shane J to win!

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i don’t like him all that much tbh but he must win, for the gays!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

[y.winter]

http://www.kiss925.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2016/03/SATURDAY-MEGHAN-NEW-SONG.png

[BBUK-Fan]

No

[thisisdanny]

i don’t like him all that much tbh but he must win, for the gays!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

Would rather Wayne

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

http://www.kiss925.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2016/03/SATURDAY-MEGHAN-NEW-SONG.png

No

LOVE IS LOVE!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

[Jase.]

Shane L*

[joeysteele]

He's been in my top 3 from the start,he's now my favourite and will get my votes to win.

For himself not for his sexual orientation.

[rph]

i don’t like him all that much tbh but he must win, for the gays!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

YES FROM ME!

[Patricia4]

No thanks

[Denver]

Says it all when everyone wants a man to win in the year of women #Sexism

[Paula D]

For the gays? Jesus H Christ.

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[Ant.]

For the gays? Jesus H Christ.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

Yes for the gays!

Sent from my gaydar using Grindr

[T*]

we're queer, we're here, anne's a douche, get used to it!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

[Jase.]

Yes for the gays!

Sent from my gaydar using Grindr

:skull: :skull:

[susie q]

Says it all when everyone wants a man to win in the year of women #Sexism

Sexism, like ageism continues to be acceptable, unfortunately. Out of the gay people in the house I would prefer either Amanda or Wayne.

[Jake.]

Yes for the gays!

Sent from my gaydar using Grindr

:joker::joker:

[susie q]

we're queer, we're here, anne's a douche, get used to it!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

can you imagine the fall out on here if anyone dared to say something as disgusting as this about Shane J. I really do hate double standards.

[Ant.]

can you imagine the fall out on here if anyone dared to say something as disgusting as this about Shane J. I really do hate double standards.

I think people have said worse than "Shane J is a douche"

[MB.]

Yes for the gays!

Sent from my gaydar using Grindr

Grindr to be behind yet another successful BB victory campaign?

[Ant.]

Grindr to be behind yet another successful BB victory campaign?

:joker:

Issy's winning campaign :love:

[rionablue]

i don’t like him all that much tbh but he must win, for the gays!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

Not after tonight and the way he has been in general since the lads gang went. I have gone right off him

[Puterrico]

Amanda speaks for the gays more than Shane j mostly because she doesn’t speak about it every minute. All Shane j has to him are his petty labels to hide his bipolar and lack of real substance

[Crimson Dynamo]

I hope he falls over and breaks his wig

[Tom4784]

can you imagine the fall out on here if anyone dared to say something as disgusting as this about Shane J. I really do hate double standards.

Double standards you've just invented on the spot, you mean?

I don't think anyone would lose their **** over someone calling Courtney a douche, such a tame insult is not worth anyone's bother. People are opposing Ann because she's a homophobe and championing Shane because he is standing in opposition of her.

[Robodog]

For the gays (!!)

I know some 'gays' who don't like Shane J

They think he is sneaky, self-serving and stereo-typical to women when he dresses up as Courtney

So not all gays then

[Oaker]

I don't even like him but I hope he wins now because Ann's such a vile bitch and he needs to take her down.

[poppsywoppsy]

Double standards you've just invented on the spot, you mean?

I don't think anyone would lose their **** over someone calling Courtney a douche, such a tame insult is not worth anyone's bother. People are opposing Ann because she's a homophobe and championing Shane because he is standing in opposition of her.

More people will than you think.

Andrews demise was a prime example.

[Binbin]

Ann 'British Snaggletooth' Widdicombe vs. some guy called Shane? There can be only one winner.

If Genuwine outlasting John Barnes (albeit by only a few hours) wasn't bad enough, to see the Greatest Minister for Prisons the UK has every seen (fact!) beaten by some guy called Shane would be soooo 'Saturday morning TV'.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

[rusticgal]

i don’t like him all that much tbh but he must win, for the gays!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif


What a stupid comment...

Imagine someone coming on here and saying Shane L must win because he is straight...ffs.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

What a stupid comment...

