View Full Version : What Would You Do 3.
kirklancaster
13-05-2018, 06:47 AM
You are with friends at a corner table in a cosy, candle-lit little bistro when in walks an obviously deranged man wielding a knife but seemingly having no other weapons.
He stands with his back to you shouting loudly in Arabic including the words "Allah Akhbar" so he is patently a 'terrorist'.
He stabs a nearby seated customer and continues to slash at him.
Near you is a very heavy solid brass floor candlestick - you glance at it then at the terrorist's back.
Do you:
a) Pick it up and smash it across his head until he falls to the ground?
b) Tell your bigger, stronger mate to smash the terrorist with it?
c) Do nothing and pray that the terrorist does not kill you?
d) Just try to flee?
Honest answers please - though I realise that it is impossible to really KNOW what any of us would really do in such a situation - I' feel sure that I would do a).
I think about this a lot, and know i would confront them.
Not because im brave or anything, just dont really care what happens to me anymore.
Amy Jade
13-05-2018, 07:05 AM
I would like to think I would take action but it would definitely depend on other factors.
Kazanne
13-05-2018, 07:16 AM
You are with friends at a corner table in a cosy, candle-lit little bistro when in walks an obviously deranged man wielding a knife but seemingly having no other weapons.
He stands with his back to you shouting loudly in Arabic including the words "Allah Akhbar" so he is patently a 'terrorist'.
He stabs a nearby seated customer and continues to slash at him.
Near you is a very heavy solid brass floor candlestick - you glance at it then at the terrorist's back.
Do you:
a) Pick it up and smash it across his head until he falls to the ground?
b) Tell your bigger, stronger mate to smash the terrorist with it?
c) Do nothing and pray that the terrorist does not kill you?
d) Just try to flee?
Honest answers please - though I realise that it is impossible to really KNOW what any of us would really do in such a situation - I' feel sure that I would do a).
I would like to think I would do A,but in all honesty,I would probably just freeze or try and flee,or pray he wouldn't kill me,that urge to survive would be paramount, you wanted honesty Kirk.
Eddie.
13-05-2018, 07:22 AM
I would flee and call the police once I’m in a safe area away from the bistro.
Gusto Brunt
13-05-2018, 09:06 AM
Leave. ;) As soon as possible. :p
Cherie
13-05-2018, 09:10 AM
I would like to think (a) but probably (d)
AnnieK
13-05-2018, 09:19 AM
Oooh, that's tough Kirk. The fight or flight instinct would kick in so guess its which is stronger. I think flight would be in this situation as he was attacking a stranger but if it were a member of your party or family then fight.
Garfie
13-05-2018, 11:43 AM
Yes, I agree with Annie- the fight or flight instinct would kick in and we never really know how that will affect us until something really happens.
I'd like to think I'd be brave enough to try to stop the attacker but, if I'm totally honest, I think I'd flee and call the police. However, as I said, we don't really know and I might surprise myself, as if I've ever seen anyone hitting someone else in the street I have always shocked myself by telling them to stop.
Jamie89
13-05-2018, 12:49 PM
I don't know, if he had his back to me then maybe the instinctive response would be to take the opportunity to attack him, I don't think it's something you'd really think about and it's hard to say what your instincts would be though, I've never been in a situation like that.
RileyH
13-05-2018, 12:50 PM
Probably C
Well I'm a big tough guy, so I'd just give them a couple of slaps and pin them to the ground, until our boys in Blue arrived.
Underscore
13-05-2018, 12:59 PM
Probably get the candle stick, lob it at his head, hope it hits and if it doesn't then ****ing leg it
RileyH
13-05-2018, 01:00 PM
Well I'm a big tough guy, so I'd just give them a couple of slaps and pin them to the ground, until our boys in Blue arrived.
**** me
thesheriff443
13-05-2018, 01:06 PM
Since I know what's it's like to shoot another human being and smash a brick into someone else's head and fight some one with a knife, I would choose a in the blink of an eye.
Crimson Dynamo
13-05-2018, 01:19 PM
brain him with the candlestick whilst at the same time noting if the push-up rod was waxed up as they tend to be (you can usually free them with a hairdryer). The cork bit around the rod tends to perish as well
waterhog
13-05-2018, 01:35 PM
this is a flight or die situation and like to think I would do the first thing but when fear sinks in we all don't no how to react and the body does not always work as logical as of shock.
great topic for debate kirky my baby.
thesheriff443
13-05-2018, 01:46 PM
brain him with the candlestick whilst at the same time noting if the push-up rod was waxed up as they tend to be (you can usually free them with a hairdryer). The cork bit around the rod tends to perish as well
Surprised you did not give an insurance value to replace said candle stick.
