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Chrizzle
22-05-2007, 09:02 PM
What is everyones opinion on the school lesson, P.E
Should it be a core subject?

My experience of P.E was very embarrassing. Imo I think its a way to get self-concious teenagers out in the cold in tiny shorts while the teacher stands all wrapped up.
Its also an excuse to embarrass the rubbish kids, in front of the good sporty kids.

I definately think this should NOT be a core subject, as I had to last 4 years of complete embarrassment. Its also not nice seeing other people embarrassed and having people shout stuff like 'OMG THANKS A LOT YOU RUINED THE GAME' etc etc

Opinions?

Bells
22-05-2007, 09:07 PM
I think it should be a core subject, but the school P.E. departments should possibly have a variety of different things going on to suit different tastes. Some sports and forms of exercise are really fun for some, whilst not for others, and vice versa! Whilst those who love all of them can mix and match, choose whatever.

I understand it can be difficult for some P.E. departments to perhaps fund this and have the staff, but we always hear about how exercise is meant to be fun, etc., but the fact is for some it's just not. For some, it's not their thing! So having the above option, would, IMO, be a good solution. Of course, it may not happen and P.E. will just always be known as the way it is today... but I think it could work if schools had access to the money, which in a lot of cases I guess they don't! I don't think they should scrap it as a core subject completely because it can be fun and will allow more and more people to enjoy P.E.

nodisharmony
22-05-2007, 09:13 PM
I hated P.E (Physical Education)

Games too:yuk:

Give me a double Maths or double English anyday:hello:







nodisharmony :angel:

Princess
22-05-2007, 09:21 PM
P.E is riduculious. Sport is a talent and the majority of sports played during P.E are talent based. I am personally horrible at P.E and I always feel bad because I know I'm unwanted in whatever team I'm in because I do so bad! I also hate if you have to do athlectics or something,one and one and everyone watches,thats just intimadating.

I think P.E should still be a core subject as we all do need a little bit of exercise but like Ash said they should be varied like sport sports and then things like dance etc.

Sunny_01
22-05-2007, 10:16 PM
I think that PE is important, but I dont think that people should be pushed to do things that are out of their ability which is what a lot of teachers do. They structure their lessons around a minority of kids who can do sports well and push the rest to keep up!

I think that lessons should be planned around different abilities and likes and dislikes. At least at my daughters school they can wear jogging bottoms and are not forced to show their legs off to all and sundry

Legend
22-05-2007, 10:36 PM
It should definatly be kept as a core subject. Some people are bound to hate it but it doesn't mean they should get away with not doing it, some are better yes but that's life, people are always going to be better at things but you've still got to get on with it.

I don't see why P.E is any different to Science, i'm RUBBISH at Science but i still have to do 5 hours a week of it and when we do tests and everyone is getting C's and i'm getting my G, that's quite embarrasing and also when we do experiments and i have no clue, but i still do it and get on with it. I have the same view on Science as you do P.E.

With P.E you do get more choice so you can therefore choose something which will embarras you less whearas you get no choice in Science or any other subjects, it doesn't matter how rubbish you are at it, you're stuck with it.

Dan_
22-05-2007, 10:54 PM
I was going to make that exact same point Legend.

There does need to be more choice like at my school where we either got split into ability groups or they would provide about 5 different sports for people to do each lesson and there was also a proper gym so people could just go on a treadmill for the whole lesson which suited the people who were never any good but most schools arent as lucky and then there's always the interform competitions which most schools run.

I remember back when I was in year 9 most of the lads in my class who were any good at football were either injured or ill so we had a small squad and a rather than let the 6/7 of us that did want to play they made those who did not care and that were awful play a certain amount of time in the two games and that resulted in me having to come on as a sub midway through the first game with already a goal down and the other classes had only good players out so we were at a huge disadvantage and it was unfair on those that did want to play and those who did not, as much as it pissed me off that those who did not want to play put in zero effort I could understand how they felt as there was another subject I hated that I put hardly any effort into.

It should all be about choice of sports for me.

