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bots
29-05-2018, 06:37 AM
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England footballer Raheem Sterling has defended his new tattoo of a gun, saying it has a "deeper meaning" and refers to his late father.

Anti-gun campaigners criticised the Manchester City forward after he shared a photo of himself with the tattoo of an M16 assault rifle on his leg.

The image has been called "totally unacceptable" and "sickening".

But Sterling said it reflects a vow he made to "never touch a gun" after his father was shot dead when he was a boy.

Sterling, 23, who will travel to Russia this summer as part of England's World Cup squad, first revealed his tattoo in a photo posted to Instagram of himself in training with team-mates at St George's Park.

Lucy Cope, who founded group Mothers Against Guns after her son was shot dead in 2012, said Sterling should not play for England unless he gets rid of the tattoo.

Speaking to the Sun newspaper, she said: "This tattoo is disgusting. Raheem should hang his head in shame. It's totally unacceptable.

"We demand he has the tattoo lasered off or covered up with a different tattoo.

"If he refuses he should be dropped from the England team. He's supposed to be a role model but chooses to glamorise guns."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44285455

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Whatever his justification for doing it, it won't be perceived well, and its really not appropriate for a player representing their country

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 06:51 AM
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England footballer Raheem Sterling has defended his new tattoo of a gun, saying it has a "deeper meaning" and refers to his late father.

Anti-gun campaigners criticised the Manchester City forward after he shared a photo of himself with the tattoo of an M16 assault rifle on his leg.

The image has been called "totally unacceptable" and "sickening".

But Sterling said it reflects a vow he made to "never touch a gun" after his father was shot dead when he was a boy.

Sterling, 23, who will travel to Russia this summer as part of England's World Cup squad, first revealed his tattoo in a photo posted to Instagram of himself in training with team-mates at St George's Park.

Lucy Cope, who founded group Mothers Against Guns after her son was shot dead in 2012, said Sterling should not play for England unless he gets rid of the tattoo.

Speaking to the Sun newspaper, she said: "This tattoo is disgusting. Raheem should hang his head in shame. It's totally unacceptable.

"We demand he has the tattoo lasered off or covered up with a different tattoo.

"If he refuses he should be dropped from the England team. He's supposed to be a role model but chooses to glamorise guns."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44285455

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Whatever his justification for doing it, it won't be perceived well, and its really not appropriate for a player representing their country

His reason for having the tattoo is ludicrous - pure B.S. - in my opinion.

Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2018, 06:53 AM
That isnt new

it looks awful, no idea why dark skinned people get tattoos but no surprise a thick twat like him would get that

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 06:54 AM
That isnt new

it looks awful, no idea why dark skinned people get tattoos but no surprise a thick twat like him would get that

:laugh:

Beso
29-05-2018, 06:56 AM
She needs to **** with her demands...she aint isis.

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 07:05 AM
She needs to **** with her demands...she aint isis.

:laugh: She is someone's 'sis', Parmy. :hee:

smudgie
29-05-2018, 07:06 AM
“She demands..”
Perhaps if she asked nicely she would have more chance of him taking any notice.
The tatt is personal to him, he could cover it up when playing for England, his choice.:shrug:

thesheriff443
29-05-2018, 07:09 AM
And this dick is going to be wearing an England shirt, complete turd.

arista
29-05-2018, 07:29 AM
He says when he was aged 2
his dad was killed by that Machine Gun,
and it's (the tattoo) not finished yet?

Ref: GMBHD itv, SkyNewsHD

bots
29-05-2018, 07:47 AM
the back story is irrelevant. He will be representing england and has a gun tattoo on his leg

arista
29-05-2018, 07:54 AM
the back story is irrelevant. He will be representing england and has a gun tattoo on his leg



Well he better get it Completed then
whatever else he puts next to the machine gun?

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 08:05 AM
Well he better get it Completed then
whatever else he puts next to the machine gun?

How about a tattoo of his foot because he has shot himself in it. :laugh:

Black Dagger
29-05-2018, 08:49 AM
The Sun are scum. Imagine actually being against Sterling here lol.

Something doesn't qwhite add up as to why you all don't like him x

Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2018, 08:58 AM
The Sun are scum. Imagine actually being against Sterling here lol.

Something doesn't qwhite add up as to why you all don't like him x


I dont think anyone likes him, he is a dick, i doubt you do either

user104658
29-05-2018, 09:09 AM
That isnt new


I was just thinking that. The tattoo in the picture looks several years old :think:

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 09:10 AM
The Sun are scum. Imagine actually being against Sterling here lol.

