could have a discount? I think we'd see less sympathy and understanding.

I can imagine it only too well...it would go something like this...:rant:

[Cherie]

Sniffer dogs at the entrance.

Any sign of Lynx or Impulse and it’s a tenner off

:joker:

[joeysteele]

to paraphrase the immortal words of Mandy Rice-Davis, you would say that, wouldn't you.

Yes I would indeed.
Because at meetings I sit alongside Jewish members who are desperate to see Labour in power.
In the election last year,I canvassed and helped Jewish candidates.

Labour does have Jewish MPs you know.,rightly so too who believe that party is the best for them.
Also rightly so.

We all battling together,doing our bit to get a Labour govt elected.
Your vision of the left and Labour bears no resemblance to all of us as Members no matter who we are.

Your comment came from a likely hate for the left and Labour.
My comment of that being nonsense comes from my knowledge of working alongside fellow Jewish Labour party members,yes members.
Socially and working for the party.

The Labour party does not hate or dislike the Jewish people,that's your intense dislike and misinformed opinion,that you love to hold against just about all on the left of politics.

[Brillopad]

Yes I would indeed.
Because at meetings I sit alongside Jewish members who are desperate to see Labour in power.
In the election last year,I canvassed and helped Jewish candidates.

Labour does have Jewish MPs you know.,rightly so too who believe that party is the best for them.
Also rightly so.

We all battling together,doing our bit to get a Labour govt elected.
Your vision of the left and Labour bears no resemblance to all of us as Members no matter who we are.

Your comment came from a likely hate for the left and Labour.
My comment of that being nonsense comes from my knowledge of working alongside fellow Jewish Labour party members,yes members.
Socially and working for the party.

The Labour party does not hate or dislike the Jewish people,that's your intense dislike and misinformed opinion,that you love to hold against just about all on the left of politics.

You can’t speak for the Labour Party as a whole because you don’t know most of them. Just maybe many of your comments come from your hate for the Tories and hence your eagerness to believe everything Labour say.

I am inclined to believe that Livia isn’t misinformed at all on this subject, neither do I believe she is influenced by hate. I think she thinks too logically for that.

[joeysteele]

You can’t speak for the Labour Party as a whole because you don’t know most of them. Just maybe many of your comments come from your hate for the Tories and hence your eagerness to believe everything Labour say.

I am inclined to believe that Livia isn’t misinformed at all on this subject, neither do I believe she is influenced by hate. I think she thinks too logically for that.

Of course you wouldn't agree with me,what's new.

I can speak far more as a member and activist going round the Country in elections for Labour than most on here who certainly are not members.

I've been on the receiving end of sheer nastiness because I changed my politics.
So don't lecture me thank you


Furthermore I do not hate the Cons.
I hate the policies of the current leadership and this govt.plus the Coalition too.

I have loads of Con supporter friends,none as vile towards Labour and myself as I've had to put up with on here.
I have said also,if you ever bothered to properly read my posts,rather than nitpicking and being sarcastic most of the time.
That I KNOW there are loads of decent Con MPs and I wish and hope they will soon take back the Cons to compassionate conservatism.
Which most of them are.

I keep saying this but honestly I couldn't care what you think as to my views or what I say because I don't give a jot to anything you spout off.

I am a member of the Labour party,so clearly ,I'll know a great deal more about it than someone who is NOT who only hates it and spouts that hate for it and the left of politics too regularly.
It's utter nonsense to claim Labour hates the Jewish people,total tripe
Just as it was claiming other things in a vile post that had to be removed as to the Labour party and the left.

I wouldn't be in the Party if I ever thought it hated the Jewish people, all I do is campaign,work with and socialise too,with my Jewish colleagues in Labour.
Who also wouldn't recognise the description of Labour and the left as to any hating of Jewish people.

That's a smokescreen from extreme Con supporters who hate the left to cloud over their own rotten govts.heartless cruel policies.

[Brillopad]

Of course you wouldn't agree with me,what's new.

I can speak far more as a member and activist going round the Country in elections for Labour than most on here who certainly are not members.

I've been on the receiving end of sheer nastiness because I changed my politics.
So don't lecture me thank you


Furthermore I do not hate the Cons.
I hate the policies of the current leadership and this govt.plus the Coalition too.