Sunny_01
22-05-2007, 11:36 PM
Do you know what I had not even thought about it the way you describe Legend and Dan, and you are both right! I do think it needs to be tailor made as people are so concerned about their looks etc.. but your points are very valid indeed

Ruth
23-05-2007, 07:58 AM
I absolutely think that PE should be a core subject. I hated PE at school, but I hated Maths too, and I wasn't allowed to get out of that!

Also, youngsters today are far less active than years ago, and obesity is a growing problem (no pun intended) in our society. If we removed PE from the compulsory curriculum, we would be getting rid of the only physical exercise that some people get.

nodisharmony
23-05-2007, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Princess
P.E is riduculious. Sport is a talent and the majority of sports played during P.E are talent based. I am personally horrible at P.E and I always feel bad because I know I'm unwanted in whatever team I'm in because I do so bad! I also hate if you have to do athlectics or something,one and one and everyone watches,thats just intimadating.

I think P.E should still be a core subject as we all do need a little bit of exercise but like Ash said they should be varied like sport sports and then things like dance etc.


I agree Laura:thumbs:

Many children really don't like a lot of P.E or Games, I remember being forced to play football and I hated it. I would stand there wishing that I was anywhere else instead. I just refused to kick the ball and just pretended that I did not see the ball coming in my direction.

I was placed as the defender a few times and the goal-keeper, whoever he was, knew I wasn't going to do anything, so it was a pointless situation.

Many are not good at running and I certainly wasn't, it just didn't interest me and even though, there was a few things I thought were okay at the time, I think that pupil's who are really not very interested, should be allowed to miss out on certain activities, especially if they really hate it.

and I did.







nodisharmony :angel:

Legend
23-05-2007, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by Princess
P.E is riduculious. Sport is a talent and the majority of sports played during P.E are talent based. I am personally horrible at P.E and I always feel bad because I know I'm unwanted in whatever team I'm in because I do so bad! I also hate if you have to do athlectics or something,one and one and everyone watches,thats just intimadating.

I think P.E should still be a core subject as we all do need a little bit of exercise but like Ash said they should be varied like sport sports and then things like dance etc.


I agree Laura:thumbs:

Many children really don't like a lot of P.E or Games, I remember being forced to play football and I hated it. I would stand there wishing that I was anywhere else instead. I just refused to kick the ball and just pretended that I did not see the ball coming in my direction.

I was placed as the defender a few times and the goal-keeper, whoever he was, knew I wasn't going to do anything, so it was a pointless situation.

Many are not good at running and I certainly wasn't, it just didn't interest me and even though, there was a few things I thought were okay at the time, I think that pupil's who are really not very interested, should be allowed to miss out on certain activities, especially if they really hate it.

and I did.







nodisharmony :angel:

Do you also think people should be allowed to miss out on certain area's in English, Math, Science etc just because they hate it?

stacey
23-05-2007, 03:02 PM
i love p.e and i think it should be a core subject because its all for exersize and keeping fit, i think different schools vary in the subject on what activities they do, i really dont like gymnastics in p.e but then i like football but others are the opposite of me they like gymnastics and hate football at least in p.e your not always doing the same activities all of the time

Chrizzle
23-05-2007, 07:42 PM
Your not as likely to get embarrassed in Maths as you are in P.E though.
Its not that I hate it, I think the way its structured is ridiculous

Imo the only good way of keeping it, is if they change it.
Good group and bad group.
Keep the kids who wanna do it togehter, and the kids that dont together.

nodisharmony
23-05-2007, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Legend

Do you also think people should be allowed to miss out on certain area's in English, Math, Science etc just because they hate it?


I think that English, Math's & Science are important subjects Legend. and many pupils in a school won't like them.

Schoolkids that don't like lessons like those mentioned, will probably mess around in the classroom and just do it badly, because they don't like it.

I do remember being forced against my will, to have to stand on a freezing football pitch, having to play a game of football, which I did not want to do.

I hated it and I hated P.E. too.

I bunked off while I was 15 & 16 years old.