Something doesn't qwhite add up as to why you all don't like him x

I neither like him nor dislike him - I don't know him or enough about him. I am only commenting on the tattoo - especially his B.S. reason for having it.

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 09:16 AM
Who cares if he has a gun tattoo seriously?

Also, LT, I actually think tattoos look better on dark skinned people alot of the time

Livia
29-05-2018, 09:19 AM
He's a footballer. Surely it's some kind of comment or symbol about "shooting"?

Seriously.... it's a picture. It can't hurt you.

Hysterics like Lucy Cope are the reason our Olympic shooters have to train abroad.

Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2018, 09:30 AM
Who cares if he has a gun tattoo seriously?

Also, LT, I actually think tattoos look better on dark skinned people alot of the time

well i dont know how you can think that when the primary ink is dark blue. It just looks fuzzy, with no detail and rather lost. Its like a poorly executed photograph with bad contrast and sharpness

The whole pointy of Indian Ink originally was the contrast on pale skin. If they could somehow develop a white ink then it would look effective :shrug:

AnnieK
29-05-2018, 09:31 AM
Not quite sure what the problem is with it. Its a tattoo, not a real gun. Don't quite understand the outrage over it.

Oliver_W
29-05-2018, 09:33 AM
He's a footballer. Surely it's some kind of comment or symbol about "shooting"?

I doubt it's a "black people are LITERALLY being shot for NO REASON" type thing as he's not American? So by football it would mean "soccer".

But yeah, it seems like a storm in a teacup really. I never heard of him before, I'll probably never think about him again.

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 09:35 AM
well i dont know how you can think that when the primary ink is dark blue. It just looks fuzzy, with no detail and rather lost. Its like a poorly executed photograph with bad contrast and sharpness

The whole pointy of Indian Ink originally was the contrast on pale skin. If they could somehow develop a white ink then it would look effective :shrug:

Because I have a different opinion to you, clearly

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 09:36 AM
I doubt it's a "black people are LITERALLY being shot for NO REASON" type thing as he's not American? So by football it would mean "soccer".

But yeah, it seems like a storm in a teacup really. I never heard of him before, I'll probably never think about him again.

You never heard of Raheem Sterling? :laugh:

Livia
29-05-2018, 09:54 AM
Rihanna's had a gun tattooo for ages. Not a word said about that... and let's face it, more people know her than know him.

Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2018, 09:55 AM
Its about the only thing he can defend...


:idc:

Livia
29-05-2018, 09:57 AM
Its about the only thing he can defend...


:idc:

One thing you can say about the Scotland national team is that they can all watch the finals from the comfort of their own homes.

bots
29-05-2018, 09:59 AM
One thing you can say about the Scotland national team is that they can all watch the finals from the comfort of their own homes.

The england team will be doing that for the majority of the competition too :laugh:

Livia
29-05-2018, 10:05 AM
The england team will be doing that for the majority of the competition too :laugh:

LOL.... it's funny because it's true...

Oliver_W
29-05-2018, 10:06 AM
You never heard of Raheem Sterling? :laugh:

Nope! My head is rather under a rock when it comes to footballers!

Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2018, 10:07 AM
One thing you can say about the Scotland national team is that they can all watch the finals from the comfort of their own homes.

our boycott of Putin and his tyranny is there to be admired by the world


:hmph:

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 10:15 AM
our boycott of Putin and his tyranny is there to be admired by the world


:hmph:

Indeed, Shame the English have no morals like the Irish and Scottish :idc:

Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2018, 10:19 AM
Indeed, Shame the English have no morals like the Irish and Scottish :idc:

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7WIz6VuygxNQgYhi/source.gif

Denver
29-05-2018, 10:20 AM
The Sun are scum. Imagine actually being against Sterling here lol.

Something doesn't qwhite add up as to why you all don't like him x

He is scum though constantly cheats on gfs and only in football for money

Livia
29-05-2018, 10:21 AM
our boycott of Putin and his tyranny is there to be admired by the world


:hmph:

What was your problem with Brazil in 2014?

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 10:23 AM
Indeed, Shame the English have no morals like the Irish and Scottish :idc:

:laugh:

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 10:26 AM
He is scum though constantly cheats on gfs and only in football for money

Not a pillar of the community like our Salah eh Adam? :love:

Brother Leon
29-05-2018, 11:25 AM
What a load of nonsense. People and the media need to get off his back already.

