View Full Version : Theresa May is more popular than Jeremy Corbyn for the first time since the election
Crimson Dynamo
09-04-2018, 05:14 PM
as the Labour leader's ratings plummet after Salisbury and the anti-Semitism scandal
Jeremy Corbyn's popularity has fallen in the past months, YouGov poll finds
Theresa May's popularity has risen amid praise of her handling of Salisbury
Findings come as Labour leader critiscised for failing tackle anti-Semitism
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5595251/YouGov-Corbyn-popularity-plummets-Salisbury-anti-Semitism-response.html
The hating the jews thing not playing well with the GBP it seems?
even at her worst she is a much better PM than Jeremy could ever be, and events prove that.
Withano
09-04-2018, 05:35 PM
Its depressing that that’s a graph from +20 to -50
jaxie
09-04-2018, 05:45 PM
Labour pulled a great election campaign but Jeremy is not squeaky clean and it was all bound to come out at some point.
Not surprised. The real tragedy is that the public get shafted by having no viable opposition.
Crimson Dynamo
09-04-2018, 06:03 PM
between the two, who would realistically vote for Corbyn
the answer is
some kids
only
Cherie
09-04-2018, 06:04 PM
The picture of May :laugh:
The picture of May :laugh:
Is she laughing or crying at this news. I can't tell. :laugh: Blink if you need our help, May.
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If there is ever a politics theme in the ava contest, I claim dibs on a remake...
Kazanne
09-04-2018, 06:57 PM
between the two, who would realistically vote for Corbyn
the answer is
some kids
only
Yer ,e iz a leg end
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smudgie
09-04-2018, 07:05 PM
Yer ,e iz a leg end
https://media.giphy.com/media/102ybEW2mMWJ9K/giphy.gif
OMG.😂😂😂
Maybe that's an excercise to develop a backbone.:joker:
Is she laughing or crying at this news. I can't tell. :laugh: Blink if you need our help, May.
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If there is ever a politics theme in the ava contest, I claim dibs on a remake...
She is having an enjoyable orgasm, mustered by the burŕowing tongue of jacob reece mogg....
Or so she thought, i think she has maybe looked down and saw jeremy slurrping away , "can i be the cat therresa"
Crimson Dynamo
09-04-2018, 07:19 PM
OMG.😂😂😂
Maybe that's an excercise to develop a backbone.:joker:
:joker:
Kazanne
09-04-2018, 07:25 PM
OMG.😂😂😂
Maybe that's an excercise to develop a backbone.:joker:
:laugh: nice one smudgie,hope it works
kirklancaster
09-04-2018, 08:07 PM
even at her worst she is a much better PM than Jeremy could ever be, and events prove that.
:clap1::clap1::clap1: SUCCINT & TRUE.
kirklancaster
09-04-2018, 08:08 PM
She is having an enjoyable orgasm, mustered by the burŕowing tongue of jacob reece mogg....
Or so she thought, i think she has maybe looked down and saw jeremy slurrping away , "can i be the cat therresa"
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
kirklancaster
09-04-2018, 08:16 PM
Yer ,e iz a leg end
https://media.giphy.com/media/102ybEW2mMWJ9K/giphy.gif
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
reece(:
09-04-2018, 09:03 PM
Because the polls are always accurate :fan:
user104658
10-04-2018, 01:03 AM
that graph really does paint a dismal picture... surely "less unpopular" would be more accurate than "more popular" :umm2:
Mystic Mock
10-04-2018, 05:14 AM
I think it's more of a battle of unpopularity than popularity.
And also let's give May a chance first, we haven't seen her campaign at the next Election yet.:joker:
Mystic Mock
10-04-2018, 05:17 AM
between the two, who would realistically vote for Corbyn
the answer is
some kids
only
What you want to ask yourself though LT is why are most young people on Corbyn's side over May's? Don't forget the younger generations are the future of this country and the fact that she doesn't get them on side is not just a worry for her, but a worry for the Tory party in the future.
Kazanne
10-04-2018, 09:03 AM
What you want to ask yourself though LT is why are most young people on Corbyn's side over May's? Don't forget the younger generations are the future of this country and the fact that she doesn't get them on side is not just a worry for her, but a worry for the Tory party in the future.
The government have today allocated 75 million toward clinical trials for prostrate cancer also several million for art etc in schools ,so it may look on the surface as they don't do much ,but they do what they can with the funds they have.but things like that don't get reported much,just the negative stuff.:wavey:
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2018, 09:09 AM
What you want to ask yourself though LT is why are most young people on Corbyn's side over May's? Don't forget the younger generations are the future of this country and the fact that she doesn't get them on side is not just a worry for her, but a worry for the Tory party in the future.
