Tarantino's "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" (July 2019)

[LaLaLand]

It received a 7 minute standing ovation after it premiered at Cannes. :clap1:

https://deadline.com/2019/05/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-cannes-standing-ovation-quentin-tarantino-premiere-1202620039/

Amazing. I feel like QT is back to his best, at long last. This sounds like it's gonna be glorious!

Weirdly, it seems Margot apparently doesn't have a very meaty role. She has very minimal dialogue and basically just shown "living the dream" around Los Angeles, attending parties etc and going to the cinema to watch herself in "The Wrecking Crew" (as seen in the trailer). Someone said they'd estimate she has about 30 minutes of screen time, which I did not expect. I think QT basically wanted to show her enjoying life, enjoying being this rising star on the cusp of something big, oblivious to what was going to happen to her. Almost as if he's humanising Sharon Tate, because she's [sadly] more associated with her death than her life. She's the "princess" of this dysfunctional fairytale.

Margaret Qualley who plays Pussycat, the Manson girl that's in the car with Brad in the trailer, has more input/dialogue apparently. Did not see that coming!

[LaLaLand]

I really hope this film will match (or even succeed) Pulp Fiction. We need a film that is shocking, thrilling, quotable and one hell of a ride this generation to match PF and I have a feeling it could be this.

I totally agree, and this seems to be just that.

Reading many reviews it seems that it's a fun, nostalgic and heartfelt yet "wild ride" with like an unsettling tension slowly building on the periphery until BAM! This huge culmination that "shall not be named" happens. :hehe:

[LaLaLand]

Tarantino’s career topping, over-the-top finale can’t be described without spoilers. Despite a trademark misogynist angle that has to be mentioned, it’s an in-your-face stunner that unleashes spectacularly funny mayhem that results in giving the “Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood” part of the film’s title new meaning.

I'm SO intrigued but I'm going to at least TRY and not see spoilers if any do surface, critics have obeyed the rules thus far.

The movie is split into three acts...

and is set over just three days, within a period of 6 months in 1969:

Act 1. February 8
Act 2. February 9
Act 3. August 8 (the night of Sharon's murder irl)

The stories of Rick, Cliff, and Tate unfold over three days or, as Tarantino says, in three acts: February 8, February 9, and, finally, August 8—the night when Charles Manson (Damon Herriman) dispatched four members of his “Family” to the house next to Rick’s on Cielo Drive in Beverly Hills, where they found Tate, hairdresser Jay Sebring (Emile Hirsch), and three others.

[LaLaLand]

Two new official additions to the soundtrack (featured in the trailer)

Paul Revere & The Raiders - Good Thing
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Neil Diamond - Brother Love's Travelling Salvation Show
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[LaLaLand]

Cannes press conference:

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[Tony Montana]

I wish all the cast were there.

[LaLaLand]

Many listed cast don’t appear in the movie at all, including Danny Strong, James Marsden, Michael Madsen, James Remar, and Tim Roth.

:omgno:

All of those guys didn't make the final cut, and even Al Pacino had a scene or two cut from the final edit and isn't in it as much as people had predicted.

[LaLaLand]

Oh ffs.

Do NOT go on this movie's Wikipedia page if you don't want spoilers. I was just blissfully unaware reading through and accidentally read the ending of the movie :skull:

(Sounds good though ngl).

[Tony Montana]

Thanks for the heads up buddy, and sorry you had to see it. Why the **** is it even on Wikipedia this early? Seems like a trap.

[LaLaLand]

Thanks for the heads up buddy, and sorry you had to see it. Why the **** is it even on Wikipedia this early? Seems like a trap.

No worries!

No idea, someone just spoiling it for everyone else I guess and sticking two fingers up to QT. The whole plot is there in black and white for everyone to see. :bawling:

Got to admit though, it's made me much more eager to see this after reading! :hehe:

[Tony Montana]

No worries!

No idea, someone just spoiling it for everyone else I guess and sticking two fingers up to QT. The whole plot is there in black and white for everyone to see. :bawling:

Got to admit though, it's made me much more eager to see this after reading! :hehe:

The whole plot? That’s brutal and a joke. It’ll probably not be there by tomorrow.

[Tony Montana]

:omgno:

All of those guys didn't make the final cut, and even Al Pacino had a scene or two cut from the final edit and isn't in it as much as people had predicted.

What?! No Madsen and Roth? And Pacino’s hardly in it? Suddenly my excitement level has dwindled.

[LaLaLand]

The whole plot? That’s brutal and a joke. It’ll probably not be there by tomorrow.

Literally everything! It's not very "detailed", kind of vague but you get the picture.

There's also a huge thing about Brad's character on there, like his back story that I did NOT see coming. :shocked:

[Tony Montana]

It hasn’t actually but a little disappointed.

[Tony Montana]

Literally everything! It's not very "detailed", kind of vague but you get the picture.

There's also a huge thing about Brad's character on there, like his back story that I did NOT see coming. :shocked:

I’ll definitely be avoiding Wikipedia from now on. I haven’t read any spoilers on this film so far and I’d like to keep it that way.

[LaLaLand]

What?! No Madsen and Roth? And Pacino’s hardly in it? Suddenly my excitement level has dwindled.

Sadly not. :bawling:

Many are shocked by especially Pacino and Robbie's lack of "presence", but apparently it's all justified and it wouldn't be as good or better if they were in it more kind of thing.

This is still getting rave reviews, still in the late 80's and 90's on critic sites like Rotten Tomatoes etc after many reviews. Someone's called it "Pulp Fiction meets Jackie Brown with an Inglorious ending" :cheer2:

[LaLaLand]

95% with 42 reviews now on Rotten Tomatoes, continue to rise...

Usually it's the contrary! :omgno:

[Tony Montana]

95% with 42 reviews now on Rotten Tomatoes, continue to rise...

Usually it's the contrary! :omgno:

That's Quentin's new highest RT score, surpassing Pulp Fiction's 94%. Hopefully it stays that way or rises.

[LaLaLand]

In a new interview with IndieWire, Tarantino says he may recut OUATIH to make it longer following its 2h 39m premiere at Cannes.
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"I wouldn’t take anything else out," he said. "I’m going to explore possibly putting something back in. If anything, I wanted to go to Cannes too short. If I’m going to err, I’m going to err on too tight." Fred Raskin's first cut clocked in at 4h 20m, and included every single thing Tarantino shot. "Thats not unusual for an epic-y kind of movie," Tarantino says. Sony head Tom Rothman is on board: "It's his movie. We're privileged to be along for the ride." Tarantino touches on more aspects of the film in the interview, referring to Robbie's Tate as an "angelic presence," and calling Spahn Ranch one of the best sets he's ever had of any of his movies: "It's scary and it is creepy."

PLEASE do it! :cheer2:

[Tony Montana]

Wow 4hrs 20 minutes? That would've been the longest film ever.

[Tony Montana]

It has a 96% rating on rotten tomatoes and a 9.8/10 on IMDB.

[LaLaLand]

Wow 4hrs 20 minutes? That would've been the longest film ever.

Yeah! Maybe don't release that in theatres but I'm definitely here for an ultimate Director's Cut DVD! :hehe:

[LaLaLand]

It has a 96% rating on rotten tomatoes and a 9.8/10 on IMDB.

It's crazy! There's a bit of controversy around some of the reviews on RT that have been negative, they're all from Spanish reporters who can barely speak English... HMMMM. :fist::shrug:

Without them it would be 100%!

[Tony Montana]

Yeah! Maybe don't release that in theatres but I'm definitely here for an ultimate Director's Cut DVD! :hehe:

Same. Most directors usually consider their ultimate director's cut to be superior and the definitive version of it. Ridley Scott's Kingdom of Heaven for example.

[Tony Montana]

It's crazy! There's a bit of controversy around some of the reviews on RT that have been negative, they're all from Spanish reporters who can barely speak English... HMMMM. :fist::shrug:

Without them it would be 100%!

Damn them! :fist:

[LaLaLand]

First award in the bag!

The dog who plays Brad Pitt's character's dog Brandy in the movie has won the "Palm Dog" award/collar today in Cannes! :laugh2: Bless! Apparently, Brandy is involved in the "big show down" at the end of the movie, probably in a QT self-reference to that horrible scene in Django maybe?

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I must add, that dog with them here is NOT the dog in the movie. This is:

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[LaLaLand]

The awards ceremony is well underway at Cannes.

Palme d'Or to be announced shortly! :fc:

[Tony Montana]

Mess is there an actual award for Dogs?

[Tony Montana]

The awards ceremony is well underway at Cannes.

Palme d'Or to be announced shortly! :fc:

:fc:

[LaLaLand]

Mess is there an actual award for Dogs?

Yep! Been going since 2001.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Dog_Award

[LaLaLand]

Seems like the Palme is between this or "Parasite", a South Korean movie. Could even be a joint win...

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[LaLaLand]

Didn't win the Palme.

Went to "Parasite".

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[Tony Montana]

Disappointed af. :sad::sad::sad:

[Tony Montana]

Hopefully Once a upon a time in Hollywood will at least win some Oscar glory.

[LaLaLand]

Hopefully!! It's definitely looking like it's more an Academy/American favourite rather than an artsy Cannes favourite so Oscars/Golden Globes and even BAFTAs I can see it doing very well.

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[LaLaLand]

New shot:

New image of Leonardo DiCaprio as Rick Dalton on the set of a Western in Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood, via Quentin Tarantino's wife, Daniella Pick — Pick is also featured in the photo, as a character likely named Daphna Ben-Cobo (from her IMDb).

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Quentin giving his new wife a role :joker:

[Tony Montana]

That's like a reminiscent of Goodfellas poker scene.

[LaLaLand]

Also, we have a confirmed Clem and Susan Atkins (the one who killed Tate) from the Manson Family (use arrows):

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[LaLaLand]

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50 days to go!