Denver
29-05-2018, 11:30 AM
Not a pillar of the community like our Salah eh Adam? :love:

Nope Salah always goes back to where he was born and shows his love when will Sterling visit his birth town in Jamaica?

Black Dagger
29-05-2018, 11:31 AM
He is scum though constantly cheats on gfs and only in football for money

Like pretty much every footballer in existence.

Denver
29-05-2018, 11:32 AM
Like pretty much every footballer in existence.

Noo he disrespected Liverpool and the fans then cried when the fans turned against him.

Never bite the hand that fed you

Cherie
29-05-2018, 11:36 AM
They are demanding he has it removed :joker:

his body, his choice :laugh: The football socks will cover it at any rate so not sure what the issue is, it's not tattoed on his forehead.

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 11:37 AM
They are demanding he has it removed :joker:

his body, his choice :laugh: The football socks will cover it at any rate so not sure what the issue is, it's not tattoed on his forehead.

Pro Choice, Pro Bodily Autonomy, it's like reliving the referendum again :hehe:

Cherie
29-05-2018, 11:59 AM
Pro Choice, Pro Bodily Autonomy, it's like reliving the referendum again :hehe:

:hehe:

arista
29-05-2018, 12:17 PM
They are demanding he has it removed :joker:

his body, his choice :laugh: The football socks will cover it at any rate so not sure what the issue is, it's not tattoed on his forehead.


I need to see the completed Tattoo
he said more is to go on that leg?

AnnieK
29-05-2018, 12:27 PM
I need to see the completed Tattoo
he said more is to go on that leg?

But why do you need to see it?

Its only visible on the picture because he was in training. During a match his socks would cover it so again, I don't get what the problem is

Oliver_W
29-05-2018, 12:35 PM
Maybe the tattoo should have been on his arm
Then we could say NICE GUNS BRO!

Cherie
29-05-2018, 12:37 PM
Maybe the tattoo should have been on his arm
Then we could say NICE GUNS BRO!

:laugh:

Cherie
29-05-2018, 12:38 PM
I need to see the completed Tattoo
he said more is to go on that leg?

even so it's his leg, he can do what he likes with it

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 12:40 PM
Maybe the tattoo should have been on his arm
Then we could say NICE GUNS BRO!

:laugh: Or on his dick which would give a whole new meaning to the phrase; 'Rifling through his valuables'.

bots
29-05-2018, 12:45 PM
even so it's his leg, he can do what he likes with it

not on a football field he cant

Oliver_W
29-05-2018, 12:46 PM
:laugh: Or on his dick which would give a whole new meaning to the phrase; 'Rifling through his valuables'.

or "shooting his load"

Cherie
29-05-2018, 12:50 PM
not on a football field he cant

Yes he can as long as it is covered

Tom4784
29-05-2018, 12:52 PM
These kinds of campaigners do nothing but damage their cause. Going on the attack like this just makes them look like dicks and I don't think the tattoo itself is that bad, it's just a picture, not a statement or endorsement.

When you are trying to change the way things are, you do so through helping people understand why, through education, not by attacking people like this especially over something so inconsequential as this. When you look for reasons to attack, you no longer represent your cause, you're just looking to lash out.

Amy Jade
29-05-2018, 01:01 PM
A pathetic campaign it is a blood drawing effectivly do these morons who want his job really not have anything else to fight for?

He has explained the tattoo and says it is an unfinished dedication to his father who was shot to death. The tattoo is to show he 'shoots' with his legs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-44285455

arista
29-05-2018, 01:23 PM
even so it's his leg, he can do what he likes with it


Today the Media is talking about
You Tube UK removing Drill Music Video's
as drug gangs that have that M16
machine gun (that's on his leg)
used in Drill Music Video's as that is
the power to get more youngsters
on their delivery criminal gangs.

Kazanne
29-05-2018, 01:35 PM
:laugh: Or on his dick which would give a whole new meaning to the phrase; 'Rifling through his valuables'.

It would probably be just a water pistol on his todger Kirk.:hehe:

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 01:40 PM
or "shooting his load"

:laugh2: I wish I'd thought of that one instead, Oliver. :laugh:

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 01:43 PM
It would probably be just a water pistol on his todger Kirk.:hehe:

:joker: At least he'd have an excuse if he ever wet his crotch are Kaz.

Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2018, 01:46 PM
But Sterling said it reflects a vow he made to "never touch a gun" after his father was shot dead when he was a boy.

