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Maru
24-03-2018, 08:46 PM
I was reading a story about the side effects of male contraceptives and saw a link to this. I'm not surprised medications are effecting the ecosystem. A lot of folk flush medications down the toilet and don't really think about effect on our water table. I personally have terrible reactions to pill form birth control anyway, so they're evil in my book :laugh:...

Someone once told me you could mix medication with coffee grounds and supposedly can dispose of them safely (into the trash)?... not sure I trust that method. I usually take it to a pharmacy and just let them dispose of it properly.

We don't have male contraceptive pills in the US.

Fish becoming transgender from contraceptive pill chemicals being flushed down household drains
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/02/fish-becoming-transgender-contraceptive-pill-chemicals-flushed/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/09/28/pill_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq0UhoV7p1ULASo075cpE22mBKPRP Z2DQqY40BeeiLoCk.jpg?imwidth=450

A fifth of male fish are now transgender because of chemicals from the contraceptive pill being flushed down household drains, a study by has suggested.

Male river fish are displaying feminised traits and even producing eggs, the study found. Some have reduced sperm quality and display less aggressive and competitive behaviour, which makes them less likely to breed successfully.

The chemicals causing these effects include ingredients in the contraceptive pill, by-products of cleaning agents, plastics and cosmetics, according to the findings.

"Many other chemicals that are discharged through sewage treatment works can affect fish, including antidepressant drugs that reduce the natural shyness of some fish species"Professor Charles Tyler

Professor Charles Tyler, of the University of Exeter, is to present his findings in a key-note lecture at a symposium this week. He will explain that the offspring of such "transgender" or "intersex" fish can also be more sensitive to the effects of these chemicals in subsequent exposures.

Professor Tyler said: "We are showing that some of these chemicals can have much wider health effects on fish that we expected.

"Using specially created transgenic fish that allow us to see responses to these chemicals in the bodies of fish in real time, for example, we have shown that oestrogens found in some plastics affect the valves in the heart."

Tests showed 20 per cent of male freshwater fish, such as roach, at 50 sites had feminine characteristics.

More than 200 chemicals from sewage plants have been identified with oestrogen-like effects and drugs such as antidepressants are also altering fish's natural behaviour, his study found.

"Other research has shown that many other chemicals that are discharged through sewage treatment works can affect fish, including antidepressant drugs that reduce the natural shyness of some fish species, including the way they react to predators," Professor Tyler said.

Professor Tyler will present his findings in the opening lecture of the 50th Anniversary Symposium of the Fisheries Society in the British Isles at Exeter University from July 3 to 7.

Dr Steve Simpson, who has organised the symposium, said the week of talks would give "fish biologists from around the world a chance to exchange ideas and discuss how to protect dwindling fish populations in rapidly changing seas and rivers, before it is too late.”

Other research to be discussed at the event includes how the destruction of coral reefs and their distinctive sounds means fish are getting lost in the water, how fish are shrinking because of climate change and how power cables can disrupt how fish find sexual partners.

Northern Monkey
24-03-2018, 08:52 PM
Now are we 100% shore they’re not just self identifying?

So they can get into different Plaices

Niamh.
24-03-2018, 08:53 PM
Now are we 100% shore they’re not just self identifying?

So they can get into different PlaicesFor Cods Sake :rolleyes:

DemolitionRed
24-03-2018, 08:53 PM
Now are we 100% shore they’re not just self identifying?

So they can get into different Plaices

:hehe:

Lostie!
24-03-2018, 08:54 PM
Did you just fishgender them?

Kazanne
24-03-2018, 08:55 PM
Now are we 100% shore they’re not just self identifying?

So they can get into different Plaices

:laugh: omg,the worlds gone mad,they must be having a 'whale' of a time:hee:

Northern Monkey
24-03-2018, 08:55 PM
Is this happening on a massive scale?

Maru
24-03-2018, 08:58 PM
:laugh::laugh:

Niamh.
24-03-2018, 08:59 PM
Is this happening on a massive scale?They need to find who is gilty of dumping these drugs

Denver
24-03-2018, 09:00 PM
What the Haddock is going on with the world

Denver
24-03-2018, 09:00 PM
I am surprised this thread didn't tank

Northern Monkey
24-03-2018, 09:06 PM
They need to find who is gilty of dumping these drugs

Well when they catch them.I hope they don’t let them off the hook...

