View Full Version : If ageing was 'cured'
Jamie89
19-03-2018, 11:30 AM
Do you think it would be a good thing?
This man is developing therapies "that will repair the damage that the body does to itself throughout life. He believes that ageing can be treated as a disease that can be cured." And he thinks that his treatments will enable people living today to live past 1000 years old :shocked:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-43402894/aubrey-de-grey-treating-ageing-as-a-curable-disease
He actually makes some good points for it imo in terms of morality.
Aubrey de grey.....lol..parmy checks date...nope its not the 1st yet...i will read it now....ps.
Niamh.
19-03-2018, 11:36 AM
I don't think the earth could sustain all the people if we lived to 1000, unless no one was allowed have kids. It would probably end up being only the rich and powerful allowed have them or some s**t
Jamie89
19-03-2018, 11:39 AM
I don't think the earth could sustain all the people if we lived to 1000, unless no one was allowed have kids. It would probably end up being only the rich and powerful allowed have them or some s**t
That's the biggest problem with it I think. Unless within the next thousand years we manage to make other planets habitable :think:
smudgie
19-03-2018, 11:40 AM
No.
Just where are all these old fogies meant to live, where is all the money coming from to keep them..and us?
The planet is far too small for us to live to that age.
I would be all for a cure for arthritis so that the elderly could have a better quality of life, spend the cash on that rather than living to some ridiculous age.
there is no reason why we shouldn't start colonising other planets. Go forth and multiply I say :cheer2:
there is no reason why we shouldn't start colonising other planets. Go forth and multiply I say :cheer2:
Imo...thats what we did on this one.
Crimson Dynamo
19-03-2018, 01:41 PM
I am already sick of life and i am only 38
reece(:
19-03-2018, 01:42 PM
Here for living to the year 3000 :clap1:
hijaxers
19-03-2018, 01:49 PM
Yukk no ! The thought of what the Tories will do to people in the next year scares me , no thanks i'll just die whenever.
I am already sick of life and i am only 38
You are full of the gags today :joker:
Kizzy
19-03-2018, 01:56 PM
Yukk no ! The thought of what the Tories will do to people in the next year scares me , no thanks i'll just die whenever.
:joker::joker:
Actually this.
Tom4784
19-03-2018, 01:56 PM
It would inevitably be something that would only be available to the richest of people if this was a thing. Kinda like an Altered Carbon sort of deal. I'd definitely go for it, if given the choice.
I am already sick of life and i am only 38
*68
Let's not tell porkies, LT!
His beard holds all life's secrets
https://i.imgur.com/wahKbpi.png
Crimson Dynamo
19-03-2018, 03:17 PM
His beard holds all life's secrets
https://i.imgur.com/wahKbpi.png
and most of his lunch...
Jamie89
19-03-2018, 03:22 PM
Here for living to the year 3000 :clap1:
I'm ready to submit to our robot overlords :clap1:
His beard holds all life's secrets
https://i.imgur.com/wahKbpi.png
and most of his lunch...
:joker:
Jamie89
19-03-2018, 03:26 PM
I think I would be in favour of it, the only thing that I'd worry about is how we'd all survive if it was something that happened soon. But then that's not a reason to prevent elderly people receiving medical treatment :think: So I don't know. And it's not as though it's an immortality thing, people would still die.
How many people die of old age ... its really not that many
Jamie89
19-03-2018, 03:43 PM
How many people die of old age ... its really not that many
That's true as well. And whatever the percentage is it would keep getting lower the higher the age, so it'd probably only be a very small number of people that actually reached the thousands (and beyond)
jaxie
19-03-2018, 04:55 PM
I read a really good book about this kind of thing once written for the young adult market where people took a pill and just lived on and on though they did still age physically in a way sort of dried out. Because it wasn't sustainable you weren't allowed to have children and any children born were called surplus and put in insritutions. It painted a dark and horrible picture of the idea.
Vicky.
19-03-2018, 05:18 PM
The only way we could do this is to bar everyone from having kids.
I cannot think of anything worse than living forever, unless they also find a cure for my illness at the same time.
Niamh.
19-03-2018, 06:38 PM
I read a really good book about this kind of thing once written for the young adult market where people took a pill and just lived on and on though they did still age physically in a way sort of dried out. Because it wasn't sustainable you weren't allowed to have children and any children born were called surplus and put in insritutions. It painted a dark and horrible picture of the idea.There was a Torchwood episode as well where no one could die and it was chaos
Tozzie
19-03-2018, 06:39 PM
I am already sick of life and i am only 38
I'm sick of life too but yet I don't wanna die, explain that!
Tozzie
19-03-2018, 06:40 PM
nar, the world would become overpopulated but if they can halt if for a couple hundred years and keep me youngish looking, that will be good :laugh:
y.winter
19-03-2018, 07:02 PM
1000? hell no.
It will get really boring. What can surprise you after the age of 100? how much would you actually care?
