Shane j dressing as courtney for tasks and other peoples evictions

[Beso]

Why?


Seems fake and attention seeking to me.

[Smithy]

He’s a drag queen he’s going to get dressed up for big events, how is that fake?

[Beso]

He’s a drag queen he’s going to get dressed up for big events, how is that fake?

Hes a man first...the drag act is fake..like him or hate him that cant be denied...seems like a lot of effort just to be told you are a spice girl...but of course he knew all that before hand or he wouldnt have gotten dressed up...he was tipped of by bb.

[ethanjames]

it means that he wants to dress up,,,, because hes a drag queen,,,, why is it that deep

[AnnieK]

Yeah I don't think its a big deal. Its part of his character and he knows its parts that will definitely be shown in the HLs show or is live so he will dress up. Not a big deal imo

[Beso]

Yeah I don't think its a big deal. Its part of his character and he knows its parts that will definitely be shown in the HLs show or is live so he will dress up. Not a big deal imo

But he becomes a different person as courtney which i find really fake to be honest.

[Morgan.]

But he becomes a different person as courtney which i find really fake to be honest.

You need to watch Drag Race then, to learn that when they're in drag their female persona is a sort of alter-ego.

[Ammi]

But he becomes a different person as courtney which i find really fake to be honest.

...I think like with Paul O’Grady when he becomes Lily Savage, it’s not ‘fake’ as such, Lily is just a different aspect to him, which is entertainment also but with drag queens or some drag queens...?...there may be some aspects of confidence attached as well in that Shane J may become Courtney for eviction nights because he’s more aware of being viewed by the public in those live situations...and then also if he is facing eviction himself, like he was last night.../...that extra bit of confidence of walking out into an ‘unknown reception and perception’, which I think they mostly all feel...

[bots]

its the equivalent of wearing a mask. I wouldn't particularly criticise him for that as thats his day job. I have many things i dislike about him before that gets to top of the list. I do find it pretty boring and uninteresting though.

[luvjustin]

I really don’t think his personality changes all that much when he’s in drag. Most of the best drag acts don’t. You spend a long in in drag. It would be hard to keep up a full on character. Which is why I’m not a great fan of people like BenDeLaCreme who change their voice etc.. (although she has full on swung me round this season of All Stars. Killing it so far)

[luvjustin]

Oh and.. calm down. Stop being shocked that a person who’s whole working life is DRAG wants to be in drag when it’s most likely to be on TV.

Girl’s gotta make dem coins!

[Beso]

Oh and.. calm down. Stop being shocked that a person who’s whole working life is DRAG wants to be in drag when it’s most likely to be on TV.

Girl’s gotta make dem coins!

Its a pity jess doesnt think like that.

[bots]

Its a pity jess doesnt think like that.

:joker::nono:

[Ammi]

I really don’t think his personality changes all that much when he’s in drag. Most of the best drag acts don’t. You spend a long in in drag. It would be hard to keep up a full on character. Which is why I’m not a great fan of people like BenDeLaCreme who change their voice etc.. (although she has full on swung me round this season of All Stars. Killing it so far)

...yeah this is why I don’t get the ‘fake’ bit because his personality doesn’t really change very much...maybe a bit more confident as Courtney, I don’t know but he doesn’t adopt any new character traits that Shane J doesn’t have...


...it may be that it could be described as the equivalent of ‘wearing a mask’ in terms of that extra bit of confidence, but I think I think for Shane in terms of being Courtney for eviction nights, it’s probably no different to any of the females doing their full face make up, doing their hair etc and wearing their best outfits which they have brought in for such occasions of wanting to feel all glammed up...

[luvjustin]

Its a pity jess doesnt think like that.

To be fair a glamour model walking round all day in a bikini would make perfect sense. That’s her business. They don’t go on Big Brother for fun. It makes sense that they would use it to their advantage.

Maybe not getting yours baps out in the year of the woman though aye.. :joker:

[Alf]

You need to watch Drag Race then, to learn that when they're in drag their female persona is a sort of alter-ego.A bit like Superman?

It's good to know he doesn't live his life in a fantasy World!:crazy:

[joeysteele]

Why on earth should he not, if he wishes to.
It's a major part of his life.

Sorry I fail to see any logical reason for questioning as to why or when be desires to become Courtney.
It's his decision.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He cant face the public and Emma as who he really is

I think this whole "courtney" thing is to do with a deep self-loathing

[Nicky91]

who cares :sleep: :sleep: and btw the millionth Shane J thread :bored:

[Crimson Dynamo]

And if he wins he should not be allowed to pretend to be someone else for the interview, if I was Emma i would refuse to interview him unless he wipes off the silly make up etc

[GoldHeart]

He's a drag queen so that's what he does, however yes he loves the attention :sleep: .