I got my mother to write a letter about me not doing it, saying some made-up reason why I couldn't

My friends also did the same, as my idea was good:eureka:

sometimes you need to be sneaky, you know:wink:






nodisharmony :angel:

lilmissnaughty
24-05-2007, 09:47 AM
I haven't done PE Since Year 10. And I don't think it should be a core subject. It hardly teaches students anything useful unless they want to be a PE Teacher or whatever. And besides, I'm active enough outside of school :p

GlitterEyes
24-05-2007, 02:27 PM
I think it depends on the school itself whether it can be enjoyable or not. Just because someone is rubbish at basketball or netball doesn't mean they will be rubbish at high jump or something. If the school has limited PE sessions such as Football, Netball, Rounders and Rugby then I can understand why people dislike it but if they have widen subject areas like high jump, long jump, gym, dance, orienteering, golf, trampolining etc people can find their own area they enjoy. I think for the first few years it is important for kids to learn the basics being football and rugby for boys and netball and rounders for girls but as they develope they should be allowed to play what they want.

I think PE is very important because it is the only form of exercise some people get...some people play sports outside school but many don\t have access to facilities etc therefore need that regular hour exercise a week or twice a week. I believe that there IS a sport out there for everyone which they enjoy...being good at it doesn't really matter aslong as they enjoy it. If a wider range of subjects were put forward I am sure you would find one you enjoyed.

You will always get people who are "picked first" and if you are picked last or at that bottom end it can feel embarassing but you will get that time when its a quiz or something and the sporty types will be picked last also so it kind of evens itself out.

The only part I do agree with is the "sports kit" wearing shorts or little skirts in winter is pathetic and kids should be allowed to wear tracksuits/jogging pants etc aswell as jumpers as its freezing cold.

In most schools having girls doing "football" gets cringed at because its seen as a "boys sport" and schools which still have that attitude are pathetic...I'm not saying that girls would want to play rugby or boys would want to play netball but the options should still be there I think.

Chrizzle
24-05-2007, 02:55 PM
I hate Maths, but dont think it should be taken out the core subjects.
I hate PE, and I do think it is.

Its a pointless lesson for those not wanting to do it.

GlitterEyes
24-05-2007, 03:36 PM
I dont think it is pointless at all it helps things such as teamwork and co-ordination. What subjects are actually offered to you? Is there any sport you would play and enjoy? or is the schools facilities limited and your stuck playing one/two sports all the time?

Chrizzle
24-05-2007, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I dont think it is pointless at all it helps things such as teamwork and co-ordination. What subjects are actually offered to you? Is there any sport you would play and enjoy? or is the schools facilities limited and your stuck playing one/two sports all the time?

I said its a pointless lesson for those not wanting to do it. It teaches them nothing.

I dont dislike sport, I dislike P.E. Theres a difference.

GlitterEyes
24-05-2007, 04:04 PM
Ok so you play sport out of school hours then? You may not think it has teached you anything but I am sure it has. There are alot of things people dislike doing but its all part of growing up and learning things on the way.

Ruth*Star
24-05-2007, 04:21 PM
I didn't do PE for 2 and a half years and the PE teacher said she would go to the head teacher if i didn't start doing it, so after being threatened i started doing it which it really isn't as bad apart from some taunts and some embarrassing moments.

GlitterEyes
24-05-2007, 04:22 PM
How did you get out of it? or just didn't turn up? lol

Ruth*Star
24-05-2007, 04:25 PM
I have Epilepsy so i played the 'i feel dizzy card' for 2 odd years and the teacher got sick of it so then she threatened me so i didn't want to get told off so i just started doing it.

GiRTh
24-05-2007, 04:32 PM
I don’t think P.E. should be scrapped at all. I think this is a nother example of the youth of today wanting everything their own way. Keep it in and make them suffer

GlitterEyes
24-05-2007, 04:34 PM
That worked for quite some time then the teacher will probably of been "scared" of pushing you incase something has happened. Was there any sporty subjects that you are told to stay away from because of your epilepsy? Not actually in school but in general..

Ruth*Star
24-05-2007, 04:46 PM
No not really, i was told to take things easy and not over do things. I'm not sure whether i am able to drive when i am older though.

Lil-Lindz
24-05-2007, 04:47 PM
To be honest i dont see why they should force people who really dont like sports to have to run around in the freezing cold. Its not fair on the really bad people who allways lose Lol!

Emilee
24-05-2007, 04:50 PM
Nooo Way. I understand what you mean. I do GCSE P.E And i love it. I suppose in my lessons a major majority can play all sports so you are playing/competing against your same ability.

