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Brillopad
11-03-2018, 03:36 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/english-defence-league-founder-tommy-12165710
About half a dozen masked men against one. Whatever anyone thinks of Robinson so many against one is pure cowardice. No wonder they cover their cowardly faces.
As they are likely to be left-wing it is yet further examples of how these oh so caring people behave. Pure thugs.
Tom4784
11-03-2018, 03:43 PM
Everything he does is pretty much faked to push an agenda and nothing about this looks to be any different.
DemolitionRed
11-03-2018, 04:10 PM
I see the police weren't interested... good men!
Underscore
11-03-2018, 04:14 PM
Everything he does is pretty much faked to push an agenda and nothing about this looks to be any different.
Totally agree
Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2018, 04:16 PM
Everything he does is pretty much faked to push an agenda and nothing about this looks to be any different.
if you think that was a fake fight, you have never had a fight before
Northern Monkey
11-03-2018, 04:23 PM
Masks,Teamed up,hitting women,Pussy’s.
These idiots never wanna go one on one.They always need a crew.
Tommy Robinson is hardly a saint so how can this video be treated seriously
Tom4784
11-03-2018, 04:25 PM
if you think that was a fake fight, you have never had a fight before
No blows made contact, just a few clips of people grappling and the camera pulled away at odd points when contact would have been made, that's suspicious to me. Nobody seemed to have any injuries and the whole ego affirming bystanders going 'YOU ****ED THEM UP BRUV!' is painfully transparent.
It would take a certain brand of gullibility to look at that video and think it was real.
Withano
11-03-2018, 04:28 PM
Are we assuming it's real? Or just another click bait fake video for his YouTube channel?
GiRTh
11-03-2018, 04:36 PM
No blows made contact, just a few clips of people grappling and the camera pulled away at odd points when contact would have been made, that's suspicious to me. Nobody seemed to have any injuries and the whole ego affirming bystanders going 'YOU ****ED THEM UP BRUV!' is painfully transparent.
It would take a certain brand of gullibility to look at that video and think it was real.Agree with this.
At least five of them and if they knew what they were doing he would have stood no chance but he seemed to hold his own against them. Not sure about that video.
user104658
11-03-2018, 04:47 PM
Agree with this.
At least five of them and if they knew what they were doing he would have stood no chance but he seemed to hold his own against them. Not sure about that video.Exactly, there's action movie fight logic going on here... One or two attacking at a time while the others stand back "dancing about" waiting for their turn.
That's not how fights of 3+ on one actually go, and I've seen a tonne of them :joker:. They go like this: single guy gets rushed by all at once, is on the floor within 10 seconds, and all others kick / stamp.
The fact that he mostly stayed on his feet and doesn't have a scratch on him means that he either was NOT attacked by "half a dozen people" - or that they weren't serious about hurting him. :shrug:.
Vicky.
11-03-2018, 04:53 PM
Exactly, there's action movie fight logic going on here... One or two attacking at a time while the others stand back "dancing about" waiting for their turn.
That's not how fights of 3+ on one actually go, and I've seen a tonne of them :joker:. They go like this: single guy gets rushed by all at once, is on the floor within 10 seconds, and all others kick / stamp.
The fact that he mostly stayed on his feet and doesn't have a scratch on him means that he either was NOT attacked by "half a dozen people" - or that they weren't serious about hurting him. :shrug:.
Indeed. Sorry but this looks fake as **** to me. Thats just not how 'brawls' happen..not in my (extended) experience :laugh: Have worked in the bar trade for years and years and have seen so many fights its unreal, very serious stuff sometimes like glassing or stabbing, sometimes just normal fights, sometimes 3 on 1, and so on. And that was not real. No chance.
Seems a bit set up so he can play the 'I am so hard me like' image, especially with all the talk afterwards about how he 'had' them all or whatever.
I see the police weren't interested... good men!
Dr happy for women to be assaulted by men.
