Celebrity Big Brother USA - Episodes Discussion Thread - Premieres Feb 8th at 1AM UK

[Eddie.]

Grodner rigging at its very best...

[JerseyWins]

Lady O from the projects to the White House :love:

Great speech :joker:

[SoberLikeGizmo]

Marrisa won?

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[JerseyWins]

Omggggg this ex-hgs texting comp is sooo cringe thankfully I can just skip over this :laugh2:

Marrisa won?

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I'm pretty disgusted :yuk:

I'm guessing the jury were "bitter" or they were judging it based on who knows what considering they all seemed to view her as a huge threat to win for whatever reason. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Geeeez how did Marissa win after these speeches tho? :skull: It's sort of like the textbook "I played this game for us to make it to the final" with the 2nd placer just kinda bowing out for the other one to win. Yikes, I kinda feel bad for Ross. He wasn't even really villainous to get the bitter "just vote the other person" anti-vote.

Hahaha @ them having to explain the voting rules carefully to Metta. :laugh3: Also LOL @ overhearing them discussing who they're going to vote for... "She has kids" :laugh2: (lol @ the explaining to Metta happening a second time when he goes to vote)

Metta picking at random.... :skull: :laugh2:

The voting actually seems heavily in Marissa's favor here. Ross seems to know it too lol. :( A shame, he deserved it.

Lmao @ Shannon getting Greatest Player Ever praise as a 9th placer of 11 :love: :love: :love:

Well Brandi was right, her goodbye message was a lot worse. James' was funnier.

Me dreading this vote reveal https://i.imgur.com/EP4krgk.gif

Straaange @ Ross beating Shannon & James for AFP as well.

Welp. That was a finale of Big Brother. No announcement of an All Stars season for BB20 either? :(

A very good season nonetheless :clap1: However, 2 basically quit-evictions, a bit of a dull finish and a winner I'm not very happy with hurt it a bit but it's still one of the more entertaining seasons and being short actually probably helped.

[Matthew.]

oh my god best winner in ages :love:

[Headie]

SCREAMING how did Marissa win? :joker:

At least Ross lost <333 Jury management almost worse than Paul <3

[Matthew.]

dont know why people are annoyed, putting my opinion aside, surely Marissa is a better winner than Mark????

[Pete.]

Marissa winning is hilarious :joker: Good for her

[Pete.]

Why didn’t Ari win AFP is the real question

[Epic.]

Great season but AWFUL final two for the WORST two of the season, TERRIBLE winner. Ross is America's WORST Player too, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

[Headie]

Also Omarosa thanking Grodner in her speech <3

[starry]

Joke ending to a joke season, at least Survivor (where there is real gameplay) is coming soon.

[Gstar]

Enjoyed the season, glad I stuck with it. Was rooting for Oma/Ari but happy Marissa beat ross

[Gstar]

Definitely catching up on the older seasons I’ve missed :love:

[LukeB]

Omarosa is the real winner since her fee is more than the prize money

[Cal.]

Sad Oma or Ari didn’t win.

[Captain.Remy]

In the end Ross didn't come off as genuine as Marissa, his speech was too rehearsed and he tried to force it down the jury's throat. And then Marissa won lmaolmaolmaolmao

Good season, I actually liked it and was well executed. And Omarosa is the real winner for real for real.

[Wojtek]

Marissa is such a random winner :love:

[BBUK-Fan]

Marissa wasn't a very good winner. She win for being nice when Ross actually played the game best

[Epic.]

She's not a very nice person let's be real

[Underscore]

sad omarosa didn't win but happy with a marissa win :love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

lol I actually really vibe with this ending, if only for the neckbeards at Reddit fuming over Ross losing bc of a ~bitter jury~ :love: ESPECIALLY when they all say that Shannon sucked bc she played too hard too fast and As A True Superfan she should have voted for Ross, but when Ross played too hard it's everyone else's fault.

[Jason.]

I decided to spoil the result for myself to see if it's worth watching and I'm glad I did because I'm not going to waste two hours on THAT.

Ross AFP? :umm2:

[Epic.]

When Shannon was asked right after Mark and Ariadna left who she wouldn't want to see in the final two and she said Ross and Marissa :joker: same :love:

[Jason.]

That top 3. :omgno:

[RileyH]

Ross AFP? :umm2:

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[lewis111]

Not my ideal top 2 or winner but meh no one was a nasty person they both seemed lovely I was just more drawn to Ari and Oma

[reece(:]

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[reece(:]

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[reece(:]

lmao at Ika asking her about the Omarosa cough

[Morgan.]

As much as I love Ari to bits and wanted her to take it, I'd have paid good money to see her reach Final 2 and then Julie say the wrong names and tell her she's won but actually come second.

Or AFP which would be a little less disheartening

[Jason.]

NcHDoT1qdhQ

:love:

[Jason.]

Ika obviously doesn't like her though. :joker:

[LukeB]

Ika obviously doesn't like her though. :joker:

She doesn't </3

I don't get the hate lol

some on twitter turned on her as soon as Omarosa pulled the race card (which is ok but you worked for a racist for two years) it was OTT

[Jason.]

She doesn't </3

I don't get the hate lol

some on twitter turned on her as soon as Omarosa pulled the race card (which is ok but you worked for a racist for two years) it was OTT

BBUS fans being scum on Twitter.

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[reece(:]

Ross "Winning AFP is the real CROWN! I feel accepted after being the different one since I was a child"

:skull:

and bye at Ika shading Shannon being in AFP Top 3 in the Ross vid. :(

[reece(:]

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mess at the tension between these two :skull:

[Jason.]

Ika is clearly jelly Shannon was a comp beast and didn't have to rely on a man to carry her!

[reece(:]

The robbed F2

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[Gstar]

Do the housemates get to keep the prize money for themselves or do they give it to charity?

[LukeB]

Do the housemates get to keep the prize money for themselves or do they give it to charity?

Keep it for themselves, it's up to them if they want to give it to charity. Shannon would have

[Natawho]

The robbed F2

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Love them so glad they made it all the way to Finale night <3

[Natawho]

Marissa is an alright winner, she didn't exactly float as everyone in the house knew where she stood for the duration yet didn't get rid of her... It's her social game that won it, think she's a bit underrated IMO. Ross wasn't robbed either, he wouldn't have won over any single one of the other finalists (including Oma), he just never owned any of his actions and was constantly frowning. Marissa's reunion with her son was cute :clap1: Oma and Ari best friendship to come out of Big Brother :clap1: good job CBS :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

NcHDoT1qdhQ
What a QUEEN :love:

Shannon to be on the next All Stars and go head to head with Ms. Rousso?

[Jason.]

Shannon to be on the next All Stars and go head to head with Ms. Rousso?

Don't you do this to me! Don't you DARE do this to me!

[Gstar]

Keep it for themselves, it's up to them if they want to give it to charity. Shannon would have

They get their fee and prize money :clap1: broke BBUK can never

[JerseyWins]

Don't you do this to me! Don't you DARE do this to me!
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[starry]

Shannon would probably fit even better on the Canadian version.

[BBUK-Fan]

The jury were just bitter and Ross played the better game.

[Macie Lightfoot]

if he had played a better game he would have received more than 3 jury votes

[Morgan.]

if he had played a better game he would have received more than 3 jury votes

He played one of th best games he was just faced with a bitter jury that were blind to that. And his Jury management was ****e too.

[Epic.]

He played one of th best games he was just faced with a bitter jury that were blind to that. And his Jury management was ****e too.

'BuT SHANNON iS tHE BeSt BiG BrOtHeR pLAyER EVER' https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/bigbrother/images/9/9f/CBBUS1_Small_Ross.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/100?cb=20180203030207

[Morgan.]

'BuT SHANNON iS tHE BeSt BiG BrOtHeR pLAyER EVER' https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/bigbrother/images/9/9f/CBBUS1_Small_Ross.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/100?cb=20180203030207

Hardly

[LukeB]

He played one of th best games he was just faced with a bitter jury that were blind to that. And his Jury management was ****e too.

Jury management is important and part of the game play so he didn't really play a good game.

The jury were not bitter.

[Morgan.]

Jury management is important and part of the game play so he didn't really play a good game.

The jury were not bitter.

His actual game was good, winning comps when he needed and removing threats. It was just that portion of Jury that he failed in.

And the Jury were bitter. Even Shannon, one of the biggest BB Superfans there is, said that no matter who he was sat next to she wouldn't vote Ross because of how he played.

Despite me not even wanting Ross to win, remember, I do think that she is a bitter juror as she is letting her experience influence her vote.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I do think that she is a bitter juror as she is letting her experience influence her vote.

what the hell else is she supposed to let influence her vote?????

[Morgan.]

what the hell else is she supposed to let influence her vote?????

She is supposed to look at the game and the bigger picture, and look how people played it, then vote for who played it best. I loved Marissa and wanted her to win but she did not have a better game than Ross.

[LukeB]

His actual game was good, winning comps when he needed and removing threats. It was just that portion of Jury that he failed in.