Some
most cant be arsed to vote. Youthful idealism is just that and always will be so. The Tories are about business and economy and that is not something that you tend to get until your 30s in a general sense
Livia
10-04-2018, 10:15 AM
The hating the jews thing not playing well with the GBP it seems?
The UK has always had a low tolerance for anti-Semitism. Joe public threw Mosley and his Blackshirts out of Cable Street in the 30s, and they won't stand for Labour trying it on now.
Livia
10-04-2018, 10:19 AM
She is having an enjoyable orgasm, mustered by the burŕowing tongue of jacob reece mogg....
Or so she thought, i think she has maybe looked down and saw jeremy slurrping away , "can i be the cat therresa"
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Cherie
10-04-2018, 10:35 AM
Both trash
Pretty much!
Kizzy
10-04-2018, 11:23 AM
The UK has always had a low tolerance for anti-Semitism. Joe public threw Mosley and his Blackshirts out of Cable Street in the 30s, and they won't stand for Labour trying it on now.
Funny that because they loved it when the Mail were doing it to Milliband.... :/
chuff me dizzy
10-04-2018, 01:15 PM
even at her worst she is a much better PM than Jeremy could ever be, and events prove that.
Im no Tory despite being raised in a staunch Tory home ,but nothing would make me vote Corbyn ,not only because of his leanings but because of other Mps ( Abbott et al ) and his new committee member Izzard
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2018, 01:18 PM
Funny that because they loved it when the Mail were doing it to Milliband.... :/
probably best to provide a link and evidence rather than just a claim?
kirklancaster
10-04-2018, 01:31 PM
Funny that because they loved it when the Mail were doing it to Milliband.... :/
They derided Milliband NOT because he was Jewish but because he was a HOPELESS PRAT of a POLITICIAN.
Kizzy
10-04-2018, 01:39 PM
They derided Milliband NOT because he was Jewish but because he was a HOPELESS PRAT of a POLITICIAN.
Nope... Why don't you do a bit of research and get back to me on this?
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2018, 01:43 PM
Nope... Why don't you do a bit of research and get back to me on this?
no, why dont you back up your claim with evidence first
you made the claim
now prove it
Nicky91
10-04-2018, 01:45 PM
that's not so difficult Theresa is a better leader than Corbyn ever will be
They derided Milliband NOT because he was Jewish but because he was a HOPELESS PRAT of a POLITICIAN.
i remember Milliband on a live debate saying that he would not go in to coalition with anyone ... which is ok ... and then went on to say .... even if it meant he lost the election ... and that was the moment he lost all credibility and the election ... hopeless prat
kirklancaster
10-04-2018, 02:20 PM
i remember Milliband on a live debate saying that he would not go in to coalition with anyone ... which is ok ... and then went on to say .... even if it meant he lost the election ... and that was the moment he lost all credibility and the election ... hopeless prat
:laugh: I remember that too, BOTS - and he is a hopeless prat.
jaxie
10-04-2018, 02:39 PM
:laugh: I remember that too, BOTS - and he is a hopeless prat.
I never understood why they chose him over the other brother who seemed to be much more self assured and together. :shrug:
Mystic Mock
10-04-2018, 02:40 PM
Some
most cant be arsed to vote. Youthful idealism is just that and always will be so. The Tories are about business and economy and that is not something that you tend to get until your 30s in a general sense
No matter how it's dressed up the Tories have lost popularity over the last few decades, if this was in the 80's for example I honestly don't believe that Corbyn would stand a cat in hell's chance against May as Labour was out of fashion at that point in the country and it wouldn't even be close, and imo that's because the Tories way of trying to get the Economy going is to punish select groups rather than punish everyone (I know that punish isn't really the word that I'm looking for but I can't think of it right now so it's a good substitute word) I also don't think that the younger generations will be on their side if they keep behaving so negative either and come off as so hateful towards the younger generations.
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2018, 02:43 PM
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Mystic Mock
10-04-2018, 02:43 PM
They derided Milliband NOT because he was Jewish but because he was a HOPELESS PRAT of a POLITICIAN.
They did an article on his dead Father just to try and humiliate him.
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2018, 02:46 PM
They did an article on his dead Father just to try and humiliate him.
who did and how do you know the motivation behind it?
Mystic Mock
10-04-2018, 02:46 PM
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The younger generation will get older don't forget and if the Tories carry on running the country like this then I don't see them doing to well with the future of this country.
Mystic Mock
10-04-2018, 02:48 PM
who did and how do you know the motivation behind it?
You know that the Daily Mail did an article on Ed Miliband's dead Father over his opinions of Britain during WWII and then tried to twist it that you shouldn't vote for Ed Miliband.
The younger generation will get older don't forget and if the Tories carry on running the country like this then I don't see them doing to well with the future of this country.
Yes mock, the younger generation will get older and as they do so, they will change and vote for the tories. Young labour voters is not a new phenomena, it just reflects their priorities at their voting age.