Underscore
12-03-2018, 08:54 AM
It's obvious to anyone this is fake. No one hurt, no one to arrest, nothing factual to suggest anyone is left wing as Tommy claims. Camera moves away at every point of physical contact. Also Tommy took down the video on his Facebook where he was saying he was attacked by far left Asian men. Might that just be because it's obvious to anyone with eyes these men are white Caucasian and he done goofed. This whole charade is just a meek attempt by the EDL to gain popularity and play the victim after its leaders got locked up for hate crimes, one of which the stress caused a lady to miscarry and lose her baby. There's no such thing as left wing fascism in the UK. The EDL should be banned, this is more than just political freedom and an expression of views, everywhere they go they antagonize, create trouble, spread hatred and for anyone who's studied history and politics such as myself it's not hard to see the similarities between them and the Nazi party
The Slim Reaper
12-03-2018, 10:10 AM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/english-defence-league-founder-tommy-12165710
About half a dozen masked men against one. Whatever anyone thinks of Robinson so many against one is pure cowardice. No wonder they cover their cowardly faces.
As they are likely to be left-wing it is yet further examples of how these oh so caring people behave. Pure thugs.
I wish more people shared your courage and were able to stand up for the brave patriot Tommy Robinson, against the the marxist scum that threatens to infect our way of life.
It's obvious to anyone this is fake. No one hurt, no one to arrest, nothing factual to suggest anyone is left wing as Tommy claims. Camera moves away at every point of physical contact. Also Tommy took down the video on his Facebook where he was saying he was attacked by far left Asian men. Might that just be because it's obvious to anyone with eyes these men are white Caucasian and he done goofed. This whole charade is just a meek attempt by the EDL to gain popularity and play the victim after its leaders got locked up for hate crimes, one of which the stress caused a lady to miscarry and lose her baby. There's no such thing as left wing fascism in the UK. The EDL should be banned, this is more than just political freedom and an expression of views, everywhere they go they antagonize, create trouble, spread hatred and for anyone who's studied history and politics such as myself it's not hard to see the similarities between them and the Nazi party
What has tommy robinson got to do with the EDL?
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 10:24 AM
A woman who was with him filming was also attacked and thrown to the floor, camera equipment was smashed and police were called - the incident is being investigated. One of the activists has already been exposed as a labour momentum member...
Of course some one like TR and his police record this is exactly what he would stage because there would be no way that it could be checked and immediately found to be bogus...
:facepalm:
Tom4784
12-03-2018, 02:04 PM
You'd have to have a serious case of confirmation bias to look at that video, ignore the inconsistencies and think it's real because you desperately want it to be true, like Vicky and TS said, have you ever heard of a group of attackers getting in line to attack someone? Is there any evidence that anyone was actually hurt? We have a carefully shot video that's missing vital evidence (and logic) and the word of a known liar and agitator.
It's utter bull****.
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 02:07 PM
You'd have to have a serious case of confirmation bias to look at that video, ignore the inconsistencies and think it's real because you desperately want it to be true, like Vicky and TS said, have you ever heard of a group of attackers getting in line to attack someone? Is there any evidence that anyone was actually hurt? We have a carefully shot video that's missing vital evidence (and logic) and the word of a known liar and agitator.
It's utter bull****.
The police will have that evidence. Why would they provide any evidence to you? To think that the video was staged is far more ludicrous and telling...
The 4 black kids applauding tommys efforts makes this video real.
Only an utter fanny would think someone would fake a fight in broad daylight in a busy town...take 2 tommy....wait, did anyone see us doing take one?
Bloody tinfoil city round here.
Plus, tommy want injured cause he stood his ground and ****ing had it.
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 02:16 PM
reported in
the mirror
indy
star
metro
sun
cambridge news
DM
RT
Daily Record
They all were happy to report it as fact and as I have said one attacker has been unmasked
:idc:
Kizzy
12-03-2018, 02:17 PM
It does look like a group of kids had a go at him, he gave it back though :/
However it's odd that you'd have a camera crew with you for a trip to macdonalds.
Using this to slur momentum, activists or antifa is a reach, had it been some orchestrated event you would have thought the performance wouldn't have looked like a yr10 scrap in the playground.
Tom4784
12-03-2018, 02:19 PM
The 4 black kids applauding tommys efforts makes this video real.
Only an utter fanny would think someone would fake a fight in broad daylight in a busy town...take 2 tommy....wait, did anyone see us doing take one?
Bloody tinfoil city round here.
Plus, tommy want injured cause he stood his ground and ****ing had it.
He wasn't injured because it wasn't a real fight. It was pretend. In the slightly altered words of LT.
'If you think this was a real fight, then you've never had fight before'
Nobody gangs up on someone to attack them and then wait for their turn, They would have all jumped on him and taken him to the ground. If this was real, one lone man could not have dealt with multiple attackers unless they knew what they were doing and he did not know what he was doing.
