Leave to Remain

[Cherie]

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/documents-formalities/eu-nationals-permanent-residence/index_en.htm


So you can remain if you have lived in the UK for 5 years, the sticking point is that it is 5 years of tax paying, not 5 years of residency

thoughts?

I think that is fair enough personally

[arista]

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/documents-formalities/eu-nationals-permanent-residence/index_en.htm


So you can remain if you have lived in the UK for 5 years, the sticking point is that it is 5 years of tax paying, not 5 years of residency

thoughts?

I think that is fair enough personally



Yes but some can Not go online
to do the form
so they will need help.

[Vicky.]

Hmm. I understand why this idea would be popular with some people, however I also think like...how I would feel if I had moved to another country, got a job contributed to start with, lost my job because of a recession or some other reason beyond my control, or became ill, and then am punished for that and basically kicked out and made to go back to somewhere I have not lived in years, where I will not have anywhere to live or anything. So yeah, on this I have splinters in my arse from sitting on the fence tbh.

Edit. Oh it doesnt actually say leave if not 5 years of taxpaying. It says looking for work also qualifies. Though no mention of illness. Should read link before replying really, I tend to reply to the post rather than the link, then read the link, which is a bad habit :laugh:

[Toy Soldier]

I thought this was going to be about switching Brexit allegiances :hehe:

[Twosugars]

Agree with Vicky, what about people who are supported by a spouse or just economically inactive because of variety of circumstances?

[Cherie]

I thought this was going to be about switching Brexit allegiances :hehe:



Leave to remain, I get it :laugh:

[Toy Soldier]

Agree with Vicky, what about people who are supported by a spouse or just economically inactive because of variety of circumstances?

I would imagine an actual spouse / co-parent would have the right to stay (it does say something at the bottom about families), but I would wonder what happens if it's an unmarried couple with no children where one is working and the other isn't?

[Cherie]

I would imagine an actual spouse / co-parent would have the right to stay (it does say something at the bottom about families), but I would wonder what happens if it's an unmarried couple with no children where one is working and the other isn't?

Isn't living with someone more or less the same as a civil partnership though

[Cherie]

Anyway the good news is for you all is that I am staying :hee:

[arista]

Anyway the good news is for you all is that I am staying :hee:



That's
good to hear
Madame Cherie

[Cherie]

That's
good to hear
Madame Cherie

:love:

[Northern Monkey]

I thought this was going to be about switching Brexit allegiances :hehe:

I thought this too.Those words can’t be used in any other context now since we’ve all got Brexit-brains.

[Kizzy]

Wonder if that will cover those cover those studying here within that 5yrs?

[Vicky.]

Yeah it says if you can prove you are studying also you are fine

[Vicky.]

You need to send different supporting documents with your application, depending on your situation (employed, self-employed, jobseeker, pensioner, student). This could include:

a valid registration certificate issued when you arrived in the host country
evidence that you've been living in the country, such as utility bills and rental contracts
evidence such as payslips, bank statements, tax returns that you've been working, studying, self-employed, self-sufficient or looking for work


A bit of a bummer for those who have been here like..4 years 11 months or something though D:

[Kizzy]

The link in the OP is from december last yr, that'll be subject to change shortly won't it?

[Cherie]

The link in the OP is from december last yr, that'll be subject to change shortly won't it?

It was agreed yesterday there were talking about it this morning but couldn't find anything particularly new on it, so feel free to post if you find it.

[jaxie]

I would imagine an actual spouse / co-parent would have the right to stay (it does say something at the bottom about families), but I would wonder what happens if it's an unmarried couple with no children where one is working and the other isn't?

Not necessarily. I know this is about the EU but for non EU married or engaged couples it's really difficult and complex,. I read about a couple the other day who are living in Ireland temporarily because the wife is South African and after living here 2 years and going on holiday abroad, they wouldn't let her back in. Her husband had to let the house while they are in Ireland trying to get back in and the people renting the house had a cannabis farm in it and burned it down.

I've read about a few cases where there is a child, living with the UK parent whilest the non UK parent can't get back in after a visit to relatives etc.

1 year and 8 months and we are still waiting for my family members fiance to get here and they meet all the legal requirements.

Some of it is institutional racism I think.

I can't think of any reason, after 40 years of having no voice on the EU why any would switch allegiances from leave to remain. Just saying.

[Cherie]

Not necessarily. I read about a couple the other day who are living in Ireland temporarily because the wife is South African and after living here 2 years and going on holiday abroad, they wouldn't let her back in. Her husband had to let the house while they are in Ireland trying to get back in and the people renting the house had a cannabis farm in it and burned it down.

1 year and 8 months and we are still waiting for my family members fiance to get here and they meet all the legal requirements.

Some of it is institutional racism I think.

Is her husband British? I thought that was automatic residency hence fake weddings, it is a minefield and also I also think we are so reliant on computers now, if it says no, common sense will not be applied

[jaxie]

Is her husband British? I thought that was automatic residency hence fake weddings, it is a minefield and also I also think we are so reliant on computers now, if it says no, common sense will not be applied

Her husband is British and has an eight year old daughter who lives with them so her life is completely disrupted while this is going on. It was a news story a few days ago.

Nothing is automatic and it's not computers. The girl who is going to become a member of my family can't even get a visa to visit him for a holiday and some of the reasons for refusal are basically that they don't believe you. They have actually said that and you can't appeal. One time they said she didn't have leave from her job when part of the application was a letter from her job saying she had accrued extended leave for the holiday. Half the time it seems the whim of the idiot who looks at the paperwork and often refusals make absolutely no sense. They will refuse because a bank statement isn't dated within a month because it's taken them more than a month to look at it. And then of course once they have refused you, they will refuse you for being refused before. And you have to pay for this.

In fact they say Teresa May is responsible for the current mess so not a lot of confidence in her skills of diplomacy.