Stephen Bear killed his puppy?

[Amy Jade]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/rb-composite-bear-dog.jpg?strip=all&quality=100&w=750&h=500&crop=1

Apparently he was seen on instagram taking the dog for walks outside his garden and letting it off it's lead in the street which is incredibly dangerous and stupid before it had been for injections. It had a leg amputated due to infection and he then took the dog out the next day :umm2:

The worst part is the absoloute moron paid the breeders to take the poor dog 3 weeks early! People like him shouldn't be allowed pets.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/704149/Stephen-Bear-dog-dead-puppy-girlfriend-instagram-ellie-o-donnell-charlotte-crosby/amp

[Nicky91]

:oh: this makes me so sad and pissed

[Jack_]

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[Tom4784]

I'd blame the breeders more for letting him have it early tbh. They should have put their foot down. I think unless he intentionally set out to kill the puppy then it's quite cruel to say he killed it. He's a twat but in this case he's a twat that simply didn't know what he was doing.

[Amy Jade]

He must have ignored vet advice though? I blame the breeder too of course but not knowing 'what he was doing' isn't an excuse for such idiocy. Why would you let your puppy who had an infection and had an amputation the day before out for a walk?

The man is an absoloute moron.

[LukeB]

Both Stephen and the breeder are equally to blame for this dogs death, the breeder for letting him take the dog home and Stephen for ignoring advice and taking the dog out the next day. Stephen just proved he shouldn’t be allowed to have pets because he doesn’t have any clue about looking after them.

[Twosugars]

:facepalm: lost for words

[Brillopad]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/rb-composite-bear-dog.jpg?strip=all&quality=100&w=750&h=500&crop=1

Apparently he was seen on instagram taking the dog for walks outside his garden and letting it off it's lead in the street which is incredibly dangerous and stupid before it had been for injections. It had a leg amputated due to infection and he then took the dog out the next day :umm2:

The worst part is the absoloute moron paid the breeders to take the poor dog 3 weeks early! People like him shouldn't be allowed pets.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/704149/Stephen-Bear-dog-dead-puppy-girlfriend-instagram-ellie-o-donnell-charlotte-crosby/amp

Well he always was a moron - but the bigger the moron the more some like them.

It is all about him - he wanted a puppy for whatever reason and cared little for doing the best for the puppy. I wouldn’t give a damn if something happened to him as he is a pretty worthless human being in my eyes.

[Amy Jade]

Both Stephen and the breeder are equally to blame for this dogs death, the breeder for letting him take the dog home and Stephen for ignoring advice and taking the dog out the next day. Stephen just proved he shouldn’t be allowed to have pets because he doesn’t have any clue about looking after them.

The breeder should be investigated in my opiniin but not sure how that works.

If you get a dog though you should immediately take it to the vet and follow their instructions. No way would any vet say a 5 week old puppy is fine to be taken for walks. He clearly didn't even investigate how to look after the poor dog correctly and his sheer stupidity has ended up in the dogs death.

[Twosugars]

Well he always was a moron - but the bigger the moron the more some like them.

It is all about him - he wanted a puppy for whatever reason and cared little for doing the best for the puppy. I wouldn’t give a damn if something happened to him as he is a pretty worthless human being in my eyes.

:clap1:

[Tom4784]

He must have ignored vet advice though? I blame the breeder too of course but not knowing 'what he was doing' isn't an excuse for such idiocy. Why would you let your puppy who had an infection and had an amputation the day before out for a walk?

The man is an absoloute moron.

We don't know what advice he received though, he's a twat and I endorse any opportunity to brand him as such but being dumb isn't the same as actively choosing to hurt an animal.

Outrage culture tbh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

breeder my arse it will be some scumbag doing this purely for greed

this twat has always been an abject moron

how anyone liked him on BB is a pure mystery

[Crimson Dynamo]

lets hope he does not breed

[Morgan.]

This twat doesn't deserve anymore attention.

[y.winter]

Breeding should be illegalized. Urging animals to breed for money is disgusting, sex slavery for money.
Adopt a dog, don't buy one.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Breeding should be illegalized. Urging animals to breed for money is disgusting, sex slavery for money.
Adopt a dog, don't buy one.


agreed.

[Wizard.]