As for the 'onlookers', they were just plants to stroke Robinson's ego and make him look well 'ard.
Until you can explain the inconsistencies and provide proof of injuries, police records or any solid proof that isn't a known liar's word then you can't convince anyone that this is real.
You say it's tinfoil to logically consider the evidence and say this is faked but what about someone who ignores the inconsistencies to believe the fantasy this video is putting out?
It does look like a group of kids had a go at him, he gave it back though :/
It does seem odd that you'd have a camera crew with you for a trip to macdonalds though.
Using this to slur momentum, activists or antifa is a reach, had it been some orchestrated event you would have thought the performance wouldn't have looked like a yr10 scrap in the playground.
It wasnt a trip to mcdonalds though.:joker:
You say a group of kids....thats a reach, what with the covered faces and all that.
Tom4784
12-03-2018, 02:21 PM
reported in
the mirror
indy
star
metro
sun
cambridge news
DM
RT
Daily Record
They all were happy to report it as fact and as I have said one attacker has been unmasked
:idc:
Most of them push their agendas and would support Tommy Robinson regardless, the rest you haven't linked to so I can only assuem you've twisted their words, reporting on an a video is not the same as saying the video's content is 100% real.
He wasn't injured because it wasn't a real fight. It was pretend. In the slightly altered words of LT.
'If you think this was a real fight, then you've never had fight before'
Nobody gangs up on someone to attack them and then wait for their turn, They would have all jumped on him and taken him to the ground. If this was real, one lone man could not have dealt with multiple attackers unless they knew what they were doing and he did not know what he was doing.
As for the 'onlookers', they were just plants to stroke Robinson's ego and make him look well 'ard.
Until you can explain the inconsistencies and provide proof of injuries, police records or any solid proof that isn't a known liar's word then you can't convince anyone that this is real.
You say it's tinfoil to logically consider the evidence and say this is faked but what about someone who ignores the inconsistencies to believe the fantasy this video is putting out?
Like lt says....blah blah.....
Hes a hard **** tommy, dealing with masked cowards is easy meat to him..i reckon i would have smashed these tits as well if they had tried it with me...you could almost see the weed fumes pouring iff the absolute pathetic human specimens...no wonder they mask up.
Jordan.
12-03-2018, 02:34 PM
I thought this was the new BB slogan
Niamh.
12-03-2018, 02:38 PM
I thought this was the new BB slogan
:laugh2:
Kizzy
12-03-2018, 02:40 PM
Thought it was the new SD slogan :idc:
Thought it was the new SD slogan :idc:
Why would you think that?
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 02:52 PM
Thought it was the new SD slogan :idc:
That does not make sense
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 03:00 PM
Full video of the attack here
http://your-brexit.co.uk/news/anger-as-police-refuse-to-investigate-attack-on-tommy-robinson-in-london/
DemolitionRed
12-03-2018, 03:01 PM
reported in
the mirror
indy
star
metro
sun
cambridge news
DM
RT
Daily Record
They all were happy to report it as fact and as I have said one attacker has been unmasked
:idc:
And all the ones with comment sections have more people shouting fake than anything else.
DemolitionRed
12-03-2018, 03:05 PM
Dr happy for women to be assaulted by men.
I don't think she was assaulted. After watching the video again, I agree it was staged.
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 03:05 PM
And all the ones with comment sections have more people shouting fake than anything else.
My point is that all the said organs have editorial checks and balances and do not report items without verification checks.
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 03:06 PM
I don't think she was assaulted. After watching the video again, I agree it was staged.
watch the full video and be prepared to eat your words
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX_go4qXUAE_GiP.jpg
DemolitionRed
12-03-2018, 03:14 PM
I know guys a lot tougher than Tommy. The difference between them and him is, they don't mouth off, they don't profess to be hard. You'd never know if you met them in the street. Tommy is just a loud mouthed thug and the way he's going, he's going to end up with more than a boot to the head.
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 03:17 PM
I know guys a lot tougher than Tommy. The difference between them and him is, they don't mouth off, they don't profess to be hard. You'd never know if you met them in the street. Tommy is just a loud mouthed thug and the way he's going, he's going to end up with more than a boot to the head.
You have no idea how tough anyone is unless you have seen them scrap - what do you even mean by tough?