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Yes, because if your father was "gunned down to death" when you were 2 i expect that when you get to 18 the thing you would want to do is look for a semi automatic gun

"just like what killed my old man"



but no Rahim did not, he got a tattoo of the illegal weapon that killed his father and put it in a terrible tattoo on his leg to remind him how his fathers assassin killed him and to remind him that if he wanted to kill someones dad he would do it by..kicking them to death?


:umm2:

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 02:19 PM
But Sterling said it reflects a vow he made to "never touch a gun" after his father was shot dead when he was a boy.

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Yes, because if your father was "gunned down to death" when you were 2 i expect that when you get to 18 the thing you would want to do is look for a semi automatic gun

"just like what killed my old man"



but no Rahim did not, he got a tattoo of the illegal weapon that killed his father and put it in a terrible tattoo on his leg to remind him how his fathers assassin killed him and to remind him that if he wanted to kill someones dad he would do it by..kicking them to death?


:umm2:

The reason he gave for the tattoo is the only problem which I have - I do not care if he was covered in gun tattoos.

His reason is as stupid as saying;

My old man was a soldier in WW2 who died in a Japanese POW Camp so I've had a tattoo of Emperor Hirito on my chest.

B.S.

Tom4784
29-05-2018, 02:34 PM
His reasons are his own, it doesn't really matter whether you think it's a stupid reason, it's his tattoo, his body and his reasoning.

arista
29-05-2018, 02:36 PM
His reasons are his own, it doesn't really matter whether you think it's a stupid reason, it's his tattoo, his body and his reasoning.

Dezzy:
What about "little kids"
Loving M16 machine guns
all because its their Hero Football
has it on his leg

Mystic Mock
29-05-2018, 02:38 PM
Didn't he also say something along the lines of that he shoots with his right foot that's why he placed it on that leg?:laugh3:

thesheriff443
29-05-2018, 02:41 PM
Who cares if he has a gun tattoo seriously?

Also, LT, I actually think tattoos look better on dark skinned people alot of the time

Young kids look up to this moron, so having a gun is totally the wrong message to be sending out to kids.

Tom4784
29-05-2018, 02:41 PM
Dezzy:
What about "little kids"
Loving M16 machine guns
all because its their Hero Football
has it on his leg

If that's the case their parents have failed them completely.

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 02:44 PM
Young kids look up to this moron, so having a gun is totally the wrong message to be sending out to kids.

My son used to have toy guns as a kid :skull:

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 02:44 PM
PC Gone Mad :fan:

arista
29-05-2018, 02:47 PM
If that's the case their parents have failed them completely.


Yes many Parents
let little kids on Tablets/Phones/Internet PC
to get a break etc.

AnnieK
29-05-2018, 02:47 PM
My son used to have toy guns as a kid :skull:

Mine still has......

And the kids who look up to him on the football pitch will not see the tattoo as it will be covered by his socks. People making a massive deal out of this and publishing that one picture of him showing it are making it more known - had no one mentioned it, most people would not have a clue he has it.

Were he walking around with a gun slung over his shoulder I could get the concern but not a tattoo on his leg

thesheriff443
29-05-2018, 02:49 PM
My son used to have toy guns as a kid :skull:

What you getting him for his eighteenth? A tank

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 02:50 PM
What you getting him for his eighteenth? A tank

Oh good idea

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 02:51 PM
Mine still has......

And the kids who look up to him on the football pitch will not see the tattoo as it will be covered by his socks. People making a massive deal out of this and publishing that one picture of him showing it are making it more known - had no one mentioned it, most people would not have a clue he has it.

Were he walking around with a gun slung over his shoulder I could get the concern but not a tattoo on his leg

It's ridiculous

thesheriff443
29-05-2018, 02:51 PM
Oh good idea

I knew you would like it.

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 02:56 PM
I knew you would like it.

Tanks :douf:

thesheriff443
29-05-2018, 02:56 PM
He got a crack pipe tatoo with the words I love crack, but it's all right it's on his back.

Young black kids are shooting each other on the streets in a this country and yet you can't see the link of a young blank man with gun tattoo who is in the public eye.

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 02:59 PM
He got a crack pipe tatoo with the words I love crack, but it's all right it's on his back.

Young black kids are shooting each other on the streets in a this country and yet you can't see the link of a young blank man with gun tattoo who is in the public eye.

So would it be ok if he were a white footballer with a gun tattoo? :think:

Tom4784
29-05-2018, 03:05 PM
So would it be ok if he were a white footballer with a gun tattoo? :think:

It honestly probably would be tbh.

