6 people walk out on Piers and Jim Davidson Life Stories

[Crimson Dynamo]

Cant wait for this one, should be a cracker

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The comedian sparked "outrage" during filming on the ITV series, causing six audience members to leave
Jim was discussing his old stage act Chalky, a West Indian character, when he made the comments
In 2014, he was criticised by anti-racism campaigners after he described his old stand-up routines as 'cartoon racism'
Jim was previously axed from Hell's Kitchen in 2007 after making homophobic comments in which he branded gay men 'shirtlifters'


According to the Daily Star, the 64-year-old's appearance on the ITV series caused members of the audience to walk out mid interview as he discussed his stage act from yesteryear, a West Indian character called Chalky.

Discussing Jim's infamous character, presenter Piers commented that his act would be deemed racist if performed today.

However the remark did little to deter the comedian from discussing the character which reportedly caused six members of the audience to stand up and leave the studio.

He said: 'Have you noticed black guys now don't like that? West Indian. I don't know where that accent comes from.

That. I find funny. The way other people talk. I don't know what black people think. I have not met them all yet.

Adding: 'When I did that Chalky stuff it was about an accent. The only reason he was black was because I could do the accent.'

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5481737/Jim-Davidsons-racist-comments-causes-walkout.html

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[Nicky91]

i literally can't stand vile piers morgan :mad:

[Crimson Dynamo]

i literally can't stand vile piers morgan :mad:

:nono: He is a much loved British presenter - have some respect

[Matthew.]

i literally can't stand vile piers morgan :mad:

i think you’re missing the point

[bots]

audience members can be so rude

[jet]

I loathe Jim Davidson, always have.

[Morgan.]

I'd never have walked in in the first place with those pricks sharing a stage.

[Crimson Dynamo]

audience members can be so rude

Probably started to melt?

[BBUK-Fan]

They should've known what they were in for so the audience are dumb

[Twosugars]

I loathe Jim Davidson, always have.

me too

[Crimson Dynamo]

CBB legend

[Kizzy]

80s reject, he needs to be put in a museum with the rest of the relics, horrible unfunny little man. Why he still gets airtime is beyond me.

[Withano]

He can be offensive if he wants, and people can leave if they want :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

He can be offensive if he wants, and people can leave if they want :shrug:

did you get your ticket money back?

[Withano]

did you get your ticket money back?

I wouldnt go anywhere near Piers. Not much of an opinion on Jim.

[Niamh.]

Two pigs

[LaLaLand]

Well they were obviously going to bring up Chalky, one of his most known acts.

Idiot audience members.

[Beso]

80s reject, he needs to be put in a museum with the rest of the relics, horrible unfunny little man. Why he still gets airtime is beyond me.

Pisses me off that it usually ends up with him being dragged over the coals..considering his work he does for our forces.

Pity news dont do happy stories anymore...cause that side of jim is far more newsworthy.

[GiRTh]

Two pigs2

[user104658]

Can't stand him. Though the be fair, I have more of a problem with the fact that he's an angry, violent alcoholic than I do with his "Oh so funny" casual racism.

[MTVN]

Can't stand him. Though the be fair, I have more of a problem with the fact that he's an angry, violent alcoholic than I do with his "Oh so funny" casual racism.

Hadn't he kicked the booze by the time he appeared on CBB

[Jordan.]

A shockingly low statistic

[Gstar]

Did they talk about CBB

[user104658]

Hadn't he kicked the booze by the time he appeared on CBBAllegedly, though he didn't really look like it. Either way, that only really matters if you believe that being drunk / having an alcohol problem is an excuse for being abusive and slapping people around... Which I personally don't. It's a cop-out. If someone is capable of those actions with a drink in them, then they are simply capable of them full stop.

[arista]

Did they talk about CBB


I would think so.
Its on tonight ITV1HD 9:50PM

[Kazanne]

Pisses me off that it usually ends up with him being dragged over the coals..considering his work he does for our forces.

Pity news dont do happy stories anymore...cause that side of jim is far more newsworthy.