I Think P.E Is important for anybody it keeps you fit and healthy.

In The National Curriculum lessons i dont like as much because it isn't as challenging. But When were playing rounders and stuff i dont mind it.

If i am ever a captain i always choose the people who get picked last first. I hate it when its always the same people who get picked last, its so mean... its like "I guess ill have to have you" I think thats really horrible.

But i suppose it depends if you like P.E or not....
But i do think it should be a core subject.

Lil-Lindz
24-05-2007, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Emilee
Nooo Way. I understand what you mean. I do GCSE P.E And i love it. I suppose in my lessons a major majority can play all sports so you are playing/competing against your same ability.

I Think P.E Is important for anybody it keeps you fit and healthy.

In The National Curriculum lessons i dont like as much because it isn't as challenging. But When were playing rounders and stuff i dont mind it.

If i am ever a captain i always choose the people who get picked last first. I hate it when its always the same people who get picked last, its so mean... its like "I guess ill have to have you" I think thats really horrible.

But i suppose it depends if you like P.E or not....
But i do think it should be a core subject.

I hated being picked last, i suppose that was one of the reasons i really hated PE, also I hated half the sports we did.
I used to allways get picked last, bunch of popular freaks in my class Lol

GlitterEyes
24-05-2007, 04:58 PM
I think when in a team you pick the best sporty players because you want to win...that makes sense to me might sound hard but some people DO pick their friends over the sporty types. The same thing would happen if it was a maths competition you would pick the best people at maths. The people who are poor at maths would be picked last there too..when pupils are doing the picking there will always be atleast one upset thats why it should be done randomly or alphabetically.

If you dislike PE for the way it is run or dislike the teacher then fair enough but you need to learn to just get on with it as its part of life you won't always enjoy doing things but it has to be done. If you love football but hate tennis you have to just get on with it as you can't always get what you want. Some people love sports and would play all day every day and hate maths english etc but you cannot always give people what they want. Each subect teaches people different qualities and you pick up something from each one which will help you down the line.

Lil-Lindz
24-05-2007, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I think when in a team you pick the best sporty players because you want to win...that makes sense to me might sound hard but some people DO pick their friends over the sporty types. The same thing would happen if it was a maths competition you would pick the best people at maths. The people who are poor at maths would be picked last there too..when pupils are doing the picking there will always be atleast one upset thats why it should be done randomly or alphabetically.

If you dislike PE for the way it is run or dislike the teacher then fair enough but you need to learn to just get on with it as its part of life you won't always enjoy doing things but it has to be done. If you love football but hate tennis you have to just get on with it as you can't always get what you want. Some people love sports and would play all day every day and hate maths english etc but you cannot always give people what they want. Each subect teaches people different qualities and you pick up something from each one which will help you down the line.

Yes it does teach you certain qualities, but if your like me it teaches how cruel and mean some people can be. I used to allways get picked last and i found it really upsetting and unfair. I think it should be done randomly or something. Then maybe i would have liked it a little more.

GlitterEyes
24-05-2007, 05:10 PM
Maybe in PE you where last but what about other subjects? for any other "team or group work"? I think this is one thing schools should look at...if people picked in pairs that would kind of solve things as two people would be last not one. Randomly makes alot more sense though or just standing everyone in one line and the teacher saying "Blue team" or "red team" but even in that someone will be last. There are people out there who are cruel and nasty but you should try not let them bother you just think of it saving the best til last and rise above anyones comments.

Lil-Lindz
24-05-2007, 05:11 PM
Yea i can understand that, im just glad i dont do PE now. and i have also been picked last in other subjects as well, lets just say im not very popular, alot of people hate me for no reason and leave it at that Lol

Legend
24-05-2007, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by Legend

Do you also think people should be allowed to miss out on certain area's in English, Math, Science etc just because they hate it?


I think that English, Math's & Science are important subjects Legend. and many pupils in a school won't like them.

Schoolkids that don't like lessons like those mentioned, will probably mess around in the classroom and just do it badly, because they don't like it.

I do remember being forced against my will, to have to stand on a freezing football pitch, having to play a game of football, which I did not want to do.

I hated it and I hated P.E. too.

I bunked off while I was 15 & 16 years old.