[Crimson Dynamo]

who cares :sleep: :sleep: and btw the millionth Shane J thread :bored:

why not make one of your great ones about Ashley then?

[Nicky91]

why not make one of your great ones about Ashley then?

i will :amazed:

[joeysteele]

He can be whoever he wants for his final interview and he went into the house as Courtney anyway.
Whether he decides to leave as Shane J or Courtney is entirely his decision,no one elses.

Emma and Rylan have to interview him no matter the identity he chooses.
It's ridiculous to infer one or both should not and only interview him as Shane.

Really odd that there is even an issue as to him becoming Courtney.
Very odd.

[Greg!]

That's his CAREER and what he's known for omfg. And who cares if its attention seeking? NOT ME that's for sure

[Niamh.]

I don't see the issue?

[Ammi]

..if I had some of the stunning frocks that Courtney has and looked how she looks in them, I would be facing eviction nights as Courtney as well..

[Ammi]

...not that Shane J isn’t equally lovely as well and has great clothes also.../..disclaimer...

[Niamh.]

..if I had some of the stunning frocks that Courtney has and looked how she looks in them, I would be facing eviction nights as Courtney as well..

It's actually really odd how Courtney genuinely looks like a different person to Shane J :laugh:

[Cherie]

I don't mind him getting dolled up if that is what he wants to do, but the montage of him doing it was just unnecessary

[Crimson Dynamo]

That's his CAREER and what he's known for omfg. And who cares if its attention seeking? NOT ME that's for sure

John did not wear a football kit and Shane J does not wear a long dark coat and have a wistful look in his eyes as he stares off in the distance


so what is your actual point?

[joeysteele]

It's actually really odd how Courtney genuinely looks like a different person to Shane J :laugh:

Completely different.
It's incredible and really artistically inventive.

[Gusto Brunt]

He's a drag queen so that's what he does, however yes he loves the attention :sleep: .

He's very boring, too.

:sleep::sleep::sleep:

[Cherie]

John did not wear a football kit and Shane L does not wear a long dark coat and have a wistful look in his eyes as he stares off in the distance


so what is your actual point?


:joker:

[Ammi]

It's actually really odd how Courtney genuinely looks like a different person to Shane J :laugh:

...yeah I haven’t really had much observations of drag queens beyond the stage act and as Shane has done in becoming Courtney to just ‘mingle’, type thing...and it has been interesting to see how some of the housemates who have come to know him in the house, as Shane J..have seemed also to see him as two people because he does look so different...

[Vanessa]

Courtney is his alter ego. A lot more outrageous and looking very glamorous. But you still know that's Shane under there.

[poppsywoppsy]

My take on it is he thinks he is more popular as Courtney than when he is Shane.

He has said himself that his personal life has not been as he wanted and has taken many knockbacks. His self esteem, starts and ends with Courtney.

Perhaps he might get to think after CBB ends, it is not only his choosing men who are straight but his obsession about speaking about gay rights constantly which can bore his love interests right out of the door.

[chuff me dizzy]

Yesterdays dressing up was clearly done into trying to fool the public into thinking Shane is the evil one,so I will cover him up ,its so blatant !

[Niamh.]

Yesterdays dressing up was clearly done into trying to fool the public into thinking Shane is the evil one,so I will cover him up ,its so blatant !

I don't think anyone in that house could be viewed as evil ffs :laugh:

[bots]

That's his CAREER and what he's known for omfg. And who cares if its attention seeking? NOT ME that's for sure

I do, because its a very self serving attitude that i despise in people.

[Cherie]

I don't think anyone in that house could be viewed as evil ffs :laugh:

could you put out a service broadcast to the anti Ann brigade :fan:

[Tom4784]

How disgraceful! A drag queen dragging themselves up? WHAT AN EVIL **** THEY MUST BE.

[chuff me dizzy]

Hes a man first...the drag act is fake..like him or hate him that cant be denied...seems like a lot of effort just to be told you are a spice girl...but of course he knew all that before hand or he wouldnt have gotten dressed up...he was tipped of by bb.

:clap1: "Its not me who's been nasty to Ann,its Shane" doesn't fool me

[Greg!]

I do, because its a very self serving attitude that i despise in people.

Oh hon you'll hate me then! I love attention x

[Greg!]

How disgraceful! A drag queen dragging themselves up? WHAT AN EVIL **** THEY MUST BE.

It's disgusting behaviour quite frankly.

[Greg!]