Too right Parmy lets overlook all the good he has done because it suits to pull someone apart we really know nothing about and of course some people are practically perfect.:wavey:

[Tom4784]

Vile pair.

did you get your ticket money back?

These things are usually free.

[Gstar]

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CBB’s best ever winner staying woke :clap1:

[user104658]

Too right Parmy lets overlook all the good he has done because it suits to pull someone apart we really know nothing about and of course some people are practically perfect.:wavey:In my opinion there's a pretty huge gap between "perfect" and "wife beating" but each to their own I guess.

[Niamh.]

[emoji23]

[Marsh.]

Too right Parmy lets overlook all the good he has done because it suits to pull someone apart we really know nothing about and of course some people are practically perfect.:wavey:

Yes, you need to be practically perfect to point out Davidson's flaws. Good one Kaz.

[MTVN]

Starting now :wavey:

[MTVN]

Interesting that Big Jim is good pals with Prince Charles who is a big fan

[Marsh.]

Too right Parmy lets overlook all the good he has done because it suits to pull someone apart we really know nothing about and of course some people are practically perfect.:wavey:

Being a known abusive **** is "when it suits".

Kaz to his wife: "Only got a bruise when it suits loov!!! :oh:"

[Cal.]

They only talked about CBB when they mentioned when he was arrested by Yewtree

[Cherie]

Not a word about CBB

[DemolitionRed]

:nono: He is a much loved British presenter - have some respect

The more I read your posts, the more I know you're a wind up merchant.

[Cherie]

The more I read your posts, the more I know you're a wind up merchant.

I feel the same about you!

[Kizzy]

Why have him on... Surely there are other washed up has been 'comedians' from the 80s That are 100 times more interesting?

Hello jim,
Remember when you did that weird voice that made people feel uncomfortable?
Remember when you got drunk and beat your wife?
Roll titles.

[Cherie]

Why have him on... Surely there are other washed up has been 'comedians' from the 80s That are 100 times more interesting?

Hello jim,
Remember when you did that weird voice that made people feel uncomfortable?
Remember when you got drunk and beat your wife?
Roll titles.

so you watched it...job done

[Alf]

The more I read your posts, the more I know you're a wind up merchant.And he'd have got away with it, if it wasn't for you meddling kids.

[Kizzy]

The more I read your posts, the more I know you're a wind up merchant.

I find 'ok ' a more than adequate response to most things :laugh:

[user104658]

Ban them all vicky!

[Kizzy]

so you watched it...job done

Don't be daft :joke: pretty obvious though.... Did they chat about his homophobic comments the Brian Dowling?

[Cherie]

Ban them all vicky!

TS can be banned first for really really not contributing

[Cherie]

Don't be daft :joke: pretty obvious though.... Did they chat about his homophobic comments the Brian Dowling?

no idea I didn't watch

[Marsh.]

Ban them all vicky!

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[Kizzy]

Ban them all vicky!



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[MTVN]

They did talk about his Hell's Kitchen comments and he said how he regretted it and wouldn't use that language again

[Marsh.]

Hell's Kitchen was 10 years ago. He was still a big fat arsehole in CBB.

[MTVN]

Hell's Kitchen was 10 years ago. He was still a big fat arsehole in CBB.

He was a winner

[Cherie]

Did they show people walking out?

[Cherie]

He was a winner

:smug:

[Marsh.]

He was a winner

So was Helen Wood. Did that make her less of a twat? No.

Big Brother's the only show on TV that rewards arsehole behaviour.

[Ant.]

He was a winner

Surprisingly, those two things aren't mutually exclsuive

[MTVN]

Did they show people walking out?

Nope, just Piers giggling away at the comments that apparently made people walk out. You just heard the audience laughing in the background as well, no obvious disruption

[Marsh.]

:smug:

He beat Lee Ryan and one of the Nolan's. Achievement. :hehe:

[Marsh.]

Nope, just Piers giggling away at the comments that apparently made people walk out. You just heard the audience laughing in the background as well, no obvious disruption

Maybe they forgot to pick the kids up, or needed the loo?

