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Crimson Dynamo
21-06-2018, 09:41 AM
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"PUTO" is what they chant to opposing goalies as they take a goal kick (lots of English clubs sing "yor sh1t aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh" as the kick is taken. Rangers fans for example sing "paedos, paedos, paedos" to the celtic fans and so forth.(the idea is to wind up opposibg fans and is not some comment on society)

Mexicans have long shouted a slang word for a male sex worker at games, which gay rights groups argue is homophobic.

FIFA slapped the Mexicans with a CHF 10,000 fine for what it called “discriminatory and insulting chants” during their surprise 1-0 win over Germany on Sunday.

The chant was widely heard at Mexico games in the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, when FIFA took no action, but the governing body has since launched a clamp-down. Other Latin American teams, including Argentina and Chile, have also been fined.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-elsalvador/grandmother-in-el-salvador-prays-for-detained-granddaughter-idUSKBN1JH0A2

Good old Fifa...

Livia
21-06-2018, 09:44 AM
Oh dear, we can't have anyone offended, can we.

Does this mean that swear words derogatory to women will also be banned and incur fines? Or is it just words that upset gay people?

It's ****ing madness.

Nicky91
21-06-2018, 09:45 AM
silly homophobic mexicans then, ruining their best moment (winning over world champions Germany) with this

Livia
21-06-2018, 09:47 AM
Oh Nicky....

Nicky91
21-06-2018, 09:48 AM
Oh Nicky....

it was mexico's best moment ever, winning against Germany was so unexpected and a absolute Delight

i hate that something awful as this has to ruin the positivity for them

Crimson Dynamo
21-06-2018, 09:49 AM
it hasnt, they dont give 2 hoots

Toy Soldier
21-06-2018, 11:14 AM
LT pretending that the "Paedos" chant isn't sectarian / based in the idea that Catholic priests are paedophiles.

Come on LT. I mean, I know the sectarianism / violence and rivalry between the two clubs is significantly diminished since Rangers was cancelled, but let's not start pretending that Old Firm chants are based harmless friendly banter :facepalm:. I mean it might fool some of the Southern lot, but I grew up in Ayrshire ffs :joker:.

Marsh.
21-06-2018, 11:15 AM
Omg, how dare society try to move on from racism and homophobia. It's only a laugh guys.

bots
21-06-2018, 11:28 AM
Fifa bringing attention to it will likely just make the crowd do it more, let's see what happens at the next game. It's interesting that they fine Mexico for this and yet turn a blind eye to sepp blatter attending a world cup match when banned entirely from all matters related to football, including attending matches :idc:

Rob!
21-06-2018, 11:30 AM
Oh dear, we can't have anyone offended, can we.

Does this mean that swear words derogatory to women will also be banned and incur fines? Or is it just words that upset gay people?

It's ****ing madness.

It’s amazing how the free speech argument only comes up in situations like this.

Crimson Dynamo
21-06-2018, 11:31 AM
LT pretending that the "Paedos" chant isn't sectarian / based in the idea that Catholic priests are paedophiles.

Come on LT. I mean, I know the sectarianism / violence and rivalry between the two clubs is significantly diminished since Rangers was cancelled, but let's not start pretending that Old Firm chants are based harmless friendly banter :facepalm:. I mean it might fool some of the Southern lot, but I grew up in Ayrshire ffs :joker:.

Good, i dislike cults of all flavours and catholicsm is one of the vilest of all

Kizzy
21-06-2018, 11:41 AM
It's foozbal... there will be chants, it's (moslty) men being all base and such howling like bald chimps at anything and everything in 'support' of their chosen team.

There needs to be a equal football field though, if one offensive chant is banned they all should be.

Toy Soldier
21-06-2018, 11:52 AM
Good, i dislike cults of all flavours and catholicsm is one of the vilest of all

Other than certain football fanatics. Apparently.

Northern Monkey
21-06-2018, 12:00 PM
Yeah this stuff happens a footy games.Last one i went to many moons ago was against some Russian team and the Leeds fans were shouting “Ooh ah Chechny-ya!Ooh ah Chechnya” and “He’s just a **** Russian bastard!”

Twosugars
21-06-2018, 12:01 PM
Good, i dislike cults of all flavours and catholicsm is one of the vilest of all

lovely churches tho

Cherie
21-06-2018, 12:02 PM
LT pretending that the "Paedos" chant isn't sectarian / based in the idea that Catholic priests are paedophiles.

Come on LT. I mean, I know the sectarianism / violence and rivalry between the two clubs is significantly diminished since Rangers was cancelled, but let's not start pretending that Old Firm chants are based harmless friendly banter :facepalm:. I mean it might fool some of the Southern lot, but I grew up in Ayrshire ffs :joker:.

Have they been fined? of course not.....

Tom4784
21-06-2018, 12:09 PM
Oh dear, we can't have anyone offended, can we.

Does this mean that swear words derogatory to women will also be banned and incur fines? Or is it just words that upset gay people?

It's ****ing madness.

Yes, how dare Fifa make a concentrated effort to stamp out homophobia from a game that has a horrid past and tempestuous present with homophobia.

Beso
21-06-2018, 12:23 PM
The celtic paedo thing stems from the abuse of cetic youth players that the club covered up for years....

Beso
21-06-2018, 12:24 PM
Yes, how dare Fifa make a concentrated effort to stamp out homophobia from a game that has a horrid past and tempestuous present with homophobia.

That will be why russia got the gig and why saudi and iran are partaking this time..
..good old fifa.:joker:

Nicky91
21-06-2018, 12:27 PM
The celtic paedo thing stems from the abuse of cetic youth players that the club covered up for years....

also happens here in holland, abuse of dutch youth players at clubs like Vitesse, NAC Breda in their youth teams

both clubs had those youth coaches who sexually abused the youth players sacked and they have no other job ever since that incident

Greg!
21-06-2018, 12:27 PM
Good! A lot of football fans seem to be stuck in the dark ages and it's about time they learned it's not acceptable. They're grown adults ffs

Crimson Dynamo
21-06-2018, 12:33 PM
Yes, how dare Fifa make a concentrated effort to stamp out homophobia from a game that has a horrid past and tempestuous present with homophobia.

yes and fining a nation some pennies for ribbing a goalie that he is a sex worker is the way forward (in Russia)

:joker:

MTVN
21-06-2018, 12:41 PM
Rules are rules

Crimson Dynamo
21-06-2018, 01:00 PM
Rules are rules

and FIFA are just the boys to stick to them

:umm2:

Livia
21-06-2018, 01:14 PM
It’s amazing how the free speech argument only comes up in situations like this.

I'm not sure what you're getting at, and until I do I can't possibly answer you.

If everyone stopped being so terribly offended over the least little thing, then we're never going to be able to deal with real cases of homophobia and racism.

Toy Soldier
21-06-2018, 01:32 PM
Have they been fined? of course not.....

Rangers? I hope not. If they fine them £10 they won't be able to afford their half-time oranges :joker:

montblanc
21-06-2018, 01:37 PM
I'm not sure what you're getting at, and until I do I can't possibly answer you.

If everyone stopped being so terribly offended over the least little thing, then we're never going to be able to deal with real cases of homophobia and racism.

microaggressions are racist and homophobic though

it may seem like a “little thing” because it’s so normalized in society

Crimson Dynamo
21-06-2018, 01:42 PM
Are all male sex workers in SA gay does anyone know?

Tom4784
21-06-2018, 01:48 PM
I'm not sure what you're getting at, and until I do I can't possibly answer you.

If everyone stopped being so terribly offended over the least little thing, then we're never going to be able to deal with real cases of homophobia and racism.

But as a straight person who are you to dictate what is homophobia and what isn't?

montblanc
21-06-2018, 01:49 PM
Are all male sex workers in SA gay does anyone know?

idk are they

Crimson Dynamo
21-06-2018, 01:50 PM
idk are they

well isnt it crucial to the argument?

ArgyESC
21-06-2018, 01:50 PM
It's just disrespectful to throw insults to the opposing team, no matter what kind of insult tbh

Crimson Dynamo
21-06-2018, 01:51 PM
It's just disrespectful to throw insults to the opposing team, no matter what kind of insult tbh

er have you ever been to a football match?

montblanc
21-06-2018, 01:51 PM
well isnt it crucial to the argument?

i’m pretty sure these hyper masculine soccer fans aren’t chanting about a straight male sex worker

ArgyESC
21-06-2018, 01:52 PM
er have you ever been to a football match?

Like once or twice, I don't know much about football. I just expressed my opinion on the matter.

Crimson Dynamo
21-06-2018, 01:55 PM
i’m pretty sure these hyper masculine soccer fans aren’t chanting about a straight male sex worker

to be fair if you look at the videos its a good mix of men women and kids that go to international games

Crimson Dynamo
21-06-2018, 01:56 PM
Like once or twice, I don't know much about football. I just expressed my opinion on the matter.

ok I understand

montblanc
21-06-2018, 02:03 PM
to be fair if you look at the videos its a good mix of men women and kids that go to international games

misogyny isn't gender or age exclusive?

Marsh.
21-06-2018, 02:03 PM
I'm not sure what you're getting at, and until I do I can't possibly answer you.

If everyone stopped being so terribly offended over the least little thing, then we're never going to be able to deal with real cases of homophobia and racism.

But if cases like this allow homophobia and all the other forms of bigotry in the world to remain normalised, it does nothing to help the bigger forms of it.

Beso
21-06-2018, 02:06 PM
But if cases like this allow homophobia and all the other forms of bigotry in the world to remain normalised, it does nothing to help the bigger forms of it.

Yes, like all these nations with appalling human rights records towards lgbt community....why do fifa allow them to participate while fining a nation for something they have no control over.....hypocricy and greed.

MTVN
21-06-2018, 02:13 PM
Why does the link in the OP take me to an article about a Grandmother in El Salvador

Marsh.
21-06-2018, 02:13 PM
Yes, like all these nations with appalling human rights records towards lgbt community....why do fifa allow them to participate while fining a nation for something they have no control over.....hypocricy and greed.

Because Fifa only have control over what happens at the games. Obviously.

Beso
21-06-2018, 02:14 PM
Because Fifa only have control over what happens at the games. Obviously.

If thats the case they should fine themselves then for failing to stop the chants.

Fifa controls who can and cant take part, its thier cup ffs....:shrug:

Crimson Dynamo
21-06-2018, 02:18 PM
Why does the link in the OP take me to an article about a Grandmother in El Salvador

You must have your porn searches cached to your links?

Cherie
21-06-2018, 02:21 PM
Rangers? I hope not. If they fine them £10 they won't be able to afford their half-time oranges :joker:

:joker: