would you like to see serious debates axed

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

the forum would be a nicer place without ha!

[Niamh.]

It shouldn't be axed but I think people should make more of an effort to try and just stick to the topics of threads rather than eachother

[Marsh.]

Yes, and everything inside of it. :hehe:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

literally every thread posted in that subforum is relentlessly depressing i just think the forum would benefit from the cull

[Rob!]

I think it does rather open the floodgates to pointless political arguments, which a lot of the time can create more personal insults than most topics, but at the same time, the topics would just end up being somewhere else and in fairness, if people can't be mature enough to listen to other people's opinions than actually listening to another side of an argument and instead act like mentally challanged children, then at least the SD section is keeping them off the streets.

[Babayaro.]

Yes! :clap1:

[Tom4784]

If it was down to me, I'd get rid. It's pretty much impossible to mod that section and most threads end up down the toilet before long.

[Withano]

If people stuck to the topic, it would be excellent. But some dont, and their offtopic posts are left for people to respond to making the whole thing pointless.

[Marsh.]

I think it does rather open the floodgates to pointless political arguments, which a lot of the time can create more personal insults than most topics, but at the same time, the topics would just end up being somewhere else and in fairness, if people can't be mature enough to listen to other people's opinions than actually listening to another side of an argument and instead act like mentally challanged children, then at least the SD section is keeping them off the streets.

^^^^

Can we ban this moaning old woman please?

[Withano]

literally every thread posted in that subforum is relentlessly depressing i just think the forum would benefit from the cull

Wow you must have missed all of mine.

[Morgan.]

Yeah I don't think it's good for the forum at all.

[Alf]

No! I'm for the freedom of speech.

[Twosugars]

No! I'm for the freedom of speech.

it's scary coz I have to agree with Alf

it should be left alone
people who can't take the heat shouldn't visit it, that's all, there's plenty of other subforums
re. personal attacks, lack of SD wouldn't make a difference, BB threads can get very personal and vicious too, but you'd not even think of getting rid of those

[Marsh.]

it's scary coz I have to agree with Alf

it should be left alone
people who can't take the heat shouldn't visit it, that's all, there's plenty of other subforums
re. personal attacks, lack of SD wouldn't make a difference, BB threads can get very personal and vicious too, but you'd not even think of getting rid of those

Actually the BB section is the first section I'd cull. :skull:

[Cherie]

No and why would SD bother you when you allegedly have it on ignore...just call me Morse not to be confused with Morsh

[Niamh.]

Actually the BB section is the first section I'd cull. :skull:Thisisnotbigbrother :oh:

[Twosugars]

Actually the BB section is the first section I'd cull. :skull:

:joker:

would need to change the name of the forum then

[Marsh.]

Thisisnotbigbrother :oh:

Catchy :clap1:

[Twosugars]

and since we on the topic of subforums, Drag Race should get its own

[Smithy]

Replace her with a Ru Paul’s Drag Race subforum instead! Let’s argue about lip syncs not brexit!

[Smithy]

and since we on the topic of subforums, Drag Race should get its own

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[hijaxers]

I'd say no, i always read them but after seeing how nasty it tends to become i just read and stay out of it because it like some members enjoy being just plain argumentative. This is not pointed at anyone in particular.

[Shaun]

I suppose the title alone suggests it should be spent solely for debating so it's inevitably going to end up looking heated and exhausting, so I would just condense it into the General Chat bit just to save the hassle (if there's a change at all, which I'm not fussy about)

[Maru]

No, I think some just need to take a tech break more often if a forum has that much influence over their day to day emotional well-being... there is more to the life than what happens behind a computer screen. Balance is all that is needed.

[JerseyWins]

Seems like that's the section to go to when you want to throw down https://media.giphy.com/media/SE9GuwDRbKE48/giphy.gif

[Marsh.]

Yeah, maybe if the word "debates" was taken out discussions would start off less fraught?

Maybe "Serious News" or "News Chat" or "Good Morning TiBB with Dezzy and Rob".

[RileyH]

and since we on the topic of subforums, Drag Race should get its own

Replace her with a Ru Paul’s Drag Race subforum instead! Let’s argue about lip syncs not brexit!

It's what we deserve
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[Jordan.]

I just don't understand how passionate people get about it, like as if posting an opinion on a BB forum that about 20 people will see is so meaningful :skull:

[smudgie]

No.
People just need to chill a bit, debate instead of deBAIT.
We all have our own opinions, they don’t all have to be the same, agree to disagree, we are all adults.

[michael21]

the forum would be a nicer place without ha!

No the forum need to get bigger not smaller if an member don't like a section then there don't have to view it

[Jodie.]

I have SUCH a good idea right

If you start an argument or whatever or go off topic then u should be banned from that subforum for abit lol instead of just getting an infraction etc x

[Marsh.]

I have SUCH a good idea right

If you start an argument or whatever or go off topic then u should be banned from that subforum for abit lol instead of just getting an infraction etc x

That already happens hun.

[Scarlett.]

I turned Serious Debates off, I'm now enjoying the forums much much more.

[Twosugars]

political discussions tend to get heated, see tv or parliament
like it or not, people need to have somewhere to discuss such topics
especially now when we all can live in a bubble and surround ourselves only with people we agree with
it's uncomfortable but it's good to be exposed to opposing views and practice debating such views effectively, it forces us to back up views with evidence

[Ant.]

Hm yes but bring it back in ten years when I know what politics is and I'm banned from Twitter for slating the prime minister too much

[Twosugars]

Yeah, maybe if the word "debates" was taken out discussions would start off less fraught?

Maybe "Serious News" or "News Chat" or "Good Morning TiBB with Dezzy and Rob".

:laugh:
five minutes slot for each topic and we move on to makeup tips and commercials

[Lostie!]

Not really

[caprimint]

No it causes drama

[Amy Jade]

I think it's fine. I go on it now and then and don't recall ever arguing, I think even if someone is passionate we should be able to keep it civil?

[Underscore]

Replace her with a Ru Paul’s Drag Race subforum instead! Let’s argue about lip syncs not brexit!

.

[Ammi]

it's scary coz I have to agree with Alf

it should be left alone
people who can't take the heat shouldn't visit it, that's all, there's plenty of other subforums
re. personal attacks, lack of SD wouldn't make a difference, BB threads can get very personal and vicious too, but you'd not even think of getting rid of those

...I think ‘the heat’ can be taken by all who tend to post there, Twosugars..the heat of debates and topics that is...but it’s more getting to that ‘heat’ and finding it and keeping it on track as it’s were...with so much personal stuff which (...from threads I’ve seen recently..)...seems to ‘carry’ from thread to thread to thread and topic to topic etc...the ‘heat’ is lovely but the heat gets distracted from so much, is the thing...

[Ammi]

I think it's fine. I go on it now and then and don't recall ever arguing, I think even if someone is passionate we should be able to keep it civil?

...Amy..:lovedup:...

[Jamie89]

literally every thread posted in that subforum is relentlessly depressing i just think the forum would benefit from the cull

Justice for Maru's SD Comedy Thread!

[Scarlett.]

The problem with SD is the threads are less about the topics, more about the posters getting one up on each other.

[Brother Leon]

It’s not as bad as when every thread was basically atheism preaching.

[MTVN]

It’s not as bad as when every thread was basically atheism preaching.

Yeah can't remember the last time we had a religion thread actually, used to be all we had

[Tom4784]

:laugh:
five minutes slot for each topic and we move on to makeup tips and commercials

Rob giving makeup tips? HAVE YOU SEEN HIS CONTOURING!? He looks like the Demon from the Exorcist.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the forum would be a nicer place without ha!

You have never had a serious debate in your life





and "me" does not count


:)

[Twosugars]

Christopher Hitchins, huh?
Aspirational.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

You have never had a serious debate in your life





and "me" does not count


:)

bitch you don’t know my life? how do you know i’ve never had a serious debate

i had a debate with my da about bitcoin the other day ACTUALLY so ****

[Twosugars]

Rob giving makeup tips? HAVE YOU SEEN HIS CONTOURING!? He looks like the Demon from the Exorcist.
:joker:
hear me out: he would be the model; just imagine before and after :blush:
your avatar choice (best on here) gives me faith you know your way with a blusher

[Twosugars]

...I think ‘the heat’ can be taken by all who tend to post there, Twosugars..the heat of debates and topics that is...but it’s more getting to that ‘heat’ and finding it and keeping it on track as it’s were...with so much personal stuff which (...from threads I’ve seen recently..)...seems to ‘carry’ from thread to thread to thread and topic to topic etc...the ‘heat’ is lovely but the heat gets distracted from so much, is the thing...

Valid point, Ammi. But that can be also true of any threads/topics, for example BB threads often get vicious.

[Beso]

Nothing more than a changed name fm starting a thread to get everyone who debates and argues on s and d to come into the thread and argue...deserves an infraction imo for baiting...

[Alf]

it's scary coz I have to agree with Alf

it should be left alone
people who can't take the heat shouldn't visit it, that's all, there's plenty of other subforums
re. personal attacks, lack of SD wouldn't make a difference, BB threads can get very personal and vicious too, but you'd not even think of getting rid of thoseWhat's scary about agreeing with me?

I find that offensive. Which going by today's laws, makes your post a hate crime. You can go to prison for a hate crime.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

What's scary about agreeing with me?

I find that offensive. Which going by today's laws, makes your post a hate crime. You can go to prison for a hate crime.

me

[Crimson Dynamo]

me

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[bots]

i think it should be mandatory to post in it

[Maru]

All that untapped sexual tension has to go somewhere

[Crimson Dynamo]

All that untapped sexual tension has to go somewhere



:hehe:

[montblanc]

All that untapped sexual tension has to go somewhere

oh my

[Beso]

All that untapped sexual tension has to go somewhere

Ts can plop it in a hanky like lt does.

[Vicky.]

the forum would be a nicer place without ha!

Then just..don't read threads in there? :suspect:

I have no interest in sport, so i don't use that subforum. Chat and games is usually garbage, so i rarely use there. Would not call for them to be axed though.

[michael21]

Then just..don't read threads in there? :suspect:

I have no interest in sport, so i don't use that subforum. Chat and games is usually garbage, so i rarely use there. Would not call for them to be axed though.

I 100% agree with you Vicky

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9923343&postcount=30

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Then just..don't read threads in there? :suspect:

I have no interest in sport, so i don't use that subforum. Chat and games is usually garbage, so i rarely use there. Would not call for them to be axed though.

i don’t read the threads i actually have that forum on ignore but when someone has the AUDACITY to post a thread about some crackhead gouging her own eyes out in general chat because they are unable to post it in the usual place (SD)... that’s when it starts to affect me

https://i.imgur.com/37g4ewD.gif

[michael21]

i don’t read the threads i actually have that forum on ignore but when someone has the AUDACITY to post a thread about some crackhead gouging her own eyes out in general chat because they are unable to post it in the usual place (SD)... that’s when it starts to affect me

https://i.imgur.com/37g4ewD.gif

But you choose to view it no one made you your in control of what thread you view

If we closed section of the forum every time a member said there be no forum

[Brillopad]

the forum would be a nicer place without ha!

You don’t have to go in there. It’s not your place to decide what others can do.

[Vicky.]

i don’t read the threads i actually have that forum on ignore but when someone has the AUDACITY to post a thread about some crackhead gouging her own eyes out in general chat because they are unable to post it in the usual place (SD)... that’s when it starts to affect me

https://i.imgur.com/37g4ewD.gif

But then the issue is surely, general chat? If thats where the depressing posts are being posted :laugh:

[Withano]

I think there should be a separate subforum for politics. Thats where most of the anger is most of the time. Serious news and debates would be way tidier and way more thought provoking without the political threads. And then we can all affectionately name the politics subforum as 'tibbs lil hernia'.

[Vicky.]

I think there should be a separate subforum for politics. Thats where most of the anger is most of the time. Serious news and debates would be way tidier and way more thought provoking without the political threads. And then we can all affectionately name the politics subforum as 'tibbs lil hernia'.

I have said this for ages but it doesnt seem to be happening. I would ignore the politics forum I think. I hate how SD is always filled with politics rubbish, and even threads that are not about politics turn into thread about bloody politics.

[Jamie89]

I don't think I've ever even clicked into the sports subforum :skull:

[michael21]

I have said this for ages but it doesnt seem to be happening. I would ignore the politics forum I think. I hate how SD is always filled with politics rubbish, and even threads that are not about politics turn into thread about bloody politics.