Denver
24-03-2018, 09:08 PM
Well when they catch them.I hope they don’t let them off the hook...

Now this is a BAITing post

Northern Monkey
24-03-2018, 09:11 PM
This thread’s wearing fin now

Denver
24-03-2018, 09:12 PM
What a load of Pollock's

Kazanne
24-03-2018, 09:16 PM
It's all a bit fishy if you ask me

Niamh.
24-03-2018, 09:17 PM
We eely need to stick to the topic

Kazanne
24-03-2018, 09:19 PM
We eely need to stick to the topic

I agree,otherwise we will be done up like a kipper

Marsh.
24-03-2018, 09:23 PM
Not a fish in a dress D:

Beso
24-03-2018, 09:24 PM
Can you just stop this. Period!

kirklancaster
24-03-2018, 09:26 PM
Now are we 100% shore they’re not just self identifying?

So they can get into different Plaices

:joker::joker::joker:

Are you trying to cod us Paul? :laugh:

smudgie
24-03-2018, 09:27 PM
Not a fish in a dress D:

Mermaid:shrug:
In a fishtail dress...does it for me.

kirklancaster
24-03-2018, 09:28 PM
They need to find who is gilty of dumping these drugs

I'm worried what could happen if a full-blooded MANLY beast like me ate this fish?

I will just have to change my name to Kirkette. :laugh:

kirklancaster
24-03-2018, 09:31 PM
Can you just stop this. Period!

:nono: Don't get CRABBY Parmy. :laugh::dog:

Maru
24-03-2018, 09:32 PM
Can you just stop this. Period!

Are you saying we need to keep our feelings at bay?

jaxie
24-03-2018, 09:35 PM
You're all guilty of fishophobia.

kirklancaster
24-03-2018, 09:38 PM
You're all guilty of fishophobia.

Not me Jaxie - with me, it's just that if I see a gap with no pun I just have to fillet. :laugh:

Northern Monkey
24-03-2018, 09:49 PM
Can you just stop this. Period!

Oh i sea what you did there.Very clever.

Not a very sanitary joke

kirklancaster
24-03-2018, 09:53 PM
Oh i sea what you did there.Very clever.

Not a very sanitary joke

:laugh:

Brillopad
24-03-2018, 10:04 PM
Are you saying we need to keep our feelings at bay?

Abstinence - might be appropriate to live like monks for a while.

user104658
24-03-2018, 10:56 PM
Trout.

Kizzy
24-03-2018, 11:21 PM
cisfish?
https://media.tenor.com/images/f31b41ceb19a4164e48529bbbce4fa99/tenor.gif

Maru
24-03-2018, 11:47 PM
mmm rainbow trout

https://i.imgur.com/khDyWhs.jpg

Marsh.
24-03-2018, 11:47 PM
cisfish?
https://media.tenor.com/images/f31b41ceb19a4164e48529bbbce4fa99/tenor.gif

Cis would mean the fish is NOT trans. :hee:

Kizzy
25-03-2018, 12:06 AM
Cis would mean the fish is NOT trans. :hee:

https://media.giphy.com/media/l49JJk7o3DBLC5DGw/giphy.gif

Greg!
25-03-2018, 03:53 AM
Me

Beso
25-03-2018, 07:29 AM
Are you saying we need to keep our feelings at bay?

Say what you fEEL.

Marsh.
25-03-2018, 07:36 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/l49JJk7o3DBLC5DGw/giphy.gifWell nobody else's fault you refuse to understand the meaning of a simple word.

Crimson Dynamo
25-03-2018, 07:44 AM
What is the scale of this problem?

kirklancaster
25-03-2018, 07:47 AM
What is the scale of this problem?

:laugh: I think that there is more than one sole problem L.T. :hee:

Beso
25-03-2018, 07:53 AM
slippery dick wrasse


Used to be the common dick wrasse, but changed its name so we could somehow squeeze it into this thread.

Alf
25-03-2018, 07:53 AM
Well dip me in batter and fry me! Transgender eh?

Ammi
25-03-2018, 07:54 AM
What is the scale of this problem?

..it seems to be becoming a whale of a problem...I’m perched for the consequences of flushing these pills...it’s not to be minnowmised at all in its seriousness...

Ammi
25-03-2018, 07:57 AM
...I wasn’t going to go there...but I just did...great puns people...it’s an exdorydinary story, and you’ve all risen to it...