What I find equally worse than this story is that:

1) His twitter header is of his dog (for sympathy)
2) He retweeted an article from MTV UK about the fact he got a tattoo 'in memory of his dog'
3) He tweets this, notice the emoji at the end, LIKE you have been good to anyone but yourself scumbag!

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He will do anything for fame it seems, even killing an innocent animal and then loving the attention he is getting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

he is one or the worst people i have ever witnessed on BB

absolute thick pig

[Niamh.]

He should never be allowed own an animal again, poor little puppy :(

[user104658]

He didn't "kill" it as that makes it sound like he deliberately harmed it somehow. However, there is a good chance that the puppy died because of negligence and incompetence.

Whoever sold it to him so young shares part of the blame too, it should still have been with it's mother, being taken away from doggy breast milk too early will have been a huge contributing factor in the poor thing's immune system being too weak to fight off infection.

[Niamh.]

He didn't "kill" it as that makes it sound like he deliberately harmed it somehow. However, there is a good chance that the puppy died because of negligence and incompetence.

Whoever sold it to him so young shares part of the blame too, it should still have been with it's mother, being taken away from doggy breast milk too early will have been a huge contributing factor in the poor thing's immune system being too weak to fight off infection.

Well he didn't physically kill the dog but he ignored vets advice so kind of did in a way

[Denver]

Breeding should be illegalized. Urging animals to breed for money is disgusting, sex slavery for money.
Adopt a dog, don't buy one.

But if you ban breeding there will be no dogs to adopt

[Niamh.]

But if you ban breeding there will be no dogs to adopt

I presume they meant the puppy farming type breeders and people who breed as a business rather than dogs just naturally having puppies?

[LaLaLand]

Scum.

[Babayaro.]

Such a stupid ****ing idiot.

[Livia]

I wonder if the RSPCA are investigating this. If not... why not? He should be banned from keeping animals and so should the "breeder".

[reece(:]

Him and the breeder are both scum, him for offering a bribe and the other for taking it irregardless of the pup's potential health issues.

Vile at him still taking it out after an amputation, when the pup should be resting

[Amy Jade]

Breeding should be illegalized. Urging animals to breed for money is disgusting, sex slavery for money.
Adopt a dog, don't buy one.

I agree.

My dog is a pedigree but she is the offspring of two dogs who live together and breed naturally. The owner let her have two litters and neutered her. She also ended up keeping half the puppies :laugh:

[Amy Jade]

We don't know what advice he received though, he's a twat and I endorse any opportunity to brand him as such but being dumb isn't the same as actively choosing to hurt an animal.

Outrage culture tbh.
I am sure the article in the OP mentions his vet suggested allowing the dog in his back garden was ok but Bear posted videos of him walking the dog in wooded areas and long grass.

Anyone with even an ounce of sense would keep an animal who had had it's leg amputated inside or in cage rest. Bear posted a video of him and a friend playing with the puppy outside.

I think it is a bit like a negligent driver in a way. Sure he never set out to kill it but his negligible behaviour definitely resulted in this dogs painful death.

[kirklancaster]

Him and the breeder are both scum, him for offering a bribe and the other for taking it irregardless of the pup's potential health issues.

Vile at him still taking it out after an amputation, when the pup should be resting

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Glenn.]

I am sure the article in the OP mentions his vet suggested allowing the dog in his back garden was ok but Bear posted videos of him walking the dog in wooded areas and long grass.

Anyone with even an ounce of sense would keep an animal who had had it's leg amputated inside or in cage rest. Bear posted a video of him and a friend playing with the puppy outside.

I think it is a bit like a negligent driver in a way. Sure he never set out to kill it but his negligible behaviour definitely resulted in this dogs painful death.

This.

[Denver]

Y'all love him when he does CBB again

[Denver]

Perched for Vanessa to come and say he can kill his dog if he wants because he is so sexy

[Livia]

It should be much tougher to make money from breeding animals. If you're committing to having a dog, your dog should be neutered. Dogs should only be available from registered breeders and be chipped and inoculated before they're taken by the new owners. Those breeding illegally should face heavy fines and even prison time.

And I'm sure people are sick of hearing this from me because I say it every time there's a thread about animal cruelty... animal wardens in the USA are trained to look for evidence of child abuse too, because one follows the other in a lot of cases. It's something we really need to look at here.

[Livia]

Perched for Vanessa to come and say he can kill his dog if he wants because he is so sexy

LOL...

[Niamh.]