Whispers stop talking about politics :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

No! I'm for the freedom of speech.

I agree with this for the most part.

I do think that people have got carried away on Politics lately, not just on TIBB but everywhere that I'm going it's all hell breaking loose to do with how the country is being run, I don't know if it's just the circles that I'm mixing in but it's definitely making people divided.

[Eddie.]

Axe ha! It just brings negativity to this forum and only certain members actually use it, and those have a tendency to end up banned/permabanned (no offence)...

[Mystic Mock]

Then just..don't read threads in there? :suspect:

I have no interest in sport, so i don't use that subforum. Chat and games is usually garbage, so i rarely use there. Would not call for them to be axed though.

You just need to find the right Sport, Vicky I think, it's my belief with anyone that can't get into Football, Rugby, Cricket etc that you just need to find a less mainstream Sport that you like.:)

To go back on-topic though I'm a casual reader of books so I don't post in there that often, it's all members have to do if they don't like a section so I agree with you Vicky.

[Underscore]

In my opinion, if you want to debate Politics properly, go on a Politics forum. There's plenty of them, some of which I use.

This forum is definitely more entertainment centred being a forum for Big Brother and other shows so I really don't see the need for a debating section.

That's just my two cents.

[Eddie.]

Yeah some active members rarely/don’t even post in the Big Brother sections, they are only here the Serious Debates section...

[Livia]

All the people who never show their face in SD and yet have such strong opinions... and those who only go in if there's a problem. The only problem with SD is unfair modding and only from one mod. And that's the cause of this whole current problem, in a nutshell.

[Cherie]

Yeah some active members rarely/don’t even post in the Big Brother sections, they are only here the Serious Debates section...

I don't see the issue there tbh, some active members only post in the Music section, most people originally posted in the BB sections but when they fell out of love with the show stayed on to post in other sections, if this was a BB/Chat forum it would be even more dead in off season than it is now

[Smithy]

All the people who never show their face in SD and yet have such strong opinions... and those who only go in if there's a problem. The only problem with SD is unfair modding and only from one mod. And that's the cause of this whole current problem, in a nutshell.

SD has the biggest clique mentality on the forum, you make one comment and it’s the same gang of people that attack you, I’m not surprised people don’t post in there

And if there was such an issue with one mod in particular, action would have been taken, but the fact is you don’t know who gives out infractions, warnings or bans, it’s all assumption

[Lostie!]

I don't see the issue there tbh, some active members only post in the Music section, most people originally posted in the BB sections but when they fell out of love with the show stayed on to post in other sections, if this was a BB/Chat forum it would be even more dead in off season than it is now

Tbh.

And let's not pretend getting rid of the debates section will suddenly eradicate all of the sniping that goes on. There's plenty in the chat area too which makes me feel less motivated to post there at times (one big problem on here is people using the chat thread to bitch about a confrontation they just had in another section, or even worse, about something they weren't even involved in).

I don't really use SN&D much and it definitely has its issues but I think it's definitely scapegoated a lot.

I also have an issue with the "use a politics forum" logic. Most forums I've seen have various sections far beyond the main area it was designed around and a section for news and serious discussions seems like a standard one. And if we were to get rid of sections because they're apparently irrelevant to Big Brother, Serious Debates certainly wouldn't be the only one to go.

[T*]

i would replace it with just a News section where stories are posted and they can be discussed but it’s not like random threads where they’re like ‘I hate women, discuss?’ where it just delves into a mess

[Cherie]

i would replace it with just a News section where stories are posted and they can be discussed but it’s not like random threads where they’re like ‘I hate women, discuss?’ where it just delves into a mess

Can you show me one of those pleas2?, generally threads are started off with a news item

[Cherie]

Tbh.

And let's not pretend getting rid of the debates section will suddenly eradicate all of the sniping that goes on. There's plenty in the chat area too which makes me feel less motivated to post there at times (one big problem on here is people using the chat thread to bitch about a confrontation they just had in another section, or even worse, about something they weren't even involved in).

I don't really use SN&D much and it definitely has its issues but I think it's definitely scapegoated a lot.

I also have an issue with the "use a politics forum" logic. Most forums I've seen have various sections far beyond the main area it was designed around and a section for news and serious discussions seems like a standard one. And if we were to get rid of sections because they're apparently irrelevant to Big Brother, Serious Debates certainly wouldn't be the only one to go.


An honest and reasoned post, there has been a lot of finger pointing going on, people in glass houses spring to mind, we are trying to address the problems in SD which are not all about bans btw, and hopefully it will be resolved so everyone is happy.

[Withano]

The issue is, people go on to the threads, take no interest in the topic, read through it a bit, see its turned in to a bit of a fight, and join in with the fighting/defending the ones fighting.

Its a new-ish issue. This thread was first made back when the main issue was that the subforum had tens of very similar threads by the same people, and the large bulk of the convos there was along the lines of “FREEDOM OF SPEECH U SNOWFLAKE” but thats not really a thing anymore. Its steadily improving imo.

[Withano]

I also have an issue with the "use a politics forum" logic.

A politics subforum as well as a SD&N subforum. But i floated that idea when (genuinely) about 70% of the forum was about Corbyn.

Its a bit less relevant now, but I still think breaking that forum into two different elements would help.

[Scarlett.]

I think news should be completely seperated from serious debates, like it used to be.

[Jordan.]

Put it in a social group of something, no one joins a low brow reality tv forum for a serious debate .

[Jordan.]

In my opinion, if you want to debate Politics properly, go on a Politics forum. There's plenty of them, some of which I use.

This forum is definitely more entertainment centred being a forum for Big Brother and other shows so I really don't see the need for a debating section.

That's just my two cents.

:clap1:

Literally no one joins this forum because of that section, it adds nothing to the site. I don't know why the admin/mods put themself through the drama of keeping it.

[T*]

Can you show me one of those pleas2?, generally threads are started off with a news item

i was being hyperbolic sis but go off

[T*]

and here, im not causing drama/taking issue with the thread but it’s an example of a thread that asks a question for a debate, they do exist unlike what you said http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336827

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i still think it needs to be axed bc i have it on ignore so it’s obviously not needed? if it was that important i would post in there all the time bc i’m the best member on the site

[Greg!]