:joker:
Kizzy
12-03-2018, 03:19 PM
That does not make sense
ok
I know guys a lot tougher than Tommy. The difference between them and him is, they don't mouth off, they don't profess to be hard. You'd never know if you met them in the street. Tommy is just a loud mouthed thug and the way he's going, he's going to end up with more than a boot to the head.
:joker::joker::joker:
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 03:21 PM
ok
(that reply isnt going to catch on regardless of how many times you attempt it btw)
:idc:
Kizzy
12-03-2018, 03:22 PM
(that reply isnt going to catch on regardless of how many times you attempt it btw)
:idc:
ok
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 03:24 PM
ok
https://media.tenor.com/images/767e3dd8a60e3654c7d75f9f5d20bdb7/tenor.gif
Twosugars
12-03-2018, 03:28 PM
Fake news. SAD.
as Trump would put it
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 03:42 PM
Fake news. SAD.
as Trump would put it
And based on your experience of staged beatings what would your evidence be save prejudice?
DemolitionRed
12-03-2018, 03:43 PM
So his real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon who uses other names... Andrew McMaster and Paul Harris.
Here's a video of him repeatedly punching a guy in the head at Royal Ascot. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3879620/tommy-robinson-punch-royal-ascot-edl-self-defence-latest/
GiRTh
12-03-2018, 03:52 PM
Just watched it again and :laugh: A number of things struck me. TR gets alot of momentum coming out of the door yet still misses the first two guys, they then get him on the floor twice - camera conveniently pans away twice - yet allow him to get up twice, and the guy who was trying to get the camera off the girl does what I can only describe as tae kwon do style roundhouse kick presumably to TR who is off camera. Roundhouse kick to the head is not the highest percentage move in that situation. If this isnt staged then these are the worse thugs ever. If this is the best the far left can offer then I think the far right will win the physical battle.
So his real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon who uses other names... Andrew McMaster and Paul Harris.
Here's a video of him repeatedly punching a guy in the head at Royal Ascot. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3879620/tommy-robinson-punch-royal-ascot-edl-self-defence-latest/
I was there, that guy insulted his wife and kids..he was part of the same party and had been a dick all day....
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 03:56 PM
So his real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon who uses other names... Andrew McMaster and Paul Harris.
Here's a video of him repeatedly punching a guy in the head at Royal Ascot. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3879620/tommy-robinson-punch-royal-ascot-edl-self-defence-latest/
what on earth has this got to do with the thread?
please discuss the thread topic
oh wait you are saying that one is fake too
i see
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2018, 03:58 PM
I was there, that guy insulted his wife and kids..he was part of the same party and had been a dick all day....
i think i posted that video and guess what
no one said it was fake as i recall
:joker:
i think i posted that video and guess what
no one said it was fake as i recall
:joker:
I know, and it was an obvious fake as well.:joker:
DemolitionRed
12-03-2018, 04:12 PM
I was there, that guy insulted his wife and kids..he was part of the same party and had been a dick all day....
Did you just happen to be walking past Robinson?
There are ways to deal with insults and repeatedly thumping a guy in the head isn't one of them. Robinson is known for liking a good scrap. He's known for intimidating people.
The mans just an ex football thug who enjoyed his time with His Majesties Service for fraud. The Telegraph says, " He's a cut-price demagogue in designer clobber who has spent four-and-a-half years inciting hatred against Muslims with his menacing and often violent rallies."
DemolitionRed
12-03-2018, 04:13 PM
And some of you guys think he's wonderful!
..I don’t know if this ‘attack’ is real or not real, it’s hard to say because it does have a feeling of being ‘staged’...assuming it was real, then the irony is that the attackers in their actions have become more what they themselves ‘hate’ or object to so much that they would act with physical violence..that’s sadly how ‘hate’ works though, when it’s incited and encouraged...it creates extremes and it creates violence, it collects and it gathers etc because it’s not conveyed to just the ‘balanced minds’ in society...and then there are no ‘right’ or justified actions from all involved with these things and these acts of violence....the spoken word is very powerful, possibly one of the most powerful weapons there is...and Tommy doesn’t seem to use his ‘weapon’...in any positive way, but more in a very endangering way for minority races in this country....
chuff me dizzy
13-03-2018, 12:27 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/english-defence-league-founder-tommy-12165710
About half a dozen masked men against one. Whatever anyone thinks of Robinson so many against one is pure cowardice. No wonder they cover their cowardly faces.