Imagine someone coming on here and saying Shane L must win because he is straight...ffs.

that would be homophobic

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

[rusticgal]

that would be homophobic

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif


And you are being heterophobic...:shrug:

[Robertocarlo]

Yes, Shane J to win none of the others deserve to win now I have the measure of them after their time in the BBH. :dance::dance::dance:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

And you are being heterophobic...:shrug:

there’s no such thing

the straighties made this up

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

[rusticgal]

there’s no such thing

the straighties made this up

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif


You are in denial...look it up.

[rusticgal]

there’s no such thing

the straighties made this up

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif


You are in denial...look it up.

[GoldHeart]

What a stupid comment...

Imagine someone coming on here and saying Shane L must win because he is straight...ffs.

:clap1:

[Withano]

For the gays (!!)

I know some 'gays' who don't like Shane J


Not closet straighties.

[Paula D]

You are in denial...look it up.Obviously on a wind up rusti, I wouldn't bother.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

[Ammi]

...I’m kind of thinking a female will win because of the year of the woman etc...

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Not closet straighties.

:joker::joker:

[caprimint]

A true King of representing everything right in the world :clap1:

[Vanessa]

He has my vote to win. :love:

[Jamie89]

He'd be a worthy winner, but it's Amanda for me

[Kazanne]

I don't even like him but I hope he wins now because Ann's such a vile bitch and he needs to take her down.

It's a GAME, get a bloody grip:smug:

[Marches]

A Shane j win would be like the worst cbb winner ever considering the implications of it

Yes it’d be even worse than the fking train wreck that is bear

[poppsywoppsy]

there’s no such thing

the straighties made this up

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

Try looking the word heterophobic in the dictionary

Bet you won't copy it word for word and write what it says on here

You have really not helped by showing such a lack of intellect to write such a ridiculous statement. It just shows how little you understand.

[chuff me dizzy]

What a stupid comment...

Imagine someone coming on here and saying Shane L must win because he is straight...ffs.

Jesus how sad are some folk Rusti ? NO ONE represents me I am old enough and capable enough to to that for myself........ how shallow ?

[Marches]

there’s no such thing

the straighties made this up

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

I bet you’re one of those people that are like ‘but majorities can’t be discriminated against’ and ‘only men rape’

[Livia]

Sexism, like ageism continues to be acceptable, unfortunately. Out of the gay people in the house I would prefer either Amanda or Wayne.

Me too. I'm tired of the soapboxing going on. Some of the younger gays can't accept how much is changing and how quickly it's changing, for the better, they actually want to be able to police people's thoughts and opinions. Takes some older gay people to show them how to share and play nicely.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Try looking the word heterophobic in the dictionary

Bet you won't copy it word for word and write what it says on here

You have really not helped by showing such a lack of intellect to write such a ridiculous statement. It just shows how little you understand.

it isn’t in the dictionary because straighties made it up! they just wanted their own version of homophobia because they’re greedy and entitled

it’s literally “they have homophobia? then WE SHOULD HAVE HETEROPHOBIA”

a “they have black history month but we don’t have white history month” tea

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

‘but majorities can’t be discriminated against’ and ‘only men rape’

tea!

finally someone talking sense

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

[Marches]

it isn’t in the dictionary because straighties made it up! they just wanted their own version of homophobia because they’re greedy and entitled

it’s literally “they have homophobia? then WE SHOULD HAVE HETEROPHOBIA”

a “they have black history month but we don’t have white history month” tea

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

It’s not about having fking words. Just bc ur community is a minority doesn’t mean the majority can’t suffer discrimination what backwards logic

[Bones]

i don’t like him all that much tbh but he must win, for the gays!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

Nah, get him out. And Malika.

[poppsywoppsy]

it isn’t in the dictionary because straighties made it up! they just wanted their own version of homophobia because they’re greedy and entitled

it’s literally “they have homophobia? then WE SHOULD HAVE HETEROPHOBIA”

a “they have black history month but we don’t have white history month” tea

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

You cannot just make things up, nobody can, but nice try.