No keep it I like it for the mess

[T*]

i still think it needs to be axed bc i have it on ignore so it’s obviously not needed? if it was that important i would post in there all the time bc i’m the best member on the site

thread closed here is the answer

[Underscore]

i still think it needs to be axed bc i have it on ignore so it’s obviously not needed? if it was that important i would post in there all the time bc i’m the best member on the site

how do u ignore a forum topic

[Cherie]

and here, im not causing drama/taking issue with the thread but it’s an example of a thread that asks a question for a debate, they do exist unlike what you said http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336827

That is not quite the same as I hate women, discuss,I didn't post in that particular topic, but if a forum member deems it worthy of discussing, so what? it seems to me there are a lot of people who never engage on that particular forum who have quite a lot to say about it, but they hate drama!

The nature of Debate is that people will argue their opinions, it's not called Serious Tea Party

[Cherie]

i still think it needs to be axed bc i have it on ignore so it’s obviously not needed? if it was that important i would post in there all the time bc i’m the best member on the site

This is true, however you need to consider the lessor beings and what keeps us happy, its how government works..

[Crimson Dynamo]

i still think it needs to be axed bc i have it on ignore so it’s obviously not needed? if it was that important i would post in there all the time bc i’m the best member on the site

this, for example,would need to be seriously debated

[Kazanne]

Why should it be culled ? most people calling for that don't even go in there.sometimes it's nice to have some adult talk,and threads with long posts and substance people don't have to come in there if they don't want to, I don't go in threads that don't interest me, I have also learnt a few things from SD,so no just because a few don't like it ,it shouldn't be spoilt for the ones that do,The forum would actually be a boring place off season if not for SD.

[Withano]

The nature of Debate is that people will argue their opinions, it's not called Serious Tea Party

You better pass me that marmalade so help me god

[Greg!]

That is not quite the same as I hate women, discuss,

It's called a hyperbole which is used for dramatic effect to make a point, he wasn't being literal x

[Nicky91]

i wanted to post more on SD because i wanted to show my serious side as well on here, but now this recent drama has put me off that part of the forum a bit

[Crimson Dynamo]

To be serious here for a moment I can understand why the young members dont like or understand it. I remember hating my dad watching the news when I was small as it was "boring"

I think once you have lived for a while and you have a house maybe some kids and a job "news" becomes more interesting as do politics - its roughly when you realise that people in power are actually total clueless dickeads just like yourself and it all gets a bit worrying

So younger members dont worry about SD as it will become more alluring when you get older.

:)

[kirklancaster]

Tbh.

And let's not pretend getting rid of the debates section will suddenly eradicate all of the sniping that goes on. There's plenty in the chat area too which makes me feel less motivated to post there at times (one big problem on here is people using the chat thread to bitch about a confrontation they just had in another section, or even worse, about something they weren't even involved in).

I don't really use SN&D much and it definitely has its issues but I think it's definitely scapegoated a lot.

I also have an issue with the "use a politics forum" logic. Most forums I've seen have various sections far beyond the main area it was designed around and a section for news and serious discussions seems like a standard one. And if we were to get rid of sections because they're apparently irrelevant to Big Brother, Serious Debates certainly wouldn't be the only one to go.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: A SERIOUSLY brilliant PERCEPTIVE post Lostie.

[kirklancaster]

To be serious here for a moment I can understand why the young members dont like or understand it. I remember hating my dad watching the news when I was small as it was "boring"

I think once you have lived for a while and you have a house maybe some kids and a job "news" becomes more interesting as do politics - its roughly when you realise that people in power are actually total clueless dickeads just like yourself and it all gets a bit worrying

So younger members dont worry about SD as it will become more alluring when you get older.

:)

Perfectly true L.T. - and WELCOME back.

[Eddie.]

Put it in a social group of something, no one joins a low brow reality tv forum for a serious debate .

:clap1:

[T*]

the only problem I have with it is that it pops up in my sidebar even on ignore and the cliqueism which is arguably the worse on here
there is a point about the forum being a reality tv/pop culture forum, it is juxtaposed onto here and it tries to make out it’s all serious but it ends up looking like a house of commons sat in the middle of a pride parade lmao

[caprimint]

i still think it needs to be axed bc i have it on ignore so it’s obviously not needed? if it was that important i would post in there all the time bc i’m the best member on the site
:joker:

[Brillopad]

the forum would be a nicer place without ha!


No - just keep out if it isn’t your cup of tea - simples!

[Beso]

No....plenty room for all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the only problem I have with it is that it pops up in my sidebar even on ignore and the cliqueism which is arguably the worse on here
there is a point about the forum being a reality tv/pop culture forum, it is juxtaposed onto here and it tries to make out it’s all serious but it ends up looking like a house of commons sat in the middle of a pride parade lmao

"it tries to make out it’s all serious "


Really, how does that work?

I dont get how you have so much to say about it when you have never made a thread in it or voiced an opinion there? Fear can lead to resentment and the way to conquer that fear is to take part?

[Withano]

Can I just say real quick that this whole ‘well you dont contribute to it, so what would you know’ thing a few of you have going on is bollocks

I barely ever post in the private forum, or the music forum, but I have a good understanding of the types of conversation that go on there, and the type of tone they have.

Not being part of the problem doesnt make you unqualified to discuss it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Can I just say real quick that this whole ‘well you dont contribute to it, so what would you know’ thing a few of you have going on is bollocks

I barely ever post in the private forum, or the music forum, but I have a good understanding of the types of conversation that go on there, and the type of tone they have.

Not being part of the problem doesnt make you unqualified to discuss it

that is nonsense as both those forums are self explanatory and have zero to do with the real life topics on SD such as politics, abortion, rape etc

the point stands and unless people participate and make threads i cant see how an opinion, other than one of prejudice, be properly formed

join in and then form a view

otherwise, stay in your lane

[arista]

the forum would be a nicer place without ha!


Scott
you need to Post on that section more.
Even Folks from around the World post on it.

No one has a Fecking GUN to your
head - saying read every thread..........................................



Life In The City

[Crimson Dynamo]

Scott
you need to Post on that section more.
Even Folks from around the World post on it.

No one has a Fecking GUN to your
head - saying read every thread..........................................



Life In The City

:clap1:


common sense

[arista]

the only problem I have with it is that it pops up in my sidebar even on ignore and the cliqueism which is arguably the worse on here
there is a point about the forum being a reality tv/pop culture forum, it is juxtaposed onto here and it tries to make out it’s all serious but it ends up looking like a house of commons sat in the middle of a pride parade lmao


how nice

[arista]

i wanted to post more on SD because i wanted to show my serious side as well on here, but now this recent drama has put me off that part of the forum a bit


But you are Learning
So all is good.

[Withano]

that is nonsense as both those forums are self explanatory and have zero to do with the real life topics on SD such as politics, abortion, rape etc

the point stands and unless people participate and make threads i cant see how an opinion, other than one of prejudice, be properly formed

join in and then form a view

otherwise, stay in your lane

The thread topic is ‘do you want to see the subforum axed’, you, Kaz, and Livia all decided that when it comes to this topic, only the ones who participate may form an opinion. Bollocks.

I’d argue its the opposite of this if anything, if people are actively avoiding the subforum for any reason, their perspective is just as relevant as yours. If not, more so.

(Obviously its not gonna be axed, its a discussion on a hypothetical, get off your high horse! You dont own imaginary scenarios).

[Cherie]

Can I just say real quick that this whole ‘well you dont contribute to it, so what would you know’ thing a few of you have going on is bollocks

I barely ever post in the private forum, or the music forum, but I have a good understanding of the types of conversation that go on there, and the type of tone they have.

Not being part of the problem doesnt make you unqualified to discuss it

Have you ever seen a member of SD go in to the chat thread when there is an issue and start posting what they can and can't do in there, the chat threads have been closed many times, I have never made it my business to get involved, and neither has anyone else from SD that doesn't post in their regularly, I have no interest, there seems to be massive interest in getting SD shut down, why is that ?

[Cherie]

The thread topic is ‘do you want to see the subforum axed’, you, Kaz, and Livia all decided that when it comes to this topic, only the ones who participate may form an opinion. Bollocks.

I’d argue its the opposite of this if anything, if people are actively avoiding the subforum for any reason, their perspective is just as relevant as yours. If not, more so.

(Obviously its not gonna be axed, its a discussion on a hypothetical, get off your high horse! You dont own imaginary scenarios).

Seriously though a lot of this I'm afraid to post my opinions in SD as it is too intimidating is utter claptrap! Arista is lovely

[Crimson Dynamo]

The thread topic is ‘do you want to see the subforum axed’, you, Kaz, and Livia all decided that when it comes to this topic, only the ones who participate may form an opinion. Bollocks.

I’d argue its the opposite of this if anything, if people are actively avoiding the subforum for any reason, their perspective is just as relevant as yours. If not, more so.

(Obviously its not gonna be axed, its a discussion on a hypothetical, get off your high horse! You dont own imaginary scenarios).

My advice stays, get involved and form an opinion, if not ignore.

I dont play any of the "games" on this site and frankly if they all stopped i could care less, but i know people like them and i know sometimes they cause drama


but I would never slate them or call for them to be axed.

[Withano]

Have you ever seen a member of SD go in to the chat thread when there is an issue and start posting what they can and can't do in there, the chat threads have been closed many times, I have never made it my business to get involved, and neither has anyone else from SD that doesn't post in their regularly, I have no interest, there seems to be massive interest in getting SD shut down, why is that ?

Well.. the only way to find out would be to ask these people, but a few of you lot are letting them know that their opinion seems irrelevant and rudely talking about them when, or if, they join in. So.

I’d imagine its comes across as angry and toxic, and not in line with the majority of the rest of the forum most of the time. But the ones who can help to clarify have probably been made to feel alienated, so probably wont do that.. so.

[Jordan.]

"You don't post in the section you can't comment!!!!"

Because it's not like you "serious debaters" squabbling like kids everyday is having any sort knock on affect on the rest of the forum is it.

[Kazanne]

The thread topic is ‘do you want to see the subforum axed’, you, Kaz, and Livia all decided that when it comes to this topic, only the ones who participate may form an opinion. Bollocks.

I’d argue its the opposite of this if anything, if people are actively avoiding the subforum for any reason, their perspective is just as relevant as yours. If not, more so.

(Obviously its not gonna be axed, its a discussion on a hypothetical, get off your high horse! You dont own imaginary scenarios).

Also that is a load of bollox ,NO one said that,I know I said those calling for a cull don't post in it,and some of them don't,NO ONE said only ones who participate can have an opinion,so stop trying to make out we are causing trouble.

[Withano]

Also that is a load of bollox ,NO one said that,I know I said those calling for a cull don't post in it,and some of them don't,NO ONE said only ones who participate can have an opinion,so stop trying to make out we are causing trouble.

Well, what was your point then? Why mention it. Of course nobody who posts in it regularly are gonna want it culled.. so what was the point in even saying the obvious if it wasnt to make a point?

Alsosometimes it's nice to have some adult talk,and threads with long posts and substancebull**** Kaz! Your intention was clear!

[Denver]

i still think it needs to be axed bc i have it on ignore so it’s obviously not needed? if it was that important i would post in there all the time bc i’m the best member on the site

So if you have it on ignore why does it matter if it stays or goes?

[Crimson Dynamo]

"You don't post in the section you can't comment!!!!"

Because it's not like you "serious debaters" squabbling like kids everyday is having any sort knock on affect on the rest of the forum is it.

you have made 5 threads this year

perhaps if you put more into the forum you would get more out as you seem to be very negative about Tibb all the time I have noticed recently

obviously if there are things going on in your private life i apoligise

[Kazanne]

Well, what was your point then? Why mention it. Of course nobody who posts in it regularly are gonna want it culled.. so what was the point in even saying the obvious if it wasnt to make a point?

Simply ,Why would it bother some people who don'treally use it so much they want it axed ? as Cherie said the chat threads have been the cause of bother etc lots of times,,but some of us don't go in there as it doesn't interest us and serious debates would be ok if people could take a differing opinion and be civil in their responses,even when it gets heated most adults can sort it out, I think some people just love the drama and keep trying to wind people up.

[Withano]

Simply ,Why would it bother some people who don'treally use it so much they want it axed ? as Cherie said the chat threads have been the cause of bother etc lots of times,,but some of us don't go in there as it doesn't interest us and serious debates would be ok if people could take a differing opinion and be civil in their responses,even when it gets heated most adults can sort it out, I think some people just love the drama and keep trying to wind people up.

..well maybe ask people why it bothers them instead of just reiterating that it shouldnt?

Christ, for a few ‘serious debaters’ you guys dont seem to want much of a 2-sided debate.

[Crimson Dynamo]

..well maybe ask people why it bothers them instead of just reiterating that it shouldnt?

Christ, for a few ‘serious debaters’ you guys dont seem to want much of a 2-sided debate.

stop baiting or this thread will end up being closed as well :nono:

[Beso]

..well maybe ask people why it bothers them instead of just reiterating that it shouldnt?

Christ, for a few ‘serious debaters’ you guys dont seem to want much of a 2-sided debate.

Some would probably be infracted for debating in the suggestions forum.

[Withano]

stop baiting or this thread will end up being closed as well :nono:

I agree. Stop your baiting. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on whether a subforum should be axed, regardless of how much they use it. So lets stop saying **** like that so we can discuss it properly.

[Jordan.]

you have made 5 threads this year

perhaps if you put more into the forum you would get more out as you seem to be very negative about Tibb all the time I have noticed recently

obviously if there are things going on in your private life i apoligise

Sorry to disappoint but posting on this forum isn't my be all and end all like it seems to be for you. Probably why I can laugh it off when a mod deletes my posts instead of throwing tantrums and starting witch hunts.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sorry to disappoint but posting on this forum isn't my be all and end all like it seems to be for you. Probably why I can laugh it off when a mod deletes my posts instead of throwing tantrums and starting witch hunts.

Yes this is what i mean (bit in bold) you tried this tac yesterday with another member. I am not sure why you are so angry about this?

:shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I agree. Stop your baiting. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on whether a subforum should be axed, regardless of how much they use it. So lets stop saying **** like that so we can discuss it properly.

Lol

Can you imagine going into the music forum to say that the latest lady Gaga song is crap

"wait when did you hear it?"

me: "I havent but dont shut down my opinion"


er


no

[Smithy]

Lol

Can you imagine going into the music forum to say that the latest lady Gaga song is crap

"wait when did you hear it?"

me: "I havent but dont shut down my opinion"


er


no

You literally post this tho

[Withano]

Lol

Can you imagine going into the music forum to say that the latest lady Gaga song is crap

"wait when did you hear it?"

me: "I havent but dont shut down my opinion"


er


no

Thats not quite an accurate parallel to whats happening.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thats not quite an accurate parallel to whats happening.

i was pretty pleased with it tbh :smug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

You literally post this tho

shhhhh

[Cherie]

You literally post this tho

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

trust Smithy to bust me

:oh:

[Kazanne]

..well maybe ask people why it bothers them instead of just reiterating that it shouldnt?

Christ, for a few ‘serious debaters’ you guys dont seem to want much of a 2-sided debate.

I did ask,hence the use of the word WHY,Christ you are not getting annoyed are you,lets debate like adults.

[Jordan.]

Yes this is what i mean (bit in bold) you tried this tac yesterday with another member. I am not sure why you are so angry about this?

:shrug:

That was angry? Sorry I forgot you were a bit fragile when people oppose your views, don't do another one of those silent protests on us :worry:

[Withano]

I did ask,hence the use of the word WHY,Christ you are not getting annoyed are you,lets debate like adults.

:joker: ok kaz, you were super polite and inquisitive.

[jet]

Can I sum it up for the SD closer - downers:

"I don't like SD and want it axed but I go into it all the time to see whats going on, especially when there is a juicy argument". :think:

[Crimson Dynamo]

That was angry? Sorry I forgot you were a bit fragile when people oppose your views, don't do another one of those silent protests on us :worry:

You would not know as you dont use SD


I am sure the robust fellows of SD would welcome you into their bosom

:clap1:

any more recruits want to follow Jordan's lead?

[Kizzy]

I think it does rather open the floodgates to pointless political arguments, which a lot of the time can create more personal insults than most topics, but at the same time, the topics would just end up being somewhere else and in fairness, if people can't be mature enough to listen to other people's opinions than actually listening to another side of an argument and instead act like mentally challanged children, then at least the SD section is keeping them off the streets.

How rude :/

If in chat and games they spoke of anything deeper than their love for the latest meme it might draw out some genuine resonance towards a topic.

Look at politics in the UK at the moment there are personal insults, backbiting, infighting and spin ... why would here be any different?
The issues we see on the news that are brought here for debate will create a degree of polarisation due to our personal life experiences, occasionally that can create a distinct division as is seen in wider society, we are a cross section here too so why would we have to be held to a higher standard?

Mocking people for attempting to tackle contemporary issues serves no purpose, I am not infallible and occasionally become frustrated I make no apologies for that, personally I find it helps to come here and voice my feelings on current affairs it's a form of escapism.
It's disconcerting to see that your thoughts and feelings are being denigrated to nothing but the ravings of the demented.

It may not always be rational, that is the nature of debate occasionally, I would never purposefully set out to offend or insult anyone, but I can't hand on heart say I've not expressed an opinion that I know will prove controversial... What's the alternative, compromise my principles?

I appreciate there are those who are feeling exactly the same, I also appreciate there are those whose sole purpose it to troll, it's possible to avoid these posters to maintain a thread topic but not always.
That said I see this as nothing more than a thread started to maintain the drama that recent threads created and had no initial positive intent anyway IMO however I felt it necessary to attempt to give a reasoned view based on my opinion as a regular contributor to SD.

[Crimson Dynamo]

How rude :/

If in chat and games they spoke of anything deeper than their love for the latest meme it might draw out some genuine resonance towards a topic.

Look at politics in the UK at the moment there are personal insults, backbiting, infighting and spin ... why would here be any different?
The issues we see on the news that are brought here for debate will create a degree of polarisation due to our personal life experiences, occasionally that can create a distinct division as is seen in wider society, we are a cross section here too so why would we have to be held to a higher standard?

Mocking people for attempting to tackle contemporary issues serves no purpose, I am not infallible and occasionally become frustrated I make no apologies for that, personally I find it helps to come here and voice my feelings on current affairs it's a form of escapism.
It's disconcerting to see that your thoughts and feelings are being denigrated to nothing but the ravings of the demented.

It may not always be rational, that is the nature of debate occasionally, I would never purposefully set out to offend or insult anyone, but I can't hand on heart say I've not expressed an opinion that I know will prove controversial... What's the alternative, compromise my principles?

I appreciate there are those who are feeling exactly the same, I also appreciate there are those whose sole purpose it to troll, it's possible to avoid these posters to maintain a thread topic but not always.
That said I see this as nothing more than a thread started to maintain the drama that recent threads created and had no initial positive intent anyway. IMO but I felt it necessary to attempt to give a reasoned view based on my opinion as a regular contributor to SD.

:clap1:

and shame on you Rob for such a disgusting line as " instead act like mentally challenged children"

:umm2:

[Cherie]

How rude :/

If in chat and games they spoke of anything deeper than their love for the latest meme it might draw out some genuine resonance towards a topic.

Look at politics in the UK at the moment there are personal insults, backbiting, infighting and spin ... why would here be any different?
The issues we see on the news that are brought here for debate will create a degree of polarisation due to our personal life experiences, occasionally that can create a distinct division as is seen in wider society, we are a cross section here too so why would we have to be held to a higher standard?

Mocking people for attempting to tackle contemporary issues serves no purpose, I am not infallible and occasionally become frustrated I make no apologies for that, personally I find it helps to come here and voice my feelings on current affairs it's a form of escapism.
It's disconcerting to see that your thoughts and feelings are being denigrated to nothing but the ravings of the demented.

It may not always be rational, that is the nature of debate occasionally, I would never purposefully set out to offend or insult anyone, but I can't hand on heart say I've not expressed an opinion that I know will prove controversial... What's the alternative, compromise my principles?

I appreciate there are those who are feeling exactly the same, I also appreciate there are those whose sole purpose it to troll, it's possible to avoid these posters to maintain a thread topic but not always.
That said I see this as nothing more than a thread started to maintain the drama that recent threads created and had no initial positive intent anyway IMO however I felt it necessary to attempt to give a reasoned view based on my opinion as a regular contributor to SD.


Great post Kizzy

[Cherie]

I did ask,hence the use of the word WHY,Christ you are not getting annoyed are you,lets debate like adults.

:clap2:

[kirklancaster]

How rude :/

If in chat and games they spoke of anything deeper than their love for the latest meme it might draw out some genuine resonance towards a topic.

Look at politics in the UK at the moment there are personal insults, backbiting, infighting and spin ... why would here be any different?
The issues we see on the news that are brought here for debate will create a degree of polarisation due to our personal life experiences, occasionally that can create a distinct division as is seen in wider society, we are a cross section here too so why would we have to be held to a higher standard?

Mocking people for attempting to tackle contemporary issues serves no purpose, I am not infallible and occasionally become frustrated I make no apologies for that, personally I find it helps to come here and voice my feelings on current affairs it's a form of escapism.
It's disconcerting to see that your thoughts and feelings are being denigrated to nothing but the ravings of the demented.

It may not always be rational, that is the nature of debate occasionally, I would never purposefully set out to offend or insult anyone, but I can't hand on heart say I've not expressed an opinion that I know will prove controversial... What's the alternative, compromise my principles?

I appreciate there are those who are feeling exactly the same, I also appreciate there are those whose sole purpose it to troll, it's possible to avoid these posters to maintain a thread topic but not always.
That said I see this as nothing more than a thread started to maintain the drama that recent threads created and had no initial positive intent anyway IMO however I felt it necessary to attempt to give a reasoned view based on my opinion as a regular contributor to SD.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Kizzy]

Aw thanks you guys!
https://31.media.tumblr.com/fba110fae4b642a968df40b7c1cec8d7/tumblr_nijryycRXx1qlgbzbo6_500.gif

:joker: ... Maybe we are the forum mafia, you feck with one of us you feck with all of us!

[Crimson Dynamo]

knitting club

fck with one

fck with ALL

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/292/072/076.png

[jet]

Aw thanks you guys!
https://31.media.tumblr.com/fba110fae4b642a968df40b7c1cec8d7/tumblr_nijryycRXx1qlgbzbo6_500.gif

:joker: ... Maybe we are the forum mafia, you feck with one of us you feck with all of us!

Credit where credits due. It was a great post kizzy. :clap1:

[Kizzy]

knitting club

fck with one

fck with ALL

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/292/072/076.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5EogqKUoAAbSbN.jpg

[AnnieK]

Lol....a thread about scrapping SDs brings all sides of the debates together. Harmony :love:

[Maru]

https://i.imgur.com/ym3qWju.jpg

[Babayaro.]

Classic TiBB. :flutter:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Classic TiBB. :flutter:

yep

a massive hot mess

a ban fest


some hugging


and nowt changes


:flutter:

[Cherie]

The Chat thread is SHOOK

[montblanc]

no it's a scream

[kirklancaster]

Aw thanks you guys!
https://31.media.tumblr.com/fba110fae4b642a968df40b7c1cec8d7/tumblr_nijryycRXx1qlgbzbo6_500.gif

:joker: ... Maybe we are the forum mafia, you feck with one of us you feck with all of us!

:joker: Maybe we really ARE underneath it all.

[kirklancaster]

knitting club

fck with one

fck with ALL

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/292/072/076.png

:joker: If you are IN the club does that make you the Knit-Wit L.T.? :hee:

[Cherie]

:joker: If you are IN the club does that make you the Knit-Wit L.T.? :hee:

:laugh: an SD rebrand

The Knit wits ?

[Brillopad]

Sorry to disappoint but posting on this forum isn't my be all and end all like it seems to be for you. Probably why I can laugh it off when a mod deletes my posts instead of throwing tantrums and starting witch hunts.

Says someone who knows NOTHING of what went on. It would help to know what happened to cause such issues before making ill-informed comments. :rolleyes:

[Brillopad]

Simply ,Why would it bother some people who don'treally use it so much they want it axed ? as Cherie said the chat threads have been the cause of bother etc lots of times,,but some of us don't go in there as it doesn't interest us and serious debates would be ok if people could take a differing opinion and be civil in their responses,even when it gets heated most adults can sort it out, I think some people just love the drama and keep trying to wind people up.

Exactly! :thumbs:

[Maru]

https://media.giphy.com/media/26tk0Fb2UyQY6OsWQ/giphy.gif

[Mystic Mock]

Lol

Can you imagine going into the music forum to say that the latest lady Gaga song is crap

"wait when did you hear it?"

me: "I havent but dont shut down my opinion"


er


no

The people that are complaining about SD I'm assuming have read some of the posts on there and are not liking how toxic it can get on that section of the Forum.

I wouldn't want SD axed personally, I agree with Michael21 that we should be adding more sections to the Forum, not losing them. But I have noticed recently that a SD thread can't happen without personal insults being flung at each other very often.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The people that are complaining about SD I'm assuming have read some of the posts on there and are not liking how toxic it can get on that section of the Forum.

I wouldn't want SD axed personally, I agree with Michael21 that we should be adding more sections to the Forum, not losing them. But I have noticed recently that a SD thread can't happen without personal insults being flung at each other very often.

there are very few personal insults by members, if any are made they are quickly reported and infractions handed out

[Mystic Mock]

there are very few personal insults by members, if any are made they are quickly reported and infractions handed out

Which I think is sad though as the Forum is struggling for activity at the moment, and we're seeing good members who contribute alot to the Forum getting themselves into trouble when all that needs to be done is be reasonably civil about each other's opinions.

[kirklancaster]

:laugh: an SD rebrand

The Knit wits ?

:joker:

[kirklancaster]

https://media.giphy.com/media/26tk0Fb2UyQY6OsWQ/giphy.gif

:joker:

[Ammi]

...Serious Debates, Procrastiknitting and News Stories...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Which I think is sad though as the Forum is struggling for activity at the moment, and we're seeing good members who contribute alot to the Forum getting themselves into trouble when all that needs to be done is be reasonably civil about each other's opinions.

yes but Mock what you and many on here dont understand is that a lot of infractions are for "baiting" or "trolling" or other generic and non specific things

what is baiting, what is trolling? - half the infractions i get are for me being ironic or perhaps playing devils advocate and frankly you need a bit of that in a debate where a lot of people take themselves a little too seriously

its an opinion and often it is felt that this type of infraction is used nefariously. ie you are in a debate with a mod and say you infuriate them by perhaps exposing a lack of evidence in their argument or maybe just by having a difference of opinion and then hey presto you get a ban/infraction for a non specific thing and you are like :suspicious:


Also if you make a lot of threads I think you get penialised when actually you should be rewarded. In SD if you make a thread about say a rape, abortion or death penalty using a news story you will, on page one, be attacked and in some ways will be held accountable for the article when you did not write or research it. as the OP people who say have strong feelings about the subject latch onto you as the OP and vent at you and thus one can get defensive and you open yourself up to being reported - also just by opening lots of threads you open yourself up, by default, to more reports.


People go on about "just stick to the rules" but if the rules can be interpreted to suit its hard - especially if all the active Mods have left leaning liberal sympathies and also its easy to say this if

1. you make no threads

2. you make like 5 posts a day in chat


I think we all know its not easy to moderate but its not as simple as "just sticks to the rules"


:)

[thesheriff443]

...Serious Debates, Procrastiknitting and News Stories...

Cross stitch is very popular.

[Brillopad]

yes but Mock what you and many on here dont understand is that a lot of infractions are for "baiting" or "trolling" or other generic and non specific things

what is baiting, what is trolling? - half the infractions i get are for me being ironic or perhaps playing devils advocate and frankly you need a bit of that in a debate where a lot of people take themselves a little too seriously

its an opinion and often it is felt that this type of infraction is used nefariously. ie you are in a debate with a mod and say you infuriate them by perhaps exposing a lack of evidence in their argument or maybe just by having a difference of opinion and then hey presto you get a ban/infraction for a non specific thing and you are like :suspicious:


Also if you make a lot of threads I think you get penialised when actually you should be rewarded. In SD if you make a thread about say a rape, abortion or death penalty using a news story you will, on page one, be attacked and in some ways will be held accountable for the article when you did not write or research it. as the OP people who say have strong feelings about the subject latch onto you as the OP and vent at you and thus one can get defensive and you open yourself up to being reported - also just by opening lots of threads you open yourself up, by default, to more reports.


People go on about "just stick to the rules" but if the rules can be interpreted to suit its hard - especially if all the active Mods have left leaning liberal sympathies and also its easy to say this if

1. you make no threads

2. you make like 5 posts a day in chat


I think we all know its not easy to moderate but its not as simple as "just sticks to the rules"


:)

Well said LT. :thumbs:

[Mystic Mock]

yes but Mock what you and many on here dont understand is that a lot of infractions are for "baiting" or "trolling" or other generic and non specific things

what is baiting, what is trolling? - half the infractions i get are for me being ironic or perhaps playing devils advocate and frankly you need a bit of that in a debate where a lot of people take themselves a little too seriously

its an opinion and often it is felt that this type of infraction is used nefariously. ie you are in a debate with a mod and say you infuriate them by perhaps exposing a lack of evidence in their argument or maybe just by having a difference of opinion and then hey presto you get a ban/infraction for a non specific thing and you are like :suspicious:


Also if you make a lot of threads I think you get penialised when actually you should be rewarded. In SD if you make a thread about say a rape, abortion or death penalty using a news story you will, on page one, be attacked and in some ways will be held accountable for the article when you did not write or research it. as the OP people who say have strong feelings about the subject latch onto you as the OP and vent at you and thus one can get defensive and you open yourself up to being reported - also just by opening lots of threads you open yourself up, by default, to more reports.


People go on about "just stick to the rules" but if the rules can be interpreted to suit its hard - especially if all the active Mods have left leaning liberal sympathies and also its easy to say this if

1. you make no threads

2. you make like 5 posts a day in chat


I think we all know its not easy to moderate but its not as simple as "just sticks to the rules"


:)

I think that we've all had infractions sometimes from Moderators where we're like "how am I being punished when I did nothing wrong!?" sort of moment, but I do think that SD has got to be the hardest section of the Forum to Moderate as alot of opinions on there are extremely controversial and the rules need to be made more clear on what kind of posts are acceptable or not as I do think that your posts in particular can be borderline which means that individual Moderators will just go with their own personal opinion of the post rather than set rules.

[Brillopad]

I think that we've all had infractions sometimes from Moderators where we're like "how am I being punished when I did nothing wrong!?" sort of moment, but I do think that SD has got to be the hardest section of the Forum to Moderate as alot of opinions on there are extremely controversial and the rules need to be made more clear on what kind of posts are acceptable or not as I do think that your posts in particular can be borderline which means that individual Moderators will just go with their own personal opinion of the post rather than set rules.

The occasional ‘slip’ is one thing but persistent ‘slips’ are another thing altogether which has been more the issue.