Perched for Vanessa to come and say he can kill his dog if he wants because he is so sexy

:hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Perched for Vanessa to come and say he can kill his dog if he wants because he is so sexy

:joker:

[bots]

I do hope the RSPCA pay him a visit.

[arista]

"The worst part is the absoloute moron paid the breeders to take the poor dog 3 weeks early! People like him shouldn't be allowed pets."

Well Said Amy

[user104658]

Well he didn't physically kill the dog but he ignored vets advice so kind of did in a way

I guess the issue there is actually proving that though; even though him ignoring the advice PROBABLY contributed to the poor dog dying, there's no way to know for sure whether it would have died from complications from the surgery either way.

Not that I'm defending him though; I don't think he WANTED the dog to be harmed or die, but I also don't think he particularly cares that it did, and he obviously didn't get a dog for the right reasons in the first place... so he should be banned for at least a few years from having another.

I guess this is why they used to have dog licenses?

[Barry.]

Cruel person.

[RileyH]

Just when I thought I couldn't hate him any more :umm2:

[Nicky91]

Just when I thought I couldn't hate him any more :umm2:

The Bear setting the bar even lower :fan:



how can you be cruel to these cute pets :bawling:

[Cherie]

No decent breeder would take an pup away from its Mum before it’s at least 8 weeks old, he’s obviously not got a clue about owning a pet dog, just wanted it and probably found it a bit too much trouble

[Jordan.]

Really just careless, agree with the comment saying he likely only got the dog to use as a prop on social media.

[Epic.]

Satan is real and he takes the form of a pathetic detestable manchild who has no care for innocent puppies :(

[Epic.]

Seriously though this is ****ing disgusting, idiotic and evil

[kirklancaster]

Y'all love him when he does CBB again

I could not stand the muppet on CBB so this is but another nail in the moron's coffin. It seems that he treats his pets the same way as he treats his women - use and dispose of when bored without any concern or care for them.

[kirklancaster]

It should be much tougher to make money from breeding animals. If you're committing to having a dog, your dog should be neutered. Dogs should only be available from registered breeders and be chipped and inoculated before they're taken by the new owners. Those breeding illegally should face heavy fines and even prison time.

And I'm sure people are sick of hearing this from me because I say it every time there's a thread about animal cruelty... animal wardens in the USA are trained to look for evidence of child abuse too, because one follows the other in a lot of cases. It's something we really need to look at here.

I could not agree more.

[Cherie]

Perched for Vanessa to come and say he can kill his dog if he wants because he is so sexy

:laugh:

[Epic.]

Perched for Vanessa to come and say he can kill his dog if he wants because he is so sexy

He looks ****ing hideous too, like a giant rat

[Mystic Mock]

People like Bear just want attention rather than thinking about anyone else, or in this case his pet.

[Jason.]

If only the title were just the first three words :(

[MB.]

Perched for Vanessa to come and say he can kill his dog if he wants because he is so sexy

"I can't believe Bear killed his puppy yet still hasn't murdered my pussy :("

[MB.]

(I'm really sorry)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lol

[RileyH]

"I can't believe Bear killed his puppy yet still hasn't murdered my pussy :("

Omg :joker::joker::joker:

[kirklancaster]

If only the title were just the first three words :(

:laugh2: BRILLIANT and I echo your sentiment.

[Cal.]

I hope he dies.

[Withano]

Well he always was a moron - but the bigger the moron the more some like them.

It is all about him - he wanted a puppy for whatever reason and cared little for doing the best for the puppy. I wouldn’t give a damn if something happened to him as he is a pretty worthless human being in my eyes.

agree with everything, and unfortunately, especially the bit in bold.

[Beso]

Maybe he was just following the vets advice...

How long will my dog take to recover from surgery?(back to top)
It is extraordinary how quickly most animals become mobile after amputation of a leg. Patients that have no other mobility issues, for example osteoarthritis, should be able to go for a lead walk within 24 hours of the operation. Young dogs, dogs of slim build and dogs with a weeks-long history of lameness affecting the amputated limb can be expected to start walking on three legs after only 12 hours.

[Brillopad]

Maybe he was just following the vets advice...

How long will my dog take to recover from surgery?(back to top)
It is extraordinary how quickly most animals become mobile after amputation of a leg. Patients that have no other mobility issues, for example osteoarthritis, should be able to go for a lead walk within 24 hours of the operation. Young dogs, dogs of slim build and dogs with a weeks-long history of lameness affecting the amputated limb can be expected to start walking on three legs after only 12 hours.

