BB's public service

[Red Moon]

BB's public service
By Ken Oxley, The Sunday Sun

Perhaps I'm just as thick as Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd and Jo O'Meara . . . the three former Big Brother housemates who gang- ed up on Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty.

Because I fail to see why their ignorant and offensive comments should not have been aired.

Surely the whole point of reality TV is that it is `real' and that we get to see how people are, warts and all.

So I can't help feeling Channel 4 bosses have been a little hard done to after Ofcom's stinging criticism of the last Celebrity Big Brother.

The watchdog has ruled that the channel made "serious editorial misjudgements" which contravened its broadcasting code.

As a result, it will be forced to air a summary of Ofcom's findings during the next series of Big Brother.

I've no doubt Channel 4 did contravene the code, but if that's the case then perhaps the code should be reviewed.

The treatment meted out to Shilpa was vile . . . and painful to watch. And let's not get bogged down in a debate about whether it was racism or bullying. It was both. Yet it is only because of those "serious editorial misjudgements" that I now know Jade and co are not Goody Two Shoes. Goody and her Two Shrews, more like it.

And I'm not the only one who regarded their behaviour as both vulgar and bigoted.

Apparently, so did the Carphone Warehouse, which pulled its £3m sponsorship of the programme.

Ditto The Perfume Shop, which removed Jade's fragrance from its shelves.

And millions of people who might have been tempted spend their hard-earned cash on it chose not to after Jade's name became mud.

The fact that the ill-informed views espoused by the tiresome trio were broadcast did not in any way validate them, as some have argued.

Instead, it earned all three women the ridicule they so richly deserve and generated a backlash against them that has been a joy to behold.

It also stimulated a debate which, I believe, has been valuable in helping people to understand precisely what constitutes racism.

Ofcom's ruling means Channel 4 must swallow a bitter pill and apologise for its mistake.

But I for one believe that while the controversial footage was clearly only used to jack up ratings, it also served a useful purpose.

And surely it would have been a much bigger mistake to have edited out all of those offensive remarks and to allow Jade's gang to emerge from the programme with their reputations intact.
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[nodisharmony]

Just flicking through:whistle:

BB's public service
By Ken Oxley, The Sunday Sun

Entitled to your opinion Ken:rolleyes:




Perhaps I'm just as thick as Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd and Jo O'Meara . . . the three former Big Brother housemates who gang- ed up on Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty.

I would love to know, how anyone can guarantee that all three of those housemates are thick:puzzled:


Because I fail to see why their ignorant and offensive comments should not have been aired.

The remarks should NOT have been aired, as it was obvious to many thousand people that there was words & comments which were construed by some as containing possible racial over-tones. Only mild stuff, but it wasn't a wise decision to display them other than a financial one at the time


Surely the whole point of reality TV is that it is `real' and that we get to see how people are, warts and all.

That is true, when an argument breaks out normally. For example, comments were said about american actor Dirk Benedict and some were rather offensive and brought his accent and the fact that he was an American and it is ridiculous how the Shilpa vs Jade/Jo & Danielle should be viewed any differently than Dirk's situation, but Endemol's editing team made their judgements and the rest is history


So I can't help feeling Channel 4 bosses have been a little hard done to after Ofcom's stinging criticism of the last Celebrity Big Brother.

Channel 4 trusted Endemol at the time and just went with the flow and now it has backfired. It is like newspapers that have to apologise from time to time and get sued too


The watchdog has ruled that the channel made "serious editorial misjudgements" which contravened its broadcasting code.

So the law is the law, so why question it??


As a result, it will be forced to air a summary of Ofcom's findings during the next series of Big Brother.

This is a compromise, which has been agreed on. But, if Channel 4 choose NOT to do this, there will be trouble:cloud:


I've no doubt Channel 4 did contravene the code, but if that's the case then perhaps the code should be reviewed.

Perhaps is a great word, but sadly, Ofcom wouldn't be interested, sorry:rolleyes:


The treatment meted out to Shilpa was vile . . . and painful to watch. And let's not get bogged down in a debate about whether it was racism or bullying. It was both. Yet it is only because of those "serious editorial misjudgements" that I now know Jade and co are not Goody Two Shoes. Goody and her Two Shrews, more like it.

Then, you switch the channel over and watch something else then. That's easy!!:rolleyes: Big Brother always has arguments and anyone saying differently is either stupid or just naive. The plain & simple truth to all of this, is, Jade, Jo & Danielle picked on the wrong housemate and it is that-clear-cut. If you speak to Jade Goody in a nice way, she will be nice in return. Pity the footage wasn't shown where Jade, Jo & Danielle were being sweet & nice.


And I'm not the only one who regarded their behaviour as both vulgar and bigoted.

obviously:rolleyes: The way it was edited was appauling


Apparently, so did the Carphone Warehouse, which pulled its £3m sponsorship of the programme.