[MTVN]

I don't actually remember Jim doing anything that bad in CBB though? I thought his popularity was driven by the fact that people expected a bigoted, intolerant asshole and instead found quite a calm, personable and entertaining character.

I don't remember that much from that series though tbf

[Marsh.]

I don't remember much in the way of bigotry. But he was a vile old man.

[MTVN]

Dappy appeared very briefly described as a 'friend' of Jim lol

[Northern Monkey]

Maybe these 6 people all ate at the same curry house before they went in

All had the squits at the same time.

[Northern Monkey]

I don't actually remember Jim doing anything that bad in CBB though? I thought his popularity was driven by the fact that people expected a bigoted, intolerant asshole and instead found quite a calm, personable and entertaining character.

I don't remember that much from that series though tbf

Ask her about Frank Carsons dressing room

[Mystic Mock]

i literally can't stand vile piers morgan :mad:

Not many people can tbf.

[Mystic Mock]

Can't stand him. Though the be fair, I have more of a problem with the fact that he's an angry, violent alcoholic than I do with his "Oh so funny" casual racism.

Same here tbh.

To go off-topic for a second (but still relevant to your post) I don't get how Chris Fountain can't get a big acting gig anymore after his Rap about rape, yet Jim Davidson can get stints on Reality Shows and Chat Shows despite the fact that he was a violent alcoholic to his Wife? To me the latter is far worse than the former.

[Kazanne]

Yes, you need to be practically perfect to point out Davidson's flaws. Good one Kaz.

We all have flaws,well some of us can admit to having them,there is no excuse for him hitting anyone but at the same token there is no excuse for her to hit him,but is that ok because she is a woman ? they had a volatile relationship, not helped by his drink, but lets get both sides here.

[Babayaro.]

This was good

[Withano]

We all have flaws,well some of us can admit to having them,there is no excuse for him hitting anyone but at the same token there is no excuse for her to hit him,but is that ok because she is a woman ? they had a volatile relationship, not helped by his drink, but lets get both sides here.

I'm confused what you're preaching?

"Dont pull apart Jim cos nobody is prefect themselves, also, here's some negative things about his wife."

[Withano]

I wasnt actually aware of his domestic violence history, was that before or after cbb?

[Cal.]

I really liked this lmao.

[user104658]

I wasnt actually aware of his domestic violence history, was that before or after cbb?Before. I remember taking major issue with how several people thought he was this "great guy" on CBB when in my opinion he should never have been allowed on in the first place. The argument was that he's somehow now "a changed man" and it was "all the drink", the latter of which is a BS excuse used by far too many people who get physically abusive while drunk. "It's not me! It's the alcohol!!". No sir, it IS you, you're just worse at controlling your violence when drunk. He isn't changed at all either, he still quite blatantly has alcohol issues and he was passive-aggressive throughout the show and quite often looked like a balloon ready to pop... I very much doubt he would have remained so "calm" if there weren't dozens of cameras pointed at him.

[Kazanne]

Before. I remember taking major issue with how several people thought he was this "great guy" on CBB when in my opinion he should never have been allowed on in the first place. The argument was that he's somehow now "a changed man" and it was "all the drink", the latter of which is a BS excuse used by far too many people who get physically abusive while drunk. "It's not me! It's the alcohol!!". No sir, it IS you, you're just worse at controlling your violence when drunk. He isn't changed at all either, he still quite blatantly has alcohol issues and he was passive-aggressive throughout the show and quite often looked like a balloon ready to pop... I very much doubt he would have remained so "calm" if there weren't dozens of cameras pointed at him.

Well of course you know him so much better than anyone else:hehe:

[Jake.]

Two pigs

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[Jake.]

We all have flaws,well some of us can admit to having them,there is no excuse for him hitting anyone but at the same token there is no excuse for her to hit him,but is that ok because she is a woman ? they had a volatile relationship, not helped by his drink, but lets get both sides here.

Nobody said it was ok for her to hit him? It doesn’t suddenly make him an “ok” person or defend his actions. Guy’s a tosser.