[LaLaLand]

Once Upon A Time In Hollywood Is ‘A Celebration Of Sharon Tate’s Life’, Says Margot Robbie


For his last few flicks, Quentin Tarantino has turned somewhat historical – heading back to the Second World War, and Civil War-era America. But for his latest, he’s revisiting a more recent era: the end of Hollywood's Golden Age. Once Upon A Time In Hollywood sees QT recreate the L.A. of his youth, conjuring the summer of ’69. Wandering through this Tarantino-ised vision of the film industry will be a mix of fictional and non-fictional characters – from Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt as the made-up aspiring actor Rick Dalton and his stunt double Cliff Booth, respectively, to Margot Robbie playing real-life actor Sharon Tate, who starred in a number of films through the ‘60s before her untimely death at the hands of the Manson Family cult.

While the film is said to incorporate the Manson murders in some way, Robbie tells the upcoming new issue of Empire that the film is a ‘celebration’ of the hippy icon.

“Sharon embodies the best parts of the ‘60s,” Robbie tells Empire. “This is a celebration of her life. And you get a lot of hang time with her in this film.” The actor also revealed that she wore a pair of earrings and a ring that originally belonged to Tate during filming, lent to her by Sharon’s younger sister Debra. “I guess it sounds like I’m being a bit spiritual or whatever, but it really did help me ground the character in something real,” she says. “I wanted to honor her memory and bring the best parts of Sharon forward. And I found it really quite moving to have a piece of her with me.”

Link (https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/upon-time-hollywood-celebration-sharon-tate-life-says-margot-robbie-exclusive-im/)

[LaLaLand]

Two new images:

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[LaLaLand]

Lights, camera, action! Here’s the exclusive subscriber cover for Empire’s Once Upon A Time In Hollywood issue,

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Very cool! :love:

[LaLaLand]

Official poster and it's BEAUTIFUL!! :omgno: :love:

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[LaLaLand]

HQ:

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(Notice Quentin is actually in the poster himself, such a troll :joker:)

[LaLaLand]

Just one month until this is released in America!

Can’t believe how close it is considering how long ago I started this thread! :omgno:

[LaLaLand]

There’s reportedly a big Hollywood red carpet Premiere being planned at the Dolby Theatre a few days before the American release with a rumoured after party at The Playboy Mansion. Amazing!

[LaLaLand]

As of now (June 27) this movie still has phenomenal scorings on critics sites:

On review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 92% based on 65 reviews, with an average rating of 8.19/10.

Metacritic, which uses a weighted average, assigned the film a score of 88 out of 100, based on 18 critics, indicating "universal acclaim".

92% from 65 reviews is insane. Be interesting to see how it changes in a few weeks.

[LaLaLand]

So yano how QT said he's stopping after 10 movies? Well, he's changed his tune and it now sounds like OUATIH will be his last "big movie". :sad:

"I think when it comes to theatrical movies, I've come to the end of the road. I see myself writing books and starting to write theatre, so I'll still be creative. I just think I've given all I have to give to movies."

"Well, um, if it's [OUATIH] really well received, maybe I won't go to 10. Maybe I'll stop right now! Maybe I'll stop while I'm ahead. We'll see."

Pitt commented:

"No, I don't think he's bluffing at all. I think he's dead serious. And I kind of openly lament that to him, but he understands the math of when he feels like directors start falling off their game. But he has other plans and we're not going to have to say goodbye for a long time."

Link (https://movieweb.com/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-quentin-tarantino-retiring/?fbclid=IwAR2NARIwEgjaI1wU7vtf_fqxx4RctHU7thkh5Gf2 4TEg3a3m7EETlU4mzIU)

[Tony Montana]

Just one month until this is released in America!

Can’t believe how close it is considering how long ago I started this thread! :omgno:

Your dedication to this thread has been brilliant. :clap2:

[Tony Montana]

So yano how QT said he's stopping after 10 movies? Well, he's changed his tune and it now sounds like OUATIH will be his last "big movie". :sad:



Pitt commented:



Link (https://movieweb.com/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-quentin-tarantino-retiring/?fbclid=IwAR2NARIwEgjaI1wU7vtf_fqxx4RctHU7thkh5Gf2 4TEg3a3m7EETlU4mzIU)

I hope he doesn't stop after this film. Would be a real shame.

[LaLaLand]

Your dedication to this thread has been brilliant. :clap2:

Thanks! It's been a welcome focus/distraction for me as I'm going through a tough time atm.

Hopefully over the coming weeks once the TV promotion really starts circulating this thread might become more active. :joker:

[Tony Montana]

Thanks! It's been a welcome focus/distraction for me as I'm going through a tough time atm.

Hopefully over the coming weeks once the TV promotion really starts circulating this thread might become more active. :joker:

Sorry to hear that. Glad this film has been a good distraction for you.

Yeah, hopefully it will. :joker:

[LaLaLand]

Brad Pitt interview with GQ Australia, all about the movie:

https://www.gq.com.au/entertainment/film-tv/brad-pitt-on-tarantino-and-how-once-upon-a-time-came-to-life-its-a-love-letter-to-la-but-also-to-our-childhood/image-gallery/2bceaf3a2d2d887be2231e39d683bc0c

[LaLaLand]

Some brand new HQ shots including QT directing :drool::

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[LaLaLand]

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[LaLaLand]

One more, Al in a car I would kill for! :love:

http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-al-pacino.jpg

[Tony Montana]

Amazing pics.

Al looks like a boss.

[LaLaLand]

One more, Robert Redf... I mean Brad. :joker:

https://www.filmtv.it/imgbank/ZOOM/R201907/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-QT9_67895_r_rgb.jpg

[LaLaLand]

"According to a rating by Alberta Film Ratings today (July 8), the final runtime for OUATIH clocks in at 2hr 41m - that's two minutes longer than the version that played in Cannes. ArcLight Cinemas, which is hosting advance screenings of the film in 70mm at the Cinerama Dome on 7/20// & 7/21, also has the runtime displayed on their website."

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2hr 41mins!! A proper saga.

[LaLaLand]

Los Angeles has literally been bombarded with amazing, gigantic billboards promoting this! Major Promotion has officially begun!! 3 weeks to go!

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[LaLaLand]

Bruce Lee:

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[LaLaLand]

Cat/“Pussycat”:

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[LaLaLand]

Luke Perry :sad:

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[LaLaLand]

Possible new soundtrack addition, this was used on a new TV spot commercial for the movie. Roy Head - Treat Her Right:

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The TV spot:

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[LaLaLand]

A lewk

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[LaLaLand]

Tickets went on sale in the States today and QT's cinema The New Beverly in LA had early screenings for lucky cinema-goers last night! Reactions once again are all positive!

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[LaLaLand]

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[LaLaLand]

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[LaLaLand]

First look at Damian Lewis’ Steve McQueen, I kinda see it? Will probably be more convincing in motion:

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[LaLaLand]

New Q&A with Quentin, Margot, Leo & Brad:

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[LaLaLand]

Flick through, Timothy Olyphant, Al Pacino’s character billboards shown. LA is overrun! :joker:

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[LaLaLand]

Aww even Cliff’s dog gets a poster! :love:

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[LaLaLand]

Very cool article about how they "dressed up" Los Angeles back to how it was 50 years ago: How ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Turned the Clock Back for Its Shoot (https://variety.com/2019/artisans/production/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-quentin-tarantino-1203263909/)

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[LaLaLand]

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[LaLaLand]

Two new "TV spot commercials" featuring never-before-seen shots of Charles Manson (speaking), Squeaky and Lena Dunham's character.

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[LaLaLand]

A very good, lengthy interview with the 4 about the movie. Kinda hints at the ending and stuff too:

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[Marsh.]

Yeah, they're inadvertently revealing the circumstances of the ending. :laugh:

So it's all set on that one day (Tate's last) and I guess it will conclude with the sun rising on the next day, her remaining alive.

[LaLaLand]

Yeah, they're inadvertently revealing the circumstances of the ending. :laugh:

So it's all set on that one day (Tate's last) and I guess it will conclude with the sun rising on the next day, her remaining alive.

It's actually set over three days - February 8th, February 9th and then August 9th [murder date] 1969.

[Marsh.]

It's actually set over three days - Two days in February and then August 9 [murder date] 1969.

Now LISTEN. :nono:

[LaLaLand]

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[Marsh.]

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[Marsh.]

Aww, Margot didn't get much of a look in. :(

[LaLaLand]

Aww, Margot didn't get much of a look in. :(

Tbh I don't think there's much she can really talk about, the "ending" (whatever that entails) obviously heavily involves her but mustn't be spoiled and for the most part she's just doing everyday things throughout the film from what I can see (going to the movies, partying, visiting her friend Jay Sebring at his salon etc).

[Marsh.]

Yeah, true. This is one of those movies they'll all be able to talk about in greater depth a while after its release.

[LaLaLand]

New pretty cool Spanish (?) poster. Not sure about Margot/Brad/Leo’s positioning but the view of the hills and the members of the family is very cool:

https://noescinetodoloquereluce.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Erase_una_vez_en_Holywood_-_Cartel_final_Story_Sell.jpg

[Marsh.]

Looks fan made tbh.

[LaLaLand]

Looks fan made tbh.

Yeah it does, sadly it isn’t! :skull:

[Marsh.]

I think getting rid of all three of them would've made it better tbh. :laugh:

Less is often more.