I have loads of Con supporter friends,none as vile towards Labour and myself as I've had to put up with on here.
I have said also,if you ever bothered to properly read my posts,rather than nitpicking and being sarcastic most of the time.
That I KNOW there are loads of decent Con MPs and I wish and hope they will soon take back the Cons to compassionate conservatism.
Which most of them are.

I keep saying this but honestly I couldn't care what you think as to my views or what I say because I don't give a jot to anything you spout off.

I am a member of the Labour party,so clearly ,I'll know a great deal more about it than someone who is NOT who only hates it and spouts that hate for it and the left of politics too regularly.
It's utter nonsense to claim Labour hates the Jewish people,total tripe
Just as it was claiming other things in a vile post that had to be removed as to the Labour party and the left.

I wouldn't be in the Party if I ever thought it hated the Jewish people, all I do is campaign,work with and socialise too,with my Jewish colleagues in Labour.
Who also wouldn't recognise the description of Labour and the left as to any hating of Jewish people.

That's a smokescreen from extreme Con supporters who hate the left to cloud over their own rotten govts.heartless cruel policies.

And maybe the people you accuse of hating labour just hate many of labour and corbyn’s policies. It works both ways.

[joeysteele]

And maybe the people you accuse of hating labour just hate many of labour and corbyn’s policies. It works both ways.

Never found them saying anything good about Labour or any of its recent leaders or PMs either,for that matter.

Calling the left things like red nazis,terrorist supporters and Jewish hating.
As to party and supporters from the left doesn't sound in any way rational to me or anything really to do with policies.

It likely does possibly.to you however.
Not me it doesn't thankfully.

[DemolitionRed]

The difference between the Cons and Labour is, one supports the Jewish state in Israel and one doesn't. Anyone who supports the Balfour Declaration will intensely dislike the Left.

[Livia]

Yes I would indeed.
Because at meetings I sit alongside Jewish members who are desperate to see Labour in power.
In the election last year,I canvassed and helped Jewish candidates.

Labour does have Jewish MPs you know.,rightly so too who believe that party is the best for them.
Also rightly so.

We all battling together,doing our bit to get a Labour govt elected.
Your vision of the left and Labour bears no resemblance to all of us as Members no matter who we are.

Your comment came from a likely hate for the left and Labour.
My comment of that being nonsense comes from my knowledge of working alongside fellow Jewish Labour party members,yes members.
Socially and working for the party.

The Labour party does not hate or dislike the Jewish people,that's your intense dislike and misinformed opinion,that you love to hold against just about all on the left of politics.


All that anecdotal evidence doesn't change the fact that Jews have been harassed and insulted by members of the Labour party generally.

And they do themselves no favours at all by getting a well-known supporter to investigate Antisemitism claims... and guess what? She said, nothing to see here! Just as expected. And nano-seconds later, she was made a Baroness. And then Labour have the bloody cheek to moan about the Tories' choice of award winners!

Your last paragraph is a ridiculous sweeping statement.

[Livia]

The difference between the Cons and Labour is, one supports the Jewish state in Israel and one doesn't. Anyone who supports the Balfour Declaration will intensely dislike the Left.

We're not talking about Israel. We're talking about Jews. I know Labour supporters try to use that excuse... but I'm afraid it doesn't cut it any more, it muddies the waters and insinuates Jewish people are either all Israel supporters, or that they don't understand the situation like you do.

[Vicky.]

I am a member of the Labour party,so clearly ,I'll know a great deal more about it than someone who is NOT who only hates it and spouts that hate for it and the left of politics too regularly.
It's utter nonsense to claim Labour hates the Jewish people,total tripe
Just as it was claiming other things in a vile post that had to be removed as to the Labour party and the left.


There are obvious problems within the Labour party with Antisemitism. of course this does not mean ever single Labour MP hates Jews or anything, or even that most of them do. But there is an obvious problem.

The 'vile post' you mention was deleted by me. As they had already attempted to doxx me, so I figured that linking myself on here would make things much worse. It was not removed for any other reason, nor did it have to be removed, I removed it for my privacy given they are already basically cyber-stalking me. But yes, Labour members, and staff, are compiling files on women who do not agree male people are female, and attempting to get them kicked out of the party. They are breaking data protection laws also, by publicly publishing peoples membership numbers. Though they have clicked onto this and have NOW made the files private, not before the police were informed and many many screenshots taken to prove that they are breaking the law and harassing people though. Adding the deletion message to this post, though it may not be readable..hopefully it is.

