Kanye West criticizes Obama and praises Trump

[arista]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/25/politics/kanye-west-donald-trump-twitter/index.html

'The mob can't make me not love him'


Yes Trump and Kayne West - mates

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Sign Of The Times

[Nicky91]

Kanye's newest song: My Bro Trump


:hehe:

[Alf]

How dare Kanye go off script? The mainstream media will crucify him. That's the end for the Kardashians if Kim stands by her man.

[Nicky91]

How dare Kanye go off script? The mainstream media will crucify him. That's the end for the Kardashians if Kim stands by her man.

Kardashians can Always make money with Life of Kylie ;)

[user104658]

This isn't really new or "off script", Kanye has been kicking around with Trump for ages.

[Alf]

This isn't really new or "off script", Kanye has been kicking around with Trump for ages.All in the media and Hollywood have been kicking around with Trump for years, until he took on the establishment and beat it.

[user104658]

All in the media and Hollywood have been kicking around with Trump for years, until he took on the establishment and beat it.

Yes but Kanye has been wining and dining with him many times SINCE last January... he's a pretty well established Trump supporter. They sort of parade him around like "See?? Black people like Trump after all!"... "And my cousin's best friend's boyfriend is black!"

[Niamh.]

Yes but Kanye has been wining and dining with him many times SINCE last January... he's a pretty well established Trump supporter. They sort of parade him around like "See?? Black people like Trump after all!"... "And my cousin's best friend's boyfriend is black!"

:hehe:

[Oliver_W]

You mean a successful, self-made man supports a businessman Republican? Sacre bleu.

[Greg!]

He's lost the plot

[GiRTh]

Of course Kanye likes Donnie. They both have that Dragon energy.

[arista]

This isn't really new or "off script", Kanye has been kicking around with Trump for ages.

Yes and yesterday he
Told the Left Wing MOB off.

Making headline news all over USA

[arista]

He's lost the plot

The Plot
Democrats - STILL have No New Leader


They have Fecking Lost the plot

[MTVN]

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[The Slim Reaper]

The Plot
Democrats - STILL have No New Leader


They have Fecking Lost the plot

Parties don't really have leaders in the US, and it's actually a good strategy to just stand back and watch republicans constantly throw up on themselves at every opportunity.

I hope Elizabeth Warren runs for president when the time comes but at the moment, the old maxim of "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake," rings more than true.

[arista]

Parties don't really have leaders in the US, and it's actually a good strategy to just stand back and watch republicans constantly throw up on themselves at every opportunity.

I hope Elizabeth Warren runs for president when the time comes but at the moment, the old maxim of "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake," rings more than true.

chicken

[Marsh.]

Wow, shocker that Kanye is an idiot with stupid opinions. Oh wait, that's pretty well documented. He also married Kim Kardashian for her business acumen.

[Maru]

It really does make him that much more respectable in my book, to go against the grain and stick to his guns like this... he really does only care about those who "get it" ... I mean, right now it is not popular to be a conservative in Hollywood/mainstream and many of those live in secret ... but sometime in the future, when more folk come out of the woodwork in the mainstream media and rally against the bandwagon, what he's said in social media is going to be seen as a key moment... is my opinion of the whole thing.

[montblanc]

i've never liked him anyways tbh

great music tho :love:

[Maru]

kim kardashian says kanye west is "being himself" and hit back at claims he's experiencing mental health issues.

The 37-year-old jumped to her husband's defence after he was criticised for pro-trump messages including calling the us president his "brother".

"to the media trying to demonize my husband let me just say this," she tweeted.

"your commentary on kanye being erratic and his tweets being disturbing is actually scary."

in a flurry of messages, kanye updated fans on new music, his clothing line and shared his appreciation for the us leader.

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[Oliver_W]

It is a bit ... creepy how people turn on celebrities just for which box they would leave a pencil in. How can they bring themselves to even care that much?

[montblanc]

It is a bit ... creepy how people turn on celebrities just for which box they would leave a pencil in. How can they bring themselves to even care that much?

it has more to do with him supporting trump himself rather than the actual political party tbh

i understand why people are getting mad

[Marsh.]