Crimson Dynamo
25-03-2018, 08:01 AM
Its certainly marks a sea-change in gender politics

fore-shore

Alf
25-03-2018, 08:05 AM
Did you know that my Gold fish is actually transgender?

Only squidding

Alf
25-03-2018, 08:11 AM
Holy mackerel!

Crimson Dynamo
25-03-2018, 08:13 AM
I asked my Goldfish Django why he was considering going trans and he replied

"Just for the Halibut"

:shrug:

arista
25-03-2018, 08:49 AM
Yes its possible
on the Californian coast.

bots
25-03-2018, 10:49 AM
Is this the sole cause or is it a red herring? I'm sure Alex Salmon and Nicola Sturgeon will be very concerned

Brillopad
25-03-2018, 11:21 AM
Cis would mean the fish is NOT trans. :hee:

Thankfully it is just a silly made-up word with no real meaning. :hehe:

kirklancaster
25-03-2018, 12:06 PM
Thankfully it is just a silly made-up word with no real meaning. :hehe:

What about a hungry guy with a speech impediment who asks the way to the nearest 'cis and chip shop'? :laugh::dog:

Marsh.
25-03-2018, 12:23 PM
Thankfully it is just a silly made-up word with no real meaning. :hehe:All words are made up.

A dictionary didn't just fall out of a tree. :hee:

user104658
25-03-2018, 12:24 PM
I asked my Goldfish Django why he was considering going trans and he replied

"Just for the Halibut"

:shrug:Really? He told me it was so that he could access female bathrooms! :suspect:

He might have you fooled, but salmon to him. I've had enough of his carp.

RichardG
25-03-2018, 12:26 PM
we love a serious debate

Marsh.
25-03-2018, 12:30 PM
Really? He told me it was so that he could access female bathrooms! :suspect:

He might have you fooled, but salmon to him. I've had enough of his carp.Flush him down the loo!

In a male loo!

Brillopad
25-03-2018, 12:32 PM
Really? He told me it was so that he could access female bathrooms! :suspect:

He might have you fooled, but salmon to him. I've had enough of his carp.

Nice to see you taking it so seriously TS - luckily for you - you don’t have to!

user104658
25-03-2018, 12:47 PM
Nice to see you taking it so seriously TS - luckily for you - you don’t have to!I don't see any fish puns at all in that post Brillo. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Brillopad
25-03-2018, 12:56 PM
I don't see any fish puns at all in that post Brillo. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

I have already made my fish contribution.

Vicky.
25-03-2018, 01:00 PM
we love a serious debate

:laugh: I feel like I should move it given the replies, but then...even this section needs cheering up a bit from time to time.

(Sorry for no fish puns, puns are really not my specialty)

Withano
25-03-2018, 01:32 PM
Its an interesting story, but what are the implications? How many more fish will adapt their gender due to their environment? Are they capable of turning them back? And are we sure this is the reason? Creatures like dolphins get protective of certain species of female fish, so perhaps its evolutionarily beneficial for these fish? Saying that, there will be an increase of fish eggs in the atmosphere which is also food for creatures like dolphins, so it is possible there was some sort of commutative process, and the whole thing could have actually been done on porpoise.

Crimson Dynamo
25-03-2018, 02:09 PM
Its an interesting story, but what are the implications? How many more fish will adapt their gender due to their environment? Are they capable of turning them back? And are we sure this is the reason? Creatures like dolphins get protective of certain species of female fish, so perhaps its evolutionarily beneficial for these fish? Saying that, there will be an increase of fish eggs in the atmosphere which is also food for creatures like dolphins, so it is possible there was some sort of commutative process, and the whole thing could have actually been done on porpoise.


can you be a bit more pacific?

kirklancaster
25-03-2018, 02:10 PM
Its an interesting story, but what are the implications? How many more fish will adapt their gender due to their environment? Are they capable of turning them back? And are we sure this is the reason? Creatures like dolphins get protective of certain species of female fish, so perhaps its evolutionarily beneficial for these fish? Saying that, there will be an increase of fish eggs in the atmosphere which is also food for creatures like dolphins, so it is possible there was some sort of commutative process, and the whole thing could have actually been done on porpoise.

:laugh2: I was hooked by the gravity of it all then - WHAM - the pun at the end.

Maru
25-03-2018, 02:30 PM
we love a serious debait

:hehe: