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Underscore
18-05-2018, 07:29 PM
Yes/No.

Wizard.
18-05-2018, 07:30 PM
Yes I live for them.

Underscore
18-05-2018, 07:31 PM
Yes I live for them.

This.

Crimson Dynamo
18-05-2018, 07:33 PM
awful

Matthew.
18-05-2018, 07:34 PM
yes i quite like the royal family. ive even got a prince phillip mask :laugh:

Wizard.
18-05-2018, 07:34 PM
This.

I die for them.

Shaun
18-05-2018, 07:36 PM
No. Not in a particularly passionate way, just in a "completely disinterested by them in every imaginable way" way. And also a little bit of an "I begrudge how much money they cost the taxpayer" way.

TomC
18-05-2018, 07:38 PM
No. They're honestly nothing more than celebrities in my eyes :worry:

The whole idea doesn't sit right with me to be honest, that one family can sit on so much what is really public money of old, and the palace for example is still funded by the public.

It contradicts the kind of meritocratic society we're meant to live in

Shaun
18-05-2018, 07:39 PM
I hadn't thought of them as the Kardashians for Toffs but I shall now, thank you TomC.

RileyH
18-05-2018, 07:47 PM
Are they the king & queen

Withano
18-05-2018, 07:48 PM
If there was a referendum on them, I wouldn't vote. I really dont care either way.

Barry.
18-05-2018, 07:48 PM
Are they the king & queen

Are who?

Lostie!
18-05-2018, 07:49 PM
No. Not in a particularly passionate way, just in a "completely disinterested by them in every imaginable way" way. And also a little bit of an "I begrudge how much money they cost the taxpayer" way.

All of this tbh

Glenn.
18-05-2018, 07:50 PM
I live for Harry

Brother Leon
18-05-2018, 07:50 PM
Other- I don’t give a **** about them. Harry is the only Royal I probably think is cool enough to care about abit.

Twosugars
18-05-2018, 07:54 PM
Yeeees, but I'd give public money only to the monarch, the rest should support themselves. Plus security for the monarch's immediate family should be paid by the state.

Tbf, if there's a ceremonial head of state like in the UK, monarchy is much better solution than periodic elections of some distiguished old coot.

Calderyon
18-05-2018, 07:56 PM
Are they the king & queen

The whole Royal Family.

bots
18-05-2018, 07:57 PM
i detest the old royal establishment that the queen was clinging on to for dear life up to the point where Diana died and she realised if she didn't wise up she would be out on her ass. I think royalty will be much more accessible in a generation or two, but not yet.

Calderyon
18-05-2018, 08:06 PM
Yes I live for them.

This.

I die for them.

This is worrying.

thesheriff443
18-05-2018, 08:08 PM
They are part of history, good or bad they are still part of the history of the world.

I feel sorry for them, their life's are not really their own, duty comes first.

Would I be disrespectful to them? No

Am I loyal to queen and country? Yes

Jamie89
18-05-2018, 08:15 PM
I'm completely indifferent to them

Wizard.
18-05-2018, 08:23 PM
This is worrying.

Why? God save the Queen!

GiRTh
18-05-2018, 08:24 PM
I'm completely indifferent to them2

Calderyon
18-05-2018, 08:30 PM
Why? God save the Queen!

They are not that important. Strangers really.

Family, close friends and yourself come first. I would save the living and dying for them. And God of course.

But I am not British so...

Jake.
18-05-2018, 08:32 PM
Nope. Don’t hate them but I certainly don’t love them and the amount being paid every year towards them is ludicrous.

smudgie
18-05-2018, 08:41 PM
They are a great asset to the country.
Just a bit fed up of all the hype of this wedding.
Probably watch some of it still:joker:

kirklancaster
18-05-2018, 08:51 PM
We ALL support them - through our taxes. :laugh:

Black Dagger
18-05-2018, 08:52 PM
Take them or leave them. This wedding talk has bored me ****less tho.

Maru
19-05-2018, 02:46 AM
We ALL support them - through our taxes. :laugh:

:clap1:

Maru
19-05-2018, 03:05 AM
I would support them... govt supports a lot of supposedly "useless" things actually... like historical buildings, DC tourist industry, national parks, museums, the Public Broadcasting Network... I'm sure there's a lot more horrible govt waste I can find in that that dumpster fire...

At least your family, you can ask them to do diplomatic/political work on your country's behalf. It also generates additional income for your country in the way of tourism and keeps your newspapers happy, creates jobs, and employs a lot of people actually... and it keeps people actively interested in your history and keeps your country relevant in affairs. Since these "useless" things often are help you to promote your country, bolster the moral of your countrymen.... are actually must haves in a first world country as a "resume" to your relevance of your culture and deep wealth of collective knowledge and history.