[MTVN]

Ask her about Frank Carsons dressing room

:joker:

[Withano]

Before. I remember taking major issue with how several people thought he was this "great guy" on CBB when in my opinion he should never have been allowed on in the first place. The argument was that he's somehow now "a changed man" and it was "all the drink", the latter of which is a BS excuse used by far too many people who get physically abusive while drunk. "It's not me! It's the alcohol!!". No sir, it IS you, you're just worse at controlling your violence when drunk. He isn't changed at all either, he still quite blatantly has alcohol issues and he was passive-aggressive throughout the show and quite often looked like a balloon ready to pop... I very much doubt he would have remained so "calm" if there weren't dozens of cameras pointed at him.

I didn't know his personal life or career history, and thought he was one of the better ones in the house. I really needed him to win when it was down to him vs Dappy. With this new info though, thats like the worst final 2 ever!

[Jake.]

Yes, you need to be practically perfect to point out Davidson's flaws. Good one Kaz.

:joker:

[Marsh.]

We all have flaws,well some of us can admit to having them,there is no excuse for him hitting anyone but at the same token there is no excuse for her to hit him,but is that ok because she is a woman ? they had a volatile relationship, not helped by his drink, but lets get both sides here.
"We all have flaws"

:joker:

We all have arseholes too but that's not relevant either.

[user104658]

Well of course you know him so much better than anyone else:hehe:I know everything I need to know about him to make my own personal judgement of him. You're free to think what you want of him, also, but I'm not sure exactly what makes you feel that you're qualified to tell me that I'm "wrong" in my own opinion of an individual?

[Underscore]

I would too.

[arista]

Good final episode
He said sorry for the Shirt lifting comment, no longer say it etc.
he did on Hells kitchen.
Against former winner of big brother Brian


Jim on celebrity radio talking about Hells Kitchen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahnWbCATgCE

[smudgie]

This Tory supporter can't stand Jim Davidson.
Obnoxious twat is how I think of him.:shrug:

[Marsh.]

This Tory supporter can't stand Jim Davidson.
Obnoxious twat is how I think of him.:shrug:
Smudgie knows.

[kirklancaster]

The guy is one very funny person and this program was highly enjoyable.

Although using violence against a woman can NEVER be condoned, it does seem that Alison Holloway's graphic accounts of the violence he perpetrated against her in their 18 months long marriage is an isolated period in his life because no other wives or any of the hundreds of women he has had 'relationships' with have complained of anything similar - as far as I am aware.

Davidson insists that Alison was also violent during this marriage, and other possible mitigation for this violent period is that he was drug and alcohol-addled at that time.

The guy seemed honest and forthright about his past mistakes and SHOULD be given credit for 'turning his life around' and beating his alcohol and drug problems - just as ANYONE who has done the same should.

As for him being 'Racist' AND 'Homophobic', I find it strange that he numbers both black AND Gay people among his friends - a lot of them life-long friends.

Honest, fair and unbiased analysis of his controversial 'Chalkie' comedy routine can ONLY show that it is a warm impersonation carried out with obvious affection and bears no trace of malicious REAL racism.

His West Indian voice sketches are no different from Russ Abbot's Scotsman impressions with that exaggerated Glaswegian accent - "See you, Jimmy".

As for the derogatory term, ' Shirt-Lifter', Davidson ADMITTED that is was wrong, was obviously remorseful and said that he had never used the term again.

He also belongs to a generation when such terms were (wrongfully) commonplace, as were terms like 'Poofter' and 'Nancy-Boy'.

This does not EXCUSE his remark to Brian Dowling nor the offence which it caused, but - again - it appears to have been one isolated incident in a long life, and after all, he has NOT eaten live babies or murdered a nun.

His children, friends, current wife and the other of his ex-wives, ALL paint a very different picture of Jim Davidson to that portrayed by his detractors.

According to them, he is warm, loving, kind, generous, charitable, and a caring, as well as a good husband and terrific father.

Then there is the considerable amount of time and money which he has always donated to our Armed Forces - free concerts, forming his own Charity etc.