[LaLaLand]

Yeah exactly, the scene of the Hollywood Hills and the car (which I assume contains Sharon and co on their way home on “the night”) meeting the Family is enough. I suppose though if you’ve got a trio like this you’re going to want to make sure people know they’re in this! Ah well :joker:

[LaLaLand]

Inside Rick's house and info about the huge production of the movie set-wise:

“It’s Quentin’s love letter to the city he grew up in,” says the film’s production designer, Barbara Ling. No stranger to Los Angeles in the 1960s (she recreated the period's Sunset Strip and Laurel Canyon environs in the 1991 film The Doors), the designer found a wealth of material from the auteur himself. (Among the key visual influences for Tarantino: the Cinerama Dome; Panorama City, CA; the Hullabaloo TV series; and Westerns.) “Being an absolute movie encyclopedia, Quentin ran films from the ’60s”—such as The Wrecking Crew, Valley of the Dolls, and Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice—”at his movie theater once a week for us,” she says. “1969 was such a vivid period of color, particularly in Los Angeles, and there was a feel of neon and Op Art everywhere” that provided a point of reference for the color scheme.

Viewers have a front row seat on a Tarantino time travel machine via the 150 sets that include an array of television and film backlots, the Dalton and Tate houses, the Playboy Mansion, and even an original Taco Bell. Forgoing the use of computer-generated imagery or sets built on the backlot, Los Angeles storefronts, billboards, streets, and exteriors received a meticulously detailed facelift at their actual locations, an authentic touch that adds to the nostalgia. Some locations did not weather the winds of time— such as the Spahn Movie Ranch, a location used to shoot low-budget Westerns in the 1950s that eventually became the home of the Manson family—so they were created from scratch. “The sets were completely burned down in 1970, so all that was left was scrub and rock,” says Ling.

For Rick Dalton’s house, the design crew searched for the perfect ranch house only to encounter one obstacle after another. The goal of a one-story ranch-style midcentury with a sloped ceiling, soffits, and a pool with a great view meant shooting three separate locations instead of one. “It was hard to find something that was not a mega-mansion,” comments Ling. Looking to the character’s story arc, she says, “Rick is somebody who bought a house at the height of his career and hasn’t renovated since he was a bachelor. He was not into the pop culture of the moment. The development of the character was about a TV star in his era, and everything was given to him from a [studio] set, such as the saddle of a horse from a TV show or a movie poster."

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[LaLaLand]

This has officially been Rated R or 18 here in the UK, for the usual, obvious reasons. Language, violence etc so, a expect "Tarantino classic" :joker:

[LaLaLand]

We finally know what Tim Roth's part was (he didn't make the final cut of the film sadly).

Hollywood men's hairstylist/Manson victim/Tate's ex-turned-best mate Jay Sebring (played by Emile Hirsch) had like a "proper", actual butler at home. Roth played, or was supposed to play, that butler. Tarantino was going for a similar dynamic as Dudley Moore's title character had with his butler in the movie "Arthur".

[LaLaLand]

QT on potential Star Trek movie, DRAGS Simon Pegg:

"I will say one thing about Star Trek that I’ve been waiting for someone to bring up. I don’t know if I’ll do it or not. I’ve got to figure it out, but Mark wrote a really cool script. I like it a lot. There’s some things I need to work on but I really, really liked it. I get annoyed at Simon Pegg. He doesn’t know anything about what’s going on and he keeps making all these comments as if he knows about stuff. One of the comments he said, he’s like “Well, look, it’s not going to be Pulp Fiction in space.” Yes, it is! [laughs hard]. If I do it, that’s exactly what it’ll be. It’ll be Pulp Fiction in space. That Pulp Fiction-y aspect, when I read the script, I felt, I have never read a science fiction movie that has this **** in it, ever. There’s no science fiction movie that has this in it. And they said, I know, that’s why we want to make it. It’s, at the very least, unique in that regard."

[LaLaLand]

Just found out that Toni Basil (as in “Hey Mickey!” Toni Basil) is a choreographer for this movie... Random!? :laugh2:

[LaLaLand]

First proper clip, Kurt Russell’s character visits Rick in his trailer on set and airs his obvious grievances:

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[Tony Montana]

New pretty cool Spanish (?) poster. Not sure about Margot/Brad/Leo’s positioning but the view of the hills and the members of the family is very cool:

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Poster looks awesome but they should not have had Brad and Leo on it.

Just having Margot would've been perfect.

[Tony Montana]

We finally know what Tim Roth's part was (he didn't make the final cut of the film sadly).

Hollywood men's hairstylist/Manson victim/Tate's ex-turned-best mate Jay Sebring (played by Emile Hirsch) had like a "proper", actual butler at home. Roth played, or was supposed to play, that butler. Tarantino was going for a similar dynamic as Dudley Moore's title character had with his butler in the movie "Arthur".

:sad: Waste to not have him in the film.

[James]

I heard today that Tarantino might make a TV series based on the series that the main character of the new film stars in.

He wrote five episodes for it while writing the film.

Here's an article - http://collider.com/quentin-tarantino-western-tv-show-bounty-law/

[LaLaLand]

I heard today that Tarantino might make a TV series based on the series that the main character of the new film stars in.

He wrote five episodes for it while writing the film.

Here's an article - http://collider.com/quentin-tarantino-western-tv-show-bounty-law/

Yeah I heard that! Think it was in a recent interview with Deadline I read that.

Yeah here, good interview! Goes into real detail surrounding the movie, characters, inspo etc: Link (https://deadline.com/2019/07/quentin-tarantino-once-upon-a-time-interview-leonardo-dicaprio-brad-pitt-margot-robbie-star-trek-pulp-fiction-1202647835/)

I do know he also bought the rights to Lancer, the real cowboy series from back in the day that features in this movie (Timothy Olyphant and Luke Perry play the two leads James Stacy and Wayne Maunder, who played the characters Johnny Madrid and Scott Lancer respectively). We could be in for possibly a few QT TV Westerns harking back to "The Golden Age"...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancer_(TV_series)

[LaLaLand]

OH also, from the Deadline interview (link in post above) QT told what scenes he has put into the final cut of this movie (2 minutes more than the Cannes cut):

So the only thing I actually put back basically, I extended a slight little bit of a scene with Sharon Tate, when she picks up a hitchhiker. Then the scene where James Stacy [Timothy Olyphant] talks to Rick [Dalton, DiCaprio’s character] and you suddenly see Rick in The Great Escape, and what would have happened if he was in that movie.

The Great Escape!!! :flutter:

[LaLaLand]

This is amazing, the attention to detail here is just incredible. :flutter:

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[LaLaLand]

HQ clip, Rick's stutter is very prominent! Moreso than I expected!:

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[Alf]

Another Tarantino flop? He's made more flops than hits, so chances are this will be a flop too.

[Marsh.]

Another Tarantino flop? He's made more flops than hits, so chances are this will be a flop too.

He's made 9 movies and at least 6 or 7 are held in high regard. Not bad for a director.

There's many others who've made 10x the number he has with less hits.

[Alf]

He's made 9 movies and at least 6 or 7 are held in high regard. Not bad for a director.

There's many others who've made 10x the number he has with less hits.High regard with who? Not me.

[Jake.]

High regard with who? Not me.

I’m sure he’s gutted

[Tony Montana]

Another Tarantino flop? He's made more flops than hits, so chances are this will be a flop too.

The only 'flop' film he's made is Death Proof. All his other films have been well received.

[Tony Montana]

High regard with who? Not me.

Movie critics, movie fanatics etc.

[Tony Montana]

I’m sure he’s gutted

:joker:

[Marsh.]

High regard with who? Not me.

Well a film isn't a flop because you didn't like it. :joker:

[Alf]

Well a film isn't a flop because you didn't like it. :joker:Yes it is, only I get to decide what's a hit and a flop for me.

The Shawshank Redemption originally was a flop in the wide World, does that mean by your logic, it can never be considered a great film?

[LaLaLand]

Another Tarantino flop? He's made more flops than hits, so chances are this will be a flop too.

:joker::joker::joker::joker: Next joke!

[Alf]

:joker::joker::joker::joker: Next joke!I can't imagine how excited you'd get if you ever discovered the work of Hitchcock, if this is how excited you get over Tarantino's work.

[Marsh.]

Yes it is, only I get to decide what's a hit and a flop for me.

The Shawshank Redemption originally was a flop in the wide World, does that mean by your logic, it can never be considered a great film?

This makes no sense. You start by talking about your own personal taste and then use an example of what an unrelated film did commercially.

You need to read your posts twice before posting. :laugh:

Regardless of what you think of Tarantino's work, they have been hits, both critically and commercially.

[LaLaLand]

I can't imagine how excited you'd get if you ever discovered the work of Hitchcock, if this is how excited you get over Tarantino's work.

I’m a massive fan of Hitchcock actually so don’t make assumptions. In my opinion, they’re two completely different filmmakers but QT just pips it to the post for best overall. An amazing director and storyteller.

[Alf]

This makes no sense. You start by talking about your own personal taste and then use an example of what an unrelated film did commercially.

You need to read your posts twice before posting. :laugh:

Regardless of what you think of Tarantino's work, they have been hits, both critically and commercially.He hasn't made one film yet that I'd score 10/10 and I'm generous at giving out a 10, only today I gave Wallace and Gromit curse of the were rabbit a 10/10.

Pulp Fiction I'd score a 9/10, Reservoir and Inglorious I'd score a 7 or 8 and Django a 6, everying else I'd score under 5.

[Alf]

I’m a massive fan of Hitchcock actually so don’t make assumptions. In my opinion, they’re two completely different filmmakers but QT just pips it to the post for best overall. An amazing director and storyteller.You have a lot to learn if you want to become a knowledgeable film buff like me.

[LaLaLand]

ANYWAY

This time next week this movie will be out in America, can’t believe it. Seems like the wait was forever and now it’s just “here”, crazy.

Still no soundtrack info though!

[Alf]

:wavey:ANYWAY

This time next week this movie will be out in America, can’t believe it. Seems like the wait was forever and now it’s just “here”, crazy.

Still no soundtrack info though!You won't learn by ignoring the facts, you can learn a lot from me.

[LaLaLand]

:wavey:You won't learn by ignoring the facts, you can learn a lot from me.