There are a lot of things that govt often supports that can be deemed a giant money pits... but their actual value isn't in the income they generate, but rather are job generators (so helps the economy), enables the staff to conduct research/keep statistics if it's a geological site for example and shows the country is not only interested in those fields, but has put money into them...

Another example, one that is not as obvious.. in Baltimore, my husband used to work at a historical building (one of the few that didn't burn down)... anyway, it had a bank in it. They didn't generate much in the way of loans or customers in having it in that location... peddlers lived on that block and so they were harassed walking in and out, so a lot of customers didn't like going there either... in fact, it was a money pit all the way around. What made it "profitable", was that by having a certain amount of locations in "low income" or "urban areas", they were able to qualify for a major kickback from the govt... so actually, keeping it open did make them a lot of money... but you could say it was a money pit as far as the govt was concerned. My husband used to take people upstairs, including kids on a field trip... he would show them the old vault (like the classic ones with the heavy round doors, etc)... so he worked on the side as a museum worker, but doubled as a security guard... was kind of ironic in retrospect ("... and here's the vault where all the money goes!"), but he took the initiative, the mgrs loved it and the kids and tourists learned more about the history of that time period.... it had a big dome at the top, marble pillars and a very high ceiling, gold-plated. The "conference" room was the employee lounge, and the door was kind of hidden... felt like a mob boss sitting at the end of this old expensive very heavy table eating my donuts while surrounded by period elaborate wood paneled walls and guilded age era-stuff all over the place... I'm sure they got some sort of kickback for keeping that property maintained... but it was way over the top for a simple bank.

user104658
19-05-2018, 09:17 AM
No and never. I have nothing against most of them individually, but I'm completely opposed to the very concept of "superior bloodlines", and there absolutely is still an impression in many circles that they are somehow "better folks" than anyone else. They may well now be little more than obscenely rich reality stars, that sounds pretty accurate, but they're still a symbol of elitism that's designed from the ground up to "keep average Joe in his place".

Its not worth the tradeoff.

Cal.
19-05-2018, 10:08 AM
Only Lady Di, Will, Kate and Harry!

waterhog
19-05-2018, 10:17 AM
its not a yes or no - the life runs by the queen and it will never bite the dust.

Mystic Mock
19-05-2018, 10:55 AM
I'm a bit weird tbh in the sense of I don't love or hate the Royal Family, they're a bit meh for me which I know that most people normally tend to fall into one of the other camps instead of my meh feeling towards them.

I do get annoyed at how the Media make a bigger deal out of a Wedding though.

Mystic Mock
19-05-2018, 10:58 AM
Other- I don’t give a **** about them. Harry is the only Royal I probably think is cool enough to care about abit.

If Harry was King I'd probably be more passionate about them.:joker:

Livia
20-05-2018, 02:10 PM
Do You Support The Monarchy threads are a bit like How Old Are You threads and What Do You Do For A Living threads inasmuch that they come round every year or so. And I always say the same thing... The Royals bring in more than they cost. They are patrons of loads of charities, they contribute to international trade with diplomatic visits and by receiving foreign guests here. They are also major employers and The Prince's Trust has such an impact on young people and gets so little credit that people underestimate the work it does... and I've not even mentioned Tourism yet.

Glenn.
20-05-2018, 02:41 PM
The Royal tourism makes about £500m a year and a quick google tells me that it costs each taxpayer 65p a year to 'pay for them'

Cherie
20-05-2018, 03:10 PM
Do You Support The Monarchy threads are a bit like How Old Are You threads and What Do You Do For A Living threads inasmuch that they come round every year or so. And I always say the same thing... The Royals bring in more than they cost. They are patrons of loads of charities, they contribute to international trade with diplomatic visits and by receiving foreign guests here. They are also major employers and The Prince's Trust has such an impact on young people and gets so little credit that people underestimate the work it does... and I've not even mentioned Tourism yet.

Countryfile is covering the Queens farms starting in Windsor tonight BBC1 7pm, people are quick to forget how much employment they create

Kazanne
20-05-2018, 03:20 PM
I don't mind them,I know we pay a lot out to them but they also generate a lot back in tourism etc, I am not envious of them in anyway,quite like the younger ones,but the media don't half go on about them,which can be annoying.

TomC
20-05-2018, 03:20 PM
The Royal tourism makes about £500m a year and a quick google tells me that it costs each taxpayer 65p a year to 'pay for them'

All that money goes to the government either way though so you can't really compare those figures.

reece(:
20-05-2018, 03:22 PM
Don't really care

Glenn.
20-05-2018, 03:33 PM
All that money goes to the government either way though so you can't really compare those figures.

I don’t see what people have a problem with then.

Firewire
20-05-2018, 03:36 PM
Love Meghan. But otherwise, no.

waterhog
20-05-2018, 07:38 PM
I live for the queen. George is my number 2.