No, Jim Davidson is no 'Racist', No 'Homophobe' and NO 'Monster'.

Instead, he is, like the REST of us, merely a FLAWED human being, and if I - for one - want to see a 'Plaster Saint', I will go to church.

Of course, it is a person's right to 'like' someone' or 'dislike' them so I don't expect everyone to agree with me, it is just my rightful opinion on a forum of which I am a member.

[Kazanne]

The guy is one very funny person and this program was highly enjoyable.

Although using violence against a woman can NEVER be condoned, it does seem that Alison Holloway's graphic accounts of the violence he perpetrated against her in their 18 months long marriage is an isolated period in his life because no other wives or any of the hundreds of women he has had 'relationships' with have complained of anything similar - as far as I am aware.

Davidson insists that Alison was also violent during this marriage, and other possible mitigation for this violent period is that he was drug and alcohol-addled at that time.

The guy seemed honest and forthright about his past mistakes and SHOULD be given credit for 'turning his life around' and beating his alcohol and drug problems - just as ANYONE who has done the same should.

As for him being 'Racist' AND 'Homophobic', I find it strange that he numbers both black AND Gay people among his friends - a lot of them life-long friends.

Honest, fair and unbiased analysis of his controversial 'Chalkie' comedy routine can ONLY show that it is a warm impersonation carried out with obvious affection and bears no trace of malicious REAL racism.

His West Indian voice sketches are no different from Russ Abbot's Scotsman impressions with that exaggerated Glaswegian accent - "See you, Jimmy".

As for the derogatory term, ' Shirt-Lifter', Davidson ADMITTED that is was wrong, was obviously remorseful and said that he had never used the term again.

He also belongs to a generation when such terms were (wrongfully) commonplace, as were terms like 'Poofter' and 'Nancy-Boy'.

This does not EXCUSE his remark to Brian Dowling nor the offence which it caused, but - again - it appears to have been one isolated incident in a long life, and after all, he has NOT eaten live babies or murdered a nun.

His children, friends, current wife and the other of his ex-wives, ALL paint a very different picture of Jim Davidson to that portrayed by his detractors.

According to them, he is warm, loving, kind, generous, charitable, and a caring, as well as a good husband and terrific father.

Then there is the considerable amount of time and money which he has always donated to our Armed Forces - free concerts, forming his own Charity etc.

No, Jim Davidson is no 'Racist', No 'Homophobe' and NO 'Monster'.

Instead, he is, like the REST of us, merely a FLAWED human being, and if I - for one - want to see a 'Plaster Saint', I will go to church.

Of course, it is a person's right to 'like' someone' or 'dislike' them so I don't expect everyone to agree with me, it is just my rightful opinion on a forum of which I am a member.


Great post Kirk :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The guy is one very funny person and this program was highly enjoyable.

Although using violence against a woman can NEVER be condoned, it does seem that Alison Holloway's graphic accounts of the violence he perpetrated against her in their 18 months long marriage is an isolated period in his life because no other wives or any of the hundreds of women he has had 'relationships' with have complained of anything similar - as far as I am aware.

Davidson insists that Alison was also violent during this marriage, and other possible mitigation for this violent period is that he was drug and alcohol-addled at that time.

The guy seemed honest and forthright about his past mistakes and SHOULD be given credit for 'turning his life around' and beating his alcohol and drug problems - just as ANYONE who has done the same should.

As for him being 'Racist' AND 'Homophobic', I find it strange that he numbers both black AND Gay people among his friends - a lot of them life-long friends.

Honest, fair and unbiased analysis of his controversial 'Chalkie' comedy routine can ONLY show that it is a warm impersonation carried out with obvious affection and bears no trace of malicious REAL racism.

His West Indian voice sketches are no different from Russ Abbot's Scotsman impressions with that exaggerated Glaswegian accent - "See you, Jimmy".

As for the derogatory term, ' Shirt-Lifter', Davidson ADMITTED that is was wrong, was obviously remorseful and said that he had never used the term again.