[Miranda123]

i don’t like him all that much tbh but he must win, for the gays!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d781c4c6f7f3eef60ffcca07e07/tumblr_oj77aaGJB21vbcnq8o1_500.gif

several of my friends are gay, but oddly, they actually talk about other subjects, like movies, music, clothes, holidays etc

Shane J is a one trick pony

Im Gay, Im Gay, Im Gay, oh by the way, did you know Im gay

He doesnt seem to be able to handle the fact that nobody gives a ****, if he is gay or not, they wanted to talk to him, not the Gay spokesman of the world

If he ever gets the f..k over himself, he might be a fairly nice guy, but right now, he just needs to understand that life does not revolve around him, not sure he can deal with that though

Hope he goes tonight, really hoping

[Tom4784]

Homosexuality is fine, just as long as you're quiet about it!

[Marches]

Homophobia is less of an issue if homosexuality were ignored rather than celebrated. When you champion something like sexuality said people feel entitled, and stop wanting equal treatment but special treatment.

[Tom4784]

Homophobia is less of an issue if homosexuality were ignored rather than celebrated. When you champion something like sexuality said people feel entitled, and stop wanting equal treatment but special treatment.

Can you provide an example of this?

[Marches]

Can you provide an example of this?

Shane Jenek

Look how entitled he is

[Paula D]

Homosexuality is fine, just as long as you're quiet about it!


Sorry Dezzy but that's BS. The vast majority of people in this world are quiet about their sexuality.

We don't go round all day talking about our sexuality.

It's not the number 1 defining factor of someone's personality and if you genuinely think it is then it's a little scary.

[Tom4784]

Shane Jenek

Look how entitled he is

How is he entitled? Explain it to me.

[Marches]

How is he entitled? Explain it to me.

Demanding tolerance from others then when things don’t go his way he resorts to bullying

[Paula D]

Can you provide an example of this?

I'll give you an example, I've asked a number of times now what rights exactly do gay people in the UK not have and no-one has answered.

I can only take from that there are not rights that they don't have so why are they constantly screaming gay rights?

[Tom4784]

Sorry Dezzy but that's BS. The vast majority of people in this world are quiet about their sexuality.

We don't go round all day talking about our sexuality.

It's not the number 1 defining factor of someone's personality and if you genuinely think it is then it's a little scary.

You don't feel the need to talk about your sexuality because heterosexuality is universally accepted, no heterosexual person has ever had to fight for equal rights as a heterosexual. The problem here is you can't empathise with circumstances outside of your own.

You think gay people don't need to talk about their sexuality because you don't have to as a heterosexual but the thing is, if an LGBT person stays quiet about the injustices they face then those injustices keep happening. Your discomfort doesn't really matter much when you match it against raising awareness of issues that plague the gay community.

[Paula D]

You don't feel the need to talk about your sexuality because heterosexuality is universally accepted, no heterosexual person has ever had to fight for equal rights as a heterosexual. The problem here is you can't empathise with circumstances outside of your own.

You think gay people don't need to talk about their sexuality because you don't have to as a heterosexual but the thing is, if an LGBT person stays quiet about the injustices they face then those injustices keep happening. Your discomfort doesn't really matter much when you match it against raising awareness of issues that plague the gay community.

How do you know what my sexuality is?

And for that matter how do you know what I think?

Also what are all these injustices you speak of? I've asked for examples about 10 times now, no-one has given me any.

[poppsywoppsy]

I'll give you an example, I've asked a number of times now what rights exactly do gay people in the UK not have and no-one has answered.

I can only take from that there are not rights that they don't have so why are they constantly screaming gay rights?

This takes me back to my college days where an offender from the local jail was on day release on our course.

He screamed human rights at us constantly as if it was applicable only to him.

My point is, we all have rights, if they conflict, work it out, don't gang up, don't harass and work together. If it is not possible, don't drag up old issues, hear each other, draw a line under them and move forward.

[Marches]

You don't feel the need to talk about your sexuality because heterosexuality is universally accepted, no heterosexual person has ever had to fight for equal rights as a heterosexual. The problem here is you can't empathise with circumstances outside of your own.

You think gay people don't need to talk about their sexuality because you don't have to as a heterosexual but the thing is, if an LGBT person stays quiet about the injustices they face then those injustices keep happening. Your discomfort doesn't really matter much when you match it against raising awareness of issues that plague the gay community.