Mate you have a still of Prisoner Cell Block H in your sig if this is a suggestion of your taste in entertainment then I will just have to agree to disagree! :joker:

[Alf]

Mate you have a still of Prisoner Cell Block H in your sig if this is a suggestion of your taste in entertainment then I will just have to agree to disagree! :joker:Blasphemy.

My mates and I grew up with Prisoner Cell block H, we never missed an episode, 11:10pm every Thursday night, sometimes a Monday night. You had to be stoned to enjoy it though, if we didn't have any pot, then it wasn't as enjoyable, luckily, most of the time we had some smoke.

[LaLaLand]

New official Italian poster:

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[Marsh.]

They went a bit heavy on poor Margot's photoshopping.

[LaLaLand]

They went a bit heavy on poor Margot's photoshopping.

Seems as though they're trying to airbrush her facially to look more "Sharon" in these shots, her eyes especially.

[Marsh.]

Ahh, I didn't spot that. You can see it around her mouth.

[LaLaLand]

Like this, if I didn't know who it was, I would never have said Margot. So airbrushed they totally changed her features, reshaped her nose, tried making her eyes more "sunken" etc:

https://www.pedestrian.tv/content/uploads/2019/03/margot-1-637x397.jpg

VS. what she actually looks like in the movie:

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Insane. She looks really like Sharon in the second photo though, scarily similar.

[Tony Montana]

There's a post credits scene.

Since Quentin Tarantino world premiered his latest movie, "Once Upon a Time… in Hollywood," at the Cannes Film Festival in May, many have wondered whether the auteur would mess around with the movie in the weeks before its theatrical release by Sony on July 26.

According to the studio's chairman, Tom Rothman, he did.

"There's an end credit sequence now," Rotham revealed to Business Insider. "That wasn't in Cannes. So stick around after the credits. And there's one tiny section added, a visual effects sequence that wasn't finished in time for Cannes. So the run time is maybe a minute or something longer. But it basically is the same movie that was at Cannes."

https://www.businessinsider.com/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-has-end-credit-scene-2019-7?r=US&IR=T

[LaLaLand]

A visual effects sequence? Interesting. Will have to remember to stay seated when it ends! Ha.

Think I already posted but QT has added in like a minute more Sharon dialogue (probably from that reporter at cannes moaning that Margot didn’t speak much) and a scene showing Rick in “The Great Escape” of all things! :love:

[Braden]

I adore Tarantino's work, but I honestly couldn't care less about this film :(

[LaLaLand]

I adore Tarantino's work, but I honestly couldn't care less about this film :(

Really that’s a shame. This seems to be his most critically acclaimed for a long time so it’s very exciting for me as a big fan anyway. People are raving about t, it’s like Tarantino to the max, Pulp Fiction on acid!

[Braden]

Really that’s a shame. This seems to be his most critically acclaimed for a long time so it’s very exciting for me as a big fan anyway. People are raving about t, it’s like Tarantino to the max, Pulp Fiction on acid!

Well, that definitely excites me a bit more. The concept itself doesn't really grab me, and it's a shame the cast (though, some of the usual suspects appear) has taken a Hollywood (lol) turn.

[LaLaLand]

Well, that definitely excites me a bit more. The concept itself doesn't really grab me, and it's a shame the cast (though, some of the usual suspects appear) has taken a Hollywood (lol) turn.

Yeah I think the main "gist" of this, unless you're kind of into the movie industry/the 60's etc might sound a bit niche perhaps.

BUT there's so much more than that. From reading reviews there's so much going on it's like this big saga across classic Hollywood, basically Pulp Fiction 1969 with interlinking/connecting characters living separate lives. Instead of Jules/Vince, Marcellus/Butch and Mia we have Rick/Cliff, Sharon/Manson Family and Bruce bloody Lee to name a few!

Funny, sad, tense, genuinely unsettling at times and of course, action packed. Beautifully shot too from what I can gather (thanks to cinematographer Robert Richardson, he also shot Hateful Eight, Django, Kill Bill and Inglorious with QT).

[Marsh.]

Well, that definitely excites me a bit more. The concept itself doesn't really grab me, and it's a shame the cast (though, some of the usual suspects appear) has taken a Hollywood (lol) turn.

No different to the likes of Hateful Eight and Inglorious Basterds in terms of an all star cast tbh.

[Braden]

No different to the likes of Hateful Eight and Inglorious Basterds in terms of an all star cast tbh.

I don't agree, sorry.

[Marsh.]

I don't agree, sorry.

:unsure: Fair enough but I don't see why. Most of his movies have always had "star" quality. Even in cases like John Travolta and putting him in an unexpected type of role.

Leo and Brad especially are not new to Tarantino's movies. :shrug:

[Tony Montana]

Yeah I think the main "gist" of this, unless you're kind of into the movie industry/the 60's etc might sound a bit niche perhaps.

BUT there's so much more than that. From reading reviews there's so much going on it's like this big saga across classic Hollywood, basically Pulp Fiction 1969 with interlinking/connecting characters living separate lives. Instead of Jules/Vince, Marcellus/Butch and Mia we have Rick/Cliff, Sharon/Manson Family and Bruce bloody Lee to name a few!

Funny, sad, tense, genuinely unsettling at times and of course, action packed. Beautifully shot too from what I can gather (thanks to cinematographer Robert Richardson, he also shot Hateful Eight, Django, Kill Bill and Inglorious with QT).

That excites me a lot.

[LaLaLand]

Tbh I think the reason he's gone with these three big names as leads is really because it's a HOLLYWOOD MOVIE. If we had three leads who perhaps weren't "at the top" we wouldn't be as invested as them supposedly being "big stars" in the movie, yano? Idk, that's my theory.

It's a movie celebrating Old Hollywood, so why wouldn't he use "the cream of the crop" of today's Hollywood to do this kind of thing.

Apart from those three, the "main characters" otherwise are relatively up and coming (Margaret Qualley, Dakota Fanning, Mike Moh, Damon Herriman etc).

[Braden]

Perhaps, I'm bitter because Tim Roth was left on the cutting room floor.

[LaLaLand]

Perhaps, I'm bitter because Tim Roth was left on the cutting room floor.

Yeah that sucks. Always nice to see as many recurring actors in QT's movies as possible. :sad: But we still have Kurt Russell, Michael Madsen, Bruce Dern so.

The original "cut" of this movie, pre-necessary editing was like 4 hours (including all cast and every single scene) and Quentin said he'd be interested in releasing a super cut, imagine!?

[LaLaLand]

She's fiiiiiiiiiiiiit but are you getting the Jackie Brown throwback here? The very same coloured wall from Jackie Brown at the airport from the iconic opening scene (which itself is a nod to The Graduate)... Little things. :love:

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[LaLaLand]

Also, first shot of Rumer Willis as actress Joanna Pettet, close friend of Tate who had lunch with her the day of the murder:

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[LaLaLand]

There was an advanced public screening last night at the classic Cinerama Dome in LA (and I think there’s another tonight not sure) and, as expected by now, movie-goer reviews/Tweets have been very positive. It just sounds absolutely wild.

Will embed some Tweets later when I’m not on my phone!

[LaLaLand]

HQ character posters/billboards:

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[LaLaLand]

Some Tweets from last night's screening (use arrow):

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[Alf]

Is this film about the decline of Golden age of Hollywood? That's what I heard somewhere. I haven't read any of this thread and I'm to hot and bothered to start now.

[LaLaLand]

Is this film about the decline of Golden age of Hollywood? That's what I heard somewhere. I haven't read any of this thread and I'm to hot and bothered to start now.

Basically yes, the "end of an era" of Old Hollywood essentially.

So Leo's character was once a big TV star in the early 60's, the leading man/action hero of a Western show and Brad is his best mate and long-time stunt double (as they had back in the day, like Burt Reynolds/Hal Needham).

This movie is set in 1969, so by this time Leo's becoming a has-been (and a raging alcoholic) as audiences no longer want the classic, well-groomed action hero anymore, they want a new kind of entertainment/"leading man", more gritty and real to relate to the counterculture movement ("New Hollywood").

Speaking of the counterculture movement, Leo lives next door to Sharon Tate/Roman Polanski on Cielo Drive. Tate of course was and up-and--coming actress who was brutally murdered by The Manson Family, who are in themselves like a secondary plot, like a sinister backdrop to this movie that keeps bubbling under until the big finale.

It's basically Pulp Fiction 1969, "a day (or three) in the life" of these three characters whose stories at points cross and interconnect featuring classic Hollywood and Los Angeles in all it's glory with appearances from the likes of Bruce Lee, Steve McQueen and other Hollywood "icons", both on and off-screen as they try and figure out a way to stay relevant for this fast-approaching "new era" of their industry.

[LaLaLand]

So a guy over on a movie forum who was at the screening last night has basically said that the "spoiled ending" up on Wikipedia is a complete farce so.

He also says:

For now, all I'll say is the first scene with the Manson girls skipping around the back alleys of Hollywood Blvd. scrounging for leftover food is one of the most unsettling images I've ever seen in a Tarantino film.

:omgno:

[LaLaLand]

Oh wow okay the red-carpet premiere is happening tonight in LA, totally forgot! :joker:

[LaLaLand]

So apparently, QT has been in talks with Uma Thurman about a possible Kill Bill 3.

How that would quite work idk seeing as all the targets are dead but :shrug:

[Tony Montana]

So apparently, QT has been in talks with Uma Thurman about a possible Kill Bill 3.

How that would quite work idk seeing as all the targets are dead but :shrug:

Yeah, I've read about this in the past.

There's been theories that Vernita Green's daughter may exact revenge against Beatrice.

[LaLaLand]

Yeah, I've read about this in the past.

There's been theories that Vernita Green's daughter may exact revenge against Beatrice.

Ahhh! I see that, that'd be cool.

There's so many things flying around though now he's confirmed he's absolutely doing -at least- one more "big movie".