RileyH
13-05-2018, 01:54 PM
**** off
**** you
Matthew.
13-05-2018, 01:58 PM
i think B), and failing that i would like to think I would go with A).
montblanc
13-05-2018, 04:16 PM
probably C :bawling:
kirklancaster
13-05-2018, 04:19 PM
Many want too.
:joker:
JerseyWins
13-05-2018, 04:24 PM
Probably D https://i.gifer.com/8aqN.gif
But maybe A if I had a clear shot at his head and felt confident enough that he'd at least fall to the ground after the hit. I'd also run as soon as making contact though.
user104658
13-05-2018, 05:34 PM
Depends on a few factors tbh. If I was with my wife / kids I'm afraid I'd just be getting them out of there, no questions asked.
If I was just with friends it depends again; if it was a friend they were attacking I would attack. If it was strangers BUT they had children with them, I would attack.
If it was adult strangers, got to be honest and say I'd probably go with self-preservation. Having a family to think about means putting your own safety first, as well as theirs.
Many want too.
Oh my alf.....if i floated that way...i just may.
I often wander the streets of london looking for the opportunity to lamp a terrorist...ahuh..i do.
Kazanne
13-05-2018, 06:22 PM
Many want too.
:joker::joker:
Gstar
13-05-2018, 06:24 PM
D but if it's not possible then B
Sorry I want to live to see my 25th birthday
Oh my alf.....if i floated that way...i just may.I understand your anguish.
rusticgal
13-05-2018, 10:25 PM
I think my natural instincts would want to hit him over the head with the candlestick....but I would probably miss so the next instinct would kick in and I would flee...
GoldHeart
13-05-2018, 11:33 PM
You are with friends at a corner table in a cosy, candle-lit little bistro when in walks an obviously deranged man wielding a knife but seemingly having no other weapons.
He stands with his back to you shouting loudly in Arabic including the words "Allah Akhbar" so he is patently a 'terrorist'.
He stabs a nearby seated customer and continues to slash at him.
Near you is a very heavy solid brass floor candlestick - you glance at it then at the terrorist's back.
Do you:
a) Pick it up and smash it across his head until he falls to the ground?
b) Tell your bigger, stronger mate to smash the terrorist with it?
c) Do nothing and pray that the terrorist does not kill you?
d) Just try to flee?
Honest answers please - though I realise that it is impossible to really KNOW what any of us would really do in such a situation - I' feel sure that I would do a).
Why does this deranged pyscho automatically have to be shouting in "Arabic" ? :bored: . Isn't that just stereotypical , I know it happens but it still sends out a negative image as some people ignorantly get the wrong impression of religion & different cultures .
Knife crime full stop is a problem , and this attack could be terrorist or just another random horrible attack .
I think we'd all like to think we'd be brave in a fantasy world, I think I'd only lash out if I was directly in the firing line but then again I don't know until I'm in that position.
The first human response is to panic and run :shrug: . People usually get survival guilt when they do that but it's a natural reaction .
thesheriff443
14-05-2018, 02:02 AM
Why does this deranged pyscho automatically have to be shouting in "Arabic" ? :bored: . Isn't that just stereotypical , I know it happens but it still sends out a negative image as some people ignorantly get the wrong impression of religion & different cultures .
Knife crime full stop is a problem , and this attack could be terrorist or just another random horrible attack .
I think we'd all like to think we'd be brave in a fantasy world, I think I'd only lash out if I was directly in the firing line but then again I don't know until I'm in that position.
The first human response is to panic and run :shrug: . People usually get survival guilt when they do that but it's a natural reaction .
In this senario he is an Arabic terrorist, if it makes you feel better he can be a cockney fruit and veg seller who has lost his nut?
kirklancaster
14-05-2018, 06:52 AM
In this senario he is an Arabic terrorist, if it makes you feel better he can be a cockney fruit and veg seller who has lost his nut?
:joker: That gives me an idea Sheriff:
OK - The guy with the knife is a Pearly King and he threatens everyone with it that they must watch his performance and applaud or else. Then he goes into a one hour long 'Knees Up' whilst singing a medley of; 'Boiled Beef 'n Carrots', 'Knees Up Muvver Brown', 'My Old Man' and 'Underneath The Arches'. :laugh:
GoldHeart
15-05-2018, 12:41 AM
In this senario he is an Arabic terrorist, if it makes you feel better he can be a cockney fruit and veg seller who has lost his nut?
Surely you can see the point i'm making :idc:
I don't care what the terrorist or the attacker looks like , but i'm just saying that's all . Plus who's to say he'd even say anything in another language he might just start stabbing people in a frenzy attack without any warning as random attacks are usually like that :nono: .