Tom4784
29-05-2018, 03:07 PM
He got a crack pipe tatoo with the words I love crack, but it's all right it's on his back.

Young black kids are shooting each other on the streets in a this country and yet you can't see the link of a young blank man with gun tattoo who is in the public eye.

There is no link, it's a tattoo. It cannot influence anyone to do anything.

thesheriff443
29-05-2018, 03:10 PM
So would it be ok if he were a white footballer with a gun tattoo? :think:

The same applies,

Kids are getting groomed
Kids getting recruited by extremists
Kids drawn into drugs

Sports stars get paid millions to wear clothes and shoes because kids will see them wearing it and want to have the same because they think that person is cool.

So having a gun tatoo will have some kids believe that guns are cool.

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 03:14 PM
Yeah seeing a footballer with a gun tattoo is a gateway to being groomed by extremists

thesheriff443
29-05-2018, 03:14 PM
There is no link, it's a tattoo. It cannot influence anyone to do anything.

So every time David beckham changed his hair style kids didn't ask for his new hair style.

Yeah no leak between kids wanting to be like pop stars movie stars or sports star.

Tom4784
29-05-2018, 03:14 PM
So every time David beckham changed his hair style kids didn't ask for his new hair style.

Yeah no leak between kids wanting to be like pop stars movie stars or sports star.

Bit of a difference between influencing fashion and influencing violence and extremism tbh.

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 03:15 PM
Also, it's illegal to get a tattoo when you're a child anyway so they can't really copy that

Cherie
29-05-2018, 03:16 PM
Nobody would be any the wiser if it hadn't been reported and then turned into a huge deal, watch him on the pitch can you see the tattoo?

thesheriff443
29-05-2018, 03:17 PM
Yeah seeing a footballer with a gun tattoo is a gateway to being groomed by extremists

Well that's what's happening
Like the footballer who gave the girl a football shirt and was then molesting her in his rang rover.

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 03:18 PM
Nobody would be any the wiser if it hadn't been reported and then turned into a huge deal, watch him on the pitch can you see the tattoo?

Exactly, all these "outraged people" are the ones who made it into something

thesheriff443
29-05-2018, 03:18 PM
Bit of a difference between influencing fashion and influencing violence and extremism tbh.

There is a difference but it happens in both cases.

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 03:19 PM
Well that's what's happening
Like the footballer who gave the girl a football shirt and was then molesting her in his rang rover.

How are these things even remotely similar? :worry:

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 03:20 PM
Unless you're suggesting Raheem Sterling is using his Tattoo to recruit people to ISIS or something? i don't know

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 03:25 PM
His reasons are his own, it doesn't really matter whether you think it's a stupid reason, it's his tattoo, his body and his reasoning.

:laugh: Do you know no limits of hypocrisy?

By your reasoning above Tommy Robinson's reasons for being on the street outside the Court in Leeds are his own - it being his life, his choice, his video camera, and his reasoning' - and your opinion of why he was there "doesn't really matter".

Further; this a Serious Debates forum of which I am a member so unless you now actually own it besides just acting as if you do, then I have as much rights as you or any other member to express my opinions - one of which is that this footballer's reason for having the tattoo is STUPID.

Or is this yet another example of your duplicity; that you can crow about Human Rights, Civil Liberties and Equality when it suits your politics and your views but not when someone has the temerity to post an opinion or facts which do not align with your own?

bots
29-05-2018, 03:27 PM
The issue that I have is that he is a representative of England, not just himself. My understanding is that it is a recent tattoo as it hasn't been finished yet. Given that he has been an "adult" for some time, why did he choose to get it done immediately prior to the world cup when he will have the biggest audience. It's all fine and well to say he can wear a sock to cover it up, but now everyone knows he has it and won't give a crap on his reasoning for it. It's clearly a thought out ploy .... why?

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 03:27 PM
:laugh: Do you know no limits of hypocrisy?

By your reasoning above Tommy Robinson's reasons for being on the street outside the Court in Leeds are his own - it being his life, his choice, his video camera, and his reasoning' - and your opinion of why he was "there doesn't really matter".

Further; this a Serious Debates forum of which I am a member so unless you now actually own it besides just acting as if you do, then I have as much rights as you or any other member to express my opinions - one of which is that this footballer's reason for having the tattoo is STUPID.

Or is this yet another example of your duplicity; that you can crow about Human Rights, Civil Liberties and Equality when it suits your politics and your views but not when someone has the temerity to post an opinion or facts which do not align with your own?

