VENOM (2018) [starring Tom Hardy]

[LaLaLand]

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I'm intrigued but they're calling Venom an anti-hero... He's not! Deadpool is an anti-hero, Venom was a straight up villain.

:shrug:

Released October 5th.

[LaLaLand]

Poster:

http://media.comicbook.com/2018/04/venom-poster-released-1104463.jpeg

[Barry.]

Looks pretty good.

[RileyH]

perched!

[Marsh.]

That CGI is a tad too... laughable?

[LaLaLand]

It's not the CGI I'm worried about, it's the plot.

Venom has forever and always been a pure villain and they're trying to make him out as being an "anti-hero" here. Not gonna end well.

[Marsh.]

Looks more interesting to me than the Thor/Iron Man stuff which hasn't interested me in ages. :laugh:

But, yeah, the CGI on his transformation doesn't look... finished?

[Tom4784]

Venom's been an anti-hero since the 90's.

It looks okay, I don't like Tom Hardy though.

[Brother Leon]

Venom does end up an anti hero eventually tbf. Don’t agree on it being the case right away though.

[LaLaLand]

Ughhhhhhh he'll always be a villain to me </3

[Marsh.]

Spiderman the real villain?

[LaLaLand]

Spiderman the real villain?

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[Wizard.]

Spiderman the real villain?

once you go black you never go back

[LaLaLand]

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[JerseyWins]

Just saw these 2 trailers the other day. Looks incredible to me and I'm not that big on the superhero/supervillain/action movies!

[ethanjames]

looks terrible smh

[Nancy.]

I'm not usually a fan of super-hero/villain movies but this looks rather good.
and what's most appealing is Tom Hardy takes the main part :love: so I just might go and see this one. (Released 3rd of October)

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https://yourlondonguide.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Venom-movie-release-date-London.jpg

[Niamh.]

Tom Hardy says he based his portrayal of Venom in part on Conor McGregor

https://www.joe.ie/movies-tv/tom-hardy-conor-mcgregor-635939

[Brother Leon]

Bad news that it’s PG13.. was hoping it would really be gruesome.

[JerseyWins]

I'm not usually a fan of super-hero/villain movies but this looks rather good.
and what's most appealing is Tom Hardy takes the main part :love: so I just might go and see this one. (Released 3rd of October)

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https://yourlondonguide.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Venom-movie-release-date-London.jpg
Yeah same here. I can't wait for this movie, already made plans to go see it right away when it comes out :clap1:

[Tony Montana]

Hyped as **** for this film but i still can get my head over a Venom Film without Spidey.

Still Excited though. I just hope this Doesn't flop

[Smithy]

Bad news that it’s PG13.. was hoping it would really be gruesome.

I just saw this online, I was hoping for something more Deadpool-esque but obviously not.

The fact that not a single review has been released for the film doesn't fill me with hope either.

The anti-hero genre is so much more interesting than the hero genre and im gonna be annoyed if this ends up being shiy

[Smithy]

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Oof, knew they’d ****ed it up with the reviews being held back for so long

[Brother Leon]

Not Riz Ahmed flopping his performance:fist:

[Tony Montana]

Disappointed at those Reviews

[Tom4784]

Sony needs to extend the deal it has with Marvel to all of the Sony owned characters. It's looking like they don't know what they are doing. The whole 'dated' rationality just shows that they haven't learned from Amazing Spiderman 2 which felt like it was pulled out of the 90's.

Let Marvel handle the creative side and just co-produce the films, that's what Sony needs to do.

[Nancy.]

Here's some news / information on why "Venom" is getting so many negative reviews.

Lady Gaga Stans Are Telling People Not To Watch "Venom" And It Has Caused Chaos
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/krishrach/venom-a-star-is-born-twitter-stans-review

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[Tom4784]

Because all the verified reviewers are just hoping to sabotage Venom for the benefit of A Star is Born? Those are the only impressions anyone cares about, ain't nobody paying attention to no namer reviewers. A non-story.