And the Jury were bitter. Even Shannon, one of the biggest BB Superfans there is, said that no matter who he was sat next to she wouldn't vote Ross because of how he played.

Despite me not even wanting Ross to win, remember, I do think that she is a bitter juror as she is letting her experience influence her vote.

There's much more to the game than winning comps and removing threats, it's the way you do it and manage the jury. The jury got to watch so it may have been different if they couldn't. No one was bitter, he failed with his jury management and that's his fault. His game has already been done before and they won but he was against trash so ofc he would win.

[Morgan.]

There's much more to the game than winning comps and removing threats, it's the way you do it and manage the jury. The jury got to watch so it may have been different if they couldn't. No one was bitter, he failed with his jury management and that's his fault. His game has already been done before and they won but he was against trash so ofc he would win.

I think most of the Jury said they didn't watch, like, any or the prior episodes or the latter episodes :joker:

[Epic.]

She is supposed to look at the game and the bigger picture, and look how people played it, then vote for who played it best. I loved Marissa and wanted her to win but she did not have a better game than Ross.

But Shannon still thought Ross played the 'game' in question too dirty sometimes, which he did.

[Morgan.]

But Shannon still thought Ross played the 'game' in question too dirty sometimes, which he did.

You can argue that previous winners under this format, for example BBCAN5 Kevin, played the game very dirty and still won.

Idk I'm tired and probably not making any sense in anything rn

[LukeB]

I think most of the Jury said they didn't watch, like, any or the prior episodes or the latter episodes :joker:

then the last impression of Ross was not good?

This is how Paul lost twice!

[RileyH]

'BuT SHANNON iS tHE BeSt BiG BrOtHeR pLAyER EVER' https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/bigbrother/images/9/9f/CBBUS1_Small_Ross.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/100?cb=20180203030207

:joker:

[LukeB]

You can argue that previous winners under this format, for example BBCAN5 Kevin, played the game very dirty and still won.

Idk I'm tired and probably not making any sense in anything rn

Kevin had a better social game than Karen. Anyone would have won against Karen in that top 4.

[Jack_]

Honestly, I don't even think this jury were that bitter? It's not like any of these houseguests were that dislikable, or awful people...in the end I think it just came down to the fact that Marissa had more social connections with people and was more humble and emotive in her speech (about not expecting to be there)...whereas Ross was just proclaiming he knew he'd be in the final two :shrug: oh, and she had a massive advantage in the fact that most of the women wanted a woman to win

I wanted Ross to win but I don't really think there was much else he could've done tbh? This is less a reflection on what he did wrong and more on what she did right.

[LukeB]

Yeah Big Brother is a social experiment even with a different format you need a social game and not focus on making big moves and winning comps. If you weren't that social with the jury like have connections with them etc or you treated them badly then you won't win.

[Morgan.]

I haven't watched Finale yet except from clips and interviews but there was no Jury roundtable prevote right? I think Ross could've stood a chance with that in place imo

[Jack_]

Yeah Big Brother is a social experiment even with a different format you need a social game and not focus on making big moves and winning comps. If you weren't that social with the jury like have connections with them etc or you treated them badly then you won't win.

To be fair, I think Ross had a pretty good social game - it's just that in the end Marissa ended up having a better one. Hardly winning any comps and not having to nominate and target people in the way he did all season (and his big DR presence on the episodes) probably played a part too

I haven't watched Finale yet except from clips and interviews but there was no Jury roundtable prevote right? I think Ross could've stood a chance with that in place imo

No, and that would definitely need to be rectified if they do another season

Shannon made a good point in her Ika interview actually that that was part of the reason why all the jurors were conferring with each other because they hadn't had a chance to talk beforehand. An oversight on Grodner's part tbh

[Macie Lightfoot]

She is supposed to look at the game and the bigger picture, and look how people played it, then vote for who played it best. I loved Marissa and wanted her to win but she did not have a better game than Ross.

She's supposed to vote however the hell she wants to, not based off of some arbitrary criteria that a Big Brother winner MUST execute two separate blindsides and be nominated no more than three times and win a minimum of three Competitions or whatever else. Whoever played the "best" game is completely subjective because each Juror has a different set of criteria and they value different qualities. That's the entire essence of shows like Big Brother and Survivor -- the only rules are that you can't be voted out and you need your peers to vote for you to win in the end. If the juries were all to vote "objectively," (literally what does that even mean, this isn't maths class where there is one right answer) then the whole point of a jury vote and a roundtable and live interrogation would be meaningless and there would be no suspense in watching the finale.

[Macie Lightfoot]

k so I'm late to the party but I finally finished my edgic

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