Jamie89
19-03-2018, 07:19 PM
1000? hell no.
It will get really boring. What can surprise you after the age of 100? how much would you actually care?
Big Brother 1001, android-Deana winning the Cyborg Allstars. Probably other stuff might happen too :laugh:
..so ‘I recall back in the day’...would become..’crikey, I can’t recall that far back, that was 900 years ago..’...it would be like those time travel movies...(..unless it was available to all..)...in having to feel the emotional pain of losing so many people that you loved...emotional pain is a huge thing of ‘aging’ as well, I think...so it would be ‘fighting’ that also....and it would be hard../...well impossible maybe...to plan for the future financially etc...when the future would be so endless...interesting though, if it were possible for all....
thesheriff443
20-03-2018, 06:07 AM
There was a Torchwood episode as well where no one could die and it was chaos
Did you know torchwood is an anagram of doctor who.
thesheriff443
20-03-2018, 06:10 AM
posters never die on tibb, they just get bumped.
Cherie
20-03-2018, 07:16 AM
No, what would happen to the Circle of Life (an not just the Elton John song :hehe:), people being kept alive because of medical advancements is part of the problem we have at the moment, average life expectancy has gone up and while I am glad it is no longer 47 or something ridiculous like that I think mid 80s is about right
...I guess on a plus thing...student loans../education costs, wouldn’t be such a worry...right, we’ll just repay £30 per year then, I’ll transfer that now...
Jamie89
20-03-2018, 08:21 AM
No, what would happen to the Circle of Life (an not just the Elton John song :hehe:), people being kept alive because of medical advancements is part of the problem we have at the moment, average life expectancy has gone up and while I am glad it is no longer 47 or something ridiculous like that I think mid 80s is about rightMost people would still die though, like bots said how many people actually dies from old age? And the likelihood of diseases/accidents etc happening would only increase the older people get.
I think pensions would be an interesting one, we couldn't really have people working for 70 years then retiring for 900 [emoji23] maybe it would be something where you'd have 70 on and 30 off every century you're alive :think:
Cherie
20-03-2018, 09:34 AM
Most people would still die though, like bots said how many people actually dies from old age? And the likelihood of diseases/accidents etc happening would only increase the older people get.
I think pensions would be an interesting one, we couldn't really have people working for 70 years then retiring for 900 [emoji23] maybe it would be something where you'd have 70 on and 30 off every century you're alive :think:
but isn't that part of why the NHS is so over stretched at the moment, all those hip ops...:laugh:
Jamie89
20-03-2018, 09:41 AM
but isn't that part of why the NHS is so over stretched at the moment, all those hip ops...:laugh:
Hmm, probably. But then if everyone worked an extra few hundred years before retiring we'd have more NHS workers so it might even out :laugh:
Mystic Mock
20-03-2018, 02:58 PM
I'm selfish and would take it.:laugh:
AnnieK
20-03-2018, 03:06 PM
Can't think of anything worse - I'm already constantly exhausted :laugh: How the hell I would fair at 900 is beyond me
...I guess on a plus thing...student loans../education costs, wouldn’t be such a worry...right, we’ll just repay £30 per year then, I’ll transfer that now...
:joker:
kirklancaster
20-03-2018, 08:10 PM
I am already sick of life and i am only 38
:laugh:
Wizard.
20-03-2018, 08:11 PM
I don't think the earth could sustain all the people if we lived to 1000, unless no one was allowed have kids. It would probably end up being only the rich and powerful allowed have them or some s**t
Only skinny attractive people
kirklancaster
20-03-2018, 08:12 PM
...I guess on a plus thing...student loans../education costs, wouldn’t be such a worry...right, we’ll just repay £30 per year then, I’ll transfer that now...
:laugh: But how nice would a 950 year Capital Repayment mortgage be Ammi? :hehe:
Those billion year contracts that some Scientologists are forced to sign might actually mean something now...
Brillopad
21-03-2018, 07:16 AM
Do you think it would be a good thing?
This man is developing therapies "that will repair the damage that the body does to itself throughout life. He believes that ageing can be treated as a disease that can be cured." And he thinks that his treatments will enable people living today to live past 1000 years old :shocked:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-43402894/aubrey-de-grey-treating-ageing-as-a-curable-disease
He actually makes some good points for it imo in terms of morality.
I believe that Mother Nature has a reasoning behind everything she does. The world is over-crowded with people starving in many parts of the world and things are getting worse.
Human beings were not designed to live that long for a reason - with a lack of sufficient resources such as food etc a major factor. It isn’t meant to be and would cause far more problems for the world and the human race.
kirklancaster
21-03-2018, 07:43 AM
Did you know torchwood is an anagram of doctor who.
I'm usually very perceptive with this kind of thing, but I did not know that.
I do now. Thanks.