But first gay people aren’t experiencing like mass discrimination. The discrimination they are experiencing is bad but I feel the best way to combat it is to have NORMAL gay people show that they are more than their sexuality on tv and other media. It normalises it and makes people more comfortable around them. People like Shane j are alienating the gay community in a way, making them look like attention seekers.

[Tom4784]

Demanding tolerance from others then when things don’t go his way he resorts to bullying

Can you provide an example of Shane J demanding tolerance from others?

[Tom4784]

But first gay people aren’t experiencing like mass discrimination. The discrimination they are experiencing is bad but I feel the best way to combat it is to have NORMAL gay people show that they are more than their sexuality on tv and other media. It normalises it and makes people more comfortable around them. People like Shane j are alienating the gay community in a way, making them look like attention seekers.

How do you know what discrimination a gay person faces on a regular basis? Unless you're part of the LGBT yourself then you can't really know.

As for the rest of your post, you're basically saying what I mocked in that 'Gay people are okay, just be quiet about it' post. Being gay is only okay if you can pass for normal, being gay is only okay if you don't consider it a massive part of who you are, being gay is only okay if the gays minimise their gayness as to not offend others.

Gay people don't make themselves look like attention seekers for embracing their sexuality, that's just what people who are uncomfortable with gay people being comfortable with who they are think.

[Tom4784]

This takes me back to my college days where an offender from the local jail was on day release on our course.

He screamed human rights at us constantly as if it was applicable only to him.

My point is, we all have rights, if they conflict, work it out, don't gang up, don't harass and work together. If it is not possible, don't drag up old issues, hear each other, draw a line under them and move forward.

Equating criminals with gay people, are we?

[Ant.]

I'll give you an example, I've asked a number of times now what rights exactly do gay people in the UK not have and no-one has answered.

I can only take from that there are not rights that they don't have so why are they constantly screaming gay rights?

I mean, shockingly, the UK is not representative of the entire world, and even the likes of the USA doesn't have equal rights for LGBT people
https://www.ranker.com/list/8-things-gay-people-can_t-do/cdu827 (a tad outdated given the marriage one)
http://wyomingequality.org/half-of-straight-americans-think-lgbt-people-have-equal-rights/

Also given Shane J is from Australia, his talk of LGBT rights clearly stems from his upbringing in Australia, which is less progressive than the UK. I don't think he has ever said "UK should have equal rights for LGBT people but not Australia!!!". In fact, I've never heard him specifically mention the UK?
https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/sexuality/agenda/article/2016/08/12/definitive-timeline-lgbt-rights-australia
The Northern Territory has not yet legislated to allow same-sex couples to adopt.

South Australia is yet to overturn the gay panic defence.

Transgender people are unable to change the sex listed on their birth certificate without medical intervention, except in the ACT and South Australia.

Married transgender people must divorce their partners to transition on official documents.

Men who have had sex with men in the previous 12 months are barred from donating blood.

Religious schools and hospitals are exempted from LGBT anti-discrimination laws in Australia.

Also, just because LGBT people have equal rights (as far as I'm aware) in the UK, doesn't mean that they're exactly equal... they're still subject to discrimination, and Shane J has spoken out about treating LGBT people equally, so it's not as if this concept isn't one Shane J hasn't advocated for

So tl;dr, they're 'constantly screaming' gay rights because in places like Australia and the USA, there are still laws against LGBT people, and in other places gay people can be killed for being gay

[Paula D]

I mean, shockingly, the UK is not representative of the entire world, and even the likes of the USA doesn't have equal rights for LGBT people
https://www.ranker.com/list/8-things-gay-people-can_t-do/cdu827 (a tad outdated given the marriage one)
http://wyomingequality.org/half-of-straight-americans-think-lgbt-people-have-equal-rights/

Also given Shane J is from Australia, his talk of LGBT rights clearly stems from his upbringing in Australia, which is less progressive than the UK. I don't think he has ever said "UK should have equal rights for LGBT people but not Australia!!!". In fact, I've never heard him specifically mention the UK?
https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/sexuality/agenda/article/2016/08/12/definitive-timeline-lgbt-rights-australia


Also, just because LGBT people have equal rights (as far as I'm aware) in the UK, doesn't mean that they're exactly equal... they're still subject to discrimination, and Shane J has spoken out about treating LGBT people equally, so it's not as if this concept isn't one Shane J hasn't advocated for

So tl;dr, they're 'constantly screaming' gay rights because in places like Australia and the USA, there are still laws against LGBT people, and in other places gay people can be killed for being gay

The reason I mentioned UK is because he's on a UK show with a UK audience talking about a UK politician.