That the Tommy Robinson stuff and a footballers tattoos are in anyway similar is one of the most bizarre stretches I've heard here yet

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 03:33 PM
That the Tommy Robinson stuff and a footballers tattoos are in anyway similar is one of the most bizarre stretches I've heard here yet

Not at all, Niamh.

I do not care about this footballer's tattoo as I have already said several times, I do think though that the reason he gave for having it is ridiculous and makes no sense.

I am expressing my opinion on that.

Dezzy does not believe the reason that Robinson gave as to why he was streaming outside that court and he expressed his opinion on that.

What is the difference?

The topics may be different but is it OK for one member to express an opinion doubting motive but not another member to do so?

Niamh.
29-05-2018, 03:37 PM
Not at all, Niamh.

I do not care about this footballer's tattoo as I have already said several times, I do think though that the reason he gave for having it is ridiculous and makes no sense.

I am expressing my opinion on that.

Dezzy does not believe the reason that Robinson gave as to why he was streaming outside that court and he expressed his opinion on that.

What is the difference?

The topics may be different but is it OK for one member to express an opinion doubting motive but not another member to do so?

There's a massive difference, one is someones reason for choosing a tattoo, the other is following around Muslims constantly to prove how bad they are, one is in prison, the other is a professional athlete

kirklancaster
29-05-2018, 03:39 PM
There's a massive difference, one is someones reason for choosing a tattoo, the other is following around Muslims constantly to prove how bad they are, one is in prison, the other is a professional athlete

OK - No problem, you can not see my point, Niamh, but I stand by it.

Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2018, 04:04 PM
Would a picture of his father not have been a better idea than the thing that killed him?

thesheriff443
29-05-2018, 04:29 PM
Would a picture of his father not have been a better idea than the thing that killed him?

If his mum gets run over by a lorry you know what's going on his other leg? Asda

Vladimir
29-05-2018, 05:10 PM
This is ridiculous just like most of the articles about him the past few years. No one bothers to mention his donations to Jamaican schools or his community work but whatever.

Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2018, 05:36 PM
This is ridiculous just like most of the articles about him the past few years. No one bothers to mention his donations to Jamaican schools or his community work but whatever.

incredibly rich guy with masses of spare time donates money shock and does stuff for the club who pays him?


oh wow

thesheriff443
29-05-2018, 05:49 PM
incredibly rich guy with masses of spare time donates money shock and does stuff for the club who pays him?


oh wow

Donating to charity is a tax break.

Crimson Dynamo
30-05-2018, 08:53 AM
Damilola Taylor’s dad slams Raheem Sterling for reckless gun tattoo and demands he apologises to families of gun victims

THE dad of Damilola Taylor yesterday urged England’s Raheem Sterling to apologise over his gun tattoo — for the sake of the kids who idolise him.

Richard Taylor, whose ten-year-old son was killed in a street attack, said: “I’m totally against Sterling’s decision to glamorise guns.

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“Footballers need to be aware kids look up to them. He must apologise to the families of gun victims.”

Richard, 70, accused Sterling of recklessly glamorising a gun culture that is claiming the lives of youngsters and bringing misery to families.

He said the striker’s decision to show off a tattoo of an M16 assault rifle on his leg was “totally unacceptable” — and set a terrible example to his impressionable young fans.

He added: “Enough is enough from these footballers. They need to be aware young people look up to them.

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“Too many times they have been part of the problem of guns and knives and gangs and drugs in our communities.”

Richard said Manchester City star Sterling’s behaviour was particularly irresponsible at a time when gun and knife-related deaths have risen sharply.

He added: “This is not a time to be glamorising guns — when we have more than 60 dead on the streets of London this year.

“They have become toys in the hands of our youths. This is a critical time when we’ve got all hands on deck to stop the violence.

TV pundit and misguided SJW twat Gary Lineker tweeted: “Unique to this country to attempt to destroy our players’ morale before a major tournament. It’s weird, unpatriotic and sad.”

But Richard, awarded an OBE in 2011 for campaigning against violent crime, said: “Gary Lineker’s comments are extremely disappointing.

“I am really annoyed at him. It undermines everything we are trying to do to stop the violence.


“Is England’s performance at the World Cup more important than young lives lost on London’s streets? Lineker doesn’t know the pain of parents who have lost children to violence.”

Richard’s son Damilola was 10 when he bled to death after being attacked in Peckham, South East London, in 2000.