He also belongs to a generation when such terms were (wrongfully) commonplace, as were terms like 'Poofter' and 'Nancy-Boy'.

This does not EXCUSE his remark to Brian Dowling nor the offence which it caused, but - again - it appears to have been one isolated incident in a long life, and after all, he has NOT eaten live babies or murdered a nun.

His children, friends, current wife and the other of his ex-wives, ALL paint a very different picture of Jim Davidson to that portrayed by his detractors.

According to them, he is warm, loving, kind, generous, charitable, and a caring, as well as a good husband and terrific father.

Then there is the considerable amount of time and money which he has always donated to our Armed Forces - free concerts, forming his own Charity etc.

No, Jim Davidson is no 'Racist', No 'Homophobe' and NO 'Monster'.

Instead, he is, like the REST of us, merely a FLAWED human being, and if I - for one - want to see a 'Plaster Saint', I will go to church.

Of course, it is a person's right to 'like' someone' or 'dislike' them so I don't expect everyone to agree with me, it is just my rightful opinion on a forum of which I am a member.

:clap1:

common sense

[Northern Monkey]

The guy is one very funny person and this program was highly enjoyable.

Although using violence against a woman can NEVER be condoned, it does seem that Alison Holloway's graphic accounts of the violence he perpetrated against her in their 18 months long marriage is an isolated period in his life because no other wives or any of the hundreds of women he has had 'relationships' with have complained of anything similar - as far as I am aware.

Davidson insists that Alison was also violent during this marriage, and other possible mitigation for this violent period is that he was drug and alcohol-addled at that time.

The guy seemed honest and forthright about his past mistakes and SHOULD be given credit for 'turning his life around' and beating his alcohol and drug problems - just as ANYONE who has done the same should.

As for him being 'Racist' AND 'Homophobic', I find it strange that he numbers both black AND Gay people among his friends - a lot of them life-long friends.

Honest, fair and unbiased analysis of his controversial 'Chalkie' comedy routine can ONLY show that it is a warm impersonation carried out with obvious affection and bears no trace of malicious REAL racism.

His West Indian voice sketches are no different from Russ Abbot's Scotsman impressions with that exaggerated Glaswegian accent - "See you, Jimmy".

As for the derogatory term, ' Shirt-Lifter', Davidson ADMITTED that is was wrong, was obviously remorseful and said that he had never used the term again.

He also belongs to a generation when such terms were (wrongfully) commonplace, as were terms like 'Poofter' and 'Nancy-Boy'.

This does not EXCUSE his remark to Brian Dowling nor the offence which it caused, but - again - it appears to have been one isolated incident in a long life, and after all, he has NOT eaten live babies or murdered a nun.

His children, friends, current wife and the other of his ex-wives, ALL paint a very different picture of Jim Davidson to that portrayed by his detractors.

According to them, he is warm, loving, kind, generous, charitable, and a caring, as well as a good husband and terrific father.

Then there is the considerable amount of time and money which he has always donated to our Armed Forces - free concerts, forming his own Charity etc.

No, Jim Davidson is no 'Racist', No 'Homophobe' and NO 'Monster'.

Instead, he is, like the REST of us, merely a FLAWED human being, and if I - for one - want to see a 'Plaster Saint', I will go to church.

Of course, it is a person's right to 'like' someone' or 'dislike' them so I don't expect everyone to agree with me, it is just my rightful opinion on a forum of which I am a member.I agree.
He’s not a murderer.Just a flawed human like the rest of us and a product of his time.

[Kizzy]

The guy is one very funny person and this program was highly enjoyable.

Although using violence against a woman can NEVER be condoned, it does seem that Alison Holloway's graphic accounts of the violence he perpetrated against her in their 18 months long marriage is an isolated period in his life because no other wives or any of the hundreds of women he has had 'relationships' with have complained of anything similar - as far as I am aware.

Davidson insists that Alison was also violent during this marriage, and other possible mitigation for this violent period is that he was drug and alcohol-addled at that time.

