Life after death dilemma

[Niamh.]

So inspired by the other thread and also the Film Chappie :laugh:

If scientists discovered how to download and extract peoples consciousness and upload it too a mechanical body before you died, would you do it? So basically you would be able to live forever (be it as a robot until they discover how to make biological host bodies) :think:

[waterhog]

deff no - only so much crap poetry this world can take

[Marches]

Maybe but what bothers me is if a computer was able to replicate your brain and consciousness, would it be you living that consciousness?
It may replicate how you think and feel and stuff but would it be you(if that makes sense)?

[Jordan.]

Absolutely not I want to rest in peace

[joeysteele]

Only if the main figures in my life had this done too I'd guess.
However I've come to the view that energy in some form probably does continue after death.

So this scientific move would be less of an attraction for myself anyway.

[Livia]

I'll speak to my Rabbi and get back to you...

[Niamh.]

Maybe but what bothers me is if a computer was able to replicate your brain and consciousness, would it be you living that consciousness?
It may replicate how you think and feel and stuff but would it be you(if that makes sense)?

yeah like there could be multiple copies made of you as well

[Livia]

yeah like there could be multiple copies made of you as well

100s of Leather Trumpets! NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo

[Niamh.]

100s of Leather Trumpets! NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo

:laugh2:

[Marches]

I’d imagine living forever would get boring too and probably lonely but I’m all for having more than 80 on average years

[jaxie]

I don't know, maybe if loved ones could do it too. I do sometimes feel our life spans are very short.

[MTVN]

Yeah I'd love to live forever, think of all the cool things you'd get to witness

[user104658]

yeah like there could be multiple copies made of you as well

Isn't this sort of the premise of the new Netflix thing "Altered Carbon"? I've not watched it yet but reading about it, it's basically about this thread concept, and what you've just mentioned here (multiple copies of your own consciousness in different bodies) is described as being "possible but highly illegal" .. but it's sort of known that some powerful people are doing it, but it's impossible to know who (the bodies themselves that the consciousness is put in are all different) :worry:.

I've been meaning to watch it and now I really want to. :joker:.

[Jamie89]

I think I would. I'd actually really like to be cryogenically frozen :laugh: basically I just want to see what the future is like rather than wanting to live forever. Experience space travel, more advanced technologies, stuff like that.

[user104658]

From wikipedia about the novel;

In the novel's dystopian world, human personalities can be stored digitally and downloaded into new bodies, called "sleeves". Most people have cortical stacks in their spinal columns that store their memories. If their body dies, their stack can be stored indefinitely. Catholics have arranged that they will not be resleeved as they believe that the soul goes to Heaven when they die, and so would not pass on to the new sleeve. This makes Catholics targets for murder, since killers know their victim will not be resleeved to testify. A UN resolution to alter this legal position forms one strand of the novel's plot, to allow the authorities to sleeve a deceased Catholic woman temporarily to testify in a murder trial.

While most people can afford to get resleeved at the end of their lives, they are unable to update their bodies and most go through the full aging process each time, which discourages most from resleeving more than once or twice. So while normal people can live indefinitely in theory, most choose not to. Only the wealthy are able to acquire replacement bodies on a continual basis. The long-lived are called Meths, a reference to the Biblical figure Methuselah. The very rich are also able to keep copies of their minds in remote storage, which they update regularly. This ensures that even if their stack is destroyed, they can be "resleeved".

[Niamh.]

Isn't this sort of the premise of the new Netflix thing "Altered Carbon"? I've not watched it yet but reading about it, it's basically about this thread concept, and what you've just mentioned here (multiple copies of your own consciousness in different bodies) is described as being "possible but highly illegal" .. but it's sort of known that some powerful people are doing it, but it's impossible to know who (the bodies themselves that the consciousness is put in are all different) :worry:.

I've been meaning to watch it and now I really want to. :joker:.

Oh yeah that's on my to watch list aswell. So all the "you's" would start out as you but change into different people according to the memories they make etc :think:

[Niamh.]

I think I would. I'd actually really like to be cryogenically frozen :laugh: basically I just want to see what the future is like rather than wanting to live forever. Experience space travel, more advanced technologies, stuff like that.

also if you were into a body that didn't need to breathe you could travel into space and under water with no restrictions :amazed:

[Niamh.]

From wikipedia about the novel;

Is this Altered carbon? Sounds brilliant actually

[Jamie89]

also if you were into a body that didn't need to breathe you could travel into space and under water with no restrictions :amazed:

I never even thought about that :amazed: I was thinking there could be an overpopulation crisis but since we could live underwater and easily go to other planets, problem solved! (Unless we eventually started to overpopulate the universe :think: )

[jaxie]

Yeah I'd love to live forever, think of all the cool things you'd get to witness

Yeah that would be a big factor for me. I want to know about the future and all the things that I'll miss when I'm dead. Like will we ever find intelligent life in space and what we will be able to do in 100 years. If the last 100 years is anything to go by, in another 100 it's going to be incredible!

also if you were into a body that didn't need to breathe you could travel into space and under water with no restrictions :amazed:

Maybe it would be my robot who found the intelligent life in space after Elon Musk's robot sent me into space playing a loop of U2 I still haven't found what I'm looking for!

[Vicky.]

I cannot think of anything worse than living forever

She says while fantasizing about begin a vampire since being like 11

[jaxie]

I cannot think of anything worse than living forever

She says while fantasizing about begin a vampire since being like 11

I never really got the whole romance thing about vampires. I mean its a corpse and it wants to drink your blood until you are dead too. What's to like?