There's Kill Bill 3, Star Trek, Django & Zorro crossover and then there's that Australian Western with a female lead that he's spoke about before wanting to do.

Guess we'll find out in about 5 years time! :joker:

[LaLaLand]

The premiere is underway, everyone's slowly arriving and going inside. It's really old-school, they have a huge bus with the movie on outside, an old 60's bus advertising the radio station featured in the movie even the huge Pussycat Theatre sign they recreated for the movie, awesome.

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[LaLaLand]

Our main attractions! :flutter:

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[LaLaLand]

WOW okay so I’m really happy!

Turns out, the “spoiled ending” that was plastered on Wikipedia and the like that I regretfully read was complete rubbish and the ending of this movie is nothing like it.

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Phew!!

[LaLaLand]

James Marsden’s cut role has been revealed, he should have played a young Burt Reynolds. Reynolds of course was originally meant to play George Spahn in this movie but passed away sadly just before filming.

Would have been great to see both.

[LaLaLand]

I’ve also seen the first few outright negative reviews today, just two or three but still.

However the % has now risen to 96 in Rotten Tomatoes so.

[LaLaLand]

A few of the "awful" reviews:

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Self-indulgent. Misogynist. Completely awful. These are but a few words that could be used to describe Once Upon a Time…in Hollywood, the wayward new film from Quentin Taratino. A supposed love letter to old Hollywood, this film is nothing more than Quentin Tarantino being given two hours and forty five minutes to run the audience through all his particular fetishes and indulge his worst instincts.

Rick Dalton (Leonardo DiCaprio) and Cliff Booth (Brad Pitt) are an actor-stuntman team that have been friends for years, even as their careers are beginning to wane. Dalton still has the fame of his Bounty Law tv show but is now more known for playing the heavy to other leading men. Booth meanwhile has taken to becoming more like an employee for Dalton, fixing his TV antennae and driving him around. Their lives begin to change as Booth makes the acquaintance of a young girl who hangs around Charles Manson and new neighbors named Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski move next door.

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood does manage to nail the friendship between stuntman and actor well. Thank goodness or this movie would not have a single redeeming quality. Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio are admittedly fantastic in their roles, even when the movie around is doing everything in its power to get you to not notice. Pitt is particularly great at bending his megawatt movie star power into something breezy, yet maintaining a coiled intensity that allows him to make his presence known in every scene.

It’s too bad the same kind of attention was not paid to anyone else as Quentin Tarantino shows more love and appreciation for the dirty feet of his female characters than he does to the characters themselves. (Seriously, how many shots do we need of dirty feet where they don’t belong: on dashboard and movie seats?) Margot Robbie is completely wasted as Sharon Tate, serving as nothing more than a red herring and a famous face. She barely has any lines and Quentin has no desire to make her character standout without them, calling into question his tirade at Cannes. Margaret Qualley, so vivid in Fosse/Verdon, is used for little more than an elevated manic pixie dream girl who wants to suck Booth’s cock while he’s driving her to a ranch in Chatsworth. The only female character that is served in any kind of significant way other than to be an object of QT’s fetishes is the young actress, played by Julia Butters, on the set of the new western Rick Dalton, who provides a jolt of energy the movie so desperately needs.

The reason that jolt of energy is needed is because the script of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is truly terrible. Tarantino is fully on the loose with this picture and with nothing holding him back (Sally Menke’s editorial eye is forever missed), he unleashes a torrent of bad ideas. There’s a running joke in this film that Booth has killed his wife and gotten away with it and in a flashback we see that his wife was a bitch. No other explanation needed and with even more violence against women set to come up in the movie, it all seems forgotten. This continues to extend through his disregard for the female characters doing anything of substance, the ruining of one potential great scene with Bruce Lee (Mike Moh), and just general nonsense about how great movies are that’s supposed to carry the audience towards an insane third act. Once Upon a Time…In Hollywood’s reputation will mainly rest on whether you think the Booth/Dalton stuff is strong enough to carry you through the muck of the rest of the film. For this reviewer, it was not, landing this film among the worst I’ve seen this year.

I hated it. And it really pains me to say that.

11 months of intense anticipation after spending 3 days on the Hollywood Blvd set last summer may have set me up for a fall. But...

It draaaaaged. Some scenes went nowhere. Most scenes were way too long. I liked Rick's existential professional dilema and the relationship he had with Cliff. The perforrmances were strong.

The Third Act. Jesus, what bull****. It felt like it was from a completely different movie. I still can't believe he made the choices he did.

I think it would be a much better film at, say, 100 minutes (with a different ending!) than this 162 minute mess.

And let's ponder for a moment about the huge bucks he spent regressing all of those cool L.A. locations back to 1969. There was probably less than 45 seconds of that footage in the whole film. That's Heaven's Gate-level excess. Of course, including more of that footage would have made the film drag even more--so it was kind of a lose-lose.

And I'm seriously over of his foot fetish. It's become embarrassing, to be honest.

Seems like feminists will have a real problem with this movie, and people seem to have a problem with the way Bruce Lee is portrayed here, already seen "racist" being thrown around. BUT it was 1969, and the world was a very different place back then and it has to be represented as such to be accurate.

[LaLaLand]

Soundtrack is apparently coming out end of the week, Friday possibly (Spotify anyway).

Apparently the songs have been picked very cleverly and allude to the plot which possibly explains the late release/lack of info. For example, I've heard "Out of Time" by The Rolling Stones is on there - who exactly is "out of time" and for what only the people who have seen the film will know.

I'm seeing time after time that whatever goes down in the end is mind-blowing, "comes out of nowhere", some huge twist. :omgno:

[Marsh.]

Calling it "cruel" and "insulting" is intriguing. :omgno:

[LaLaLand]

Calling it "cruel" and "insulting" is intriguing. :omgno:

Yeah it kind of makes me get the feeling that this may not be so revisionist like Inglorious after all... :omgno:

[Marsh.]

I'm imagining some kind of Kill Bill style fight between Sharon and the Mansons with her winning? :hehe:

[LaLaLand]

I'm imagining some kind of Kill Bill style fight between Sharon and the Mansons with her winning? :hehe:

That's what I'd imagined all along yano, but seeing those bad reviews kind of alludes to a possibility that Tate isn't "saved" perhaps, but idk.

I want to go in completely blind to what happens in August so I get potentially genuinely shocked. NOTHING prepared me for the ending of Inglorious Basterds, I remember sitting there with my jaw almost on the floor, wasn't a sound in the cinema, people even stopped eating!
:joker:

[LaLaLand]

OH the guy calling it cruel has expanded his thoughts in another summary:

10. "Once Upon a Time in … Hollywood" (2019) Sharon Tate (Margot Robbie) is a meaningless footnote in her own life story in Quentin Tarantino’s baffling and insulting ode to 1960s Hollywood. Robbie is criminally underutilized, taking a backseat to a fictional, mediocre actor (Leonardo DiCaprio) and his stunt double (Brad Pitt). They worry about their careers and mock Bruce Lee for two hours, until the film builds to a cruel, misogynistic Manson Family climax that finally reveals the true reason the film exists: to be a shameless self-insert fantasy. “Once Upon a Time” is by far Tarantino’s most immature film, a nonstop nostalgia fetish parade with no demonstrable respect for the real-life tragedies it portrays.

He's ranked it as QT's worst movie...

1. Jackie Brown (I love it but better than Pulp/IB/Bill? Nah!)
2. Pulp Fiction
3. Inglorious Basterds
4. Kill Bill 1
5. Django Unchained
6. Reservoir Dogs
7. Death Proof
8. Kill Bill 2
9. The Hateful 8
10. OUATIH

[Marsh.]

a meaningless footnote in her own life story

Hmm, this might be his issue. He was expecting a Sharon Tate life story but Tarantino has never stated it was.

[LaLaLand]

Hmm, this might be his issue. He was expecting a Sharon Tate life story but Tarantino has never stated it was.

True! Sharon/Manson is a "backdrop" to the movie, this has been made clear from day 1. This has never been, in any way, "a movie about Sharon Tate". It's a movie about Hollywood and the industry of 60's Hollywood first and foremost. :fist:

[James]

I watched a few videos on YouTube that gave it 7 out of 10 type reviews.

[LaLaLand]

New sister-website launched, "Once Upon a Time in 1969" - 1969 changed everything — explore the dramatic events, iconic locations, and the cultural shocks that shaped life Once Upon a Time … In Hollywood.

Link (https://www.onceuponatimein1969.com/)

VERY cool! Puts the setting and events of the movie in context.

[Alf]

A few of the "awful" reviews:

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Seems like feminists will have a real problem with this movie, and people seem to have a problem with the way Bruce Lee is portrayed here, already seen "racist" being thrown around. BUT it was 1969, and the world was a very different place back then and it has to be represented as such to be accurate.My prediction of a flop carries a bit more weight now.

Tarantino has lived off the reputation of his early 90s films, Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. He's never improved as a director since then, and that was almost 30 years ago.

[LaLaLand]

My prediction of a flop carries a bit more weight now.

Tarantino has lived off the reputation of his early 90s films, Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. He's never improved as a director since then, and that was almost 30 years ago.

Inglorious Basterds is cinematically incredible though so.

[Tony Montana]

My prediction of a flop carries a bit more weight now.

Tarantino has lived off the reputation of his early 90s films, Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. He's never improved as a director since then, and that was almost 30 years ago.

Again, all of his films post Pulp Fiction have been critically acclaimed apart from Death Proof. Both Inglourious Basterds and Django Unchained were nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars and Tarantino won Best Screenplay for Django, as well as receiving nominations for Best Director in both films.

[Alf]

Again, all of his films post Pulp Fiction have been critically acclaimed apart from Death Proof. Both Inglourious Basterds and Django Unchained were nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars and Tarantino won Best Screenplay for Django, as well as receiving nominations for Best Director in both films.Can't really count the Oscars as a credible sauce, lots of tripe wins and gets nominated for Oscars. Their judgement has been found wanting on many occasions.

[LaLaLand]

Can't really count the Oscars as a credible sauce, lots of tripe wins and gets nominated for Oscars. Their judgement has been found wanting on many occasions.

Ugh LOVE credible sauce on my chips! :hehe::joker:

Only messing!

[Alf]

Ugh LOVE credible sauce on my chips! :hehe::joker:

Only messing!I did that purposely and you can't prove otherwise.

[Alf]

Scorsese Is due to have a film out by the end of the year.

The Irishman

Starring
Robert De Niro
Al Pacino
Harvey Keitel
Joe Pesci

[LaLaLand]

Advert was just on the TV!! First one I’ve seen :love:

[Tony Montana]

Advert was just on the TV!! First one I’ve seen :love:

Yeah, I just saw it too. On ITV2 during Love Island right?

It got me excited!

[LaLaLand]

Yeah, I just saw it too. On ITV2 during Love Island right?

It got me excited!

I was in the other room and heard the tune playing, bolted to the tv! :joker:

[LaLaLand]

Soundtrack has been revealed! It’s huge!!!

1. Treat Her Right – Roy Head & The Traits
2. Ramblin’ Gamblin’ Man – The Bob Seger System
Boss Radio feat. Humble Harve:
3. Hush – Deep Purple
4. Mug Root Beer Advertisement
5. Hector – The Village Callers
6. Son of a Lovin’ Man – Buchanan Brothers
7. Paxton Quigley’s Had the Course (from the MGM film Three in the Attic) – Chad & Jeremy
8. Tanya Tanning Butter Advertisement
9. Good Thing – Paul Revere & The Raiders
10. Hungry – Paul Revere & the Raiders
11. Choo Choo Train – The Box Tops
12. Jenny Take a Ride – Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels
13. Kentucky Woman – Deep Purple
14. The Circle Game – Buffy Sainte-Marie
Boss Radio feat. The Real Don Steele:
15. Mrs. Robinson – Simon & Garfunkel
16. Numero Uno Advertisement
17. Bring a Little Lovin’ – Los Bravos
18. Suddenly / Heaven Sent Advertisement
19. Vagabond High School Reunion
20. KHJ Los Angeles Weather Report
21. The Illustrated Man Advertisement / Ready For Action
22. Hey Little Girl – Dee Clark
23. Summer Blonde Advertisement
24. Brother Love’s Traveling Salvation Show – Neil Diamond
25. Don’t Chase Me Around (from the MGM film GAS-S-S-S) – Robert Corff
26. Mr. Sun, Mr. Moon – Paul Revere & the Raiders (feat. Mark Lindsay)
27. California Dreamin’ – Jose Feliciano
28. Dinamite Jim (English Version) – I Cantori Moderni di Alessandroni
29. You Keep Me Hangin’ On (Quentin Tarantino Edit) – Vanilla Fudge
30. Miss Lily Langtry (cue from The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean) – Maurice Jarre
31. KHJ Batman Promotion

[LaLaLand]

Kind of surprised there’s no “Straight Shooter” on here, considering it’s been heavily featured in trailers. No Mamas & Papas at all! :omgno:

[LaLaLand]

Well this is still well received, still in the high 80's (86%) on RT so not too much of a drop. Seems as though die-hard QT fans LOVE it, like want to watch it again and again, whereas some casual viewers don't really get it, I think they were expecting a Manson Family movie.

It's pretty much a buddy/hang-out movie, it's more about "the time and place" than an actual coherent plot, kind of like Dazed and Confused is. Really gives you the feel of the era.

There's clips on YouTube of this movie, including the ending (not watching), but I have seen Cliff vs. Bruce Lee and it's hilarious :laugh2:

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[LaLaLand]

Soundtrack is stellar btw :clap2:

NUFtUZykAKI

[LaLaLand]

"OUATIH gives Tarantino Best Opening ever, but can't beat The Lion King"

$40.3MILLION made opening weekend. :clap2:

TLK, as expected, smashed it at $75.5MILLION.

Link (https://movieweb.com/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-lion-king-box-office/?fbclid=IwAR0FbOVt6QAvI2sy7AAGB-P6VqnB73Ueg3yhfM9lq2L4HSnsjB9-d1BL0yA)

[Babayaro.]

The ending is insane lol. So, so violent.

[LaLaLand]

The ending is insane lol. So, so violent.

Have you seen the movie Babayaro? If you have what did you think? :hee:

[Babayaro.]

Have you seen the movie Babayaro? If you have what did you think? :hee:

Yup, I watched it on Sunday!

I did enjoy it but I feel that the actual plot sort of let it down. Don't get me wrong though, the acting (especially Pitt & DiCaprio), style and soundtrack were all amazing, but the movie itself didn't blow me away.

I think my expectations were slightly too high lol.

[LaLaLand]

The London premiere is happening NOW!

[LaLaLand]

Yup, I watched it on Sunday!

I did enjoy it but I feel that the actual plot sort of let it down. Don't get me wrong though, the acting (especially Pitt & DiCaprio), style and soundtrack were all amazing, but the movie itself didn't blow me away.

I think my expectations were slightly too high lol.

Yeah I've seen a few people saying that it doesn't really have a solid plot but as you say, the whole "world" created of 1969 Los Angeles is mindblowing.

I'm going to go in totally open-minded, I'm excited but not going to expect too much.

[LaLaLand]

Hopefully [finally] seeing this in the next fortnight.

Found a couple of new pics of The Manson Family and Dakota Fanning as Squeaky Fromme.

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https://www.mpaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/QT9_R_00226-copy-683x1024.jpg

[LaLaLand]

It’s made $100Million (it’s budget) in America alone. :clap2: :clap2:

[LaLaLand]

Out tomorrow here in the UK. Can’t believe it. Sadly I won’t be able to go see it release day but probably going weekend! Can’t wait!

[MB.]

Given the amount of promo work you've done of their behalf in this thread, they'd better bloody give you your ticket for free

[Tony Montana]

Given the amount of promo work you've done of their behalf in this thread, they'd better bloody give you your ticket for free

True.

[Tony Montana]

I’m gonna miss seeing this thread.

[LukeB]

I don't know much about this film but i heard Timothy Olyphant is in it? :amazed:

[Alf]

I’m gonna miss seeing this thread.There's still plenty of life left in this old girl yet. Everybody has still got to watch it and then give their opinions on it, which is bound to bring debate.

[LaLaLand]

I don't know much about this film but i heard Timothy Olyphant is in it? :amazed:

He is indeed, he plays the real-life actor James Stacy in his role as "Johnny Madrid" on the classic TV Western “Lancer”, a show that in this movie Leonardo Dicaprio’s character Rick appears on.

http://www.gaobei.com/upload/10001/article/2019_07/14200852_vxup9g.jpg

[LaLaLand]

Given the amount of promo work you've done of their behalf in this thread, they'd better bloody give you your ticket for free

I’m gonna miss seeing this thread.

Aww bless you both! I don’t mind paying the fiver to see this so it’s all good. I probably won’t just go the once either!

[LaLaLand]

There's still plenty of life left in this old girl yet. Everybody has still got to watch it and then give their opinions on it, which is bound to bring debate.

Hopefully! Also Awards Season could be interesting - have a feeling this movie will do well nominations-wise.

Everyone seems to be in awe of Brad Pitt in this, saying it’s his best ever showing.

[Marsh.]

I don't know much about this film but i heard Timothy Olyphant is in it? :amazed:

:rolleyes:

[LaLaLand]

But yeah if any of you watch this, do come in here and give your thoughts and that, good or bad! Would love to debate and talk about it once I've seen! :)

[Niamh.]

Going to see this tonight

[LaLaLand]

Going to see this tonight

Enjoy Niamh! Report back what you thought! :hee:

[Niamh.]

Enjoy Niamh! Report back what you thought! :hee:

Will do :love:

[Morgan.]

What can I say to my family to make them come with me lmao

I’ve heard great reviews online, but all their friends and other family have said that it’s terrible and a waste if money - which I doubt!

[Niamh.]

Go by yourself Morgan, be brave!

[Morgan.]

Go by yourself Morgan, be brave!

I would but I have no way to get the cinema and back (I can’t afford a taxi lmao) :(

[LukeB]

I would but I have no way to get the cinema and back (I can’t afford a taxi lmao) :(

About bus or train?

[LaLaLand]

What can I say to my family to make them come with me lmao

I’ve heard great reviews online, but all their friends and other family have said that it’s terrible and a waste if money - which I doubt!

Don’t go into this expecting a really compelling, gripping story (although it kinda is) - it’s literally three days in the life of Rick, Cliff and Sharon Tate. Just go in with that mindset and you’ll love it. It’s essentially a hang-out movie, Pulp Fiction 1969 if you like but a big emphasis on the Hollywood industry, the culture and setting of 1969 Los Angeles and the Manson Family as a sinister, looming backdrop to the plot. Like any Tarantino movie, if you don’t “get it”, you miss out.

The third day/act of the movie is freaking insane, I sadly read spoilers through sheer curiosity :joker:

[Ramsay]

Seeing this Saturday, very excited!

[LaLaLand]

Seeing this Saturday, very excited!

Awesome Ramsay, enjoy!

I’m going Monday/Tuesday. :cheer2:

[MB.]

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Well the joke's on me, because I just saw this and quite liked it!

It didn't drag as I thought a 2hr30m+ Tarantino film might (I didn't even make it through The Hateful Eight, which attests to how short my attention span can be). I'd read a spoiler about the ending, or at least I thought I had - I knew Sharon Tate didn't die, but for some reason I thought that the actor and the stuntman were killed in her place. imho that ending would have been more thematically appropriate (old Hollywood chivalry and heroism dying out and being replaced by the senseless violence of Vietnam and the 70s, etc etc), and it was slightly odd to have a mostly-happy, mostly-peaceful ending to a Tarantino film.