[James]

I've seen some good reviews of it, or at least some that say it is fairly enjoyable.

[Smithy]

Because all the verified reviewers are just hoping to sabotage Venom for the benefit of A Star is Born? Those are the only impressions anyone cares about, ain't nobody paying attention to no namer reviewers. A non-story.

Why didn’t venom just buy good reviews? I thought it was a common marketing trick? :conf::conf:

[Nancy.]

Why didn’t venom just buy good reviews? I thought it was a common marketing trick? :conf::conf:

Maybe Sony wants their movies to do well on their own merit without resorting to underhand tactics like Warner Bros (a company which is now part owner of Rotten Tomatoes).

[Smithy]

Maybe Sony wants their movies to do well on their own merit without resorting to underhand tactics like Warner Bros (a company which is now part owner of Rotten Tomatoes).

Well you’d think a film with such a large budget they’d want to guarantee a return, if it was a smaller budget it wouldn’t really matter I suppose :shrug: guess buying reviews is just a stupid rumour!

Not really sure what Warner Bros has to do with this :conf2: nor what them being an owner implies, reviews are submitted by independent reviewers to RT, RT is just like MC where numerous reviews are noted :conf2:

[Tom4784]

Maybe Sony wants their movies to do well on their own merit without resorting to underhand tactics like Warner Bros (a company which is now part owner of Rotten Tomatoes).

What is any of this based off apart from your hatred of Lady Gaga?

Rotten Tomatoes gathers critical reviews from other places and delivers a percentage based on the review scores, it's not really something that can be abused unless you're trying to make out that Warner Bros (but let's be real, you're referring to Lady Gaga here) somehow has bought reviews from pretty much every professional reviewer out there that has given ASIB a good review?

As I said before, very few people care about audience scores since they won't affect whether someone chooses to see a film so Venom or Gaga fans trashing each others' films doesn't really matter.

It's fine to hate something but when you're spinning obsessive stories to discredit it then that's when things get worrying.

[James]

Gaga fans vs Marvel fans is one of the cultural battles that symbolises our time, I think.

[Nancy.]

Someone in DS has just posted a review:

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/comment/91433159#Comment_91433159

"Just seen Venom...

And actually, it was far better than I thought it would be. It probably helped that it was only 90 minutes long and in these days of 2hr superhero opus', its brevity was welcome.

Main thoughts.. The film move pretty swiftly, from Brock's downfall to (kind of) redemption when he's consumed by the "parasite", and it's these internalised conversations between Eddie and Venom that are the film's strong points. On the action front, there are two main set pieces; the street chase scene and a confrontation with a SWAT team, which features some great visual flourishes (smokes & lighting used to good effect).

The plot is serviceable enough with clearly drawn good / bad guys and, a narrative suggesting a bigger threat than Venom was at stake. Riz Ahmed as the chief baddie was fine, I had no real issues with him. More out of place was Michelle Williams as Brock's love interest. There is violence, but most of this is off screen or too quick to register. A 15 certificate is appropriate.

The end smack-down was similar to the CGI slugfest seen in The Incredible Hulk (Ed Norton), but thankfully there was better stuff beforehand, so I could forgive this oft seen climax. The obligatory (read) annoying appearance of Stan Lee elicited the usual groan from me (takes you out of the movie. Give it up already Stan!), but overall I quite enjoyed this version of Venom. If anything, at least it should bury the abdominal take on the character from Spider-Man 3.

Though I was initially annoyed with Hardy's affected, rasping voice, I gave in and just went with it. Given his "loser" status, it seemed a decent enough fit. With the mid-credit scene, a sequel seems on the cards and I don't think I'd mind this.

Whilst it's no classic Spider-Man 2, Venom is nowhere near as bad as the likes of Fant4Stic or The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

Rating - 4/5. Definitely worth a watch."

[LaLaLand]

It should have been an 18, full-on "gore fest" tbh to set it apart from the crowd. But nevertheless, I'm intrigued.