Crimson Dynamo
21-03-2018, 08:04 AM
we need to stop people being born in places like Africa and India more
Livia
21-03-2018, 10:36 AM
It would be a bad thing. We're already overpopulated and struggling to feed and house people. Imagine what it'll be like in 100 years when the whole works is like a shanty town. Add to that people living forever.... sounds like hell on earth.
kirklancaster
21-03-2018, 11:10 AM
but isn't that part of why the NHS is so over stretched at the moment, all those hip ops...:laugh:
:laugh:
kirklancaster
21-03-2018, 11:13 AM
It would be a bad thing. We're already overpopulated and struggling to feed and house people. Imagine what it'll be like in 100 years when the whole works is like a shanty town. Add to that people living forever.... sounds like hell on earth.
I want to be here when Man colonizes other worlds. When cures are found for Cancer and other terrible diseases and when Peaceful Co-Existence of ALL Mankind is finally the 'Norm'.
Am I just a dreamer? :hehe:
Twosugars
21-03-2018, 11:39 AM
I'd like to be able to hibernate, nice long sleep for a few days or months whenever I feel like it
Kazanne
21-03-2018, 12:16 PM
I want to be here when Man colonizes other worlds. When cures are found for Cancer and other terrible diseases and when Peaceful Co-Existence of ALL Mankind is finally the 'Norm'.
Am I just a dreamer? :hehe:
Yes,sadly I think so Kirk, I think the co-existence of all mankind is more unlikely than colonizing other worlds, I think we will eventually destroy this planet and probably take ourselves with it. We have polluted the air and the seas,we have killed animals so much so some of them are on the brink of extinction ,we dabble with mother nature too much and I am leaning towards the thought of there may already be a cure for cancer,but not quite convinced yet.I don't think I would want to live indefinitely.
Toy Soldier
21-03-2018, 12:36 PM
..so ‘I recall back in the day’...would become..’crikey, I can’t recall that far back, that was 900 years ago..’...it would be like those time travel movies...(..unless it was available to all..)...in having to feel the emotional pain of losing so many people that you loved...emotional pain is a huge thing of ‘aging’ as well, I think...so it would be ‘fighting’ that also....and it would be hard../...well impossible maybe...to plan for the future financially etc...when the future would be so endless...interesting though, if it were possible for all....
This is as well/... I doubt the human memory has the capacity to remember things that far back. So most likely, every few hundred years you would realise that you couldn't remember anything about your life 300+ years earlier other than major events.
(They also cover this in Doctor Who with Aria Stark's character... who is immortal but still human... when he meets her thousands of years after the start of her immortality, she has thousands of journals of her life because she can't actually remember most of it, and doesn't even consider herself to be the same person)
Also, whilst theoretically disease shouldn't be a thing (because if there's a technology that can alter biology to the extent that it would halt aging, it would presumably cure most if not all disease, and certainly the "big killers" like cancer)... I'd imagine that you would have to live a very careful life in order not to die in an accident within, say, 500 years.
In practical terms it would have to go hand-in-hand with a very strict limit on the number of children you can have or we'd be multiplying even faster than we already are. Maybe if the "immortality process" also makes you sterile? :think:
ALSO... I don't think I would want to live forever / for thousands of years. Maybe 200 - 300 might be nice but not forever. Guess it would be good if you could "turn off" your immortality when you want to? Hmmm. Or I guess you could just jump off a bridge...
Livia
21-03-2018, 01:21 PM
I want to be here when Man colonizes other worlds. When cures are found for Cancer and other terrible diseases and when Peaceful Co-Existence of ALL Mankind is finally the 'Norm'.
Am I just a dreamer? :hehe:
Well, humans are destructive, vindictive and territorial. I doubt we could ever live completely in peace. As for the life-saving treatments for all terrible diseases, yes, I would love that... but we have to sort out the problem of over-population because right now, nature is trying to get rid of the destructive virus - us - that is killing the planet and we're taking every step we can to counter that. Consequently we're all living longer and occupying the earth longer while the birth rate is still climbing. It's a bleak look into the future.
RichardG
21-03-2018, 01:54 PM
if they don't cure ageing i hope i die a swift painless death from some freak accident around 40 or so. i see my dad struggling to walk from really severe rheumatoid arthritis, i saw my grandad slowly suffocate to death from pulmonary fibrosis (a consequence of his RA, something i'm probably gonna end up getting - seems it runs in the family!). i don't want any of that in my future. :worry: i want to die healthy and happy and skinny and pain free!
Well aubreys obviously had a head start.
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137307
y.winter
22-03-2018, 04:57 PM
Big Brother 1001, android-Deana winning the Cyborg Allstars. Probably other stuff might happen too :laugh:
Where do I sign? :laugh:
Oliver_W
22-03-2018, 05:13 PM
Living over a hundred or so years isn't really a good thing.
A good and more "realistic" version of this might be if someone had a normal/slightly extended lifespan, and physically aged at like 1/10 of what they would normally, so they'd just appear to be middle aged at 80, but could still possibly die ... if that makes sense?
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