I got my mother to write a letter about me not doing it, saying some made-up reason why I couldn't

My friends also did the same, as my idea was good:eureka:

sometimes you need to be sneaky, you know:wink:






nodisharmony :angel:

P.E is important too, as people have said it helps with teamwork, co-ordination and all other skills. It also gives the boneidol kids something active to do rather than just ''bunking off'' and forging notes.

I don't think Science is important atall, unless you're planning on doing it for further education then it's absolutely pointless because i'm never going to need to know how many atoms something has. Although i don't like it, i am FORCED to sit in a boiling hot room, listening to some bore ramble on about protons and electrons and make notes all lesson. My mum isn't able to write me a note to allow me to sit in the corner and do nothing because it's a ''great idea'', i have to ENDURE it, endure a double lesson of something which i'm never going to use in my future life. Luckily for you P.E haters, you can forge notes to get out of it, enough people do it in my school and it doesn't half annoy me because they're the same people who are ''angels'' in all the other lessons and are known as a ''star student' and it's pathetic because they're simply boneidol. Obviously i don't try as hard in Science, English, R.E because it doesn't interest me and i'm not going to need them but although i don't try as hard as the genuis', i know it's something i have to do 5 hours a week of so i put as much effort in as my attention spam allows because i'm not a boneidol person.

Plus, P.E is only for 2 hours a week, not 5/6 like the others.

I think people should just get on with it and stop complaining as much, if you put more effort into actually doing it and actually tried it out then i'm sure you'd even enjoy it in the end. However, if you still don't then it's called ''tough'', you should just get on with it.

One more thing... people go on about being picked last etc. When i go captain in football then i do pick my team based on who are the best because i want to win, obviously and the worse players are picked last, but i'm sure i wouldn't be top of any of their lists if they had to chose people to do a Science project because they'd want the best grade they could and i'd hinder them.

The point is, well i don't actually know but people just need to realise that it's a ''core'' subject for a reason and it's there for a reason and you should just do it, quit moaning and do it.

nodisharmony
24-05-2007, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by Legend
you should just do it, quit moaning and do it.

Been there, done it, wore the t-shirt:wink:

I moaned & won.....

Nothing new there:rolleyes:






nodisharmony :angel:

Chrizzle
24-05-2007, 09:47 PM
I think people should just get on with it and stop complaining as much, if you put more effort into actually doing it and actually tried it out then i'm sure you'd even enjoy it in the end. However, if you still don't then it's called ''tough'', you should just get on with it.

Your right, I LOVED being laughed at! I should do it more often.

Im lucky anyway ive left now. I no longer have to stand around doing nothing.

BigSister
24-05-2007, 09:50 PM
I didnt like PE because im small and therfore i wasnt good at thing slike netball basketball etc. Howdver i did enjoy things like dance, aerobics etc. However if you are a boy thats different. I like whoever said there should be 2 different section sthose who are good and those who dont reallky enjoy it

Mike
24-05-2007, 09:57 PM
I think it should definately be kept as a core subject no question.

Ant, i fully agree with what your saying because i was in the same boat as you when i was at school loved PE but couldn't stand Science but because we had no choice i had to sit there listening to aload of rubbish that bored me. I can understand where the people are coming from when they say 'but it's embarrasing doing PE' because it's not nice at all when you have to do something your not really that good at but it works both ways, for example i was rubbish at Science and if a question was asked infront of the whole class i would just freeze because i didn't have a clue what the teacher was talking about and then of course people would laugh which made me feel really embarrased and low.

Chrizzle
24-05-2007, 09:59 PM
But even though I enjoyed playing basketball and football, I still hate the way its structured.

I think PE should be core 7,8,and 9 but in Yrs 10 and 11 we should get a choice.

xGemmax
24-05-2007, 10:11 PM
P.E is absolutely stupid. I HATED it when I was at school, but saying that I never did it lol. I just think school is bad enough as it is, without having to stand outside in the freezing cold for an hour, or make a fool or yourself. :bored:

Sunny_01
24-05-2007, 10:16 PM
I see the argument from both sides. I see why people would find it no fun to be picked last etc.. but I also see why others would want be enthusiastic about it.