It was about the risk of infection though as he had taken the puppy from his mother too soon and was more at risk of infection - and then ignored the vets advice. The poor thing died of infection due an uncaring irresponsible owner.

[Beso]

It was about the risk of infection though as he had taken the puppy from his mother too soon and was more at risk of infection - and then ignored the vets advice. The poor thing died of infection due an uncaring irresponsible owner.

I wouldnt say uncaring.

[Beso]

If you look at the photos in the news story originally posted the dog looks a lot lot older than 4-6 weeks...looks more like 2-3 months to me...the one in the garden.

[Withano]

If you look at the photos in the news story originally posted the dog looks a lot lot older than 4-6 weeks...looks more like 2-3 months to me...the one in the garden.

Would it change anything if the dog looked physically older than it actually was?

[Beso]

Would it change anything if the dog looked physically older than it actually was?


Yeah it does.


He got the dog early..ok.

The dog became unwell and was put on a drip to feed it....the drip was put in the dogs paw but that became infected resulting in an amputation......

Young dogs recover quick and can be walked 24 hours after the op...bear just exercised it in his garden instead...

He has been seen in wooded areas and parks with the dog so im assuming its not the size if his hand.

Therefore perhaps it could be said that the infection had nothing to do with him getting the dog early as it was picked up months later...just before the 12 week booster jag.

[Cherie]

Yeah it does.


He got the dog early..ok.

The dog became unwell and was put on a drip to feed it....the drip was put in the dogs paw but that became infected resulting in an amputation......

Young dogs recover quick and can be walked 24 hours after the op...bear just exercised it in his garden instead...

He has been seen in wooded areas and parks with the dog so im assuming its not the size if his hand.

Therefore perhaps it could be said that the infection had nothing to do with him getting the dog early as it was picked up months later...just before the 12 week booster jag.


But you are not meant to take a dog out into public areas until their jabs are fully complete, it’s a simple enough condition to folloe

[Amy Jade]

Maybe he was just following the vets advice...

How long will my dog take to recover from surgery?(back to top)
It is extraordinary how quickly most animals become mobile after amputation of a leg. Patients that have no other mobility issues, for example osteoarthritis, should be able to go for a lead walk within 24 hours of the operation. Young dogs, dogs of slim build and dogs with a weeks-long history of lameness affecting the amputated limb can be expected to start walking on three legs after only 12 hours.

If you would allow a puppy who had just had a leg amputated due to infection outside to walk around less than 24 hours after the operation then you're a poor excuse for a dog owner. I pray you never get a pet and if you already have one I pray for that poor animal too.

[Beso]

But you are not meant to take a dog out into public areas until their jabs are fully complete, it’s a simple enough condition to folloe

Ive just read a bit more on it...

He didnt take it walks, he was just letting it out in the garden from when he got it, as advised by the vet.

Thats when the dog became unwell...so much so it couldnt eat and needed to be drip fed..

it must have got better because the infection on the leg began when the wound from the drip became infected after it was removed..the vets bandage was to tight and the dog lost circulation in the leg which resulted in the amputation....sorry but sounds to me like a vets **** up.

[Beso]

If you would allow a puppy who had just had a leg amputated due to infection outside to walk around less than 24 hours after the operation then you're a poor excuse for a dog owner. I pray you never get a pet and if you already have one I pray for that poor animal too.

Check your facts amy, and i suggest you dont start with the daily.star or 2 random instagramers...

[Twosugars]

Regardless, somebody should (and I hope, has) report him to RSPCA. Let them investigate and prosecute if they find anybody (breeder, owner or vet) guilty.

[Matthew.]

the man is a disgrace to humanity

[Amy Jade]

Check your facts amy, and i suggest you dont start with the daily.star or 2 random instagramers...

There are multiple sources if you google it. You fact check if you so desire but the facts are pretty damning!

[Amy Jade]

https://static.ok.co.uk/media/images/625x625_ct/1147145_bear_2_cc44bde78b65a992ebfe11d1ffd56170.jp g

Poor innocent little thing </3

[Maru]

Amy, I'm like you. My blood boils when I hear about animal abuse. I'm the same way about the elderly as well, as they often can't speak up for themselves. It's a major problem where I am with our stray population and year-round mating season. Strays get picked up and used as bait. Some people should just not own animals, but things will not change until people hold breeders accountable and people start speaking up. Much less getting charges filed...