Mystic Mock
10-04-2018, 02:54 PM
Yes mock, the younger generation will get older and as they do so, they will change and vote for the tories. Young labour voters is not a new phenomena, it just reflects their priorities at their voting age.
As I've already said, the Tories will not win this generation over as they get older if they carry on calling them snowflakes, lazy, and make it hard for them to live in their own homes.
The Tory membership is also at an all time low, showing that yet again they're losing more popularity than when they was in charge during the late 70's and 80's.
As I've already said, the Tories will not win this generation over as they get older if they carry on calling them snowflakes, lazy, and make it hard for them to live in their own homes.
The Tory membership is also at an all time low, showing that yet again they're losing more popularity than when they was in charge during the late 70's and 80's.
Your comments are not reflected in the voting though. Don't be under any illusions. The result that labour got at the last election exceeded their wildest expectations because of May's mess up and they still lost. That will not repeat any time soon. Labour have to represent the whole population to win an election, and on their present course that's just not happening.
kirklancaster
10-04-2018, 02:58 PM
"My salad days, when I was green in judgment, cold in blood, To say as I said then!"
Cleopatra -Shakespeare.
user104658
10-04-2018, 02:59 PM
The idea is that as people get older and their salaries rise and they gather assets, they will become more protective of those things, and thus vote Tory for lower taxes etc.
What I'm not sure people realise is that the young people of today are going to grow up with nowt but lifelong rented accommodation, stagnant wages, and mountains of personal debt :joker:.
Mystic Mock
10-04-2018, 03:01 PM
Your comments are not reflected in the voting though. Don't be under any illusions. The result that labour got at the last election exceeded their wildest expectations because of May's mess up and they still lost. That will not repeat any time soon. Labour have to represent the whole population to win an election, and on their present course that's just not happening.
Labour only have to drop Corbyn imo and they'd win the Election, people have had enough of the Tories hence why even Corbyn got so many votes in the last Election.
And also the Media have done a hatchet job to both Miliband and Corbyn during Election time and the Tories still struggled to get more votes than both of them, that's not exactly a huge endorsement.
Mystic Mock
10-04-2018, 03:02 PM
The idea is that as people get older and their salaries rise and they gather assets, they will become more protective of those things, and thus vote Tory for lower taxes etc.
What I'm not sure people realise is that the young people of today are going to grow up with nowt but lifelong rented accommodation, stagnant wages, and mountains of personal debt :joker:.
This is what I'm trying to say but you put it across so much better than I did.:laugh:
user104658
10-04-2018, 03:03 PM
Fact is the Tories are very much stuck in "old Britain" (pre net generation) and they DO very badly need to modernise, at some point, if they're going to be a viable party once the people who actually remember "old Britain" are dead and gone.
However anyone who thinks that's an issue for the NEXT general election are being very optimistic. There are still people voting who remember rationing ffs :joker:. But, in the next 30, 40, 50 years... Both major parties are going to need to make huge changes in order to stay relevant.
kirklancaster
10-04-2018, 03:05 PM
The idea is that as people get older and their salaries rise and they gather assets, they will become more protective of those things, and thus vote Tory for lower taxes etc.
What I'm not sure people realise is that the young people of today are going to grow up with nowt but lifelong rented accommodation, stagnant wages, and mountains of personal debt :joker:.
It can be a bleak picture looking forward T.S. but I can only look back at the decades when I was growing up AND growing old, and all I see is the infinitely better standard of living EVERYONE has now and the infinitely better chances and opportunities for ANYONE to better their own personal standards IF they REALLY want to invest effort, time and hard work.
WHATEVER problems there are now - and THERE ARE plenty - life will go on and circumstances WILL improve.
user104658
10-04-2018, 03:06 PM
Labour only have to drop Corbyn imo and they'd win the Election, people have had enough of the Tories hence why even Corbyn got so many votes in the last Election.
And also the Media have done a hatchet job to both Miliband and Corbyn during Election time and the Tories still struggled to get more votes than both of them, that's not exactly a huge endorsement.I strongly suspect that Labour will drop Corbyn for a "younger, strong, sensible, charismatic" leader just in time for the next election campaign, and the "fresh buzz" combined with a hunger for change will serve them very well in the voting. I reckon Corbyn is a red herring.
user104658
10-04-2018, 03:10 PM
It can be a bleak picture looking forward T.S. but I can only look back at the decades when I was growing up AND growing old, and all I see is the infinitely better standard of living EVERYONE has now and the infinitely better chances and opportunities for ANYONE to better their own personal standards IF they REALLY want to invest effort, time and hard work.