Kanye does it for attention, not because he has any strong beliefs.

Did people genuinely believe he ran on stage during Taylor Swift's acceptance speech because he felt THAT strongly about Beyonce's album?

Nah, he does things to draw attention to Kanye.

[Maru]

Kanye does it for attention, not because he has any strong beliefs.

Did people genuinely believe he ran on stage during Taylor Swift's acceptance speech because he felt THAT strongly about Beyonce's album?

Nah, he does things to draw attention to Kanye.

I've run into quite a few highly intelligent creative narcissists in my life. Some who have been very close friends. Some with very unique talents that have been recognized at levels most people don't really experience... most all were creatives in some fashion and highly narcissistic when it came to their levels. In fact, I would say often narcissism is up there in terms of the list of requirements necessary to break into fields that are historically nearly impossible to break into... not many people are and can be narcissistic in that sense... a lot of people we would typically consider narcissistic I would say are mislabeled... really just have a superiority complex, but a weak sense of self... which is a cover for low-self esteem, not a steady disposition ... is not the same as the person who would believe enough in themselves to take their narcissism to that level, if you know what I mean...

Usually when someone like that makes their views known, it's not necessarily meant to be provocative, but they do see their purpose as rocking the boat... "Well what I see"... because they themselves see their input as being industrious, when it comes to envisioning, thinking outside the box of the sheeple, etc... so they prefer to break the herd apart... sometimes though it is intentionally to to test to see if what they say hits a nerve... which is what I suspect Kanye is doing, and what I think Trump is often doing with his gd tweeting -_-... When it does create a major reaction, then they think, "Oh I see then!... maybe I am going the right direction... it's getting underneath their skins, causing many people to not just react, but respond in a big way... so what I'm doing is the right thing... I've found a way to get in touch with the source of it... "... and most of the time, for a creative narcissist, the issue is always other people... i.e. they need to fix society, people need to be "taught" they are wrong, that what they think is leading them the wrong direction, etc...

They do tend to think of the rest of society in general is "OK" with mediocre, i.e. they're not really "seeing" the world... just kind of living it and sticking their head in the ground sort of thing... happy to blend in, agree and regurgitate what they consider utterly stupid ideas... and they think most people cannot be truly creative in a sheep mentality, etc... so they see themselves as people who wake others in that sense.

In fact, they get higher degrees of stimulation from interacting with the world on a meticulous level and in their mission to create something that is "world changing"... otherwise, it's boring because they find shallowness to be boring and they find a vast majority of society is highly predictable and mundane... so they crave the finer things in life, the non-mundane and they seek like personalities who aren't just followers of a group and happily working for others, and who actually see themselves as individuals... what is the point of being a creative if they're just going to do what is easiest, most profitable (though it does matter to an extent if you want to achieve greater things and gain recognition for it), will get "cheap" fame, etc... they would like to do what is visionary... is what they would say about their devotion to their craft... and is my experience of those types of mindsets.

No one would accuse Steve Jobs of not believing the things he says. I think obviously he fits that personality type. I think what a lot of people misunderstand about Trump too, is that actually he is quite high in intelligence... but like Steve Jobs and Kanye, he has some pretty devastating flaws (:laugh:) that make them hard to relate to (irl) for the mass majority of folk in society, so some versions of intelligence in this category may not really be something most people can identify much less appreciate at least on that level... and basic social interactions, small talk, doesn't really appeal to them either... keeping in mind, the same people they've managed to piss off currently/previously... they have all gone against the herd at some point and paid a heavy price from those same folk... but because they see them all part of the "sheeple", for lack of a better term, they feel that only affirms they're going in the right direction... actually... they also know people are fickle and can change their minds when shown the error of their ways... so in their mind, they'll be proven right eventually... if even past death... they're willing to wait as long as necessary...

So it comes as no surprise to me that Kanye would feel like they're like both sharing the same bandwidth in this world, and are each other's "spirit animals" in that sense.... if he is a creative and views the world in that large of a fashion, then that's pretty typical of narcissistic creatives... who view themselves as black sheep or as wolves in a pack of sheeple... someone who most others would be allergic to or have a strange love/hate relationship with... is I guess what he meant by dragon's energy or whatever...

But yes, TLDR... narcissists really do believe the crazy stuff they say. In fact, their opinion of things dominates their world view and guides their purpose in life... typical people's opinion probably doesn't even register with them in that fashion... only that it's purpose is to validate/support their worldview... is my opinion...

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[Maru]

Also dragon's energy re-reminds me of this guy...

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#tigerblood maaan

[Marsh.]

I've run into quite a few highly intelligent creative narcissists in my life. Some who have been very close friends. Some with very unique talents that have been recognized at levels most people don't really experience... most all were creatives in some fashion and highly narcissistic when it came to their levels. In fact, I would say often narcissism is up there in terms of the list of requirements necessary to break into fields that are historically nearly impossible to break into... not many people are and can be narcissistic in that sense... a lot of people we would typically consider narcissistic I would say are mislabeled... really just have a superiority complex, but a weak sense of self... which is a cover for low-self esteem, not a steady disposition ... is not the same as the person who would believe enough in themselves to take their narcissism to that level, if you know what I mean...

Usually when someone like that makes their views known, it's not necessarily meant to be provocative, but they do see their purpose as rocking the boat... "Well what I see"... because they themselves see their input as being industrious, when it comes to envisioning, thinking outside the box of the sheeple, etc... so they prefer to break the herd apart... sometimes though it is intentionally to to test to see if what they say hits a nerve... which is what I suspect Kanye is doing, and what I think Trump is often doing with his gd tweeting -_-... When it does create a major reaction, then they think, "Oh I see then!... maybe I am going the right direction... it's getting underneath their skins, causing many people to not just react, but respond in a big way... so what I'm doing is the right thing... I've found a way to get in touch with the source of it... "... and most of the time, for a creative narcissist, the issue is always other people... i.e. they need to fix society, people need to be "taught" they are wrong, that what they think is leading them the wrong direction, etc...

They do tend to think of the rest of society in general is "OK" with mediocre, i.e. they're not really "seeing" the world... just kind of living it and sticking their head in the ground sort of thing... happy to blend in, agree and regurgitate what they consider utterly stupid ideas... and they think most people cannot be truly creative in a sheep mentality, etc... so they see themselves as people who wake others in that sense.

In fact, they get higher degrees of stimulation from interacting with the world on a meticulous level and in their mission to create something that is "world changing"... otherwise, it's boring because they find shallowness to be boring and they find a vast majority of society is highly predictable and mundane... so they crave the finer things in life, the non-mundane and they seek like personalities who aren't just followers of a group and happily working for others, and who actually see themselves as individuals... what is the point of being a creative if they're just going to do what is easiest, most profitable (though it does matter to an extent if you want to achieve greater things and gain recognition for it), will get "cheap" fame, etc... they would like to do what is visionary... is what they would say about their devotion to their craft... and is my experience of those types of mindsets.

No one would accuse Steve Jobs of not believing the things he says. I think obviously he fits that personality type. I think what a lot of people misunderstand about Trump too, is that actually he is quite high in intelligence... but like Steve Jobs and Kanye, he has some pretty devastating flaws ([emoji23]) that make them hard to relate to (irl) for the mass majority of folk in society, so some versions of intelligence in this category may not really be something most people can identify much less appreciate at least on that level... and basic social interactions, small talk, doesn't really appeal to them either... keeping in mind, the same people they've managed to piss off currently/previously... they have all gone against the herd at some point and paid a heavy price from those same folk... but because they see them all part of the "sheeple", for lack of a better term, they feel that only affirms they're going in the right direction... actually... they also know people are fickle and can change their minds when shown the error of their ways... so in their mind, they'll be proven right eventually... if even past death... they're willing to wait as long as necessary...

So it comes as no surprise to me that Kanye would feel like they're like both sharing the same bandwidth in this world, and are each other's "spirit animals" in that sense.... if he is a creative and views the world in that large of a fashion, then that's pretty typical of narcissistic creatives... who view themselves as black sheep or as wolves in a pack of sheeple... someone who most others would be allergic to or have a strange love/hate relationship with... is I guess what he meant by dragon's energy or whatever...