Car Phone Warehouse made that decision, as they didn't want their products being associated with a show, who is happy to show & display this kind of offensive material. Virgin Media will do exactly the same thing in Big Brother 8, if Endemol don't do their job properly this time round. If you don't believe me, contact Virgin & ask them. That is FACT!!


Ditto The Perfume Shop, which removed Jade's fragrance from its shelves.

If the majority of the viewing public hate Jade Goody, it is natural that her products will be removed. That goes for any disgraced Celebrity


And millions of people who might have been tempted spend their hard-earned cash on it chose not to after Jade's name became mud.

As above.....p.s/ It's selling on Ebay & it is a lovely perfume too, I've smelt it:bigsmile:


The fact that the ill-informed views espoused by the tiresome trio were broadcast did not in any way validate them, as some have argued.

Still coming back to the fact that displaying offensive material of this nature is obviously wrong and now Ofcom are seeking apologies. Regardless of anything spoken


Instead, it earned all three women the ridicule they so richly deserve and generated a backlash against them that has been a joy to behold.

But why do they deserve this type of backlash which you so obviously enjoy?? They argued and said some offensive comments to another ordinary housemate. We have been there before and the same thing occurs in everyday life. The point which keeps getting skipped over, time & time again, is, the fact that it was Shilpa Shetty that was recieving this abuse and not Ken Russell. Oh, but Ken did get abuse, but it isn't mentioned. Why not???? If someone is enjoying this so much and want Jade, Jo & Danielle to suffer further, then dream about it instead.


It also stimulated a debate which, I believe, has been valuable in helping people to understand precisely what constitutes racism.

The viewers of Big Brother & CBB are looking for some great entertainment and some gripping drama too, plus plenty of humour mixed in. If Endemol were looking to prove a test or something, perhaps they should have told us viewers at the time & Channel 4 & Car Phone Warehouse + Ofcom. But they didn't:rolleyes: I Wonder Why:wink: It has to be a word beginning with (M) & ending in (Y).

Yes, you guessed it:- (MONEY):hello::hello:


Ofcom's ruling means Channel 4 must swallow a bitter pill and apologise for its mistake.

No choice really:whistle:


But I for one believe that while the controversial footage was clearly only used to jack up ratings, it also served a useful purpose.

Killing three "birds" with one stone, you say:rolleyes: Jade, Jo & Danielle being those birds, I presume:rolleyes:


And surely it would have been a much bigger mistake to have edited out all of those offensive remarks and to allow Jade's gang to emerge from the programme with their reputations intact

You think so, do you??? Many who are looking forward to Big Brother 8 and a great show, may feel differently. Also, it has caused more trouble than good and also, it is a very petty situation and even Shilpa Shetty has said that herself. So that speaks even more volumes in itself.:wink:





nodisharmony :angel:

[Red Moon]

It all comes back to one basic fact -

If the Gobby and her little dog bitches had kept their big mouths shut none of this would have happened

There wouldn't have been any footage to edit or show that would have got Big Brother into trouble.

[Bells]

Thanks for posting that - I have to say I agree with the article, and it makes a lot of sense.

[Ruth*Star]

Thank You for Posting that! and yeah it does make sense.

[J.C.]

It,s a tight call. On the one hand we want everyone to see and experience the full reality of the show, and in that sense, it is a public service - but on the other hand the real reality is that when we witness something like bullying we should step in and stop it rather than watch it. It's that judgment call that Endemol got wrong and shouldn't have. The policy should involve only stepping in when the activity suggests that it may lead to a crime. IMO they got it wrong by just one day,tho it was a tight call. I'm not saying that any crime was committed but it was heading in that direction fast..

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by J.C.
It,s a tight call. On the one hand we want everyone to see and experience the full reality of the show, and in that sense, it is a public service - but on the other hand the real reality is that when we witness something like bullying we should step in and stop it rather than watch it. It's that judgment call that Endemol got wrong and shouldn't have. The policy should involve only stepping in when the activity suggests that it may lead to a crime. IMO they got it wrong by just one day,tho it was a tight call. I'm not saying that any crime was committed but it was heading in that direction fast..


The reality of CBB & BB is a show with Arguments & Strong Disagreements, J.C. :thumbs:

When bullying occurs in these types of shows, it is televised after the watershed & allowed fully with no problem whatsoever. This is the way it just happens.

Endemol were not dealing with a problem with Bullying, as Bullying was NOT considered a problem and certainly never would have been, if the word, "Racism" hadn't been added to the word, "Bullying".

When this cocktail was mixed together, it was a deadly one.

Endemol didn't do what they should have done, "Whether a crime or not" Money was very attractive & looking at the forced apologies as late, "All three of them", certainly spells that fact out:wink:

The opportunity of extending it by just one-day, just happened & was a fruitful opportunity, very fruitful.





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