It's a little strange he died so suddenly, but if he had an infection that required amputation, he could've gone septic with a poor immune system given he's just a pup... possibly the shot was a long-term antibiotic that they sometimes send the animals home with and it may not have been enough. So I'm not sure it is Bear's fault, just because we don't know the full story really, but probably he was not fit to "nurse" the animal. The puppy should've remained overnight with the vet if he was in that poor of shape. Between the pup's age and the state of it's health (plus losing a limb), it likely had a very poor immune system to begin with and was simply overtaxed. We had a Jack Russell that was full grown, but it had gotten in a fight and had numerous bites all over. He passed overnight in his crate just because of the shear trauma on it's b ody... but he wasn't really much for eating or playing in those hours, so it's not like it was so sudden. He wasn't bleeding or anything and he was in good care (my uncle was studying to be a vet then), but because his body simply gave out. That does happen when there is that much trauma in a short period of time.

As for breeders... they only care about profit 9 times out of 10, so probably they didn't take adequate precuations. Though sometimes getting them away from the breeder is far better for their health than not, with their inability to sometimes isolate the animal and also the risk of diseases being spread through contact with shared living spaces.

There's a rescue that I follow that takes regular trips out-of-state to pull the pups that have been used for breeding out of that life... the medical issues and state of many of them is just appalling. The regulations here are a joke... many of them sit in their own excrement in cages not large enough for them to even stand... and they spend their entire lives like this. It's a wonderful rescue... so if the dog was amputated, it could've also been because of the conditions of the breeding facility... which often in itself creates a lot of health issues. Diseases and infections are easy to spread also in those environments...

https://www.facebook.com/LoneStarRescue

[LaLaLand]

This is exactly why they should make it mandatory people apply for licenses to own ANY ANIMAL.

I doubt it'll ever happen with the rate that people breed with their pets these days, but it'd definitely minimise these kind of things.

This is just awful.

[montblanc]

scum

[GoldHeart]

Well he didn't physically kill the dog but he ignored vets advice so kind of did in a way

Yeah basically it's still his fault that the poor puppy died , but i know what TS means as he didn't purposely murder the animal .

He sounds like a total idiot and clearly he's not fit to look after pets :nono: , why do people like him keep hogging the media along with the other stupid talentless tv reality "stars" :bored:

[Brillopad]

https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/26/stephen-bear-courts-controversy-bringing-home-two-new-puppies-following-accusations-killed-last-dog-7580686/

The moron has bought two new puppies.

[Nicky91]

https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/26/stephen-bear-courts-controversy-bringing-home-two-new-puppies-following-accusations-killed-last-dog-7580686/

The moron has bought two new puppies.

take away those puppies from that creep :fist: :fist:

[JerseyWins]

Ugh SUCH a cute puppy RIP </3 and condolences to Bear & anyone else close to the puppy

[Nicky91]

Ugh SUCH a cute puppy RIP </3 and condolences to Bear & anyone else close to the puppy

why condolences to that murderer :oh:

[JerseyWins]

why condolences to that murderer :oh:
Because he lost his puppy that he seemed so happy about and he didn't kill it Nicky! Not intentionally and not even certainly accidentally although he should've been more careful with the puppy either way.

But besides in no other circumstances would you see an owner/loved one get blamed for a pet/relative's death (in a clear non-murder situation) without even any concrete proof to back this up... at least judging by what's in this thread which I just read up on / read nothing else other than this but I'm sure there would be more in here if there was obviously.

[Nicky91]

Because he lost his puppy that he seemed so happy about and he didn't kill it Nicky! Not intentionally and not even certainly accidentally although he should've been more careful with the puppy either way.

But besides in no other circumstances would you see an owner/loved one get blamed for a pet/relative's death (in a clear non-murder situation) without even any concrete proof to back this up... at least judging by what's in this thread which I just read up on / read nothing else other than this but I'm sure there would be more in here if there was obviously.

he shouldn't own pets anyway, we all know how immature and irresponsible he can be ;)

[Jake.]

Why the **** would anybody sell him more pets :umm2:

He’s scum

[JerseyWins]

Tbf Bear should make sure he's responsible enough to take care of a pet before getting one but we don't even know for sure that it was his fault.

