Oxfam staff hired prostitutes during Haiti's 2011 earthquake relief effort.

[arista]

[Government to review work with Oxfam
over allegations of Haiti prostitutes cover-up
The move comes after the
charity denied claims it had covered
up the use of prostitutes by senior
aid workers in Haiti in 2011.


[Former minister for international
development Andrew Mitchell said
the report was one of "utter horror".]


Every Charity needs to be transparent.
This news is terrible.

https://news.sky.com/story/oxfam-denies-haiti-prostitutes-cover-up-after-earthquake-disaster-11243106

[bots]

This comes as no surprise to me, the scale of it was worse than I thought though.

Just like schools and youth organisations here are targets for would be predators, those needing aid are equally vulnerable, and these are the things that happen without strict checks

[jaxie]

This sits very uncomfortably and isn't something I'd thought of before though as Bits says it probably shouldn't be a surprise.

There is something very wrong with us as humans when those who go to help are exploiting the vulnerable while there. No one will ever convince me that prostitution is ever a real choice unless there are no other choices.

What is it with people and sex? I like sex but I can go without if the circumstances don't put Mr Jaxie and I in a place where we can indulge. And what's wrong with masturbating?

[arista]

It gets worse
From Marr BBC1HD
Those Sacked
then walked into other Charity Groups.

The Minister is very concerned
about the Tax Payers money
going onto Oxfam and others.

[Kizzy]

And the knee jerk reaction is to cut funding.... not just to this charity but all

Played right into their hands, of course that should never have happened and ther needs to be more transparency granted but I can't help but feel this is being blown up as a way to further damage public confidence in the important work of charities.

We didn't get any of this threatened when there was the 'kids company' expose did we? Too close to home that one.
Personally I think this was only brought to the fore to take the heat from the 'presidents club' and the seedy shenanigans involved there.

[arista]

And the knee jerk reaction is to cut funding.... not just to this charity but all

Played right into their hands, of course that should never have happened and ther needs to be more transparency granted but I can't help but feel this is being blown up as a way to further damage public confidence in the important work of charities.

We didn't get any of this threatened when there was the 'kids company' expose did we? Too close to home that one.
Personally I think this was only brought to the fore to take the heat from the 'presidents club' and the seedy shenanigans involved there.


Yes maybe

[Vicky.]

****ing disgusting.

[arista]

Ch4HD news
spoke to the Deputy Leader of Oxfam
who stepped down
And the youngsters working in UK Oxfam Shops
were also sexually abused

https://news.sky.com/story/former-oxfam-boss-says-three-sex-misconduct-cases-were-reported-in-24-hours-11248445

[arista]

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[Ammi]

..this ‘story’ is really rolling and gathering ...I have to say, I was quite confused when it was first revealed...anyways, this is all horrific in its unfolding...that even the most basics of safeguarding against vulnerability have not been enforced or demanded...a huge ‘loophole’, which some have used to abuse and as well as the individual damage, the damage to charities and the work they do also, going into the future...and in a world that is so very focused on and geared up to ‘prevent’ of those very vulnerable in society...it’s just incredible that this has happened in recent times and over time...awful...

[Beso]

Its disgusting that this was covered up..not very charitable at all.

[Kizzy]

It wasn't covered up the relevant authorities knew it just wasn't escalated to ministers... So now that means that charities get their funding slashed.

What?... Nobody is now questioning the 'presidents club' ... Wonder why, this smokescreen perhaps?

[Cherie]

It wasn't covered up the relevant authorities knew it just wasn't escalated to ministers... So now that means that charities get their funding slashed.

What?... Nobody is now questioning the 'presidents club' ... Wonder why, this smokescreen perhaps?

the President's club has been the catalyst for this, I think its slightly different anyway the girls the at the PC had freedom to leave, they were not vulnerable and nobody was trading sex for aid, the PC isn't funded by the taxpayer or Doris donating her clothes or Fred donating 5.00 every month.

[Beso]

It wasn't covered up the relevant authorities knew it just wasn't escalated to ministers... So now that means that charities get their funding slashed.

What?... Nobody is now questioning the 'presidents club' ... Wonder why, this smokescreen perhaps?




What are you on..blooby hell.:joker:


Oxfam covered it up fgs..

[arista]

[National Crime Agency contacted over Oxfam scandal

Charities receiving UK aid have been told to show "full transparency" and outline assurances about their safeguarding process.]