But yes, TLDR... narcissists really do believe the crazy stuff they say. In fact, their opinion of things dominates their world view and guides their purpose in life... typical people's opinion probably doesn't even register with them in that fashion... only that it's purpose is to validate/support their worldview... is my opinion...

Edited some thingsYeah, no, Kanye's a tool.

[kirklancaster]

I've run into quite a few highly intelligent creative narcissists in my life. Some who have been very close friends. Some with very unique talents that have been recognized at levels most people don't really experience... most all were creatives in some fashion and highly narcissistic when it came to their levels. In fact, I would say often narcissism is up there in terms of the list of requirements necessary to break into fields that are historically nearly impossible to break into... not many people are and can be narcissistic in that sense... a lot of people we would typically consider narcissistic I would say are mislabeled... really just have a superiority complex, but a weak sense of self... which is a cover for low-self esteem, not a steady disposition ... is not the same as the person who would believe enough in themselves to take their narcissism to that level, if you know what I mean...

Usually when someone like that makes their views known, it's not necessarily meant to be provocative, but they do see their purpose as rocking the boat... "Well what I see"... because they themselves see their input as being industrious, when it comes to envisioning, thinking outside the box of the sheeple, etc... so they prefer to break the herd apart... sometimes though it is intentionally to to test to see if what they say hits a nerve... which is what I suspect Kanye is doing, and what I think Trump is often doing with his gd tweeting -_-... When it does create a major reaction, then they think, "Oh I see then!... maybe I am going the right direction... it's getting underneath their skins, causing many people to not just react, but respond in a big way... so what I'm doing is the right thing... I've found a way to get in touch with the source of it... "... and most of the time, for a creative narcissist, the issue is always other people... i.e. they need to fix society, people need to be "taught" they are wrong, that what they think is leading them the wrong direction, etc...

They do tend to think of the rest of society in general is "OK" with mediocre, i.e. they're not really "seeing" the world... just kind of living it and sticking their head in the ground sort of thing... happy to blend in, agree and regurgitate what they consider utterly stupid ideas... and they think most people cannot be truly creative in a sheep mentality, etc... so they see themselves as people who wake others in that sense.

In fact, they get higher degrees of stimulation from interacting with the world on a meticulous level and in their mission to create something that is "world changing"... otherwise, it's boring because they find shallowness to be boring and they find a vast majority of society is highly predictable and mundane... so they crave the finer things in life, the non-mundane and they seek like personalities who aren't just followers of a group and happily working for others, and who actually see themselves as individuals... what is the point of being a creative if they're just going to do what is easiest, most profitable (though it does matter to an extent if you want to achieve greater things and gain recognition for it), will get "cheap" fame, etc... they would like to do what is visionary... is what they would say about their devotion to their craft... and is my experience of those types of mindsets.

No one would accuse Steve Jobs of not believing the things he says. I think obviously he fits that personality type. I think what a lot of people misunderstand about Trump too, is that actually he is quite high in intelligence... but like Steve Jobs and Kanye, he has some pretty devastating flaws (:laugh:) that make them hard to relate to (irl) for the mass majority of folk in society, so some versions of intelligence in this category may not really be something most people can identify much less appreciate at least on that level... and basic social interactions, small talk, doesn't really appeal to them either... keeping in mind, the same people they've managed to piss off currently/previously... they have all gone against the herd at some point and paid a heavy price from those same folk... but because they see them all part of the "sheeple", for lack of a better term, they feel that only affirms they're going in the right direction... actually... they also know people are fickle and can change their minds when shown the error of their ways... so in their mind, they'll be proven right eventually... if even past death... they're willing to wait as long as necessary...

So it comes as no surprise to me that Kanye would feel like they're like both sharing the same bandwidth in this world, and are each other's "spirit animals" in that sense.... if he is a creative and views the world in that large of a fashion, then that's pretty typical of narcissistic creatives... who view themselves as black sheep or as wolves in a pack of sheeple... someone who most others would be allergic to or have a strange love/hate relationship with... is I guess what he meant by dragon's energy or whatever...