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6406492/raheem-sterling-gun-tattoo-damilola-taylor-dad-richard-taylor/

Niamh.
30-05-2018, 09:23 AM
I'm with Gary Lineker on this one tbh PC gone Mad I tell you

Livia
30-05-2018, 09:40 AM
Still no word on people's reaction to Rihanna's tattoos.

http://stealherstyle.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/rihanna-gun-side-tattoo-500x375.jpg

http://www.tattoostime.com/images/413/rihanna-with-gun-tattoo-on-right-thigh.jpg


Can't get that second pic to pop up... you'll have to click it, I'm afraid.

Crimson Dynamo
30-05-2018, 09:58 AM
I'm with Gary Lineker on this one tbh PC gone Mad I tell you

So if he got a tattoo that said "Kill all Police"? or "Irish folk r Tic"

you would not see a problem for a man representing his country on a world stage?

Niamh.
30-05-2018, 10:00 AM
So if he got a tattoo that said "Kill all Police"? or "Irish folk r Tic"

you would not see a problem for a man representing his country on a world stage?

I would assume he had a crap tattooist who'd left out the "fantas" :hee:

Kazanne
30-05-2018, 10:01 AM
Still no word on people's reaction to Rihanna's tattoos.

http://stealherstyle.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/rihanna-gun-side-tattoo-500x375.jpg

http://www.tattoostime.com/images/413/rihanna-with-gun-tattoo-on-right-thigh.jpg


Can't get that second pic to pop up... you'll have to click it, I'm afraid.

This will be interesting :laugh:

bots
30-05-2018, 10:03 AM
Can't get that second pic to pop up... you'll have to click it, I'm afraid.
Only for you .... :laugh:

http://www.tattoostime.com/images/413/rihanna-with-gun-tattoo-on-right-thigh.jpg

and to answer your question, I personally don't like it one bit, but she is not representing her country on a supposedly politics free world stage

Crimson Dynamo
30-05-2018, 10:05 AM
I would assume he had a crap tattooist who'd left out the "fantas" :hee:

and the "In arney r great"



:hee:

Beso
30-05-2018, 10:05 AM
Wonder what her excuse is, somewhere to shoot maybe.

Brillopad
30-05-2018, 10:06 AM
Still no word on people's reaction to Rihanna's tattoos.

http://stealherstyle.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/rihanna-gun-side-tattoo-500x375.jpg

http://www.tattoostime.com/images/413/rihanna-with-gun-tattoo-on-right-thigh.jpg


Can't get that second pic to pop up... you'll have to click it, I'm afraid.

The woman is so classy! :hehe: where would she be without her music career I wonder.

Livia
30-05-2018, 10:07 AM
Only for you .... :laugh:

http://www.tattoostime.com/images/413/rihanna-with-gun-tattoo-on-right-thigh.jpg

How the f....

I am having a breakdown I'm sure of it. Or maybe it's early onset dementia or something. I think the technical term might be I've suddenly got sh1t for brains.

Niamh.
30-05-2018, 10:08 AM
tbf you can actual own a gun in America so what's the problem with a tattoo of one, it should be the actual ones people are worried about :laugh:

Livia
30-05-2018, 10:14 AM
I agree Niamh. It's the shooty-bang ones you have to worry about. That is the level of my vocabulary today.

Niamh.
30-05-2018, 10:15 AM
I agree Niamh. It's the shooty-bang ones you have to worry about. That is the level of my vocabulary today.

:laugh2:

Crimson Dynamo
30-05-2018, 10:16 AM
tbf you can actual own a gun in America so what's the problem with a tattoo of one, it should be the actual ones people are worried about :laugh:

I think its the fact he lied about his dead dad

That twat got a semi-auto on his leg simply because "my leg shoots like a gun innit?"

:bored:

bots
30-05-2018, 10:17 AM
I agree Niamh. It's the shooty-bang ones you have to worry about. That is the level of my vocabulary today.

Thank **** you are not representing me today :joker:

Livia
30-05-2018, 10:38 AM
Thank **** you are not representing me today :joker:

Like you would ever be in trouble....

thesheriff443
30-05-2018, 11:02 AM
Wonder what her excuse is, somewhere to shoot maybe.

I'm sure someone has popped a cap in her ass

chuff me dizzy
30-05-2018, 11:30 AM
His leg .... His choice ,no one elses business

GoldHeart
30-05-2018, 11:51 AM
Still no word on people's reaction to Rihanna's tattoos.

http://stealherstyle.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/rihanna-gun-side-tattoo-500x375.jpg

http://www.tattoostime.com/images/413/rihanna-with-gun-tattoo-on-right-thigh.jpg


Can't get that second pic to pop up... you'll have to click it, I'm afraid.