My husband is super mindful of things like this all the time (anyone walking in with a weapon, etc). He must sit where he can see the doors at all times... in the police academy, they're trained to reverse their vehicles into parking spots for similar reasons... comes with his job where that becomes second nature. He is usually armed...
I think I would do D, because my husband will run me through various scenarios like what I would do in XYZ situation, who I would call, where would I go if I couldn't go home for some reason... he does this all the time and ask me what I might do. I don't have very good answers for some of those or I just know I would be more of a danger to myself than help others... in this scenario, I'm low in upper body strength (working on that now), so probably me hitting them is not going to knock them out :joker:... but I can react very quickly to situations with a solid plan and am great at communicating and making orders, speaking up, and getting people's attention. I don't freeze up I've learned. I've been literally chased down by a crazy man that looked like Carrot Top with a red truck through a parking lot... I've been stalked and solicited in shops... so I tend to fight more than flight I think as I grew up in inner city... so kind of used to having to be hyper vigilant and be an asshole when needed and listen for my gut feeling...
So probably D, I would call 911 ASAP and warn bystanders... as well as call/locate friends & family who I know are working the area (who are also cops). And honestly, just pray for the best... I'd like to say I could be a hero, but a hero I wouldn't be in that scenario... now, if it were my husband, he'd just shoot him dead. He has been in situations where people could've stabbed him... and he's told me all the things that fly through his head in those situations... also, been on the court stand where an inmate brought in several shivs they didn't catch... thankfully caught the last ones before they brought him into court.
thesheriff443
15-05-2018, 06:29 AM
Surely you can see the point i'm making :idc:
I don't care what the terrorist or the attacker looks like , but i'm just saying that's all . Plus who's to say he'd even say anything in another language he might just start stabbing people in a frenzy attack without any warning as random attacks are usually like that :nono: .
The problem is, there is not a lot of terrorists to choose from!.
I can see where you are coming from but in the same way being Irish does not make you a member of the Ira.
thesheriff443
15-05-2018, 06:36 AM
One thing a saw a few months back that saw me seriously consider knocking a guy out or calling the police was.
A guy comes into McDonald's with a ruck sack sticking out from the back of that ruck sack was what was clearly designed to look like the handle of a Samaria sword, it took me a long time to see the bottom was actually an umbrella.
I then thought what moron to be walking around with that in these unpredictable times.
kirklancaster
15-05-2018, 07:15 AM
Surely you can see the point i'm making :idc:
I don't care what the terrorist or the attacker looks like , but i'm just saying that's all . Plus who's to say he'd even say anything in another language he might just start stabbing people in a frenzy attack without any warning as random attacks are usually like that :nono: .
Well, I'm sorry Goldheart, but I do NOT see the point you are making. I chose a hypothetical situation for this light-hearted 'quiz' and gave no particular thought to what type of terrorist would be in the scenario but SIMPLY used a Muslim Terrorist for NO other reason than that they ARE the most prolific killers currently blighting civilisation and therefore in the news more often and therefore are a logical choice as they are in our consciousness more than other terrorists.
It is a fact that 'off-the-top-of-my-head' I cannot even think of any other type of terrorist and it did NOT occur to me to indulge in any type of research to try to ascertain any other type of terrorist because I did not envisage that ANYONE would find anything to object to in a simple light-hearted quiz.
I have no time for 'Political Correctness' so I make NO apologies for depicting my terrorist in my fictional scenario as a Muslim Terrorist because not only do Islamic Terrorists exist, they are also THE most prolific ACTIVE terrorists on the planet.
Brillopad
15-05-2018, 06:56 PM
You are with friends at a corner table in a cosy, candle-lit little bistro when in walks an obviously deranged man wielding a knife but seemingly having no other weapons.
He stands with his back to you shouting loudly in Arabic including the words "Allah Akhbar" so he is patently a 'terrorist'.
He stabs a nearby seated customer and continues to slash at him.
Near you is a very heavy solid brass floor candlestick - you glance at it then at the terrorist's back.
Do you:
a) Pick it up and smash it across his head until he falls to the ground?
b) Tell your bigger, stronger mate to smash the terrorist with it?
c) Do nothing and pray that the terrorist does not kill you?
d) Just try to flee?
Honest answers please - though I realise that it is impossible to really KNOW what any of us would really do in such a situation - I' feel sure that I would do a).
I would like to think a) but I would imagine shock may set in and many would freeze including me probably.
If people could get past that and realise that there is strength in numbers and if most people, as a group, acted together to overpower the cowards instead of running - the scumbags would be far less likely to try it again if they knew people were going to fight back in large numbers.
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