With the ending considered, I still stand by my initial fears that the film would be more about a glamourised fantasy of the 60s than anything actually about Sharon Tate, and I don't see why her story was rewritten and depicted peripherally through a film about Leonardo DiCaprio having a midlife crisis/Brad Pitt overfeeding his dog. But in spite of that, as a fairly fluffy (by Tarantino's standards) film about 60s Hollywood, I can't say I didn't enjoy it. And anyone who says the best character was anyone other than Janet (aka the "WHAT THE **** DID YOU DO TO MY CAR?" lady) is a dirty rotten liar.

I still have no idea who Luke Perry played despite having Googled and Wikipedia'd it, mind you :laugh:

[LaLaLand]

Well the joke's on me, because I just saw this and quite liked it!

It didn't drag as I thought a 2hr30m+ Tarantino film might (I didn't even make it through The Hateful Eight, which attests to how short my attention span can be). I'd read a spoiler about the ending, or at least I thought I had - I knew Sharon Tate didn't die, but for some reason I thought that the actor and the stuntman were killed in her place. imho that ending would have been more thematically appropriate (old Hollywood chivalry and heroism dying out and being replaced by the senseless violence of Vietnam and the 70s, etc etc), and it was slightly odd to have a mostly-happy, mostly-peaceful ending to a Tarantino film.

With the ending considered, I still stand by my initial fears that the film would be more about a glamourised fantasy of the 60s than anything actually about Sharon Tate, and I don't see why her story was rewritten and depicted peripherally through a film about Leonardo DiCaprio having a midlife crisis/Brad Pitt overfeeding his dog. But in spite of that, as a fairly fluffy (by Tarantino's standards) film about 60s Hollywood, I can't say I didn't enjoy it. And anyone who says the best character was anyone other than Janet (aka the "WHAT THE **** DID YOU DO TO MY CAR?" lady) is a dirty rotten liar.

I still have no idea who Luke Perry played despite having Googled and Wikipedia'd it, mind you :laugh:

I’m glad it exceeded your initially very low expectations MB!

I believe the reasoning for his inclusion of Sharon as a secondary character in this is because there’s a theme running through the movie of “an end of an era” and eventual loss of innocence that was the 60’s hippy movement. Sharon and co’s murders basically personified these themes in real life. That weekend, the 60’s died a death, for want of a better word. He also wanted to celebrate her life seeing as she’s become sadly more famous for her brutal death, and in most cases less famous than her murderers. She was shaping up to be the next big thing at the time. Very sad.

I’ve seen the Janet clip too so I know exactly what you’re referring to, hilarious! :joker:

Great review! :clap2:

[Morgan.]

So I told my dad I’m paying and he agreed to take me ... at some point. Whenever that may be lmao

[LaLaLand]

So I told my dad I’m paying and he agreed to take me ... at some point. Whenever that may be lmao

Nice work Morgan!

[LaLaLand]

For anyone debating whether to see this or not or wondering what exactly all the fuss is about, the first post in the thread should hopefully help!

[Tony Montana]

Gonna watch this on Friday or Saturday. So excited!

[Niamh.]

Actually going tomorrow night instead of tonight

[LaLaLand]

Gonna watch this on Friday or Saturday. So excited!

Actually going tomorrow night instead of tonight

Awesome, have fun both!

I've spent so long talking about this movie in future tense that it's very strange now that it's just... "out". :joker:

[Jordan.]

Got tickets booked for sunday, hope it's worth the runtime :worry:

[Niamh.]

Went Last night

I really enjoyed it, I do love Tarantino's latest trend of giving alternative more hollywood endings to historical events. Not as good as Inglorious Bastards or Django I thought but still very good. Leonardo Dicaprio is such a fantastic actor, in a way I'm disappointed that the Oscar he won wasn't even one of his best imo, this would be right up there for me. Brad Pitt was really good too, I loved his character and his scene with Bruce Lee was probably the best of the film for me. I also really liked Leo's scenes with the little girl.

Glad Sharon got a nice ending this time, such an awful story in r/l :(

[LaLaLand]

Got tickets booked for sunday, hope it's worth the runtime :worry:

I really hope you enjoy it mate! Let us know what you thought after.

Went Last night

I really enjoyed it, I do love Tarantino's latest trend of giving alternative more hollywood endings to historical events. Not as good as Inglorious Bastards or Django I thought but still very good. Leonardo Dicaprio is such a fantastic actor, in a way I'm disappointed that the Oscar he won wasn't even one of his best imo, this would be right up there for me. Brad Pitt was really good too, I loved his character and his scene with Bruce Lee was probably the best of the film for me. I also really liked Leo's scenes with the little girl.

Glad Sharon got a nice ending this time, such an awful story in r/l :(

Awesome Niamh! Great review. So glad you enjoyed it. I can’t wait to see now, there’s so much buzz about this!

[LaLaLand]

Make sure you look out for these Easter Eggs, there's a reference to every single previous Tarantino movie in OUATIH.

1. Reservoir Dogs - The same Cadillac Michael Madsen drives in Reservoir Dogs is also Rick Dalton's car.

2. Pulp Fiction - As Tarantino said himself the script is the closest he's ever done to Pulp Fiction, a split/connecting story that takes place over three days within Los Angeles.

3. Jackie Brown - The tiles on the wall in the airport are exactly like they are in the opening of Jackie Brown.

4. Kill Bill 1 & 2 - The Bruce Lee scene is an obvious connection, with the pans and whooshes and OTT foley. Also, the little girl who played BB, Beatrix Kiddo and Bill's daughter, is in the movie all grown up, she sells Brad an acid-dipped cigarette.

5. Death Proof - Kurt Russel plays a stuntman, also Zoe Bell plays his wife. It's rumoured they are Stuntman Mike's parents.

6. Inglorious Basterds - ANYBODY ORDER FRIED SAUERKRAUT!? scene obviously and elsewhere Cliff is mentioned as a war hero like his character in IB, Lt. Aldo Raine. Also, The last Italian movie Dalton was in was directed by “Antonio Margheriti” who is a real director but also Donny Donowitz’s fake name when they went undercover in the theatre.

7. Django: Unchained - The set of "Bounty Law", and where Rick & Cliff are being interviewed at, is the same set used in Django.

8. The Hateful Eight - Michael Madsen dresses in the almost exact outfit as his character Joe Gage in The Hateful Eight.

[LaLaLand]

Earlier this year, fans of acclaimed director Quentin Tarantino were treated to quite the surprise when a special extended edition of The Hateful Eight arrived on Netflix. This near four hour cut of the film had been chopped into four separate chapters and released on the streaming service as a miniseries, giving audiences more of the film to see while also offering a totally different viewing experience. Well, it looks like Tarantino is preparing to do the exact same thing with his newest film, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

According to Kyle Buchanan of The New York Times, Tarantino is planning to add in many of the deleted scenes from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and cut the film into an episodic version for Netflix. He claims that several actors who had their scenes removed from the final cut in order to preserve time were told by Tarantino that he would put them back in on the Netflix edition.

"I keep hearing Tarantino told the Once Upon a Time in Hollywood actors that he'll put their deleted scenes back when he recuts the film into episodes for Netflix," Buchanan wrote in the tweet, "akin to what he recently did with Hateful Eight."

There's no telling exactly which actors Buchanan is referring to, but there are several notable names that had their parts cut in post-production. Both James Marsden and Tim Roth were a part of the expansive, all-star cast, but neither ended up in the actual movie. Both were thanked in the credits of Once Upon a Time.

To add even more credibility to Buchanan's report, one of the actors from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood actually mentioned the four hour Netflix cut on the record.

“There is talk about there being a 4-hour Netflix version, as well, because there were a lot of scenes he shot that couldn’t make it into the film because there just simply wasn’t room," Nichloas Hammond said during his appearance on The Mutuals Interviews podcast.

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[Jordan.]

Saw it and really enjoyed it. Leo was brilliant, some of his scenes were hilarious (his meltdown lol) liked Brad too and found the Bruce Lee scene funny... even tho it's been a bit controversial. I didn't do much research on the film before seeing it so I was kind of confused by the inclusion of Sharon and the Manson family

For some reason I assumed that part of the story was going to be factual so spent the whole film waiting for the murders to happen and wondering how it had anything to do with the main plot but then that twist ending happened and it suddenly made sense. Also made me realise why it had an 18 rating :skull:

[LaLaLand]

I’m going tomorrow afternoon to see with with my mate! Cannot bloody wait!

[LaLaLand]

Saw it and really enjoyed it. Leo was brilliant, some of his scenes were hilarious (his meltdown lol) liked Brad too and found the Bruce Lee scene funny... even tho it's been a bit controversial. I didn't do much research on the film before seeing it so I was kind of confused by the inclusion of Sharon and the Manson family

For some reason I assumed that part of the story was going to be factual so spent the whole film waiting for the murders to happen and wondering how it had anything to do with the main plot but then that twist ending happened and it suddenly made sense. Also made me realise why it had an 18 rating :skull:

So glad you enjoyed mate! So excited for my viewing tomorrow!

Yeah the Bruce Lee scene is rubbing people up the wrong way BUT it’s in Cliff’s memory/mind isn’t it, it’s fantasy. As is the whole movie. People need to chill! :hehe:

[Tony Montana]

I'm finally watching this tonight. :cheer2:

[LaLaLand]

I'm finally watching this tonight. :cheer2:

Nice one mate really hope you enjoy! You’ve been a fellow “lifer” of this thread with me! Let us know what you thought after!

[Tony Montana]

Nice one mate really hope you enjoy! You’ve been a fellow “lifer” of this thread with me! Let us know what you thought after!