About time.

https://news.sky.com/story/oxfam-aid-minister-penny-mordaunt-to-meet-with-national-crime-agency-over-scandal-11249960

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https://d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/mERC657cQ9yd6IUmCVpd_1402%20Times.JPG

[Crimson Dynamo]

time to look at all foreign aid tbh

[GoldHeart]

Its disgusting that this was covered up..not very charitable at all.

Unbelievable , I don't think people will look at charities the same way again :shocked:.
Why does something that's meant to be honest & generous have to have dark secrets . Totally the opposite of "charitable" :bored: .

[Northern Monkey]

Forgive me for being dumb I haven’t looked into this much but what exactly is the main issue with this?I watched Question Time but i’m still non the wiser really.
Was it that they were using charity money that the public had donated or were the hookers underage or something?

[Rob!]

Forgive me for being dumb I haven’t looked into this much but what exactly is the main issue with this?I watched Question Time but i’m still non the wiser really.
Was it that they were using charity money that the public had donated or were the hookers underage or something?

I feel like I've come in halfway through this story, having seen it on the news for the past couple of nights. From what I can gather, the company is accused of covering up allegations that were made in 2011 that some of their workers, and senior ones at that, used underage prostitutes while in Haiti after the earthquake. It sound like one of those snowballing things that's getting worse as the days go on, to the point where I'm wondering if Oxfam can actually come back from this at all.

[Beso]

This is why women should run all charities.

[Kizzy]

the President's club has been the catalyst for this, I think its slightly different anyway the girls the at the PC had freedom to leave, they were not vulnerable and nobody was trading sex for aid, the PC isn't funded by the taxpayer or Doris donating her clothes or Fred donating 5.00 every month.

Who said it was exactly the same?... I simply suggested that this 'expose' conveniently eclipsed other stories circulating at the time.

Andrew Mitchell distanced himself immediately, suggesting that it was known but had not been 'escalated' to govt ministers... how far up the chain of command is that? pretty far to be fair so the suggestion this was previously unheard of on any level I am loathe to believe.

[bots]

Forgive me for being dumb I haven’t looked into this much but what exactly is the main issue with this?I watched Question Time but i’m still non the wiser really.
Was it that they were using charity money that the public had donated or were the hookers underage or something?

in addition to what Rob said, there is also evidence that abuse went on in local oxfam shops in the UK too, so its turned in to a very large issue

[Cherie]

in addition to what Rob said, there is also evidence that abuse went on in local oxfam shops in the UK too, so its turned in to a very large issue

and allegations of sex for aid in Chad

[Cherie]

Who said it was exactly the same?... I simply suggested that this 'expose' conveniently eclipsed other stories circulating at the time.

Andrew Mitchell distanced himself immediately, suggesting that it was known but had not been 'escalated' to govt ministers... how far up the chain of command is that? pretty far to be fair so the suggestion this was previously unheard of on any level I am loathe to believe.

This is a much bigger deal that the Presidents Club, if it has been previously ignored then shame on them, but at least it is out in the open now and rightly so unless you think it is okay for vulnerable people to be manipulated and funding continued on that basis

[arista]

Forgive me for being dumb I haven’t looked into this much but what exactly is the main issue with this?I watched Question Time but i’m still non the wiser really.
Was it that they were using charity money that the public had donated or were the hookers underage or something?


Yes it was under age poverty children
and even youngsters working in UK shops
Raped by some men in that Massive Oxfam team.
The Gov., gives big Cash to Oxfam
Tax payers money - thats what matters more.


Many that Donated to Oxfam have now stopped
and giving to another Charity


And from Todays news
Even more Rape charges
are on the way.


Oxfam let "THEIR" Pedophiles go to other charities
not even giving them Public Sackings
Saving the Oxfam brand was number one
thats THE BIG SCANDAL .

[Kizzy]

This is a much bigger deal that the Presidents Club, if it has been previously ignored then shame on them, but at least it is out in the open now and rightly so unless you think it is okay for vulnerable people to be manipulated and funding continued on that basis

What a ridiculous baity comment! There is evidence of corruption in many charities, aid organisations and even the UN.
How is cutting funding to the needy a solution? :/

[Ammi]

..I have to say, although maybe something that would be ‘frowned on’...I don’t tend to donate cash and especially to larger charities...I have done, but more with smaller charities/volunteer projects etc, which I’ve had a personal connection with through someone, so I’ve been confident most is going directly to and used where needed...I guess I have the priveledge through my working life, of being aware of many individual projects and personally knowing those involved...but I prefer donating specific needed things or just even luxury things, some have never experienced before...I have always felt the larger charities were very much needed as well though...and this is all awful to have happened to potentially damage them...