:clap1: "Its not me who's been nasty to Ann,its Shane" doesn't fool me

This opinion is paranoid and delusional and it's a tad embarrassing eek

[Alf]

Oh hon you'll hate me then! I love attention xPuts Greg on Ignore

[bots]

I thought the idea of CBB was to strip the celebs of all that made them tick outside the house and find out what the real person was underneath, From my recollection over all the years, that's the way its been. They may do the odd 5 minute ... this is what 'm famous for segment, but that's about it. To my knowledge, Shane is the first to be allowed to be the performer that he is in the outside world, which is a distinct advantage over everyone else as it was his proficiency in that, that landed him his place in the house. It doesn't seem right to me

[TomToWin]

How many suitcases was this dweeb allowed to bring in? More than everyone else I would imagine!

[Amy Jade]

So drag queen gets in drag and people are disgusted but Ann supports conversion therapy and anyone who thinks that is vile are pc gone mad?

You can't make this **** up!

[Beso]

So drag queen gets in drag and people are disgusted but Ann supports conversion therapy and anyone who thinks that is vile are pc gone mad?

You can't make this **** up!

Who says they are disgusted by it?

[montblanc]

i will :amazed:

drag ha Nicky!

[Marches]

I really don’t think his personality changes all that much when he’s in drag. Most of the best drag acts don’t. You spend a long in in drag. It would be hard to keep up a full on character. Which is why I’m not a great fan of people like BenDeLaCreme who change their voice etc.. (although she has full on swung me round this season of All Stars. Killing it so far)

Tbh nah he’s a lot different as Courtney imo he tries to have two different appeals

[Vanessa]

Personality doesn't change that much when he's Courtney. He's jut more outrageous. He changes mostly in appearance.

[montblanc]

My take on it is he thinks he is more popular as Courtney than when he is Shane.

He has said himself that his personal life has not been as he wanted and has taken many knockbacks. His self esteem, starts and ends with Courtney.

Perhaps he might get to think after CBB ends, it is not only his choosing men who are straight but his obsession about speaking about gay rights constantly which can bore his love interests right out of the door.

oh shush he doesn't have an obsession about speaking gay rights are you joking? :skull:

[Marches]

oh shush he doesn't have an obsession about speaking gay rights are you joking? :skull:

He does because he knows people will lap it up he’s like a show pony saying and doing all the things he knows will gain him popularity

[poppsywoppsy]

oh shush he doesn't have an obsession about speaking gay rights are you joking? :skull:

Not at all, there hasn't been a spare moment when he hasn't been banging on about them.

Even his housemates nominated him for the very same reasons.

Don't shush me either. Free speech and all that!!!!

[y.winter]

Just like housemates have their "eviction outfit" - this is Shane's thing...

[chuff me dizzy]

Not at all, there hasn't been a spare moment when he hasn't been banging on about them.

Even his housemates nominated him for the very same reasons.

Don't shush me either. Free speech and all that!!!!

Its his only topic of conversation ,and he threw black people and women into the lecture last night for a few extra votes ,and Ann gets accused to having strong feelings Jesus !! not ONCE has she lectured them

[Marsh.]

Its his only topic of conversation ,and he threw black people and women into the lecture last night for a few extra votes ,and Ann gets accused to having strong feelings Jesus !! not ONCE has she lectured them

She doesn't get accused of having strong feelings, strong feelings are great.

Her views are, rightly, labelled bigoted. Because they are.

[poppsywoppsy]

She doesn't get accused of having strong feelings, strong feelings are great.

Her views are, rightly, labelled bigoted. Because they are.

I haven't heard any views unless she is asked for them by Shane

Then even he concedes she is entitled to them.

[Marsh.]

I haven't heard any views unless she is asked for them by Shane

Then even he concedes she is entitled to them.
Nobody's said she isn't entitled to them.

Calling her bigoted isn't requesting she stop thinking the way she does. It's stating a fact.

[Marches]

Well it’s not a fact

[Beso]

She doesn't get accused of having strong feelings, strong feelings are great.

Her views are, rightly, labelled bigoted. Because they are.

But her reasons for those views aint.:nono:

[Donovan.]

Okay so I've had this theory from like day 2 or 3 but I don't think I've posted it here yet. I have a feeling that because she's really only famous as a drag queen, her contract might have a higher fee for days that Courtney actually makes it onto the show. Would explain why she's very strict on dressing up for evictions, and why she dressed for that Spice Girls task. Production probably negotiated with her to make sure she's dressed for certain tasks, and they give her a slight heads up the morning of.

That's why at the beginning you saw Shane really trying to plan out his Courtney days, but then seem to slightly forget about it in the middle, and now he's back to making sure Courtney makes it on the show since there are only a few days left.