As they are likely to be left-wing it is yet further examples of how these oh so caring people behave. Pure thugs.
I admire Robinsons guts,he doesn't shy away from his beliefs and has had so many threats made towards him,yet still he carries on
Tom4784
13-03-2018, 02:00 PM
Very little to admire about a known liar that fakes incidents like this to push an agenda of hate. He is a violent thug and nothing more.
Kizzy
13-03-2018, 02:13 PM
I admire Robinsons guts,he doesn't shy away from his beliefs and has had so many threats made towards him,yet still he carries on
So did Hitler. :/
user104658
13-03-2018, 02:52 PM
I admire Robinsons guts,he doesn't shy away from his beliefs and has had so many threats made towards him,yet still he carries onHe's made a huge career out of it that he never would have had otherwise, though, and frankly I highly doubt he'd still be doing it if it wasn't his main source of (very decent) income. Is it really still "guts" or "conviction" if it comes with a tonne of £££ signs attached?
Take Katie Hopkins for example. I guarantee that even SHE doesn't believe half of the worst things she comes out with / that generate hatred and threats towards her... But she's built her entire career around it so she carries on. Robinson isn't much different really, just the working class underbelly of "journalists" like Hopkins.
Kizzy
13-03-2018, 02:59 PM
Why is he not getting the label of 'extremist'?... He quite obviously is one :/
Brillopad
13-03-2018, 06:38 PM
I know guys a lot tougher than Tommy. The difference between them and him is, they don't mouth off, they don't profess to be hard. You'd never know if you met them in the street. Tommy is just a loud mouthed thug and the way he's going, he's going to end up with more than a boot to the head.
Blimey - that sounds very much like a threat. I can think of far worse than him who will hopefully get their just desserts first.
Withano
13-03-2018, 08:05 PM
I can think of far worse than him who will hopefully get their just desserts first.
Not really relevant though is it? This is about Tommy.
Withano
13-03-2018, 08:11 PM
He's made a huge career out of it that he never would have had otherwise, though, and frankly I highly doubt he'd still be doing it if it wasn't his main source of (very decent) income. Is it really still "guts" or "conviction" if it comes with a tonne of £££ signs attached?
Take Katie Hopkins for example. I guarantee that even SHE doesn't believe half of the worst things she comes out with / that generate hatred and threats towards her... But she's built her entire career around it so she carries on. Robinson isn't much different really, just the working class underbelly of "journalists" like Hopkins.
I agree, its less to do with politics, and more to do with him trying to work out ways to get money and a publicity boost.
He had no message here, this was just about YouTube views. I would bet my money on there being a link to ways you can financially support Robinson on that YouTube video.
But as long as he has a devoted fanbase, the work he does, or doesnt do, is irrelevant. He will carry on being the exact same irritant, because his fanbase are still daft enough to buy in to his every word/the authenticity of his YouTube vids.
Did you just happen to be walking past Robinson?
There are ways to deal with insults and repeatedly thumping a guy in the head isn't one of them. Robinson is known for liking a good scrap. He's known for intimidating people.
The mans just an ex football thug who enjoyed his time with His Majesties Service for fraud. The Telegraph says, " He's a cut-price demagogue in designer clobber who has spent four-and-a-half years inciting hatred against Muslims with his menacing and often violent rallies."
What part of i was there dont you understand?
Livia
14-03-2018, 10:38 AM
Violence is never acceptable. Unless it's against someone you don't like. Right?
Kizzy
14-03-2018, 05:01 PM
Has anyone said any of this is acceptable? I must have missed that.
Withano
14-03-2018, 06:19 PM
What part of i was there dont you understand?
Ooh yeh, I was there too. Did you see the part Robinson stabbed a kitten and danced around wearing lycra? It was an interesting day. We of all people know that.
Ooh yeh, I was there too. Did you see the part Robinson stabbed a kitten and danced around wearing lycra? It was an interesting day. We of all people know that.
Smacks of jealousy.
Withano
14-03-2018, 06:25 PM
Smacks of jealousy.
Why would I be jealous. What part of I was there too did you not understand.
Why would I be jealous. What part of I was there too did you not understand.
The bit where you said you were there.
You weren't.
Withano
14-03-2018, 07:23 PM
The bit where you said you were there.
You weren't.
Mhmm was too
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