Because he lost his puppy that he seemed so happy about and he didn't kill it Nicky! Not intentionally and not even certainly accidentally although he should've been more careful with the puppy either way.

But besides in no other circumstances would you see an owner/loved one get blamed for a pet/relative's death (in a clear non-murder situation) without even any concrete proof to back this up... at least judging by what's in this thread which I just read up on / read nothing else other than this but I'm sure there would be more in here if there was obviously.
Also I shouldn't say no other circumstances because sure there are times a parent getting blamed for bad & irresponsible parenting is fair in some cases...

But this is like a loving parent taking their kid somewhere at too young of an age out of excitement/joy for the kid (maybe not knowing how dangerous it could be), the kid gets sick and dies, a tragic loss, and the parent gets terribly/harshly blamed rather than sympathy. :conf:

This puppy seems like it wasn't healthy enough to begin with and too soon to be sold to someone who probably didn't know what he was doing tbf. If someone just NEEDS to be blamed it should be the person that sold it.

[RileyH]

Imagine defending Bear after he killed an innocent lil pup

[Jake.]

Anyone with a brain cell knows that you shouldn’t be taking puppies outside without their injections first. The fact that he was so desperate to take the pup for its mother early only to parade it around on Instagram for views and likes just shows what kind of person he is. The guy is selfish, and a defenceless animal has paid the price. He honestly makes me feel sick.

[JerseyWins]

Imagine defending Bear after he killed an innocent lil pup
He didn't kill it though.


Anyway originally I just wanted to give condolences to the puppy & anyone close to the puppy. I hope Bear has learned from his mistakes that may have caused/contributed in the first puppy's early death. </3 What kind of puppy are these 3 he's had anyway? Literally the CUTEST :love:

[Livia]

While he didn't kill the puppy per se, the puppy died as a direct result of his negligence. If he really does have two new puppies, I assume the RSPCA will have been contacted by multiple people. He should at least be banned from keeping animals.

[Nicky91]

Bear honestly is the lowest of the low type of scum


easily worst CBB hm ever :yuk:

[Kizzy]

I'd blame the breeders more for letting him have it early tbh. They should have put their foot down. I think unless he intentionally set out to kill the puppy then it's quite cruel to say he killed it. He's a twat but in this case he's a twat that simply didn't know what he was doing.

If you have responsibility for a living thing that cant fend for itself and through your neglect it dies...you killed it, albeit indirectly you are at fault imo.

[JerseyWins]

There's literally multiple sources of proof right in front of you so as Amy-Jade said that prove that the blame is at the very least partly his fault. Why the **** do his fans continue justifying his moronic, childish, selfish, pathetic, deplorably shitty behaviour?

I hope when he inevitably ends up being a vile dumbass again that the puppies eat him alive cause that's all this waste of oxygen deserves. Trash!
It's not justifying his actions where did I justify any of what Bear did with the puppy? It's just not crucifying him for an accident that may/may not have actually been a direct factor in the death... and just feeling sorry for the puppy & owner rather than looking for blame.

But you or no one else knows for sure that this puppy wouldn't have had health issues regardless of Bear running around with his puppy in the garden. It's basically surely to do with the puppy being taken too soon though - but that is more to blame on the seller iwbh regardless of how much Bear may have wanted it right away. He didn't do anything scummy, and 100% not purposely, but he was negligent in playing with his new puppy too soon which is a definite possible cause or contributing factor of this puppy's death... but all I can really say is he should be a lot more careful and responsible in the future with his new ones and RIP to his first pup. </3

[Brillopad]

It's not justifying his actions where did I justify any of what Bear did with the puppy? It's just not crucifying him for an accident that may/may not have actually been a direct factor in the death... and just feeling sorry for the puppy & owner rather than looking for blame.

But you or no one else knows for sure that this puppy wouldn't have had health issues regardless of Bear running around with his puppy in the garden. It's basically surely to do with the puppy being taken too soon though - but that is more to blame on the seller iwbh regardless of how much Bear may have wanted it right away. He didn't do anything scummy, and 100% not purposely, but he was negligent in playing with his new puppy too soon which is a definite possible cause or contributing factor of this puppy's death... but all I can really say is he should be a lot more careful and responsible in the future with his new ones and RIP to his first pup. </3

NO it isn’t because he bribed the seller to sell the puppy to him early which demonstrates a scant regard for the puppies welfare and, like a selfish child, he was far more preoccupied with having what he wants NOW.