Over in the states, her friend Alaska was on this 'Scared Famous' show not too long ago, and I know she had to be in drag just about everyday that they filmed. She even had to show up late, halfway through the first episode, because Alaska came as Justin and they made her get ready first

I posted this in Chuff's thread, but I really wouldn't be surprised if channel five give her a lower fee for days that Shane makes it on the show and Courtney doesn't. Why pay a star, when they aren't being their 'starself.' They probably had things like launch part2, evictions, and the finale predetermined as events that Courtney had to show up for. Seeing as Courtney's the 'real celebrity' and Shane is relatively unknown

[Marsh.]

But her reasons for those views aint.:nono:
Ain't what? Bigoted?

But it gives the same result.

Whether her views are shaped by her childhood, her religion or a bad experience with gay people in her life, it results in her believing gay people are not entitled to equality alongside straight people. That's discrimination no matter where it stems from. :shrug:

Disclaimer: I'm not holding Ann at gunpoint to change her views. She's entitled to them. Just as everyone else is entitled to comment on and question them.

[Withano]

Ann dresses like a miserable tory twat on evictions and in tasks and nobody bats an eyelid though :shrug:

[Marches]

I think her dress sense is simple yet elegant

[chuff me dizzy]

I posted this in Chuff's thread, but I really wouldn't be surprised if channel five give her a lower fee for days that Shane makes it on the show and Courtney doesn't. Why pay a star, when they aren't being their 'starself.' They probably had things like launch part2, evictions, and the finale predetermined as events that Courtney had to show up for. Seeing as Courtney's the 'real celebrity' and Shane is relatively unknown

I really don't agree with this at all ,and Shane is hardly a star, Ive never heard of him before and neither have lots of others in here and Facebook,he's a z lister

[Marches]

I was talking abt Ann,,

[chuff me dizzy]

I was talking abt Ann,,

I realised that and removed my comment, i thought you had lost your mind for a minute :joker:

[Donovan.]

I really don't agree with this at all ,and Shane is hardly a star, Ive never heard of him before and neither have lots of others in here and Facebook,he's a z lister

That's exactly what I said. I know C5 have had a lax definition of the word celebrity since they took over CBB. The celebs they get, usually aren't that well known. That's why I wouldn't be surprised if C5 and their contract negotiators worked out a deal with Shane to make sure that Courtney made it on the show as much as possible. Ultimately, that's what he's known for, Courtney is basically the only reason he's a celeb. I doubt he could've just gone in there as Shane and been Shane in boy clothes the whole way through the series without putting Courtney on once. The producers wouldn't allow it as Shane isn't a star and there really wouldn't be a point in it.

[Marsh.]

So Shane is a Z lister because YOU haven't heard of him?

That's like saying Ann is a nobody because a 12 year old wouldn't have the foggiest who she is.

Ru Paul's Drag Race is internationally popular. The world extends beyond individual views of it.

[Donovan.]

Yeah and I wouldn't really say he's a z lister. He's international honestly, a lot of the RUgirls are.

[chuff me dizzy]

That's exactly what I said. I know C5 have had a lax definition of the word celebrity since they took over CBB. The celebs they get, usually aren't that well known. That's why I wouldn't be surprised if C5 and their contract negotiators worked out a deal with Shane to make sure that Courtney made it on the show as much as possible. Ultimately, that's what he's known for, Courtney is basically the only reason he's a celeb. I doubt he could've just gone in there as Shane and been Shane in boy clothes the whole way through the series without putting Courtney on once. The producers wouldn't allow it as Shane isn't a star and there really wouldn't be a point in it.

Ive never heard of Courtney either, and they are ONE PERSON and that person is a man

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah and I wouldn't really say he's a z lister. He's international honestly, a lot of the RUgirls are.

Im not into that type of thing

[Donovan.]

I could imagine chuff. But for a lot of young people that grow up in countries which are a lot less accepting than the countries that you or I grew up in, Drag Race badly dubbed over into their native language is often times the only way for them to see a representation of themselves being celebrated. That's why a lot of his fans get pretty passionate about Rugirls, and definitely why I wouldn't call him a z lister. A lot of people from different walks of life really care about him. Not gonna lie though, his mention of 'research' at the beginning did kinda turn me off though

[Marsh.]

Im not into that type of thing

You not being into that type of thing doesn't suddenly mean his fame and popularity doesn't exist. You do understand that?

[chuff me dizzy]

I could imagine chuff. But for a lot of young people that grow up in countries which are a lot less accepting than the countries that you or I grew up in, Drag Race badly dubbed over into their native language is often times the only way for them to see a representation of themselves being celebrated. That's why a lot of his fans get pretty passionate about Rugirls, and definitely why I wouldn't call him a z lister. A lot of people from different walks of life really care about him. Not gonna lie though, his mention of 'research' at the beginning did kinda turn me off though

Hes a z lister to me and no one i know has heard of him either,... But it will soon be Friday and he can go back into oblivion :bored: This time next week people will have totally forgot his name