[Nancy.]

It should have been an 18, full-on "gore fest" tbh to set it apart from the crowd. But nevertheless, I'm intrigued.

Yes, I agree. I'm going to see it anyway regardless of the "bad reviews". :dance:

[LaLaLand]

Yes, I agree. I'm going to see it anyway regardless of the "bad reviews". :dance:

They could have even scheduled the release for Halloween, the whole Venom storyline would have been perfect for a sci-fi horror movie.

Let us know what you think when you've seen it!

[Nancy.]

They could have even scheduled the release for Halloween, the whole Venom storyline would have been perfect for a sci-fi horror movie.

Let us know what you think when you've seen it!

I will, but I doubt anyone (apart from Douglas and yourself) will take any notice, tbh. :laugh:
I guess they decided to release it earlier in the month to avoid the stiff competition like "Halloween" - Which is said to be amazing.

[Tony Montana]

Most of the reviews I've seen have all been negative so far and the film has a 31% on rotten tomatoes.

I will probably still watch it though.

[Smithy]

Most of the reviews I've seen have all been negative so far and the film has a 31% on rotten tomatoes.

I will probably still watch it though.

I’m just waiting till it’s online now, nothing worse than paying to see a film and it ends up being ****e

[Shaun]

Gaga fans vs Marvel fans is one of the cultural battles that symbolises our time, I think.

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[Tony Montana]

I’m just waiting till it’s online now, nothing worse than paying to see a film and it ends up being ****e

I would wait till it’s online too but it’s difficult to find one with good quality. Besides it’s not the first time I’ve watched a comic Book film that had bad reviews.

[James]

Bad news that it’s PG13.. was hoping it would really be gruesome.

It's rated 15 in the UK. Usually US PG13 gets 12A.


VENOM is a US sci-fi action fantasy in which alien organisms are brought back to Earth.

Threat

There are a number of sequences in which people are threatened and attacked by the alien organisms, or by people into whose bodies the aliens have entered.

Horror sequences include the alien organisms entering people's bodies, causing their limbs to distort and their bones to crack. There is sight of injury detail, including protruding bones.

Violence

Stronger moments of violence include people being impaled by the alien organisms, sometimes with bloody detail, and people being eaten by the aliens. There is also moderate action violence throughout, including heavy punches, kicks and other blows as well as use of tasers.

There is also infrequent strong language ('******'), alongside milder bad language (eg 'pussy', '****'). There are sequences in which live animals appear to be eaten but no animals were harmed in the making of the film.


https://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/venom-film-0

[Jordan.]

Saw it tonight it waa great, the critics can ROT

[JerseyWins]

Don't listen to the poor reviews, this was a good movie :clap1: Easy 9/10 for me

[Nancy.]

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/10/06/venom-opening-weekend-box-office/
Venom is headed for a record-breaking opening weekend win at the box office.

Venom is projected to earn approximately $80 million in its opening weekend at the box office following a record-breaking preview night. A Star Is Born, the Lady Gaga film that fans on the internet turned into a nemesis for Venom, will come in second with about $45 million in its opening weekend.

Both films are blowing past initial projections. Those projections had Venom pegged for $60 million tops. Venom will easily become the biggest October box office opening of all time, flying past previous record-holder Gravity, which opened to $55.8 million in 2013.

Venom stars Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock, the journalist who bonds to an alien symbiote to become the Spider-Man villain and then antihero called Venom. Tough Venom’s origin is tied tightly to Spidey in the Marvel Comics universe, Sony is using Venom as a launchpad for its own universe of films focused on Spider-Man supporting characters such as Morbius, Black Cat, Silver Sable, and Nightwatch.

Venom is directed by Ruben Fleischer (Zombieland) and was made with a $100 million budget.

Venom has received mostly negative reviews from critics, managing only a 32 percent Rotten Tomatoes score, but fans have been much more positive on the film, awarding it an 88 percent audience score.

[Nancy.]

We all knew Venom would be number one this weekend, but I didn't expect it to do THAT well. Looking forward to watching it tomorrow with the family... :dance:

Despite a 28% Rotten Tomatoes score, 'Venom' has already broken a box-office record
http://uk.businessinsider.com/venom-breakes-a-box-office-record-despite-low-rotten-tomatoes-score-2018-10

‘Venom’ to Devour October Box Office Record With $80 Million"
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8478561/weekend-box-office-venom-tom-hardy-massive-80m-star-is-born-lady-gaga-singing-to-40m

Weekend Box Office: 'Venom' Heads for Massive $80M
https://variety.com/2018/film/box-office/venom-a-star-is-born-box-office-the-hate-u-give-loving-pablo-1202971215/

[Tony Montana]

We all knew Venom would be number one this weekend, but I didn't expect it to do THAT well. Looking forward to watching it tomorrow with the family... :dance:

Despite a 28% Rotten Tomatoes score, 'Venom' has already broken a box-office record
http://uk.businessinsider.com/venom-breakes-a-box-office-record-despite-low-rotten-tomatoes-score-2018-10

‘Venom’ to Devour October Box Office Record With $80 Million"
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8478561/weekend-box-office-venom-tom-hardy-massive-80m-star-is-born-lady-gaga-singing-to-40m

Weekend Box Office: 'Venom' Heads for Massive $80M
https://variety.com/2018/film/box-office/venom-a-star-is-born-box-office-the-hate-u-give-loving-pablo-1202971215/

Let us know what you think of it. If it’s good I might watch it

[Tom4784]

It's fairly easy to get a big opening as a superhero film, the real test will be whether it can hold on to that audience in the next frame. Being a flash in the pan doesn't mean much.

[Ramsay]

Seen this tonight, thought the first half was piss but the second half was very good so I give this an overall rating of ALRIGHT, I'd watch a sequel

[Nancy.]

Saw it yesterday and quite enjoyed it. It does drag in certain parts, but as a whole it's a fun little action flick - and one's that's quite humourous too. The chase/ fight scenes with Riot were brill. Tom Hardy was amazing as usual.

Of course it isn't the best Marvel movie, but at the same time it's not awful like the "critics" would have you believe. Either see it or don't. It's up to you.

[Tom4784]

I've come back from seeing it. It was okay, a solid 6/10.

The inevitable second film has potential to be great but this one is all over the place. The first half is trash and badly written and the second part is more enjoyable but the film doesn't know what it wants to be. It's part body horror, part sci-fi, part superhero film, part buddy cop film and it's just okay in all it's forms.

Feels a bit dated too, it felt like a film that should have come out 10 years ago.

It also feels kinda toothless too, they really should have pursued an R-rating in America since it would have given the film free reign to be the film it wanted to be. I hope they are smart enough to do that in the sequel as you can't really do Carnage justice without the violence.

[Niamh.]

Saw it last night and I enjoyed it, I think Tom Hardy carried it though, he played the part very well and made it watchable and entertaining

[Niamh.]

Gaga fans vs Marvel fans is one of the cultural battles that symbolises our time, I think.

:laugh:

[Nancy.]

Marvel movies do very well of course, but considering Venom was critically panned and had everything going against it, it was lovely to see it securing #1 and raking in 80 million on opening weekend. :dance:

[Nancy.]

205 MILLION (Globally)

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/993425-venom-breaks-october-opening-record-with-205-million-globally

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/10/07/venom-box-office-7-lessons-205m-weekend-tom-hardy-michelle-williams/#7dfe2fe38dd9

https://deadline.com/2018/10/venom-a-star-is-born-opening-weekend-global-international-box-office-1202478000/

:cheer2::cheer2:

[Nancy.]

Omg, Johnny English is at #2:

Top 10 UK films

1. Venom, £8,031,342 from 556 sites (new)

2. Johnny English Strikes Again, £4,117,692 from 589 sites (new)

3. A Star Is Born, £4,100,196 from 526 sites (new)

4. The House With a Clock in Its Walls, £902,203 from 534 sites. Total: £6,806,751 (three weeks)

5. Night School, £860,262 from 448 sites. Total: £3,122,918 (two weeks)

6. A Simple Favour, £484,975 from 429 sites. Total: £4,475,268 (three weeks)

7. Aida – Met Opera, £302,179 from 204 sites (new)

8. Crazy Rich Asians, £281,478 from 272 sites. Total: £5,403,572 (four weeks)

9. The Nun, £243,153 from 285 sites. Total: £11,099,719 (five weeks)

10. The Wife, £228,950 from 130 sites. Total: £924,023 (two weeks)

[Nancy.]

Oscar Experts say Glenn Close will rule at the Oscars for "The Wife". She was glorious in "Dangerous Liaisons". A deserving actress indeed.

https://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/movies-news-reviews/article218335095.html

[Marsh.]

Oscar Experts say Glenn Close will rule at the Oscars for "The Wife". She was glorious in "Dangerous Liaisons". A deserving actress indeed.

https://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/movies-news-reviews/article218335095.html

Thank you for this Venom related information.

[user104658]

How are the effects? I was watching Spiderman: Homecoming again earlier and noted (as I did in the cinema) that the Sony effects are noticeably different (and inferior) to DisneyMarvel effects. It's especially glaring in the scenes with Iron Man, I guess because we're very familiar with Iron Man in the MCU, but I also noticed it with Spidey himself this time - I guess after having seen him more extensively under Disney in Infinity War. The CGI for him is just a bit... unnatural / not human seeming?

[Marsh.]

The trailer did make it seem cartoonish but I wasn't sure if that was actually the look they were going for?

[Nancy.]

This is interesting considering many said Venom was a flash in a pan and had strong doubts about it holding on to it's audience for the second weekend...

Venom STILL #1 Movie In The World After Solid Second Weekend

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/venom-still-1-movie-world-solid-second-weekend/

[Nancy.]

Current global total stands at $378.1M - and that's before it's released in Japan and China next month..

Venom did that...

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[Marsh.]

I like Tom Hardy. One of his worst performances unfortunately.

[Tom4784]

Current global total stands at $378.1M - and that's before it's released in Japan and China next month..

Venom did that...

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Pretty standard for a superhero film tbh.

[Tom4784]

This is interesting considering many said Venom was a flash in a pan and had strong doubts about it holding on to it's audience for the second weekend...

Venom STILL #1 Movie In The World After Solid Second Weekend

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/venom-still-1-movie-world-solid-second-weekend/

Yeesh at that 55% drop though. It'll fall to third after this week I expect.

1. Halloween
2. ASIB
3. Venom

Is my prediction. ASIB will have a Crazy Rich Asians/Greatest Showman style hold while Venom's gonna fall off a cliff.

[Nancy.]

The point is, a lot of people said (or hoped) Venom would crash and burn after opening weekend, but it's still holding on despite the bad reviews and bitterness from fans of other movies. I don't think anyone's expecting it to be #1 this weekend with Halloween being released - another one I can't wait to see. :dance:

[Marsh.]

There's certainly a lot of bitterness. :)

[Tony Montana]

I like Tom Hardy. One of his worst performances unfortunately.

Was his Performance that Bad? I've read several reviews saying it was the only saving Grace

[Marsh.]

Was his Performance that Bad? I've read several reviews saying it was the only saving Grace

Not bad per se. But certainly one of the worst of his career.

[Nancy.]

:joker::joker:

[Marsh.]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7aTm5M49vNm4hXi0/giphy.gif

[Tom4784]

He does a better job of voicing Venom than he does at playing Eddie.

[Niamh.]

Not bad per se. But certainly one of the worst of his career.I thought he was great in it

[Nancy.]

Venom debuts with 111 million in China

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