The guy seemed honest and forthright about his past mistakes and SHOULD be given credit for 'turning his life around' and beating his alcohol and drug problems - just as ANYONE who has done the same should.

As for him being 'Racist' AND 'Homophobic', I find it strange that he numbers both black AND Gay people among his friends - a lot of them life-long friends.

Honest, fair and unbiased analysis of his controversial 'Chalkie' comedy routine can ONLY show that it is a warm impersonation carried out with obvious affection and bears no trace of malicious REAL racism.

His West Indian voice sketches are no different from Russ Abbot's Scotsman impressions with that exaggerated Glaswegian accent - "See you, Jimmy".

As for the derogatory term, ' Shirt-Lifter', Davidson ADMITTED that is was wrong, was obviously remorseful and said that he had never used the term again.

He also belongs to a generation when such terms were (wrongfully) commonplace, as were terms like 'Poofter' and 'Nancy-Boy'.

This does not EXCUSE his remark to Brian Dowling nor the offence which it caused, but - again - it appears to have been one isolated incident in a long life, and after all, he has NOT eaten live babies or murdered a nun.

His children, friends, current wife and the other of his ex-wives, ALL paint a very different picture of Jim Davidson to that portrayed by his detractors.

According to them, he is warm, loving, kind, generous, charitable, and a caring, as well as a good husband and terrific father.

Then there is the considerable amount of time and money which he has always donated to our Armed Forces - free concerts, forming his own Charity etc.

No, Jim Davidson is no 'Racist', No 'Homophobe' and NO 'Monster'.

Instead, he is, like the REST of us, merely a FLAWED human being, and if I - for one - want to see a 'Plaster Saint', I will go to church.

Of course, it is a person's right to 'like' someone' or 'dislike' them so I don't expect everyone to agree with me, it is just my rightful opinion on a forum of which I am a member.

This very funny person asked disabled audience members in the front row of his show to move as his material specifically mocked disabled people.

Whether or not the period was isolated making excuses for those who use other people as whipping posts or sounding boards due to their addiction is not right.

He does not deserve credit, he admitted throwing a bunch of keys then stated he didn't mean to do it... that is not an acknowledgement nor an apology. He deserves nothing.

He has labeled himself a 'homophobic Ahole' as for the Chalky portion of his act that was quoted in 1977 as 'crude and racist,' regardless he released a single in the same accent in 1980 called 'white Christmas'.

Many people belong to that generation, they do not use those terms therefore your apologist attitude falls a little flat here, not to mention being insulting to a whole generation of people who never found his brand of mocking, crude and offensive 'comedy' funny.

Whatever is said today doesn't detract from past events, he may have mellowed or sought help for his addictions it bears no relevance.

On the subject of money, his tax dodging and living in exile in Dubai have given him the opportunity to spend his money in other ways such as it seems setting up charities so other people can donate their already taxed income... how noble.

He is flawed, I can deal with flawed I myself am flawed what I can't deal with is those who fail to acknowledge, admit accountability for those flaws, they come a very close second to those who make the most elaborate excuses imaginable for them.

[Marsh.]

I agree.
He’s not a murderer.Just a flawed human like the rest of us and a product of his time.
Nobody's accused him of murder.

Murder isn't the criteria for bring a bad person.

[Tozzie]

The guy is one very funny person and this program was highly enjoyable.

Although using violence against a woman can NEVER be condoned, it does seem that Alison Holloway's graphic accounts of the violence he perpetrated against her in their 18 months long marriage is an isolated period in his life because no other wives or any of the hundreds of women he has had 'relationships' with have complained of anything similar - as far as I am aware.

Davidson insists that Alison was also violent during this marriage, and other possible mitigation for this violent period is that he was drug and alcohol-addled at that time.

The guy seemed honest and forthright about his past mistakes and SHOULD be given credit for 'turning his life around' and beating his alcohol and drug problems - just as ANYONE who has done the same should.

As for him being 'Racist' AND 'Homophobic', I find it strange that he numbers both black AND Gay people among his friends - a lot of them life-long friends.