Not going to change the world love, whatever way you look at it.

[Tom4784]

You seem intent on shutting down any talks of gay rights.

[Ant.]

The reason I mentioned UK is because he's on a UK show with a UK audience talking about a UK politician.

Not going to change the world love, whatever way you look at it.

I don't see how being on a UK show and having a UK audience means that he can't talk about LGBT rights elsewhere...? :shrug:
As for 'talking about a UK politician', he's saying that she voted against a lot of LGBT laws, which is true. Do I agree with how he tried to turn Amanda against Ann? Not particularly, and yes Ann didn't end up having her way in the end, but I'm pretty sure he recognises that they were all passed, and if he didn't Amanda told him they were

... I don't think Shane J is trying to change the world? He's just bringing up issues and making people realise LGBT people aren't equal in the world

[Marches]

How do you know what discrimination a gay person faces on a regular basis? Unless you're part of the LGBT yourself then you can't really know.

As for the rest of your post, you're basically saying what I mocked in that 'Gay people are okay, just be quiet about it' post. Being gay is only okay if you can pass for normal, being gay is only okay if you don't consider it a massive part of who you are, being gay is only okay if the gays minimise their gayness as to not offend others.

Gay people don't make themselves look like attention seekers for embracing their sexuality, that's just what people who are uncomfortable with gay people being comfortable with who they are think.

I wouldn’t group myself as part of lgbt because I don’t like the community and the way they go about acceptance but I am gay

[Paula D]

You seem intent on shutting down any talks of gay rights.

Not at all, just Shane J's obsessive carry on.

[Marches]

And ffs it’s just a sexuality it shouldn’t have connotations or anything you don’t see people generalising straight people but you see people generalise gay people all the time at the fault of the community

I’m saying shut up about being gay because we have equal rights here so the next step is to normalise being gay. Making a big deal out of it isn’t normalising it, it’s making it a big deal in both, I guess you could say, positive and negative ways

[Paula D]

And ffs it’s just a sexuality it shouldn’t have connotations or anyth8ng you don’t see people generalising straight people but you see people generalise gay people all the time at the fault of the community

I’m saying shut up about being gay because we have equal rights here so the next step is to normalise being gay. Making a big deal out of it isn’t normalising it, it’s making it a big deal in both, I guess you could say, positive and negative ways

Well said, better than I can say it.

To normalise something people first have to stop making it into a huge thing.

It's the reason children have no prejudices because they don't see any differences between people. It's only when others point out that another person is different or that person themselves screams that they're different that it becomes an issue.

For me it's a bit like India, before she went in BB I'd seen her news-reading, never knew she was transgender and always thought she was nice, then I found out she was transgender I was like "jaysus, fair play to her, she's a gorgeous woman, be good to see what her personality is like".

Then she kept ON AND ON AND ON about it until everyone in the house and outside got fed up hearing it.

She has since admitted herself that she messed up.

[Ant.]

And ffs it’s just a sexuality it shouldn’t have connotations or anyth8ng you don’t see people generalising straight people but you see people generalise gay people all the time at the fault of the community

I’m saying shut up about being gay because we have equal rights here so the next step is to normalise being gay. Making a big deal out of it isn’t normalising it, it’s making it a big deal in both, I guess you could say, positive and negative ways

The key word is "we". We do

LGBT people in a lot of other countries? They don't. Far from it. So what's the issue with Shane J mentioning that places (even his home country) don't have equal rights?

Shane J has what people in countries that oppress LGBT people don't have - a voice. And while his preaching isn't solving those issues, it's certainly raising awareness. Other LGBT 'rolemodels' will be talking about gay rights a lot and advocating for equality in those countries

[ethanjames]

for the gays! shane to end homophobia

[Underscore]

100%

[Marches]

The key word is "we". We do

LGBT people in a lot of other countries? They don't. Far from it. So what's the issue with Shane J mentioning that places (even his home country) don't have equal rights?

