should indebted students get refund ?

[waterhog]

should indebted students get refund ? ( fantastic news from metro ) 22.02.18


looking forward to the lump

its all about the take

over 25 years highgate i did rump

shame and dignity the stake.

i new i would succeed

seeing the light at the end of tunnel

the poetry track was a perfuse bleed

but now will be up and running better then sally gunnel.

not sure where to collect

to be honest still shocked and stunned

5 more years to study with no detect

and then a huge 30 year refund.

money can now unfreeze

got a big wad and plenty of loose

to some jealousy will un ease

not bothered as laying is my golden goose.

one question is hanging

damages are undeniable

the solicitor has advised no more head banging

a life in poetry will work out reliable.


https://ibb.co/jVCVdH

[user104658]

Higher Education should be free or HEAVILY means-tested in the first place :idc:.

(Thankfully, it already is in Scotland)

[Livia]

Higher Education should be free or HEAVILY means-tested in the first place :idc:.

(Thankfully, it already is in Scotland)

If it wasn't free in Scotland, TS, I think you could be entitled to a refund.

[RichardG]

i bloody well hope so! all my professors and tutors are going on strike for the next four weeks then it's the easter break right after, so i have no lectures, tutorial, or access to office hours for eight weeks straight! what on earth am i paying £9,000 for :x

[Crimson Dynamo]

If it wasn't free in Scotland, TS, I think you could be entitled to a refund.

Or at least an investigation on what on earth went wrong

:think:

[user104658]

Or at least an investigation on what on earth went wrong

:think:

I don't think it would be a very long investigation LT; I spent three years drinking Jack Daniels, playing pool and Guitar Hero, and going to bed at 5am :joker:.

[smudgie]

They certainly shouldn't be paying the horrendously high interest on them.

[Jack_]

Yes, lecturers are allies in this whole debacle but many have stressed that they're not being paid whilst striking so the universities are actually profiting from their absence, and in the market that higher education now is, students consumers are absolutely entitled to ask for a rebate.

[reece(:]

I want my money back considering the **** show of some of the lectures that I've had in my time

[arista]

yes Students must get their money back , HOG

[Maru]

How would they get a refund on their tuition though? The services were provided... students had a choice to drop out at any point if they didn't think they were getting their monies worth. Do schools even make specific promises?... I don't think they guarantee employment just vague stuff like "intellectual enrichment" and a "positive learning environment".

Probably could only sue if you took a course that didn't accomplish it's stated goals... kinda like how I signed up for a history course and it ended up being about saving the environment? Was required so I couldn't drop.

[joeysteele]

Yes absolutely.

[Kizzy]

How would they get a refund on their tuition though? The services were provided... students had a choice to drop out at any point if they didn't think they were getting their monies worth. Do schools even make specific promises?... I don't think they guarantee employment just vague stuff like "intellectual enrichment" and a "positive learning environment".

Probably could only sue if you took a course that didn't accomplish it's stated goals... kinda like how I signed up for a history course and it ended up being about saving the environment? Was required so I couldn't drop.

So you didn't want to learn about historical environmental impact?

Anyhoo, yes you can complain as you say you are paying for a service to attain a certain level of competency in a given subject via a variety of mediums... if that falls short you have a right to recourse clearly.

[Denver]

Higher education is not a right

[Kizzy]

Higher education is not a right

Only for the generation that suggested that then?... Way to limit yourselves millennials give yourselves a big prize of a mountain of debt you are officially the most gullible generation EVER!

[Denver]

Only for the generation that suggested that then?... Way to limit yourselves millennials give yourselves a big prize of a mountain of debt you are officially the most gullible generation EVER!

Maybe we should just make everything free?

[RichardG]

Maybe we should just make everything free?

maybe i should get the lectures and tutorials that i am paying £9,000 for. that would be a good idea! but i am not receiving any tuition at all for the forseeable future because all my teachers have gone on strike!

[Maru]

Higher education is not a right

I agree with that to a degree (pun unintended). But judging by most dumpster level rants on the web these days, it doesn't seem college is doing whole lot for people's sense of self-worth or self-confidence, or even their intellect, if they're feeling they have to reduce their arguments down to the level of a 5 year old emotional logic to get their points across. So I think there is an argument to be made our education system is almost certainly broken...

I just don't think that getting refunds for all does anything to resolve the quality issues. I made sure I was educated about my education (ironic statement, I know) before getting too deep in and I had a 5-10 year plan and had very specific goals (including not having massive debt)... and if we find we aren't getting a great education, then maybe adjust the plan? I could transfer to a better school, but of course using that same logic, a lot of artisans sign up for very expensive programs... like design school, it's in the 6 digits here not including interest...

Actually part of the argument against school grants/federally backed loans is that it's drastically lowered the quality of education in public schools (edit) and helped to raise the costs of and lower the standards of private as well... because if you can accept more students with financial aid, that's easy money... more likely to get them to agree to a higher tuition bill overall.

If it were a conventional loan, the bank would be interested in their ability to afford pver the long-term... i.e. will a degree in Ancient Texts help you with your ability to repay or will it maybe be better to go with a second choice, like medical, etc? That would've been a bubble burst for some, but more informative for the student overall on their ability to handle repaying over the long-term...

[Marsh.]

I thought this said "inbred students". :joker:

[Maru]

I thought this said "inbred students". :joker:

I actually saw the same thing at first look. The brain is a weird trickster isn't it? :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Maybe we should just make everything free?

Yes, expecting the right to an education to be made universal and not just reserved for those born into rich families who can afford it is asking for EVERYTHING to be free. :thumbs: Good argument.