Will do. :thumbs:

And my pleasure. :love:

[LaLaLand]

Well on course to hit $200 MILLION by weekend. :clap2:

[LaLaLand]

Going to see this in an hour or so, cannot wait! :fc:

[Strictly Jake]

So is Charles manson even in this film? Because its that that puts me off wanting to see it as he was into Satan worship and stuff and I won't watch things like that. The rest of the film looks good

[MB.]

So is Charles manson even in this film? Because its that that puts me off wanting to see it as he was into Satan worship and stuff and I won't watch things like that. The rest of the film looks good

I'm sure the guy playing him had a lovely day on set, put it that way

[Tony Montana]

So I finally watched this last night, and I've gotta say this is a strong contender for the best film of the year so far. I was gonna review this last night, but I was too tired after the film and slept when I came home. (I had watched it late)

Dicaprio and Pitt were both phenomenal in their roles. This is possibly Pitt's best performance in his entire career. The film focused more on their characters than Sharon Tate. Margot was good, despite her limited screentime. She was a side character if anything. The person who 'stole the show' for me was the little actress girl called Trudi, Rick's co-star. It amazes me that she was able to keep up with Dicaprio. She's going places that's for sure. Bruce Dern and Timothy Olyphant were also great in their roles. Dakota Fanning was also good, really creepy and sinister.

The action was great, especially towards the end. That was classic Tarantino bloody over the top violence we all know and love. My favourite scene in the whole film was definitely when Cliff was at the Spahn Ranch with all those hippies, and he demanded to see George. It felt like something out of a horror scene for me. The Bruce Lee scene was also brilliant and hilarious. That didn't disappoint

I was also surprised at Michael Madsen's cameo at the beginning. I thought his scene was cut from the final film?

Overall, this film is easily a 10/10 masterpiece for me and possibly Tarantino's greatest film. I'm watching it again on Friday.

[Tony Montana]

So is Charles manson even in this film? Because its that that puts me off wanting to see it as he was into Satan worship and stuff and I won't watch things like that. The rest of the film looks good

He was barely in the movie at all - he just had about a minute of screen time. Tarantino focused on The Family instead.

[LaLaLand]

Literally, top 3 Tarantino for me even after just one viewing. I absolutely loved it, had a smile on my face from start to end.

Will do a proper review later but yeah, WOW! Want to see it again!

[LaLaLand]

So is Charles manson even in this film? Because its that that puts me off wanting to see it as he was into Satan worship and stuff and I won't watch things like that. The rest of the film looks good

Yeah he’s literally in one scene for about 3 minutes and has about 3 lines.

[Tony Montana]

Literally, top 3 Tarantino for me even after just one viewing. I absolutely loved it, had a smile on my face from start to end.

Will do a proper review later but yeah, WOW! Want to see it again!


Glad you enjoyed it buddy. I know how long you were waiting for this and I would've hated for you to have been disappointed.

It's a top 3 Tarantino for me too.

[Tony Montana]

It's definitely gonna be nominated (and should win) a lot of Oscars.

My predictions:

1. Best Picture
2. Best Director
3. Best Actor (I honestly think both Dicaprio and Pitt will be nominated in this category)
4. Best Supporting Actress for Margot Robbie
5. Best Original Screenplay
6. Best Costume
7. Best Sound Mixing

[LaLaLand]

If anything, I’d be more upset if Brad doesn’t get at least a nomination (and then hopefully win) for this. I think this is my favourite role I’ve ever seen him in honestly! Character suited him perfectly.

[LaLaLand]

The soundtrack is just phenomenal, I haven’t seen that kind of “wall of sound” in a movie where there’s constant music since like Dazed &Confused or American Grafitti. The radio station/music really is a character in the movie, it’s always there.

Need to order it! So many tunes stuck in my head.

[LaLaLand]

Well, where do I begin?

From the moment the movie began I started beaming, was just like that instant "vibe" you got from the likes of Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown and I still can't stop thinking about it. Tarantino, I feel, is at his best and has the most fun working with a more modern setting like this as oppose to some of his Western work and Inglorious (as much as I love that movie).

The main thing for me is that you really did get sucked in to this whole world of 1969 Los Angeles. It's probably the best/most accurate "era piece" I've seen in a long, long time. The cars, the streets, fashion, UGH. It's as if the little insignificant details within the scenes, like the appliances Rick uses, the beer mugs he drinks out of, the tins in Cliff's cupboards where he keeps Brandy's food... All of this is vital to your "immersive" experience. I can honestly say I didn't want the movie to end and I could just watch Rick/Cliff and Sharon drive around the city for hours on end.

There were times when I felt like certain scenes were maybe a tad too short, not much, but I felt like the Charles Manson scene could have been expanded a bit (which was originally the plan it seems judging from a new TV spot trailer online where he visits the Cielo Drive guest house and so on), Sharon in the bookstore being another. BUT I don't think that hinders the progression at all. In contrast to that, I also felt there were scenes that went on a tad too long, not that I minded, just a feeling!

I don't feel like Sharon was insignificant at all. Okay she doesn't say all that much but I felt that her inclusion was just right and did the job - showcasing her as a lovely, beautiful young lady enjoying the Hollywood life and full of wide-eyed optimism at what should have been a long, successful career. Her presence was more than enough to get the message over and link the plots together. She was like a cool breeze throughout the movie, adding to the melancholic vibe of the film whilst still projecting glamour and personifying this burgeoning "New Hollywood".

How scarily sinister was Dakota Fanning!? Hard to believe it was her, loved her interaction with Cliff. That whole Spahn Ranch segment was straight-up horror flick. How it all just instantly turned sinister when Cliff mentioned he knew George...

I surprisingly loved the whole mini-episode of Lancer in the middle, very, very entertaining and Rick's mess-up and trailer outburst were golden (maybe Oscar-worthy). I was laughing like mad at when he forgot his last line and you could hear the director or whoever screaming "JUST SAY THE ****ING LINE!!" :joker: Timothy Olyphant played his role well, did anyone notice the little Easter Egg of him with the motorbike (Google the man he played and all will be revealed)? Luke Perry's (RIP) short stint was great and Julia Butters (Trudi) was incredible.

Have to give a shout-out to Damien Lewis, I was sceptical about his look as Steve McQueen on the billboards but he was the spit of him! Had the voice and mannerisms down to a T. Short cameo yes, but still effective.

The ending was all I could have wished and more. Classic Tarantino violence but this time particularly the receivers were due their comeuppance which made it all the more enjoyable. Baby killer Susan Atkins getting burnt to a crisp with a flamethrower, sounds fair. :clap2:

My mind's racing and I've missed other bits that stood out I know but just know that I LOVED this movie. I'll sleep on it and remember stuff again tomorrow. But if Brad doesn't get some big award noms for this I'll be gutted, Cliff was just such a compelling character.

If it's true the 4 hour extended cut of this is coming to Netflix then bring it on, because I could "live" in this whole world for hours on end and would love to see all of the extra bits and longer scenes.

Excellent!

Also just twigged that this thread has 20 pages!? Jeez :skull:

[Niamh.]

I liked Brad in it alot but his performance imo wasn't award worthy, Leo's definitely was, I think it was more obvious that Brads wasn't when you have him standing with Leo through the movie

[Tony Montana]

I liked Brad in it alot but his performance imo wasn't award worthy, Leo's definitely was, I think it was more obvious that Brads wasn't when you have him standing with Leo through the movie

They both did an equally phenomenal job tbh. I've never thought much of Pitt's acting skills in the past. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good actor, but he hasn't had a performance that's wowed me until this film. He completely disappears into his role.

They both should be nominated for Best Actor imo.

[Niamh.]

They both did an equally phenomenal job tbh. I've never thought much of Pitt's acting skills in the past. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good actor, but he hasn't had a performance that's wowed me until this film. He completely disappears into his role.

They both should be nominated for Best Actor imo.

Nah, like I said I like Brad and I liked how he played the part but it wasn't anything phenomenal imo

[Tony Montana]

Nah, like I said I like Brad and I liked how he played the part but it wasn't anything phenomenal imo

Fair enough. :hee:

[MTVN]

Just seen this and loved it. I actually had no idea about any of the background so didn't know anything about Sharon Tate or the Manson family (had just heard the names) so reading up on everything puts a different and a bit more tragic perspective on it

[LaLaLand]

Just seen this and loved it. I actually had no idea about any of the background so didn't know anything about Sharon Tate or the Manson family (had just heard the names) so reading up on everything puts a different and a bit more tragic perspective on it

Really glad you loved it MTVN! Yeah I thought this is what some would do if they just went in totally oblivious. I'm sure many, many people of all ages have heard of Charles Manson but not necessarily what he did/his followers did so can imagine the "shock" many would get when they see what happened to Sharon Tate because of him/his Family.

I really need to catch this again before it leaves the cinema.

I ALSO would really love to get my hands on one of the HUGE like 3ftx4ft posters up in the displays at my local Odeon for this movie, does anyone know how/if I can go about getting one once the film has finished showing?

[Niamh.]

Really glad you loved it MTVN! Yeah I thought this is what some would do if they just went in totally oblivious. I'm sure many, many people of all ages have heard of Charles Manson but not necessarily what he did/his followers did so can imagine the "shock" many would get when they see what happened to Sharon Tate because of him/his Family.

I really need to catch this again before it leaves the cinema.

I ALSO would really love to get my hands on one of the HUGE like 3ftx4ft posters up in the displays at my local Odeon for this movie, does anyone know how/if I can go about getting one once the film has finished showing?In my cinema they put posters they're finished with in a box and people can take them. You should just ask at the cinema though, a poster from this film will probably be in demand

[LaLaLand]

In my cinema they put posters they're finished with in a box and people can take them. You should just ask at the cinema though, a poster from this film will probably be in demand

Ah really, I'll have to just go there and ask then. Will try and pop next week see if they'll keep one for me or something. Thanks Niamh.