Shane J has what people in countries that oppress LGBT people don't have - a voice. And while his preaching isn't solving those issues, it's certainly raising awareness. Other LGBT 'rolemodels' will be talking about gay rights a lot and advocating for equality in those countries

I mean I was talking relative to the uk since he’s tackling a uk politician in a uk show but i get what you mean. I don’t know I just wonder if there’s a different to go about it. Everyone is human we shouldn’t be treated differently for things we can’t control like sexuality, gender yada yada. In high school everyone used to assume gay people were the super flamboyant, in your face people that are annoying to be around, I guess stereotypes like this take years and years to abolish.

[Paula D]

I mean I was talking relative to the uk since he’s tackling a uk politician in a uk show but i get what you mean. I don’t know I just wonder if there’s a different to go about it. Everyone is human we shouldn’t be treated differently for things we can’t control like sexuality, gender yada yada. In high school everyone used to assume gay people were the super flamboyant, in your face people that are annoying to be around, I guess stereotypes like this take years and years to abolish.

And even longer when the stereotype is reinforced on television all the time.

[Paula D]

The key word is "we". We do

LGBT people in a lot of other countries? They don't. Far from it. So what's the issue with Shane J mentioning that places (even his home country) don't have equal rights?

Shane J has what people in countries that oppress LGBT people don't have - a voice. And while his preaching isn't solving those issues, it's certainly raising awareness. Other LGBT 'rolemodels' will be talking about gay rights a lot and advocating for equality in those countries

I haven't heard Shane J mention other countries even once?

[Ant.]

I mean I was talking relative to the uk since he’s tackling a uk politician in a uk show but i get what you mean. I don’t know I just wonder if there’s a different to go about it. Everyone is human we shouldn’t be treated differently for things we can’t control like sexuality, gender yada yada. In high school everyone used to assume gay people were the super flamboyant, in your face people that are annoying to be around, I guess stereotypes like this take years and years to abolish.

I think i may be mistaken but I don't believe Shane J has ever challenged Ann to change her views? He has went behind her back and talked about her and her views and while I can understand why he's annoyed, he's fighting a losing cause by trying to reason with Ann - she's not changing her mind.
As you said, stereotypes like that are gonna take years to overcome. I do believe that seeing gay people on TV in shows (such as 'Bind Date' and whatnot) and adverts are making a step towards 'normalising' gay people into society, but it'll be a while before they're truly seen as 'normal'.
If everyone practised your idea, though, I'm certain that we'd be one step closer to being seen as 'normal'. Great idea :clap1:

[Ant.]

I haven't heard Shane J mention other countries even once?

Have you heard him mention the UK?

[Ant.]

And even longer when the stereotype is reinforced on television all the time.

So flamboyant gay people shouldn't be shown on television?

Some gay people are flamboyant and camp. Some aren't. There's nothing wrong with showing both. In fact, the last few times I've seen gay people on television before Shane J was on First Dates, and I can't remember one of them being camp

Unless you're referring to how fictional LGBT characters are very camp for the butt of a joke, then I'd agree

[Paula D]

Have you heard him mention the UK?

Yep, every time he reams off the list of wrongs Ann has done. :shrug:

[Paula D]

So flamboyant gay people shouldn't be shown on television?

Some gay people are flamboyant and camp. Some aren't. There's nothing wrong with showing both. In fact, the last few times I've seen gay people on television before Shane J was on First Dates, and I can't remember one of them being camp

Unless you're referring to how fictional LGBT characters are very camp for the butt of a joke, then I'd agree

Totally, both fictional and real life. There's a fair mixture of both I'm sure, don't know now, but it's never shown as 50/50 or anywhere near it.

[Ant.]

Yep, every time he reams off the list of wrongs Ann has done. :shrug:

In the same conversations he's acknowledging that LGBT people now have those rights, despite how Ann has voted. Kinda like how he said "if Ann had her way, you wouldn't have a marriage" - he's acknowledging that the law has been passed.

When he talks about gay rights in general, it's clear he's talking about the place where he grew up (Australia), the USA, and plenty of other countries.