My daughter loves sport, she will get into any game or activity. In fact she doesnt think she gets enough PE!! However she is good at most things which makes it easier for her.

I dont think there is a right and wrong here, just different feelings about different subjects.

BigSister
24-05-2007, 10:16 PM
thats like it was at our school chris hehe

Princess
24-05-2007, 10:19 PM
Ant,did you say Science was a core subject :conf2: I never knew Science was a core subject there! The only ones we have are English,Maths,P.E and Irish which really I think is more stupid than P.E.

I hate Irish though and I still find P.E worse. In academic subjects,however it seems you can just zone out half the time if you're bad at the subject. In P.E they make you feel like an absoulute twat if you do one thing wrong. Academic subjects are more for a person alone. P.E is a group effort and when you feck it all up,the burden of losing is put onto you.

P.E is supposed to teach teamwork but it seems to be about competetion than anything else. If theres a quiz or something in another class its a once-off but P.E is just constant humilation and competetion. Its the test of the fitness and I hate it.

Chrizzle
24-05-2007, 10:22 PM
P.E taught me more about bullying!

Michael
26-05-2007, 01:19 PM
i didnt like PE, but i always loved when we done indoor soccer and basketball, but PE shouldnt be a core subject.

Chri$
27-05-2007, 04:54 PM
I hate PE!

Its sooooooo Sick (Running for 60 mins n stuff) :cloud:

Lil-Lindz
27-05-2007, 05:02 PM
The people who love PE are the skinny people who are really good at it and who just want to run around in the freezing cold
I am not one of them people, sure i LOVED tennis and maybe football but the others i hated with a passion, i hate team sports because its the whole teacher chooses a captain, you get picked last, yadda yadda
thats why i love tennis, you can just pick to work with your mate and have a laugh

Stu
27-05-2007, 08:06 PM
From my experiences of PE , it is a horribly structured , horribly mis managed subject full of cliches , favourtism and class superiority structures with the same 4 or 5 people being the sport types , the other 10 or 11 being physically incapable of much at all being shouted at , and the remaining 2 or 3 [Read : me] opting to go behind the school and smoke a joint instead.

Im all for PE being OPTIONAL but to even suggest it should be a core subject is absoloutely mental. Its different from all the other subjects and you know it , so no comparisons to Science or what not.

facehead
28-05-2007, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Stu
From my experiences of PE , it is a horribly structured , horribly mis managed subject full of cliches , favourtism and class superiority structures with the same 4 or 5 people being the sport types , the other 10 or 11 being physically incapable of much at all being shouted at , and the remaining 2 or 3 [Read : me] opting to go behind the school and smoke a joint instead.

Im all for PE being OPTIONAL but to even suggest it should be a core subject is absoloutely mental. Its different from all the other subjects and you know it , so no comparisons to Science or what not.

haha fair play

i do a level p.e and love it but i can see why people dont like it so making it a core subject is a bit hatsh

Scarlett.
29-05-2007, 01:49 AM
I hated it in lower High School
but in Yr 10/11
it was fun because we got to choose what we wanted to do

MarkWaldorf
29-05-2007, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by Antparker
I hated it in lower High School
but in Yr 10/11
it was fun because we got to choose what we wanted to do

See, that's where my school has completely destroyed that choice. For 10/11 we got to pick what we thought would be best for us, for PE. I picked NET GAMES, yet find myself doing ATHLETICS. I really don't see where that comes into NET GAMES. Now I'm in constant dispute with my teacher, so I don't do it anymore. PE is a waste of complete time IMO. I have other lessons to be worrying about for GCSE, and seeing as I don't do PE for GCSE, I don't bother with it.

Kristen
14-06-2007, 07:16 AM
I hated P.E. with a passion at school and I hated it how you had to do long runs and were pushed and pushed and pushed.
I'm not a sporty person but looking back it kept me healthy and it wasn't that bad. I had a great group of friends so I was never laughed at or anything even if I was a bit unco :laugh:

cgimusic
14-06-2007, 10:05 PM
P.E. Sucks. What's the point?

Emilee
15-06-2007, 06:55 PM
OMG! Whats the point! I love p.e!!! GCSE is awesome! i love it so much.

I cant wait for sports day.. we have interform games like: softball, rounders, basketball... etc...