Honest, fair and unbiased analysis of his controversial 'Chalkie' comedy routine can ONLY show that it is a warm impersonation carried out with obvious affection and bears no trace of malicious REAL racism.

His West Indian voice sketches are no different from Russ Abbot's Scotsman impressions with that exaggerated Glaswegian accent - "See you, Jimmy".

As for the derogatory term, ' Shirt-Lifter', Davidson ADMITTED that is was wrong, was obviously remorseful and said that he had never used the term again.

He also belongs to a generation when such terms were (wrongfully) commonplace, as were terms like 'Poofter' and 'Nancy-Boy'.

This does not EXCUSE his remark to Brian Dowling nor the offence which it caused, but - again - it appears to have been one isolated incident in a long life, and after all, he has NOT eaten live babies or murdered a nun.

His children, friends, current wife and the other of his ex-wives, ALL paint a very different picture of Jim Davidson to that portrayed by his detractors.

According to them, he is warm, loving, kind, generous, charitable, and a caring, as well as a good husband and terrific father.

Then there is the considerable amount of time and money which he has always donated to our Armed Forces - free concerts, forming his own Charity etc.

No, Jim Davidson is no 'Racist', No 'Homophobe' and NO 'Monster'.

Instead, he is, like the REST of us, merely a FLAWED human being, and if I - for one - want to see a 'Plaster Saint', I will go to church.

Of course, it is a person's right to 'like' someone' or 'dislike' them so I don't expect everyone to agree with me, it is just my rightful opinion on a forum of which I am a member.

My thoughts too, Jim isn't perfect but who is.

:thumbs::clap1:

[Tozzie]

Not many people can tbf.

And many people do tbf. He's marmite some love him some hate him. Also some love to hate him . I like him.

[Marsh.]

Why do people keep responding with "he's not perfect" or "he's not a murderer" when that's not even the discussion? [emoji23]

Whoop de doo he's never killed someone, meanwhile, back to the actual topic...

[Brillopad]

Why do people keep responding with "he's not perfect" or "he's not a murderer" when that's not even the discussion? [emoji23]

Whoop de doo he's never killed someone, meanwhile, back to the actual topic...

Meanwhile you can go wherever you like whilst others can make their own decisions without your ‘input’. Whoop de doo!

[Epic.]

Two pigs

This got an unexpected laugh out of me and sums it all up :joker:

[Marsh.]

This got an unexpected laugh out of me and sums it all up :joker:
Certainly does. Two arseholes smugly licking one another.

[Twosugars]

Certainly does. Two arseholes smugly licking one another.
:joker:
That is. Perfectly put.

[Livia]

His humour isn't really my cup of tea, but if you go to see Jim Davidson, you know pretty much what you're going to get. You don't like him, don't watch him. Other people may like him and that's their business, it's not anyone else's call. And Jim Davidson has a huge fan base. But hey... if a few people on here don't like him, he's obviously Satan. That seems to be the way of things now.

I watched the programme last night. I can't imagine why people would have walked out, if they actually did walk out. They seemed to me to be a very responsive audience. But hey, if they don''t think Davidson is a knob, then they're all wrong... presumably. There are a lot of troops who he has entertained in the Falklands, Afghanistan, Iraq Bosnia, places where other entertainers didn't bother to go, who think he's a legend.

[Kizzy]

His humour isn't really my cup of tea, but if you go to see Jim Davidson, you know pretty much what you're going to get. You don't like him, don't watch him. Other people may like him and that's their business, it's not anyone else's call. And Jim Davidson has a huge fan base. But hey... if a few people on here don't like him, he's obviously Satan. That seems to be the way of things now.

I watched the programme last night. I can't imagine why people would have walked out, if they actually did walk out. They seemed to me to be a very responsive audience. But hey, if they don''t think Davidson is a knob, then they're all wrong... presumably. There are a lot of troops who he has entertained in the Falklands, Afghanistan, Iraq Bosnia, places where other entertainers didn't bother to go, who think he's a legend.

Nope that isn't 'the way of things'... Some don't agree with the pathetic excuses meted out for his very public or well documented assaults is all.