I actually really want to undelete it now since you seem to think its not true and thats why it was deleted... It is definitely true, I was a victim of the misogynists and the admin of the group who are doing this, is a current Labour Womens Officer.

I have absolutely no need to be smearing Labour. I am/was a Labour voter ffs and would actually like to be able to vote for them next time, am naturally left leaning. But I cannot vote for them while they are allowing behavior like this to go on, or whilst they are being so utterly ridiculous. I cannot bring myself to vote Tory, even if I wanted to, and the rest are pretty much wasted votes anyway. There is no party for me to vote for currently, and thats quite concerning.

[Livia]

There are obvious problems within the Labour party with Antisemitism. of course this does not mean ever single Labour MP hates Jews or anything, or even that most of them do. But there is an obvious problem.

The 'vile post' you mention was deleted by me. As they had already attempted to doxx me, so I figured that linking myself on here would make things much worse. It was not removed for any other reason, nor did it have to be removed, I removed it for my privacy given they are already basically cyber-stalking me. But yes, Labour members, and staff, are compiling files on women who do not agree male people are female, and attempting to get them kicked out of the party. They are breaking data protection laws also, by publicly publishing peoples membership numbers. Though they have clicked onto this and have NOW made the files private, not before the police were informed and many many screenshots taken to prove that they are breaking the law and harassing people though. Adding the deletion message to this post, though it may not be readable..hopefully it is.

I actually really want to undelete it now since you seem to think its not true and thats why it was deleted... It is definitely true, I was a victim of the misogynists and the admin of the group who are doing this, is a current Labour Womens Officer.

I have absolutely no need to be smearing Labour. I am/was a Labour voter ffs and would actually like to be able to vote for them next time, am naturally left leaning. But I cannot vote for them while they are allowing behavior like this to go on, or whilst they are being so utterly ridiculous. I cannot bring myself to vote Tory, even if I wanted to, and the rest are pretty much wasted votes anyway. There is no party for me to vote for currently, and thats quite concerning.

I agree... particularly with the first para... it's not all Labour supporters.

[smudgie]

There are obvious problems within the Labour party with Antisemitism. of course this does not mean ever single Labour MP hates Jews or anything, or even that most of them do. But there is an obvious problem.

The 'vile post' you mention was deleted by me. As they had already attempted to doxx me, so I figured that linking myself on here would make things much worse. It was not removed for any other reason, nor did it have to be removed, I removed it for my privacy given they are already basically cyber-stalking me. But yes, Labour members, and staff, are compiling files on women who do not agree male people are female, and attempting to get them kicked out of the party. They are breaking data protection laws also, by publicly publishing peoples membership numbers. Though they have clicked onto this and have NOW made the files private, not before the police were informed and many many screenshots taken to prove that they are breaking the law and harassing people though. Adding the deletion message to this post, though it may not be readable..hopefully it is.

I actually really want to undelete it now since you seem to think its not true and thats why it was deleted... It is definitely true, I was a victim of the misogynists and the admin of the group who are doing this, is a current Labour Womens Officer.

I have absolutely no need to be smearing Labour. I am/was a Labour voter ffs and would actually like to be able to vote for them next time, am naturally left leaning. But I cannot vote for them while they are allowing behavior like this to go on, or whilst they are being so utterly ridiculous. I cannot bring myself to vote Tory, even if I wanted to, and the rest are pretty much wasted votes anyway. There is no party for me to vote for currently, and thats quite concerning.

Strewth.
The world is mad.

[AnnieK]

Jesus Vicky...that's crazy

[DemolitionRed]

We're not talking about Israel. We're talking about Jews. I know Labour supporters try to use that excuse... but I'm afraid it doesn't cut it any more, it muddies the waters and insinuates Jewish people are either all Israel supporters, or that they don't understand the situation like you do.

Oh I think I understand it more than you think. We aren't though, allowed to talk about ziionism or anti-zionism on here but we can bastardize anything else.