[Denver]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/6645383/stephen-bear-rspca-neighbour-puppies/

He has been reported to the RSPCA

[Denver]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/36261023_10209959139774280_4262645163131666432_n-1-e1530176804678.jpg?w=960

[Epic.]

So let me get this straight. This scumbag who has not one but TWO defenseless dogs, has decided to leave them outdoors in the MORNING during SUMMER where the weather is scorching hot in Britain when the dogs are liable to die under intense heat? Of course the poor dogs would be howling</3. He really is a brainless irresponsible "ignorant pig" indeed! For the love of God, someone please rescue these poor animals from this monster and leave him upset and fragile at the disasters to pets he's done. Vile.

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I've never hated someone in the 21st century as much as this hideous abomination.

[AnnieK]

So let me get this straight. This scumbag who has not one but TWO defenseless dogs, has decided to leave them outdoors in the MORNING during SUMMER where the weather is scorching hot in Britain when the dogs are liable to die under intense heat? Of course the poor dogs would be howling</3. He really is a brainless irresponsible "ignorant pig" indeed! For the love of God, someone please rescue these poor animals from this monster and leave him upset and fragile at the disasters to pets he's done. Vile.

Doesn't say they were outside....hopefully they were in the house. Shouldn't have been left at all but if they were left outside then he should be made to give them up as that really is cruel

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Doesn't say they were outside....hopefully they were in the house. Shouldn't have been left at all but if they were left outside then he should be made to give them up as that really is cruel

They WERE left outside because the letter says they were "on their own". If they were inside the house they would be in the same place as him and not on their own. And based on how justifiably angry the letter is, it's obvious the poor pups were outside and why else would he be reported to the RSPCA unless it was as asinine as this?

[AnnieK]

They WERE left outside because the letter says they were "on their own". If they were inside the house they would be in the same place as him and not on their own. And based on how justifiably angry the letter is, it's obvious the poor pups were outside and why else would he be reported to the RSPCA unless it was as asinine as this?

Wow, that's quite an aggressive response.

I wouldn't have said it was obvious. If he had stayed out all night they would've have been on their own in the house. Dogs do bark inside houses too. Surely if he had been in, the neighbour would also have banged on the door to get him to let them in - I know I would've.

If they were outside, I hope the writer got them water and ensured there was shade.

[Kazanne]

So let me get this straight. This scumbag who has not one but TWO defenseless dogs, has decided to leave them outdoors in the MORNING during SUMMER where the weather is scorching hot in Britain when the dogs are liable to die under intense heat? Of course the poor dogs would be howling</3. He really is a brainless irresponsible "ignorant pig" indeed! For the love of God, someone please rescue these poor animals from this monster and leave him upset and fragile at the disasters to pets he's done. Vile.

Where does it say he left them outside in the heat,if it was night,it wouldn't be so hot,plus don't think they were outside either.I know people don't like him ,I'm not keen myself,but none of us know the real story,I am a dog lover and I blame more than him for the death of the first dog ,the seller needs to take some blame for selling it too early, I presume it was Bear himself who took it to the vet ? in the first place ,not the actions of someone who purposely would neglect a pet, he should have followed vets instructions,so although he was at best naïve ,I don't think he would have purposely caused it pain,as for the other two,dogs shouldn't be left alone for long periods of time, but they do look quite healthy and for all we know it could just be some disgruntled neighbour . I don't like him but think this 'Sun' story has been fabricated as always.

[Amy Jade]

No true animal lover would support this man.

[Kazanne]

No ones supporting him,just stating some exaggerations in that article in the rag mag papers reporting !!! I don't like the bloke but that doesn't mean I have to believe everything I read about him . I am sure the rag mag will update us on his court case,if there is one.Since when has the scummy Sun been a bastion of truth.No self respecting person would give it the time of day.

[LukeB]

No true animal lover would support this man.

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Something always happens when he has a pet so that is saying something.

[LukeB]

Hopefully he is banned from having pets for life, he obviously can’t look after them

[Beso]

There's literally multiple sources of proof right in front of you so as Amy-Jade said that prove that the blame is at the very least partly his fault. Why the **** do his fans continue justifying his moronic, childish, selfish, pathetic, deplorably shitty behaviour?