[Cherie]

What a ridiculous baity comment! There is evidence of corruption in many charities, aid organisations and even the UN.
How is cutting funding to the needy a solution? :/

yes there is and it is time to start somewhere, they need to prove that they are squeaky clean and that money isn't be wasted and that it is actually being routed to where it is most needed, not into huge salaries and expenses, there are a lot of good people in Oxfam being undone by a small percentage of bad apples time to root them out.

[bots]

The boss lady of Oxfam didn't come across at all well when she was interviewed, and the CEO has publicly stated that he thinks Oxfam is being treated to harshly. I would be surprised if Oxfam is still going this time next year.

[Cherie]

The boss lady of Oxfam didn't come across at all well when she was interviewed, and the CEO has publicly stated that he thinks Oxfam is being treated to harshly. I would be surprised if Oxfam is still going this time next year.

I only caught the end of Winnie's interview but what I saw was a mess

[Kizzy]

yes there is and it is time to start somewhere, they need to prove that they are squeaky clean and that money isn't be wasted and that it is actually being routed to where it is most needed, not into huge salaries and expenses, there are a lot of good people in Oxfam being undone by a small percentage of bad apples time to root them out.

Oxfam have been used as a scapegoat here they are as you say the catalyst for corroding public confidence further in charities particularly foreign aid charities.

Of course there needs to be extensive reform no doubt, it's also damning that these stories are not isolated to one organisation, any measures implemented need to be sector wide.

[arista]

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Oxfam again.

[Ammi]

The Charity Commission's report found it "had a culture of tolerating poor behaviour and... failed to meet promises made on safeguarding, ultimately letting everyone down".


....it’s so very sad because these terrible incidents that shouldn’t ever happen with correct safeguarding measures in place have and will inevitably deter people from donating and supporting ...not just this charity but charities in general, people will become sceptic and wary etc...and that’s understandable also...ultimately, the people it damages and harms are the people who so desperately need these charities to be supported, their help is vital to so many...

[bots]

The Charity Commission's report found it "had a culture of tolerating poor behaviour and... failed to meet promises made on safeguarding, ultimately letting everyone down".


....it’s so very sad because these terrible incidents that shouldn’t ever happen with correct safeguarding measures in place have and will inevitably deter people from donating and supporting ...not just this charity but charities in general, people will become sceptic and wary etc...and that’s understandable also...ultimately, the people it damages and harms are the people who so desperately need these charities to be supported, their help is vital to so many...

i have been wary of charities for years. There are just too many scams going on. It requires very careful research to see how hard earned money is actually used

[Ammi]

i have been wary of charities for years. There are just too many scams going on. It requires very careful research to see how hard earned money is actually used

...yeah, I do understand, bots...I think so many people are sceptical, sadly...I’ve always been in a privileged position of knowing of specific projects through involvement of people I know or have spoken to and looking into how those projects can be supported directly...in general, that’s the better way for help to go directly, rather than cash donations...

[arista]

Raab has Now halted the Oxford Charity from bidding
for Government Funds.

Due to the New 2 Evil Oxfam British Workers rapping kids

Ref: Times Radio DAB Live

[UserSince2005]

This is why I never donate to any charity. Corrupt businesses in disguise

[arista]

This is why I never donate to any charity. Corrupt businesses in disguise


Yes I agree

[Amy Jade]

This is not a shock to me, think I have posted this before but when my grandad passed away my Nana was bored so started to vaulenteer at the local Oxfam to her and the woman who ran the small shop was a bitch, she treated people working for free like crap, she literally said to my Nana that most working their were pathetic 'dolies' who only do the work to keep their benefits and my Nana and another lady saw her marking items down in price for herself, a designer YSL scarf that they could have sold for a lot more.

The other lady reported her and those above didn't care, nothing was done and my Nana and the lady who reported her quit and the other working did a collection to buy them a card and some flowers and the bitch refused to even sign either card.

[The Slim Reaper]

Handing out dodgy, unearned contracts is fine for this government, but anyone else doing dodgy stuff will not be tolerated.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is why I never donate to any charity. Corrupt businesses in disguise

The big ones seem to be. This Oxfam thing is a disgrace

[bots]

this has happened so many times now, it's a wonder charities get any money at all