[Marches]

I think i may be mistaken but I don't believe Shane J has ever challenged Ann to change her views? He has went behind her back and talked about her and her views and while I can understand why he's annoyed, he's fighting a losing cause by trying to reason with Ann - she's not changing her mind.
As you said, stereotypes like that are gonna take years to overcome. I do believe that seeing gay people on TV in shows (such as 'Bind Date' and whatnot) and adverts are making a step towards 'normalising' gay people into society, but it'll be a while before they're truly seen as 'normal'.
If everyone practised your idea, though, I'm certain that we'd be one step closer to being seen as 'normal'. Great idea :clap1:

He did Like twice I think, on the sofas and in the party room thing when india was in the house. He’s talked about her stance on gay rights a LOT more behind her back at various occasions tho, and has enveloped it into being prude when him and Andrew were provoking her.

I think the thing is, a lot of gay people get enveloped in the lgbt community and surround themselves in it. In college my form tutor or w/e you call them tried to get me to join an lgbt group on the campus. I tried it out and a lot of the people there enforced that stereotype. When you’re young and singled out and you’re given a group of people like that you’re bound to become a part of it, I just don’t think these communities should be so separate because it puts a focus on gay people in both positive and negative ways. Both of which I think are bad like I don’t agree with positive discrimination.

[poppsywoppsy]

In the same conversations he's acknowledging that LGBT people now have those rights, despite how Ann has voted. Kinda like how he said "if Ann had her way, you wouldn't have a marriage" - he's acknowledging that the law has been passed.

When he talks about gay rights in general, it's clear he's talking about the place where he grew up (Australia), the USA, and plenty of other countries.

So Ann's voting past has nothing to do with Australia and the USA, has it.

Let him put his own back yard in order first.

[Ant.]

So Ann's voting past has nothing to do with Australia and the USA, has it.

Let him put his own back yard in order first.

Did I say it did?
Ann is homophobic, and Shane J used her voting past as evidence against her. But for every time Shane J has brought up Ann's voting history, he's mentioned wanting equality and equal rights for LGBT people in general. So I don't see what your point is?

[poppsywoppsy]

Did I say it did?
Ann is homophobic, and Shane J used her voting past as evidence against her. But for every time Shane J has brought up Ann's voting history, he's mentioned wanting equality and equal rights for LGBT people in general. So I don't see what your point is?

You said when he spoke about gay Rights in general, he is talking about Australia, USA etc

Hence my comment

[Ant.]

You said when he spoke about gay Rights in general, he is talking about Australia, USA etc

Hence my comment

... 90% of the time, he is though

[poppsywoppsy]

Equating criminals with gay people, are we?

No, just equal rights, I do not need every topic to be about sexuality, unlike some.

[Crimson Dynamo]

his pathetic behavoir and fawning all over Andrew put anything he stood for back years

He swallowed his bahavoir in the hope of what

a reach-around?

beyond pathetic


Give me a woman like ANn who means what she says and says what she does over a pallid wee boy like Andrews lapbitch any day

[poppsywoppsy]

... 90% of the time, he is though

So what's that got to do with Ann.

[Withano]

Try looking the word heterophobic in the dictionary

Bet you won't copy it word for word and write what it says on here

You have really not helped by showing such a lack of intellect to write such a ridiculous statement. It just shows how little you understand.

You know its not actually in the dictionary, right? I mean I agree it has a meaning and it can exist (under very unusual circumstances, so unusual that i doubt there has ever been a real example of this), but the word isnt actually in the dictionary, so get right off that high horse mate.

[poppsywoppsy]

You know its not actually in the dictionary, right? I mean I agree it has a meaning and it can exist (under very unusual circumstances, so unusual that i doubt there has ever been a real example of this), but the word isnt actually in the dictionary, so get right off that high horse mate.

It is actually, I read it online today

Don't know how old your dictionary is.

I suggest you Google it yourself mate, no high horse needed

[Withano]

It is actually, I read it online today

Don't know how old your dictionary is.

I suggest you Google it yourself mate, no high horse needed

Of course its online :joker: bash the keyboard and google search it, and its probably online :joker: it isnt in any current edition of an actual dictionary

[poppsywoppsy]

Of course its online :joker: bash the keyboard and google search it, and its probably online :joker: it isnt in any current edition of an actual dictionary

I would love to enable your splitting hairs but Eastenders is on.