I hope when he inevitably ends up being a vile dumbass again that the puppies eat him alive cause that's all this waste of oxygen deserves. Trash!

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[Niamh.]

You couldn't write it could you Parmy ? I am certainly no fan of his but equally I am no fan of the 'Sun'

:suspect: I'm pretty sure I've heard you give pretty strong opinions on people who've treated animals badly tbf Kaz

[Kazanne]

:suspect: I'm pretty sure I've heard you give pretty strong opinions on people who've treated animals badly tbf Kaz

I have as I am a dog lover,but from reading it it looks like the breeder sold it too early,Bear obviously took it to a vet,the dog got an infection from some drip it had and Bear didn't follow the instructions to the letter on how to care for it post op. he's a knob and a bit thick but I don't think he intentionally thought 'Oh I will kill this pup' I have never liked the bloke as previous BB posts will prove,but as I have said,the 'Sun' is a trash mag,so I take what it says with a pinch of salt,as you know I hate animal abuse ,and because I don't think he MEANT to be cruel does not mean I am a fan or like him.

[Niamh.]

I have as I am a dog lover,but from reading it it looks like the breeder sold it too early,Bear obviously took it to a vet,the dog got an infection from some drip it had and Bear didn't follow the instructions to the letter on how to care for it post op. he's a knob and a bit thick but I don't think he intentionally thought 'Oh I will kill this pup' I have never liked the bloke as previous BB posts will prove,but as I have said,the 'Sun' is a trash mag,so I take what it says with a pinch of salt,as you know I hate animal abuse ,and because I don't think he MEANT to be cruel does not mean I am a fan or like him.

That doesn't really explain why you agree with parmnions post though because you've done the same in other threads regarding animal cruelty

[Kazanne]

That doesn't really explain why you agree with parmnions post though because you've done the same in other threads regarding animal cruelty

So I am not allowed to agree with parmy now ? right I get it .I am sure some people will 'get' what I mean.

[Niamh.]

So I am not allowed to agree with parmy now ? right I get it .I am sure some people will 'get' what I mean.

Well that was some leap there :laugh: Nice subject change though

[Kazanne]

Well that was some leap there :laugh: Nice subject change though

Why the cross examination ? I have said why I think the source is dodgy and that he was a knob, Intentionally cruel people should be wiped out from the face of the earth.,I am not convinced this was intentional,so does that answer your question.I'm not sure why you don't understand that.

[Beso]

You couldn't write it could you Parmy ? I am certainly no fan of his but equally I am no fan of the 'Sun'

Me either, to bloody hot imo.

[Kazanne]

Me either, to bloody hot imo.

:laugh::laugh: You're sharp today,I hate it too .:wavey:

[Niamh.]

Why the cross examination ? I have said why I think the source is dodgy and that he was a knob, Intentionally cruel people should be wiped out from the face of the earth.,I am not convinced this was intentional,so does that answer your question.I'm not sure why you don't understand that.

Because the post you agreed with was saying that wishing harm on a human doesn't make that poster sound any better which is something I've seen you do before, it's irrelevant whether your opinion on this story is different, you have wished harm on a human before is all I was saying..........

[Beso]

:laugh::laugh: You're sharp today,I hate it too .:wavey:

See ya when bb comes on kaz..take care.:wavey:

[Kazanne]

Because the post you agreed with was saying that wishing harm on a human doesn't make that poster sound any better which is something I've seen you do before, it's irrelevant whether your opinion on this story is different, you have wished harm on a human before is all I was saying..........

Of course I have when something cruel is intentional to see the animal in pain and die I wish any animal abuser harm, Its like when some people think getting your dog fat is cruel,it is, but its not done to inflict pain intentionally,so I don't wish harm on them.

[Kazanne]

See ya when bb comes on kaz..take care.:wavey:

Ok Parmy, don't you stay away too long:wavey:

[Maru]

Very disconcerting, the neighbor's letter, because if he true then he it appears he doesn't understand the responsibility he took on with these dogs. Unfortunately, his take on animal ownership is common...

[bots]

it's interesting that under "normal" circumstances the majority of the forum derides tabloid stories, particularly if they come from the Sun and yet here we are :laugh:

I can't stand bear, but I don't believe a word printed in the Sun, so unless it's verified from a reliable source like the RSPCA, it's a work of fiction.