Tattoos can look amazing especially the right ink and the perfect design and it's like a work of art .

However some other tattoos can look ugly & tacky and although I've never understand the fascination with gun tattoos and I find them tacky, you can't tell people what they should and shouldn't tattoo on their skin / body :facepalm: .

I understand people not liking it ,I personally don't like gun tattoos either. But like mentioned there's a few celebrities and people in general with gun tattoos .

kirklancaster
30-05-2018, 12:10 PM
I would assume he had a crap tattooist who'd left out the "fantas" :hee:

:laugh: He SHOULD have seen that coming.

kirklancaster
30-05-2018, 12:14 PM
I think its the fact he lied about his dead dad

That twat got a semi-auto on his leg simply because "my leg shoots like a gun innit?"

:bored:

So was I correct that his reason for having the tattoo was illogical B.S.?

Vicky.
30-05-2018, 12:14 PM
Big fuss about nothing. And interesting point about Rihanna too. Seems some just want to take offense to this particular person? Why? Also yes to the moaners being the ones who publicized this anyway. His socks will cover most/all of it anyway.

However I do agree with those saying the reason he is giving for getting it seems...bull****.

Denver
30-05-2018, 12:17 PM
I wonder what his 10 kids thought of it

kirklancaster
30-05-2018, 12:37 PM
Big fuss about nothing. And interesting point about Rihanna too. Seems some just want to take offense to this particular person? Why? Also yes to the moaners being the ones who publicized this anyway. His socks will cover most/all of it anyway.

However I do agree with those saying the reason he is giving for getting it seems...bull****.

Thank you, Vicky.

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Tom4784
30-05-2018, 12:50 PM
There is a difference but it happens in both cases.

Got any examples of people seeing a tattoo and deciding to become a terrorist then?

Tom4784
30-05-2018, 12:53 PM
There's a massive difference, one is someones reason for choosing a tattoo, the other is following around Muslims constantly to prove how bad they are, one is in prison, the other is a professional athlete

Tommy Robinson also endangered the trial of a peadophile ring by giving them ammunition for a mistrial and potentially risked the anonymity of their underage victims but that's okay because he hates muslims, I guess?

This topic isn't ultimately about Tommy Robinson, I can already see that he is becoming the new Corbyn...being dragged into every thread for petty point scoring whether it suits the topic or not.

Tom4784
30-05-2018, 12:54 PM
Would a picture of his father not have been a better idea than the thing that killed him?

It's up to him how he decides to pay tribute to his own father. Would you like someone telling you how to pay tribute or grieve for someone you've lost?

Crimson Dynamo
30-05-2018, 12:56 PM
It's up to him how he decides to pay tribute to his own father. Would you like someone telling you how to pay tribute or grieve for someone you've lost?

He is lying, the gun is because he thinks his leg is a gun and the ball a bullet

he got called out and caught for being a crass idiot and has even brought in his dead dad to cover his sorry ass

as I am quite sure you know..

Tom4784
30-05-2018, 12:58 PM
He is lying, the gun is because he thinks his leg is a gun and the ball a bullet

he got called out and caught for being a crass idiot and has even brought in his dead dad to cover his sorry ass

as I am quite sure you know..

Okay, you're obviously an expert on the inner working of his brain and the choices he makes regarding his own body. You obviously know his mind better than he does. You're an expert on the man.

Crimson Dynamo
30-05-2018, 12:59 PM
Okay, you're obviously an expert on the inner working of his brain and the choices he makes regarding his own body. You obviously know his mind better than he does. You're an expert on the man.

thankyou

:douf:

Niamh.
30-05-2018, 01:04 PM
Tommy Robinson also endangered the trial of a peadophile by giving them ammunition for a mistrial and potentially risked the anonymity of their underage victims but that's okay because he hates muslims, I guess?

This topic isn't ultimately about Tommy Robinson, I can already see that he is becoming the new Corbyn...being dragged into every thread for petty point scoring whether it suits the topic or not.

Getting a tattoo of a gun is much worse :oh:

Brother Leon
30-05-2018, 06:10 PM
Would a picture of his father not have been a better idea than the thing that killed him?

The whole point of the tattoo is that instead of grabbing a gun as he got older and falling off the rails with the loss of his father, he worked hard to make him proud and now instead his right foot is essentially what he shoots with.

It’s honestly not that hard to grasp.