[Jamie89]

I wonder if we'd even be able to understand the distant future, like would prehistoric man be able to understand current human life :think: If the brain keeps evolving but our robot selves don't, we'd eventually see changes that we can't actually comprehend... I think that's the point at which I'd switch off :laugh:

[Vicky.]

I never really got the whole romance thing about vampires. I mean its a corpse and it wants to drink your blood until you are dead too. What's to like?

I am not exactly sure, to be quite honest. I always found the idea of someone who stayed 'alive' by drinking other peoples...life...fascinating. And the extra strength and such too. And I have always been nocturnal so that appealed also. And finally, I really do love the taste of blood :umm2: I have only ever tasted my own though, no need to worry :laugh:

[jaxie]

I am not exactly sure, to be quite honest. I always found the idea of someone who stayed 'alive' by drinking other peoples...life...fascinating. And the extra strength and such too. And I have always been nocturnal so that appealed also. And finally, I really do love the taste of blood :umm2: I have only ever tasted my own though, no need to worry :laugh:

:umm2:

But you are definitely not in a minority for liking vampires, shows and movies about them are hugely successful. I think I'm more in the minority for not finding them appealing!

[bots]

i'm all for it .... look at the animals and trees that live for a very long time now ... do you see them moaning?

[MTVN]

i'm all for it .... look at the animals and trees that live for a very long time now ... do you see them moaning?

Don't see butterflies moaning about their one week life span either mind you :think:

[bots]

Don't see butterflies moaning about their one week life span either mind you :think:

i've never asked one :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

No I'm not sure I'd like it, ethically seems wrong.
I wouldn't want to live forever as a robot . I'd want to still be in my own body . Even if a biological body host becomes available afterwards it's still not your body and would be too bizarre , plus living forever doesn't sound fun either.

[jaxie]

Don't see butterflies moaning about their one week life span either mind you :think:

Maybe they don't have the time?

I'm hurtling through space in my head humming along to U2 now.

[user104658]

Oh yeah that's on my to watch list aswell. So all the "you's" would start out as you but change into different people according to the memories they make etc :think:

Yeah, I didn't actually know it was originally a novel. Sounds like the series follows the novel pretty closely though.

[smudgie]

No. I need a rest thanks.
If I had to come back then I would like to be a great oak tree, planted in a spot with a great view.

[Ramsay]

I would do it until i get sick of it. Can my friends and family do it too? because i always figured at first being immortal would be great but after so many friends dying over and over and over again i'd get sick of it and just hide on some island somewhere and be lonely forever

[Niamh.]

I would do it until i get sick of it. Can my friends and family do it too? because i always figured at first being immortal would be great but after so many friends dying over and over and over again i'd get sick of it and just hide on some island somewhere and be lonely forever

RamsayBot alone in the wilderness

https://i.imgur.com/Goga9jv.jpg?1

[Ramsay]

It's like looking in a mirror :(

[Tom4784]

When it comes to questions of immortality, I've always said the same thing, I'd want it with the caveat that I could end it whenever I pleased.

I'd definitely give the Altered Carbon business a whirl if it was real.

[Beso]

No, but i would like the robot..

You could maybe buy upgrades..like upgrade to elvis or bowie...or some sexy sort where you could buy wigs and stuff..
Hell, yeah..this idea is working

[Beso]

Don't see butterflies moaning about their one week life span either mind you :think:

It takes thier kids that long to get thier shoes on.

[Ashley.]

I am not exactly sure, to be quite honest. I always found the idea of someone who stayed 'alive' by drinking other peoples...life...fascinating. And the extra strength and such too. And I have always been nocturnal so that appealed also. And finally, I really do love the taste of blood :umm2: I have only ever tasted my own though, no need to worry :laugh:

I'm staying away from you if there's ever a famine...

[Ashley.]

On the subject of the thread, I guess, no. "Living forever" just takes away from what life is all about, and what makes it so brilliant. I'd like to think that when it's time for me to drop off, I'll be content with what I have achieved and grateful for what I have been given... or something to that effect. x

[Northern Monkey]

I love sci-fi type stuff and space and time travel so i would love this.I just wanna see the future for the next thousand years.

Kind of on/off topic.Anyone watching Altered Carbon on Netflix?
Very similar idea to this.

[Withano]

Definitely. I'll help the revolution to take over from those pesky humans who ruin the planet by needing stuff like food and central heating to survive

[Withano]

Definitely. I'll help the revolution to take over from those pesky humans who ruin the planet by needing stuff like food and central heating to survive

Ok nobody steal this, I'm making this a movie

[Maru]

I'm quite happy to be mortal and I would not want to be resurrected into someone's potential robot slave. With our luck, some greedy corporatist will get access to our personalities and shove them into a database at a sex doll factory and then we'll all be fooked.

BTW if they can pull that data like a file, they can copy it. It's not like human brains have built-in firmware-level copy protection.

[Maru]

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[Niamh.]

I love sci-fi type stuff and space and time travel so i would love this.I just wanna see the future for the next thousand years.

Kind of on/off topic.Anyone watching Altered Carbon on Netflix?
Very similar idea to this.TS was talking about earlier, definitely going to give it a watch

[Northern Monkey]

TS was talking about earlier, definitely going to give it a watch

You won’t regret it.

It’s really good :thumbs:

[jaxie]

You won’t regret it.

It’s really good :thumbs:

Good tip I need a new series.