Man confronted boy who allegedly was damaging cars Was the man justified in actions?

[Crimson Dynamo]

USA

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[arista]

USA

Yes the man was correct.

[Calderyon]

The kid was clearly egging him to do something so i understand why the man did what he did.

The kid tried to get a moral advantage and failed miserably.

Silly stupid kid who got what he deserved imo.

[Shaun]

Kill the kid with fire.

[Calderyon]

Also the kid assaulted him and the man only did what I think bouncers would do if you cause disturbance.

[kirklancaster]

First of all, No Way did the man 'Hit' the feral little twat to the ground, he pushed him to the ground.

Secondly, the man was at fault - for not shoving the would-be bullying little twat to the ground earlier than he did.

Thirdly, the woman who the feral little twat was threatening, berating and calling a *****' should have shoved him back to the ground - only with a lot more force than the man used.

Lastly, the little twat screaming and crying in reaction to that little shove is exactly the reaction of adult bullies when they get whupped, and as such is confirmation that cowardice starts in childhood.

Yes. The man was justified in his actions - in my opinion.

[kirklancaster]

The kid was clearly egging him to do something so i understand why the man did what he did.

The kid tried to get a moral advantage and failed miserably.

Silly stupid kid who got what he deserved imo.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[user104658]

To be fair I was ready to say "no" because a flat out punch would have been too much from a grown man but actually, just grabbing him and shoving him off when he's following and repeatedly hitting him doesn't seem that excessive. Obviously there are much bigger issues going on with this kid though... he's not ended up like that for no reason, and it looks like he's on a very bad and very angry path that will most likely lead to him getting properly hurt when he's a bit older.

His exaggerated "hurt" reaction, too! :umm2:... transitioning into a demonic "**** YOU *****!!" as soon as he realises they saw the whole thing.

Also how short is that guy they're actually pretty much the same size :joker:

[Nicky91]

Kill the kid with fire.

:joker: :joker: :joker:

[kirklancaster]

To be fair I was ready to say "no" because a flat out punch would have been too much from a grown man but actually, just grabbing him and shoving him off when he's following and repeatedly hitting him doesn't seem that excessive. Obviously there are much bigger issues going on with this kid though... he's not ended up like that for no reason, and it looks like he's on a very bad and very angry path that will most likely lead to him getting properly hurt when he's a bit older.

His exaggerated "hurt" reaction, too! :umm2:... transitioning into a demonic "**** YOU *****!!" as soon as he realises they saw the whole thing.

Also how short is that guy they're actually pretty much the same size :joker:

:laugh: I noticed that too - I suppose it stops any critics saying; "Pick on somebody your own size". :joker:

[Northern Monkey]

Hopefully that little ****bag learned a lesson there that will later save him from a proper ass whooping.The guy might have done him a favour.
Bullies like that often get cocky and overestimate their strength as they’re used to hitting smaller kids.

Reasonable force imo.

[user104658]

Hopefully that little ****bag learned a lesson there that will later save him from a proper ass whooping.

It doesn't really sound like it though.

[Northern Monkey]

It doesn't really sound like it though.

He might reflect later


Specially when all his mates see him screaming like a girl on Youtube :laugh:

[arista]

He might reflect later


Specially when all his mates see him screaming like a girl on Youtube :laugh:


Yes
all put on.

[Kazanne]

Too many little ****s like this about,lack of discipline and good parenting,is the problem,the guy was really patient,good job it's not in Britain the guy who pushed him would have got a prison sentence , and the kid a free holiday and Playstation.!!!

[kirklancaster]

Too many little ****s like this about,lack of discipline and good parenting,is the problem,the guy was really patient,good job it's not in Britain the guy who pushed him would have got a prison sentence , and the kid a free holiday and Playstation.!!!

:laugh2: And it would be on top of the Court awarding the poor little mite £10 trillion pounds compensation from the man who was found guilty of 'Assaulting' him. :laugh:

[Ammi]

...no I don’t think the guy was just justified in pushing the child to the ground at the moment which he did...he was just about to walk through the door..he was one or two steps away from putting physical distance between them...so it’s confusing the push happening then to me, it didn’t seem to serve any purpose at all in ‘defence’ terms...whatever the behaviour before and after in the child’s anger and verbal behaviour...For me, the push didn’t seem justified at that time when he was about to enter the door and be removed from the situation and the child’s behaviour....


...really so sad to see a child like that..:sad:...

[user104658]

Specially when all his mates see him screaming like a girl on Youtube :laugh:

No, that's part of their "thing" now, it's quite worrying really. Push for a reaction (even just a verbal one) and then act terrified / scream / shout for help, literally throw THEMSELVES to the ground crying a-la Christiano Ronaldo and say it was assault. Another common one is going up to people all polite and worried saying things like "Excuse me... that man is taking pictures of us... we're worried he might be a paedophile." if someone tries to take pictures of kids vandalising something, for example.

Like in this example, the kids scream / cry wasn't real. He wasn't hurt, he wasn't scared, he was trying to get the guy in **** and that was his intention right from the start. He properly kicks off straight away when he's doing his "child abuse!" plea to the woman who then says "I saw it all", and he barks back "You didn't see ****!" and then gets increasingly frustrated.

[user104658]

...really so sad to see a child like that..:sad:...

I do agree with that Ammi and like I said, there are obviously much bigger issues going on in this kid's life, to make him so angry at the world.

[Ammi]

I do agree with that Ammi and like I said, there are obviously much bigger issues going on in this kid's life, to make him so angry at the world.

...yeah ‘bullies’ are usually victims which is the sad thing TS...I’ve seen../felt so much frustration like his in my lifetime and I know what an unhappy child he must be for whatever reason that unhappiness comes from...very sad...maybe this will highlight it to the help he needs and hopefully gets...

[smudgie]

Well if he wants to scream and shout give him something to scream and shout about.
A good swift kick up his arse should do the trick.:blush:

[kirklancaster]

Well if he wants to scream and shout give him something to scream and shout about.
A good swift kick up his arse should do the trick.:blush:

Well said, Smudgie.

[Cherie]

...yeah ‘bullies’ are usually victims which is the sad thing TS...I’ve seen../felt so much frustration like his in my lifetime and I know what an unhappy child he must be for whatever reason that unhappiness comes from...very sad...maybe this will highlight it to the help he needs and hopefully gets...

Well if he wants to scream and shout give him something to scream and shout about.
A good swift kick up his arse should do the trick.:blush:


the conflicted face of TiBB :laugh:

[Cherie]

I've had a look at the video now, his friend in the green tshirt is so sweet :love: it's possible the child has type of some learning disability or he could just be a spoilt brat with really poor role models, its hard to tell, though from the reaction of the friend I would say the former.

[arista]

Ammi
he was not Hurt with that push,
it will teach him not to punch a man
again.

Next Time
A Man could pull out a gun
and Pistol Whip
his head or do more damage.

[Tom4784]

That kid is a prime advertisement for abortion.

He's awful but the adult shouldn't have thrown him to the ground.

[arista]

That kid is a prime advertisement for abortion.

He's awful but the adult shouldn't have thrown him to the ground.


The kid needs professional help
The Parent or Parents
have no idea...................................

[Kizzy]

Nope I wouldn't have pushed him, He was assaulting him holding the brat at arms length would have been sufficient. Assaulting him back just shows you have lost control of the situation.

[GiRTh]

Guy showed far more restraint than I would. This is very difficult situation; if the guy was a trained law enforcement officer then I agree he used too much force but I assume he's not. Different people act differently under pressure and in the face of extreme provocation I have no problems with the way he handled it

[arista]

Nope I wouldn't have pushed him, He was assaulting him holding the brat at arms length would have been sufficient. Assaulting him back just shows you have lost control of the situation.

Then you get KICKED?

[Jamie89]

He's very lucky, the kids head came pretty close to smacking against that wall (never mind the concrete floor) and it could have been a very different story. And it wasn't even necessary, he could have easily turned around and walked through the door. I'm not sure what lesson this is supposed to teach the kid, that two wrongs make a right, or to meet violence with violence? Not really the kinds of lessons we usually try and teach children. And I'd say those are the kinds of lessons that definitely shouldn't be taught to a child like him. This was more about punishing him in a moment of rage, yes he was provoked but given the potential consequences, the fact he could have walked away, and it being a child, I don't think he was justified at all.

[user104658]

Having given it thought, I don't think it was necessary and it also wouldn't be what I would have done, and also, it wasn't really the right decision as he gave the kid exactly what he was looking for (he definitely wanted that to happen - the part he didn't want to happen was no one taking action against the man) AND yes he could have accidentally done much more damage and gotten himself into a very bad situation, so it wasn't the smart move.

I also wouldn't say it was "justified", exactly, being done out of anger. However I do think it was understandable in a way, the reaction isn't shocking or surprising, especially as it was exactly the reaction that the kid was trying to get. So yeah, I guess that's where I fall on this one. He shouldn't have done it and the right / smart thing to do was to walk away, however I don't particularly "judge him" for doing it.

[AnnieK]

He's 9? Nope cannot justify an adult doing that to a 9 year old no matter what. A stranger puts his hands on my kid, no matter what he's done is in trouble. Ring the police, restrain (safely) anything but put your hands on him and shove him, no no. Its too easy for a shove like to end a childs life....

No doubt about it, the child needs to know he can't act like that, but for a grown man to do that is unnecessary.

[Maru]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/xT1XGOSpbtYvl9HlGE/giphy.gif

Versus that guy
https://media3.giphy.com/media/B8QB9ZhUrTecE/giphy.gif


One of my favorite scenes in Silicon Valley

[bots]

The guy had no real need to hit him or push him, but then the kid could have produced a knife and you can bet a dollar that the next time he does something like this again, he will

[user104658]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/B8QB9ZhUrTecE/giphy.gif


LT when the Chat & Games kids come into SD?

[Livia]

The guy lost it. And he took a lot longer to lose it than I would have. If he'd been dicking around with my car I'd have pushed him too, let alone if he'd punched me. Little ****... I'd love to see the parents.

[Kazanne]

LT when the Chat & Games kids come into SD?

:joker::joker:

[Cherie]

LT when the Chat & Games kids come into SD?

:joker:

[Cal.]

That little brat deserved it.