WHATEVER problems there are now - and THERE ARE plenty - life will go on and circumstances WILL improve.I actually think we're currently in a bit of a paradoxical situation where people have both less hope and fewer real opportunities, AND YET better day to day standards of living at the same time... Which means that people seem to have a lot more, and in terms of day to day comforts DO have a lot more, and yet in other ways... Less. I suppose because day to day comforts are not really the things in life that are meaningful or fulfilling. It's a really quite complicated situation in that way.
jaxie
10-04-2018, 03:13 PM
I actually think we're currently in a bit of a paradoxical situation where people have both less hope and fewer real opportunities, AND YET better day to day standards of living at the same time... Which means that people seem to have a lot more, and in terms of day to day comforts DO have a lot more, and yet in other ways... Less. I suppose because day to day comforts are not really the things in life that are meaningful or fulfilling. It's a really quite complicated situation in that way.
Perhaps its just that every young generation thinks its hard done by at the time, even though standards of living are a lot better than they were when their parents were young. I mean everyone has a phone these days. To me real poverty is not being able to afford things like that but others have posted before that they think having a phone is a necessity of life and not a luxury item.
Kazanne
10-04-2018, 03:24 PM
People want too much for too little input in a lot of cases, most of us live a life some could only dream of,even those who chose not to work and pay taxes get money for nothing and some keep it as a lifestyle which their children emulate and the cycle goes on,those who have wealth have usually achieved that by sheer hard work, the world doesn't owe us a living.
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2018, 03:25 PM
I actually think we're currently in a bit of a paradoxical situation where people have both less hope and fewer real opportunities, AND YET better day to day standards of living at the same time... Which means that people seem to have a lot more, and in terms of day to day comforts DO have a lot more, and yet in other ways... Less. I suppose because day to day comforts are not really the things in life that are meaningful or fulfilling. It's a really quite complicated situation in that way.
the internet has opened up amazing opportunities for young people like no other generation before
what a time to be alive
user104658
10-04-2018, 03:40 PM
Perhaps its just that every young generation thinks its hard done by at the time, even though standards of living are a lot better than they were when their parents were young. I mean everyone has a phone these days. To me real poverty is not being able to afford things like that but others have posted before that they think having a phone is a necessity of life and not a luxury item.
I'm not really talking about "poverty" though, I'm just saying... "things" aren't really what makes life fulfilling, are they? A lot of very lonely and miserable people out there with a lot of "things".
That said, I would say that having at least a basic android mobile phone IS a necessity these days to hold down even a basic job, etc... for example, you have to be involved in staff group chats, things like social media and skype are becoming more and more standard. We don't even do paper rotas anymore - it's all via app. Also payslips are all electronic. So we sort of are at a point where these devices aren't entirely "luxury items". Although obviously having the latest / best model all of the time isn't exactly necessary.
Kizzy
10-04-2018, 06:00 PM
:laugh: I remember that too, BOTS - and he is a hopeless prat.
Whether or not he was a prat is not the issue... if you remember the point I raised was the antisemitism in the right wing media during his time as Labour leader.
Kizzy
10-04-2018, 06:05 PM
Yes mock, the younger generation will get older and as they do so, they will change and vote for the tories. Young labour voters is not a new phenomena, it just reflects their priorities at their voting age.
What a bizarre concept... how do you account for the 500,000 Labour membership, are you suggesting they're all under 25?
People want too much for too little input in a lot of cases, most of us live a life some could only dream of,even those who chose not to work and pay taxes get money for nothing and some keep it as a lifestyle which their children emulate and the cycle goes on,those who have wealth have usually achieved that by sheer hard work, the world doesn't owe us a living.
Yeah i like that.
I think a lot of poor people judge all rich people by what they have seen in the house of lords over the years. The true facts are just about all rich people have worked bloody hard for what they have. The havenots are simply self loathsome and jealous.
kirklancaster
10-04-2018, 08:01 PM
What a bizarre concept... how do you account for the 500,000 Labour membership, are you suggesting they're all under 25?
Bearing in mind that Corbyn is the Labour Leader and that abhorrent Racist Abbot has her big behind firmly wedged in one of the party's top seats, how about APPALLING LACK OF JUDGEMENT?
Kizzy
10-04-2018, 08:15 PM
Not you putting down half a million Brits! :/ :nono:
kirklancaster
10-04-2018, 08:21 PM
Not you putting down half a million Brits! :/ :nono:
Not so.
We are all capable of having a poor lack of judgement at some time in our lives and in MY opinion, anyone who STILL remains a Labour Party member with Corbyn at the helm and Abbott in his crew ARE experiencing such a lack of judgement right now.
Saying as much is NOT putting anyone down.
Kizzy
10-04-2018, 08:40 PM
Not so.
We are all capable of having a poor lack of judgement at some time in our lives and in MY opinion, anyone who STILL remains a Labour Party member with Corbyn at the helm and Abbott in his crew ARE experiencing such a lack of judgement right now.
Saying as much is NOT putting anyone down.
What? all those who voted Labour at the last election then? Even worse :/
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