But yes, TLDR... narcissists really do believe the crazy stuff they say. In fact, their opinion of things dominates their world view and guides their purpose in life... typical people's opinion probably doesn't even register with them in that fashion... only that it's purpose is to validate/support their worldview... is my opinion...

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:clap1::clap1::clap1: What a supremely detailed analytical post, Maru.

[user104658]

It is a bit ... creepy how people turn on celebrities just for which box they would leave a pencil in. How can they bring themselves to even care that much?Yes, Kanye was universally adored before he came out as a Trump supporter.

:umm2:...

[user104658]

But yes, they're two people in a very similar boat;

They have achieved massive success and yet, nonetheless, are perceived as "a joke" and the harder they try to be taken seriously, the funnier the joke becomes.

"How can you laugh at me?? Look at all I've achieved! Look at everything I've done! Look at all that I have!"

"lol still ridiculous [emoji23]"

"Whyyyyyyyy!!!"

I suppose it must be frustrating, and it's inevitable that such people would be drawn to each other.

[Withano]

News: idiot likes idiot

:shrug: nothing new here

[GiRTh]

Self absorbed narcissistic idiot likes fellow self absorbed narcissistic idiot :shrug:

I wonder what they see each other?

[Oliver_W]

Yes, Kanye was universally adored before he came out as a Trump supporter.

:umm2:...

ha, true.

When Shania Twain said she'd have voted for Trump, Twitter was full of people sperging out, saying she was "cancelled". I'm not sure if she was universally adored, my impression was she was at best quite liked, at worst largely forgotten?

[arista]

Self absorbed narcissistic idiot likes fellow self absorbed narcissistic idiot :shrug:

I wonder what they see each other?


Kayne like Business deals
thats the connection,
Long before Trump became President.

[Maru]

ha, true.

When Shania Twain said she'd have voted for Trump, Twitter was full of people sperging out, saying she was "cancelled". I'm not sure if she was universally adored, my impression was she was at best quite liked, at worst largely forgotten?

Many folk are fickle I think when it comes to celebrity. Most reasons they have for "liking" others are largely superficial ones... but get right down to it, the knitty gritty.. and people find reasons to dislike someone if they no longer fit within some perceived box.

We see this kind of thing play out in CBB/BB sections every season... people like to think they're backing a "winner"... or at least someone who can maybe rise to that challenge... but then people also love to get behind a good underdog... so it's always interesting to see how those fandoms play out. Especially when pet issues or political narratives come into play... it's easy to see where people duck down when their fav is no longer one of the crowd favorite(s).

[GiRTh]

Can't wait for the Rally tonight in Michigan. I might even stay up to watch it. I'm sure Donnies gonna have a few things to get off his chest. Having a rally on the same day as the White House Correspondence dinner though :shrug:

[Maru]

Yes, Kanye was universally adored before he came out as a Trump supporter.

:umm2:...

No, I think like Trump, there was a lot of love/hate... but that's 99% of celebrity when we get down to it... both of them have been using their Twitter accounts to create interest and controversy for years now, and both are very good at generating an impressive amount of engagement through that platform... and it has been interesting to see Twitter to evolve from being a trite celebrity+fanbase platform where average people log their intellectual bowel movements, to now a major player in the political atmosphere... they and the Kardashians have all had a huge influence in getting Twitter to where it is today... and to be fair, a lot of folk, particularly celebrity, have done everything to emulate that kind of success... and I think Kanye's brand is an example of that.

[Maru]

Can't wait for the Rally tonight in Michigan. I might even stay up to watch it. I'm sure Donnies gonna have a few things to get off his chest. Having a rally on the same day as the White House Correspondence dinner though :shrug:

Is it already time for that (again)? What a year... o_o

[Marsh.]

I've run into quite a few highly intelligent creative narcissists in my life. Some who have been very close friends. Some with very unique talents that have been recognized at levels most people don't really experience... most all were creatives in some fashion and highly narcissistic when it came to their levels. In fact, I would say often narcissism is up there in terms of the list of requirements necessary to break into fields that are historically nearly impossible to break into... not many people are and can be narcissistic in that sense... a lot of people we would typically consider narcissistic I would say are mislabeled... really just have a superiority complex, but a weak sense of self... which is a cover for low-self esteem, not a steady disposition ... is not the same as the person who would believe enough in themselves to take their narcissism to that level, if you know what I mean...

Usually when someone like that makes their views known, it's not necessarily meant to be provocative, but they do see their purpose as rocking the boat... "Well what I see"... because they themselves see their input as being industrious, when it comes to envisioning, thinking outside the box of the sheeple, etc... so they prefer to break the herd apart... sometimes though it is intentionally to to test to see if what they say hits a nerve... which is what I suspect Kanye is doing, and what I think Trump is often doing with his gd tweeting -_-... When it does create a major reaction, then they think, "Oh I see then!... maybe I am going the right direction... it's getting underneath their skins, causing many people to not just react, but respond in a big way... so what I'm doing is the right thing... I've found a way to get in touch with the source of it... "... and most of the time, for a creative narcissist, the issue is always other people... i.e. they need to fix society, people need to be "taught" they are wrong, that what they think is leading them the wrong direction, etc...

They do tend to think of the rest of society in general is "OK" with mediocre, i.e. they're not really "seeing" the world... just kind of living it and sticking their head in the ground sort of thing... happy to blend in, agree and regurgitate what they consider utterly stupid ideas... and they think most people cannot be truly creative in a sheep mentality, etc... so they see themselves as people who wake others in that sense.

In fact, they get higher degrees of stimulation from interacting with the world on a meticulous level and in their mission to create something that is "world changing"... otherwise, it's boring because they find shallowness to be boring and they find a vast majority of society is highly predictable and mundane... so they crave the finer things in life, the non-mundane and they seek like personalities who aren't just followers of a group and happily working for others, and who actually see themselves as individuals... what is the point of being a creative if they're just going to do what is easiest, most profitable (though it does matter to an extent if you want to achieve greater things and gain recognition for it), will get "cheap" fame, etc... they would like to do what is visionary... is what they would say about their devotion to their craft... and is my experience of those types of mindsets.

No one would accuse Steve Jobs of not believing the things he says. I think obviously he fits that personality type. I think what a lot of people misunderstand about Trump too, is that actually he is quite high in intelligence... but like Steve Jobs and Kanye, he has some pretty devastating flaws (:laugh:) that make them hard to relate to (irl) for the mass majority of folk in society, so some versions of intelligence in this category may not really be something most people can identify much less appreciate at least on that level... and basic social interactions, small talk, doesn't really appeal to them either... keeping in mind, the same people they've managed to piss off currently/previously... they have all gone against the herd at some point and paid a heavy price from those same folk... but because they see them all part of the "sheeple", for lack of a better term, they feel that only affirms they're going in the right direction... actually... they also know people are fickle and can change their minds when shown the error of their ways... so in their mind, they'll be proven right eventually... if even past death... they're willing to wait as long as necessary...

So it comes as no surprise to me that Kanye would feel like they're like both sharing the same bandwidth in this world, and are each other's "spirit animals" in that sense.... if he is a creative and views the world in that large of a fashion, then that's pretty typical of narcissistic creatives... who view themselves as black sheep or as wolves in a pack of sheeple... someone who most others would be allergic to or have a strange love/hate relationship with... is I guess what he meant by dragon's energy or whatever...

But yes, TLDR... narcissists really do believe the crazy stuff they say. In fact, their opinion of things dominates their world view and guides their purpose in life... typical people's opinion probably doesn't even register with them in that fashion... only that it's purpose is to validate/support their worldview... is my opinion...

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I don't really care whether he's intelligent one way or the other tbh.

He does things like this the same reason his wife and her odious family does theirs... money and fame.

He may well be a genuine fan of Trump, but that's not the driving factor behind this cringeworthy "bromance".

[reece(:]

Nearly as criminal as interrupting Taylor

[Marsh.]

Nearly as criminal as interrupting Taylor

Him to repeat that at the next inauguration when Trump must step down?

[Brother Leon]

Couldn't give a ****. The guy is a living, breathing Musical Legend. Ready for the new Album.

[Marsh.]

Here for Trump getting an assassination attempt but they hit Kanye instead.

[Alf]

This next song is dedicated to Stormy Daniels


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